UFC 154

[Kris P Lettus]

Main Card

WW Title Unification
GSP vs Condit

Kampman vs Hendricks

Lawlor vs Carmont

Ring vs Philippou

Hominick vs Garza

Good fights on the prelims also..

Solid all around topped of with GSP's return..

[MoFo]

Kampmann is a fking BAWSE.

Idk man I think Condit got this.

[Kris P Lettus]

Condit vs GSP: I think they are pretty even on the feet.. I think that GSP will be able to take Carlos down and keep him there.. This fight all depends on if Condit can sink a sub from his back, which he has done before..

Kampman vs Hendrick: Hitman is a smart veteran with power in his hands.. Hendricks is a little pittbull with more power in his hands.. I think Hendrick's wrestling will be the difference..

Lawlor vs Carmont: Both guys are submissions experts and both have won fights on the feet.. I give the experience striking edge to Carmont, as he has been training with Firas Zahabi..

[Krimzon7]

Filthy Tom Lawlor FTW.


I think GSP is going to lose. I wouldn't bet on it and i love both fighters, but I got that gut feeling man...

[Kris P Lettus]

I like Lawlor's shenanegans but it seems when he does that he is distracted from the fight.. Carmont is all fight..

[Next Big Thing]

http://www.cagewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ufc-154-press-conference-gsp-condit.jpg

This picture is a joke.

What's the point of a guy being the "interim champion" if he doesn't defend the title in the interim? Condit didn't beat the champion and he didn't fight anyone after "winning" the interim title with shitty leg kicks. This fight shouldn't be marketed as champion vs. champion. UFC titles are nothing more than gimmicks these days.

GSP is going to beat Condit via boring decision because he's the better athlete, more well rounded and, unlike Nick Diaz, isn't ashamed to check leg kicks.

[Kris P Lettus]

GSP is calling Condit a champion due to the fact that GSP is supposed to defend his title once a year.. It's been more than a year so in his eyes, his title is vacated and Condit is the "real" champion..

He talks about it in that special UFC Ultimate Insider has been doing on his rehab..

[Next Big Thing]

GSP is calling Condit a champion due to the fact that GSP is supposed to defend his title once a year.. It's been more than a year so in his eyes, his title is vacated and Condit is the "real" champion..

He talks about it in that special UFC Ultimate Insider has been doing on his rehab..

That's retarded. In that same time span, the "champion" has zero title defenses. Sounds more like GSP being the company man and saying all the right stuff to give Condit credibility than actually believing some dimwitted logic like that.

Flair said it best, "To be the man, you have to beat the man."

[CSL]

UFC titles are nothing more than gimmicks these days.

bit of a stretch

[Crimson]

I'd say the interim champion just should never be brought back. Might confuse the casual fan..and really what's the point?

If anything after a year or year n a half if the champ can't defend just vacate the title.

[weather vane]

Who cares? Condit is the interim champ and GSP is the "real" champion.

We will find out who is the undisputed champion very soon.

[Crimson]

If Condit wins it'll spoil a GSP/Silva possibility. But it might spark a Bones/Silva matchup even more. That's a better fight anyway. If GSP wins there's the rumor that Silva will challenge him in the ocatogon right there.

[Kris P Lettus]

If they fight, it will be at 185 not 170..

[Krimzon7]

If Condit wins it'll spoil a GSP/Silva possibility. But it might spark a Bones/Silva matchup even more. That's a better fight anyway. If GSP wins there's the rumor that Silva will challenge him in the ocatogon right there.

that rumour was all but confirmed. Hell that's worth buying the PPV...seeing that fight get made that night would be amazing.

[weather vane]

GSP will win. Silva will challenge. It will be so hot.

[Next Big Thing]

If they fight, it will be at 185 not 170..

Actually, it's supposed to be at a catchweight because GSP doesn't want to fight permanently at 185 and Anderson has the potential to go lower than 185.

[Jura]

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[MoFo]

http://www.cagewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ufc-154-press-conference-gsp-condit.jpg

This picture is a joke.

What's the point of a guy being the "interim champion" if he doesn't defend the title in the interim? Condit didn't beat the champion and he didn't fight anyone after "winning" the interim title with shitty leg kicks. This fight shouldn't be marketed as champion vs. champion. UFC titles are nothing more than gimmicks these days.

