WWE in need

[Optimus Bone 69]

in these times of low ratings and attendances is it not time that one of the big four ppv's was held in the uk it would easily be one of there biggest houses in recent memory

[Droford]

You'll get the..over the limit ppv and like it

[Optimus Bone 69]

and it would get a 70000+ attendance easily

[Shisen Kopf]

They should hold it at Millwall's footy ground! Awight? Bollocks.

[Frank Drebin]

You don't get to have a major ppv until you take the Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Wake Up Call]

No, the reason, time difference.

[Mercenary]

No, the reason, time difference.

Didn't stop Summerslam.

[screech]

Didn't stop Summerslam.

That was pre-internet spoiler reports. People tune out of taped RAWs and Smackdowns, which are free. You really think they would shell out $60 to watch a show when they've already read [at least most of] the results?

[#1-norm-fan]

Didn't stop Summerslam.

You mean in 1992 when you could tape an event in advance and then air it in the states without the results being readily available to the world an hour after it's taped?

Go figure.

[#1-norm-fan]

I mean, what screech said. :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Yes, the answer to television ratings is to ship a PPV overseas.

Are attendances even an issue right now?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No, WrestleMania already made like 10 million dollars over the weekend in ticket sales with 50,000 already sold.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

SummerSlam 1992 got a 1.5 buyrate, but the year before that got 2.7. Pretty good reason never to do a PPV in England again and that was before the before mentioned problems above.

[screech]

But it would be a packed house!

[Robodiv]

Hold it at Celtic Park!

[loopydate]

But it would be a packed house!

And, hey, as long as everyone in attendance orders the PPV three times, that should offset the loss from the pre-tape.

[St. Jimmy]

America is the world, fuck everyone else. NOPE.

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[#1-norm-fan]

Jesus Christ, St. Jimmy.

... When did you decide to become a FUCKING GREAT poster!?!?!?

[loopydate]

St. Jimmy a great poster? YEP

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[Team Sheep]

WWE officials visited Wembley, Old Trafford and the Millennium Stadium last week. I think Summerslam over here would be huge. The only problem as we all know is the time zone issue. I'm sure they're currently crunching the numbers to figure out if they can offset potential losses from buyrates for a taped PPV airing in the US by selling out 75,000+ seats at extortionate prices, with increased merchandise revenue, Axxess tickets, UK sponsorships, etc. A PPV like Summerslam in Cardiff would be fucking amazing:

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In all honesty so long as the show is billed as live then the casual folk that would normally purchase a PPV would be non the wiser, and hardcore fans would probably tend to still watch it regardless. Obviously there would be a reduction in PPV sales but probably not as much as people think. And like I said WWE will make a killing on other things by doing it so there's no way they would make a loss. As an example, a tshirt that WWE would sell at a house show in the US for $25 sell for £25 here. And tickets are always a lot pricier over here due to the exchange rate. For a PPV they could charge what they like, people from all over Europe would flock to the UK for this.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

WWE officials visited Wembley, Old Trafford and the Millennium Stadium last week. I think Summerslam over here would be huge. The only problem as we all know is the time zone issue. I'm sure they're currently crunching the numbers to figure out if they can offset potential losses from buyrates for a taped PPV airing in the US by selling out 75,000+ seats at extortionate prices, with increased merchandise revenue, Axxess tickets, UK sponsorships, etc. A PPV like Summerslam in Cardiff would be fucking amazing:

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In all honesty so long as the show is billed as live then the casual folk that would normally purchase a PPV would be non the wiser, and hardcore fans would probably tend to still watch it regardless. Obviously there would be a reduction in PPV sales but probably not as much as people think. And like I said WWE will make a killing on other things by doing it so there's no way they would make a loss. As an example, a tshirt that WWE would sell at a house show in the US for $25 sell for £25 here. And tickets are always a lot pricier over here due to the exchange rate. For a PPV they could charge what they like, people from all over Europe would flock to the UK for this.

Way overpriced tickets? Isn't the British economy shit right now?

[Team Sheep]

Way overpriced tickets? Isn't the British economy shit right now?

That doesn't really matter for a one off event. The NFL sell 90,000 tickets every year and WWE is way more popular.

[whiteyford]

Hold it at Celtic Park!

Tynecastle would be cheaper.


Wasted on all but 6 posters...

[Shisen Kopf]

Have it at Hillsborough. That place has a reputation for putting on stellar events. Maybe the Yorkshire police and the Sun could be the sponsors.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

ROH should hold one of their big PPV's in my old primary school canteen.

[itsmeJD]

ROH should hold one of their big PPV's in my old primary school canteen.

A little optimistic don't ya think?

[Shisen Kopf]

ROH should hold one of their big PPV's in my old primary school canteen.

Ring of HonoUr

[Kane Knight]

In all honesty so long as the show is billed as live then the casual folk that would normally purchase a PPV would be non the wiser,

Unlikely.

[Team Sheep]

Unlikely.

