Fangel wants to custom build a PC.

[El Fangel]

First off, I know my way around the software aspects of a computer and how to run, maintain and fix one.

However my severely limited knowledge of hardware caused me to fry my mobo, cpu, ram and one of my HD's due to me putting a stick of ram in backwards.

No I didn't force it, it fit fine, and like I said me messing around inside a computer would be akin to a monkey screwing a football.

I am not sure of the budget I would have but I would at least want a rig that could run Skyrim at max settings.

If someone could help me compile a list of the needed/suggested parts, I would be indebted and love you forever.

[Kane Knight]

You don't have a budget in mind and have royally fucked up a computer already.

Here's the best advice anyone can give you: stop. Stop right now. Save yourself ime and money. And frustration. Oh my God, if you break DVDs and toss phones around, putting you anywhere near the sensitive insides of a PC is a recipe for disaster.

[Kane Knight]

I thought all RAM was unidirectional anyway. At least, I've never had to handle any RAM that wasn't.

[El Fangel]

You don't have a budget in mind and have royally fucked up a computer already.

Here's the best advice anyone can give you: stop. Stop right now. Save yourself ime and money. And frustration. Oh my God, if you break DVDs and toss phones around, putting you anywhere near the sensitive insides of a PC is a recipe for disaster.

I took you off ignore, thinking that perhaps this time around you might actually post something that would contribute to the discussion instead of being a prick.

I thought all RAM was unidirectional anyway. At least, I've never had to handle any RAM that wasn't.

Guess you are stupid since I clearly said it fit in fine when I placed it in the slot, so I quite obviously didn't notice until I heard the popping sound.

Anyway, back to ignore you go. Merry Christmas.

[Kane Knight]

I took you off ignore, thinking that perhaps this time around you might actually post something that would contribute to the discussion instead of being a prick.

You realise you can view a post without taking someone off ignore, right?

Guess you are stupid since I clearly said it fit in fine when I placed it in the slot, so I quite obviously didn't notice until I heard the popping sound.

Or I don't believe your story. I've installed a lot of RAM and not seen anything in the modern era that doesn't have notched slots and chips. Looking online, I'm seeing a lot of the same. You can still connect the RAM to the board, but it won't "fit" or look fine if you're paying any attention at all.

So yeah, I'm the stupid one. The dude who's never placed RAM in backwards or fried a mobo is the idiot here.

[Kane Knight]

Honestly, I sort of expect that Fangerl saw that the little nitch was obstructing him, so he filed it down or something.

[DaveWadding]

For once, Kane Knight is right. You are a huge fucking spastic. I know fuck all about computer hardware, and I can at least install a DVD drive, a hard disk, and RAM right.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231609

Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192

Mechanical storage drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792

Total price as it stands = $1,074.93

Here's a basic layout, you can figure out the other parts (keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.) yourself. The case might need to be bigger to fit the video card, but you're gonna have to do your own research there.

[El Fangel]

Oh wow. I was looking at what I could afford on it and between 1000-1200 was what I was aiming for.

Very much appreciated.

[El Fangel]

Also perhaps I am over estimating the difficulty of putting it together, but please understand that I don't want to waste $1,100 if I screw up.

If possible what would be the shortlist of how to put it together?

[Vietnamese Crippler]

I forgot to throw in a power supply - should aim for something 600W or higher.

It's not that difficult. The hardest part for me every time is figuring out where the plugs for the case's power and reset buttons go. Other than that, it's pretty easy if you take your time and not rush. All the plugs that go anywhere are pretty obvious and just make sure to read any manuals if you get stuck.

[El Fangel]

I appreciate this.

I have an old computer that I may dissect to learn the in and outs. just worried ill plug something in wrong again.

Oh and to clarify, it wasn't my current computer that this happened to, it was a few years ago.

[El Fangel]

Any cheaper suggestions for the video card and SSD?

Am I honestly going to need a 3GB video card?

The SSD I want but with a 2TB Mech HD, I don't see me needing much more space then the OS plus maybe 10-20GB.

Or is there another reason I should get it?

[Vietnamese Crippler]

It just makes the computer faster to use overall. I thought I could get away with using a Western Digital Black 500GB in the desktop I'm using now, but after using a laptop with an SSD for 4 months and getting used to how fast it boots and loads programs I feel like I should upgrade. But if you don't care too much then the one 2TB should be good enough or you could even go smaller if you don't plan to store that much stuff.