GSP is going to beat Condit via boring decision because he's the better athlete, more well rounded and, unlike Nick Diaz, isn't ashamed to check leg kicks.



Barao is doing the same shit @ bantamweight, love the guy but fuck me its stupid and just clogs up the division.

[Kris P Lettus]

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/8604290/cowboys-stadium-eyed-host-potential-anderson-silva-georges-st-pierre-megafight

[Kris P Lettus]

Is no one pumped for this fight??

I think GSP will wrestlefuck a win but with ring rust and the fact that Condit is a killer makes this fight very interesting..

Pumped for the whole card actually.. Best card since 148..

[Krimzon7]

Is no one pumped for this fight??

I think GSP will wrestlefuck a win but with ring rust and the fact that Condit is a killer makes this fight very interesting..

Pumped for the whole card actually.. Best card since 148..

answered your own question. But I'm gonna watch just in case NBK pulls off the WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU SEE THAT moment of the century

[Next Big Thing]

I'm not pumped for this fight or this card to be honest. I like Philipou and Hendricks vs. Kampman should be a good one, but not one I'd drop $60 to see.

Felt like there was more talk of GSP/Silva at Cowboy Stadium then there was about GSP/Condit at times.

[Kris P Lettus]

Its cause fans are stupid.. GSP Silva will not happen.. If anything, Silva will fight Bones..

[Kris P Lettus]

Silva came out yesterday and said he doesn't want to fight till the end of 2013..

[Kris P Lettus]

Will still have Nick Diaz/GSP..

[Next Big Thing]

Silva came out yesterday and said he doesn't want to fight till the end of 2013..

I feel like he's pissed off about something and posturing for Dana to kiss his ass. Maybe he's upset about facing off against another roider in his last fight with Bonnar. Seems like everytime he moves up in weight, his opponent is on something.

OR

Sitting out until 13 is brilliant because they could have Anderson vacate the title and have Belfort & Bisping fight for the title in January. The winner of that can fight the winner of Weidman and Boetsch.

With Anderson on the sidelines, you could just have him fight a showcase fight of whoever was available between JBJ and GSP.

[Next Big Thing]

Either way Silva has the potential to screw with three different divisions. If GSP wins, Dana's hard on for GSP/Silva would rage and fuck over Nick Diaz and whoever wins between Kampman and Hendricks.

If JBJ beats Sonnen in April, he's the most logical and most likely to actually put up a strong challenge to Anderson Silva. This is a fight I'd actually want to see. HOWEVA, Hendo would probably get fucked.

Then there's the 185 division that would just be floating if Silva decides to only fight once next year.

[Kris P Lettus]

Silva has some movie deals in the works, wants time off, and I think contractually, he earned it with the quick turn around between Sonnen and Bonnar..

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Sitting out until 13 is brilliant because they could have Anderson vacate the title and have Belfort & Bisping fight for the title in January. The winner of that can fight the winner of Weidman and Boetsch.

Bisping is pushing for this.. I think it would be more fair to have it be both fights in a mini tourney, the winners face each other, then have Silva face the overall winner upon his return..

I don't have a problem with this other than Alan Belchar is getting fucked..

As for 170, you still have options either way.. If GSP wins, have him fight the winner of Kampman and Hendricks with Condit rematching with a returning Diaz.. If Condit wins have him face the winner of Hitman/Big Rig, and have GSP fight Diaz..

It would make sense during this time (if Jones beats Sonnen ofcoarse) to have Silva move up for a super fight with Jones at the end of 2013.. If this happens and Silva wins, you already have a legit earned champ in his place at 185 and he'd get better fights at 205..

Silva is a different kind of monster.. Every other HOF'er of past has lost their respected titles before they got to this point so the UFC could just use them as they see fit to make awesome fights.. They did it with Liddell, Couture, Penn, Hughes, etc.. Silva's problem is he just won't lose and doesn't look like there is enough BEEF at 185 to dethrone him, for lack of a better term..

As I said a few weeks ago, GSP/Silva is still interesting, but at this point that's not THE fight.. Maybe two years ago, but not now.. Now THE fight is Bones/Silva, and I thinks that alot closer to happening than any other superfight in the next year..

[Kris P Lettus]

Move Hendo back down to 185 and give him the winner of those fights..