They billed last Tuesday's Super Smackdown as live and I doubt your average American WWE fan batted an eye lid that it wasn't.

[#1-norm-fan]

I batted both eyelids when I found out.

[James Steele]

Would it be that hard to air live, but just air it earlier than normal and did it on a Saturday? If they aired it at 5pm EST, it'd be 10pm in London. I don't think you'd lose tickets because a show ends at 1am. Perhaps do a 1hr tape delay so the show starts in London at 9pm and begins airing in the U.S. at 6pm EST?

[Team Sheep]

I batted both eyelids when I found out.

Very few people on this site can be considered your average WWE fan.

[Optimus Bone 69]

Hold it at Celtic Park!

id rather they never had one, than have it at the piggery

[whiteyford]

Optimus Bone is a hun then lol

[Optimus Bone 69]

Of Course im from Larkhall

[Kane Knight]

They billed last Tuesday's Super Smackdown as live and I doubt your average American WWE fan batted an eye lid that it wasn't.

I doubt your average American WWE fan batted an eyelid at Smackdown.

[Team Sheep]

I doubt your average American WWE fan batted an eyelid at Smackdown.

Predictable response. But the fact that it was Smackdown was not the point. The point is, does your average casual family that orders the odd big PPV really pay any attention or care as to whether a show is live or on a tape delay? I would say no. In fact a huge PPV in a UK stadium would generate some more interest to want to buy if anything as it would have that Wrestlemania feel to it.

[Kane Knight]

Predictable response. But the fact that it was Smackdown was not the point.

It's kind of the point, since a lack of interest in the product would influence the attention between live and pre-recorded. Of course, that Smackdown was down in the ratings for some reason. Am I saying it was specifically because it wasn't live? Well...No. But it's quite likely the mainstream is far more aware than you'd like to believe.

Traditionally, taped versions of Raw do lower than live versions, even if broadcast as "live." The one major example of a PPV given here suffered a drop in buyrate pre-internet spoilers. None of this is new information, really.

In fact a huge PPV in a UK stadium would generate some more interest to want to buy if anything as it would have that Wrestlemania feel to it.

If by, "in fact," you mean "not in fact at all, but rather impotent speculation." Yeah, certainly.

If you mean "I really really want it to be true despite no evidence, because it would be convenient for it to be true," definitely.

[Team Sheep]

If by, "in fact," you mean "not in fact at all, but rather impotent speculation." Yeah, certainly.

If you mean "I really really want it to be true despite no evidence, because it would be convenient for it to be true," definitely.

Let's not pretend that a portion of Wrestlemania buy rates aren't purely due to the occasion rather than the card that's on offer.

[Kane Knight]

Let's not pretend that a portion of Wrestlemania buy rates aren't purely due to the occasion rather than the card that's on offer.

Nobody's pretending that, but since that portion is pretty much a given, that's completely moot.

Are you done grasping at straws?

[Team Sheep]

There's no evidence to prove that either of us are right or wrong, so no I'm not grasping at straws.

[Kane Knight]

There's no evidence to prove that either of us are right or wrong, so no I'm not grasping at straws.

I listed evidence. You may not like the evidence, but that trend certainly demonstrates a probability.

Meanwhile, your argument is disingenuous and pointless. So yes, you are grasping at straws.

You have no actual reason to believe it would be worth their while. There's plenty of reason to believe it wouldn't be, however.

If what you mean is that there is no way for either of us to see into the future and get an exact set of figures pertaining to buyrate, attendance and revenue, then yes. That's kind of stupid, though, as it renders almost any discussion about future events moot. It screams of a child telling his parents that they can't predict the future, and just because sticking a finger in the light socket hurt before doesn't mean it will this time.

Otherwise, you have failed to make any significant case for WWE benefiting from a big PPV overseas. and now, you are grasping at straws.

[Team Sheep]

I listed evidence. You may not like the evidence, but that trend certainly demonstrates a probability.

Meanwhile, your argument is disingenuous and pointless. So yes, you are grasping at straws.

You have no actual reason to believe it would be worth their while. There's plenty of reason to believe it wouldn't be, however.

If what you mean is that there is no way for either of us to see into the future and get an exact set of figures pertaining to buyrate, attendance and revenue, then yes. That's kind of stupid, though, as it renders almost any discussion about future events moot. It screams of a child telling his parents that they can't predict the future, and just because sticking a finger in the light socket hurt before doesn't mean it will this time.

Otherwise, you have failed to make any significant case for WWE benefiting from a big PPV overseas. and now, you are grasping at straws.

Fucking hell. WWE visited stadiums. THAT'S a fact. Why would they bother doing that if they weren't seriously considering it? So lets just wait and see what happens shall we. Only they know whether it would be worth doing or not.

[whiteyford]

Don't even see why it has to be a big PPV, just repackage Over The Limit or one of the other filler events and hype it up.

[Fignuts]

Why does anyone discuss anything with Kane Knight at this point?

[ron the dial]

because he has such a sexy little weiner

[drave]

His logic makes sense :)