[Next Big Thing]

I think Weidman is a fighter who presents problems for Silva. He's got strong wrestling (although it may not be on par with Chael's), finishing power and unlike Sonnen, he's got very good jiu jitsu. If he continues to win and doesn't get a shot at Silva, I think it would be a shame. Bisping deserves a shot too, but I don't see him pushing Silva.

I don't see Silva staying at 205 even if he beat Jones in a super fight. Plus, if Silva knocks off Jones (who has run through everyone up there), seeing Anderson fight those same guys wouldn't really have much appeal either.

As far as GSP/Silva goes, I don't want to see that fight at all. GSP wants a catchweight, Anderson goes up to 205 on short notice like it's nothing. Dude towered over Chael and he's a former LHW too. Silva's size will be too much for GSP. Plus, both guys are smart fighters who aren't going to engage unless there's an opening. That fight would end really early with a devastating Silva KO or go to a very boring decision that pisses a lot of people off.

Jones/Silva is more intriguing, but even if Jones does knock off Silva, it wouldn't be as big a feather in Jones' cap considering the age gap and size differences between Jones and Silva. If Silva was four years younger or goes on TRT maybe, but not now.

[Next Big Thing]

I wonder if Nick Diaz would leapfrog Hendricks and Kampman for a title shot if that fight was a dud and GSP won? They could probably do a high six figure buyrate with GSP/Diaz, I don't think they come close with GSP vs. the other two dudes.

[Kris P Lettus]

Weidman is a stud but only has one win against a legit contender (Munoz) IMO.. Sure he slaughter him :( but I think he needs more wins to be a true number 1.. A win over Boetsch will be big for him..

As for Silva, I think the natural progression is at 205.. It's a more natural weight for him and regardless of what Bones has done, think of Rashad, Shogun, Texiera, even Rampage.. And we can always hope for a Machida match..

[Big Vic]

I feel like he's pissed off about something and posturing for Dana to kiss his ass. Maybe he's upset about facing off against another roider in his last fight with Bonnar. Seems like everytime he moves up in weight, his opponent is on something.People are speculating he's doing this to get offered more money.

[Kris P Lettus]

HE IS GOING TO BE IN MOVIES

That's it.. His current contract is for like 1 title defense a year, as I said earlier, he "took one for the team" and fought Bonnar like 12 weeks after the Sonnen fight.. He now wants time off to act in movies he is contracted to be in.. Plus in MMA years dude is like 100.. Not only is he 37, but since 2006 he has fought atleast 2 times a year.. All of those fights being against TOP TIER competition (minus Travis Lutter LOL).. Out of his 16 UFC fights in the past 6 years, ALL have been either championship fights or in a higher weight class, except the Leban fight, who at the time Silva destroyed him, was on the verge of getting a title shot..

It may seem like I'm riding his jock but he is the greatest fighter of all time IMO.. And as I mentioned earlier, every other UFC "hall of fame" caliber fighter at this point in their respective careers had ALL lost their titles so UFC could use them sparingly in "super fights"..

Silva is a different monster and he has def earned a say in what he does and who he fights..

[Krimzon7]

isn't 2013 the last year of Jon Jones at LHW? Didnt he mention that he was gonna start packing on the pounds to fight the Bigguns? If Silva doesn't hop in the Octagon now against Bones, that fight won't happen.

GSP had better be worried about Condit.....:lol:

I couldn't even get that out before I realized the severity of the wrestlefuck coming Saturday

[Kris P Lettus]

Condit has good takedown defense but I think GSP is stronger than him..

[MoFo]

I wonder if Nick Diaz would leapfrog Hendricks and Kampman for a title shot if that fight was a dud and GSP won? They could probably do a high six figure buyrate with GSP/Diaz, I don't think they come close with GSP vs. the other two dudes.

:rant:

Kampmann never has bad fights guy, always makes it a tear-up. Love that guy (so :foc: )

Wouldn't mind if Kampmann had to fight Diaz after it for #1 contender though.

[Next Big Thing]

I couldn't even get that out before I realized the severity of the wrestlefuck coming Saturday

So much wrestlefuck that instead of vaseline, they may as well use Wet Original.

[Kris P Lettus]

Wouldn't mind if Kampmann had to fight Diaz after it for #1 contender though.

I think the winner of Kampman/Hendricks should get the title shot and Diaz should face the loser of GSP/Condit.. Either you get the much anticipated GSP/Diaz or a Diaz/Condit rematch..

TBH Hendricks should have gotten the shot after the Fitch KO, and then again after the Kos fight..

[Crimson]

Not a bad idea on the Diaz vs. loser. idk I have a feeling Condit might pull an upset here with all this GSP/Silva hype.

[MoFo]

I dread to think what'll happen if Condit did the same tactics against Diaz again :lol:

[Kris P Lettus]

GSP got pretty hot yesterday at the presser when asked about fighting Silva..

[weather vane]

I hope Johnny Hendricks knocks out Kampmann!

[Next Big Thing]

Condit has good takedown defense but I think GSP is stronger than him..

Statistically, Condit's takedown defense is a shitty 46% and GSP has the best takedown accuracy in UFC history at 77.3%. GSP is too smart of a fighter not to exploit this.

[Kris P Lettus]

He is awesome on the ground though.. Even though he doesn't have a sub win in the UFC, earlier in his career the majority of his wins were by submission..

[CSL]

first Anderson Silva sighting of the night

[CSL]

well Alessio Sakara just clubbed the shit out of the back of Patrick Cote's head

[CSL]

hottt first round in this Hominick/Garza fight

[CSL]

2nd time a fighter has used Kanye/Jay Z "Who Gon Stop Me" tonight #ThrillingTrivia

[CSL]

UFC's slow motion replays of guys getting kicked in the nards is one of the best things in any sport

[CSL]

and Dos Anjos responds by literally rubbing his balls all over Bocek's face

[Suicidal Icon]

I can't stand botech. Always bores me.

[Suicidal Icon]

Good end of the round.

[CSL]

earth to Martin Kampmann, Martin Kampmann come in

[CSL]

legit looks like Hendricks hardly even tries when he throws

[Suicidal Icon]

Impressive

[CSL]

this is a fucking fight

[CSL]

thought GSP was maybe off balance when he was dropped but he got full on kicked off of his feet

[CSL]

don't recall seeing that little picture in picture box showing somebody in the crowd before. I doubt that and having Silva on Primetime/mentioning a potential fight on there is a co-incidence

[CSL]

that shot of Condit looking at the camera with his face covered in blood is probably going to be around for a few years

[CSL]

great great fight, 49-46 GSP

[CSL]

Condit almost seemed scared throughout a lot of that, maybe "too big" of an occasion, still a baws tho

[Jura]

Fell asleep after the Cote fight but somehow managed to wake up and see the last 30 seconds of the GSP fight. I will need to watch it later but at least I know who won. And why does Goldberg pronounce RYU as "Roo"? It should be either Ree-yu or Rye-yu

[Arashi Kage]

Fell asleep after the Cote fight but somehow managed to wake up and see the last 30 seconds of the GSP fight. I will need to watch it later but at least I know who won. And why does Goldberg pronounce RYU as "Roo"? It should be either Ree-yu or Rye-yu

Ryu 流 = "Roo". That is the correct pronounciation. This is not Street Fighter. :p

[MoFo]

Best GSP fight in a long time, marked for Condit's head kick.

Still pissed off Kampmann got iced though.

[Savio]

Lawlor got robbed. i did fall a sleep during some spots of that fight however

[Next Big Thing]

Just watching GSP fight from a technical standpoint is a beautiful thing. Whether it was the way he threw his jabs during the Koscheck fight, his takedowns or how he countered Condit's reversals/submission attempts when they were on the ground. He's so well rounded.

[Wehttam]

lawlor did get robbed. bastards

[Next Big Thing]

Not sure why we needed to watch Anderson Silva watch GSP fight for most of the fight. Silva/GSP has pretty much been rammed down our throats, we get it. The picture in picture was overkill. I hope they don't do that ever again.

[Next Big Thing]

Condit almost seemed scared throughout a lot of that, maybe "too big" of an occasion, still a baws tho

I wonder if it was one of those situations where you realize your opponent is so much better than what you even expected and your best might not be good enough because of it.

That's gotta be scary as hell to realize something like that in boxing or MMA.

[Next Big Thing]

Machida's mustache makes him look like the world's most elusive rapist.

[YOUR Hero]

If anyone can direct me to where I can find a download of the Condit/GSP fight, that woud be nice

[Kris P Lettus]

mmashare.com has all the fights hosted on vimeo..

First and foremost, we shouldn't keep calling Hendricks a wrestler.. That dude's left hand is made of granite.. He is of the Chuck Liddell state of mind where you use your wrestling to keep it standing..

The Condit/GSP fight went exactly as I pictured it.. It wasn't boring like most of GSP's wrestlefucks, mainly cause Condit is so good off of his back.. That head kick in the 3rd was sicccc as was the Superman Punch in the 5th..

Great fight..

I felt bad for Allesio Sakara.. Yeah they were shots to the back of the head but Cote was already done.. Plus, Randy Couture has been very vocal about the reason behind that rule.. They don't want people getting hit at the base of the skull where the spinal cord attaches, which could cause paralysis.. Getting hit where Sakara was hitting Cote was no different than above the ear..

[YOUR Hero]

awesome

[Crimson]

Great fight..Condit is an animal he stayed busy and was effective with almost everything. I almost would prefer a Hendricks/GSP match next ..

[Kris P Lettus]

Hendricks will fight GSP next..

Condit will prolly rematch a returning Diaz..

[Crimson]

It's not official it'll be Hendricks/GSP..Dana wants that Silva match around May. Unless he waits a year for GSP.

[MoFo]

It's not official it'll be Hendricks/GSP..Dana wants that Silva match around May. Unless he waits a year for GSP.



Hendricks already said before the fight he was gonna sit out and wait for GSP if he won.

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[Crimson]

So that settles that :shifty:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I like the Hendrix actually lives up to his nickname "Big Rig". I think his striking is a tad one dimensional but there's no denying that he could become like Hendo, where even though his striking isn't polished, it is still a factor and still very very dangerous. I think George will have him well scouted though, and whilst maybe not outwrestling him, will be able to either establish his range and avoid the power or clinch up against the cage and strike when he releases him. That big knockout power of Big Rig will always be an X factor but I think he isn't multi faceted enough to really threaten a prepared gsp.

[Next Big Thing]

I wanted to say he reminded me of Hendo too, but thought that might be considered blasphemy.

That being said, I think a potential GSP/Silva superfight is really fucking stupid when GSP has one clear competitor and another in Diaz assuming he wins his return fight to the UFC and doesn't piss hot. Yeah, those fights aren't Silva/GSP in Cowboy stadium, but GSP sells out anywhere in Canada and I don't think he's sold less than 600,000 pay per views in the last five years anyways.

Plus, GSP/Diaz could do between 800,000 and a million buys and probably match or break the Rogers Center record GSP set headlining against Shields.

[Next Big Thing]

It's obvious GSP isn't comfortable fighting Silva because of the size difference. Love how Rogan and Goldberg kept talking about GSP's physique and how big he looked (hint, hint).

He's deflected the fight time and time again in interviews and even said if he did fight Silva he'd want six months to bulk up. The fact that the most recent discussion has the fight taking place at a catchweight is more evidence that GSP just doesn't like the size matchup.

It's not about what weight a guy walks around at, or what weight class he "could" fight at, it's about what's comfortable for him. If cutting to 170 is where GSP feels he does his best work, so be it. He shouldn't have to go up 15 pounds for a "challenge" like this is UFC Undisputed on Xbox 360 (fuck you and your PS3 csl). The physical difference is something to be aware of. It's not like boxing where each weight class is separated by five pounds so Floyd Mayweather or Pacquaio can "move up," still weigh less than their opponents and whoop ass.

GSP would be fighting a guy who has fought at a weight class 35 pounds heavier than welterweight and knocked dudes out. Can't blame him for not wanting that. Plus, although Anderson is the Greatest of All Time, it's kind of shitty that he doesn't want to fight JBJ, but has no problem taking on a smaller guy in GSP.

[Kris P Lettus]

I will say is once again, AT THIS POINT I'D RATHER SEE SILVA/BONES THAN SILVA/GSP..

[Crimson]

Yeah that would be a better fight. Poor GSP is being put into a corner of sorts with Silva and Dana pushing for the fight.

Wouldn't be mad if he declined, but money talks

[CSL]

:heart: my ps3

[Blitz]

Such a good fight.

[Kris P Lettus]

So the section of the post fight presser right when Dana White starts to talk about Anderson, goes black and comes back in like 5 mins later with Hendricks talking about his KO..

[Kris P Lettus]

,,,,,

[CSL]

they had technical difficulties, the stream kept shitting the bed so they just cut it until it was fixed

[Kris P Lettus]

They were having problems during the prelims too..