You can use a smaller SSD, but I prefer to use a 120GB SSD so I can at least store SOME stuff on it, like programs, music, some video, whatever. You can use something like a 60GB SSD, but I think space would run out really fast after installing Windows 7 or 8 (both of which should take up like 20GB).

As for the video card, I just assumed Skyrim took a lot of power to run so I chose one of the stronger card I could find. Just read this if you want something else - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I have 4.25TB of internal mechanical storage and 64gb of SSD. If you get less than that then you are less of a man.

[El Fangel]

I have absolutely no need of that much storage. None at all.

[VSG]

Then go with a caching mSATA or even regular SATA SSD with your mechanical HDD. But seriously, I just got 512 gigs of SATA SSD to go with a mechanical HDD that is boosted by an mSATA SSD and I could never go back to just a mechanical HDD ever again.

If the 840 Pro is too expensive, get the 830 series or even the Crucial M4. 120 gigs is what I recommend for OS and most of your programs (not Steam of course).

[Requiem]

So, you'll let the rest of TPWW build you a PC, but when I start listing off parts you will want based on price and compatibility, you bitch and complain that I'm not including you enough in the process because I'm just 'choosing parts'.

:foc:

[El Fangel]

So, you'll let the rest of TPWW build you a PC, but when I start listing off parts you will want based on price and compatibility, you bitch and complain that I'm not including you enough in the process because I'm just 'choosing parts'.

:foc:

Anytime before, my wife had never agreed to let me blow a grand on something she will probably never use.

Surprisingly, she is fine with me spending that much so this time around I actually have a budget to work with.

And I have been after you for days now to discuss it but you aren't ever on AIM or Skype so....


:foc:

[Vietnamese Crippler]

So, you'll let VC build you a PC, but when I start listing off parts you will want based on price and compatibility, you bitch and complain that I'm not including you enough in the process because I'm just 'choosing parts'.

:foc:

:foc:

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Just bought a new case, mobo, processor, and RAM for $500 :cool:

Excited to finally move out of Core 2 Quad.

[Kane Knight]

Seriously, if you're that scared of wasting a thousand bucks, don't dick around. Especially if you can't install RAM properly.

Again, best advice you'll ever get on the subject.

I mean, it impacts me none if you gamble on assembling your PC, but there's a few dozen little ways you can screw that shit up, and you're expressing worry.

VC and Reqtum (who no doubt could soup up your graphing calculator to play Skyrim on max settings) can tell you everything you want, but in the end, they're not the ones who are assembling the thing. You are the weak link in the chain, and that will probably chap your ass if you ever bother to read this, but it's true.

I could tell my grandmother everything there is to know about PC assembly, but it still wouldn't help her if she couldn't handle installation solo.

[Bad Company]

Case $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112376

Power Supply $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182200

CPU $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116782

Motherboard $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130653

Video Card $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

SSD $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791

Mechanical Drive $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136891

Blu Ray Drive $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136250

Ram $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231609

Monitor $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

Keyboard and Mouse $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126314

Wireless Card $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704133

Windows 8 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550


That's everything you need.
It's not the best of the best, but it's a good set of componants with good technology. It's actually pretty much what I went for when I built my latest PC on a budget when I got to the USA. You can always skimp on the monitor, wireless card, keyboard and mouse etc. And you could try pirate your OS, which is a waste of time. Pretty sure you can get windows 8 for $60 if you try.

Also, Hansey, good call on the storage - I'm happy with my 12tb RAID 5 NAS :D

[El Fangel]

That looks beautiful. Little more then my budget but ill have to see how much I have left in my vacation pay account, might be enough to cover the difference.

EDIT:

Don't need monitor, w-card or keyboard/mouse like you said so within budget. Now to get the money together and get the sumbitch built.

[drave]

Also, part 1 of a three part video series on how to assemble everything properly. Quite foolproof if you follow them. The other two are at the top of the page for ya. I see you have had issue in the past, but everything takes practice. Hope this helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw

[El Fangel]

Sometimes I wish you could rep a post more then once. <3

[drave]

No worries man! I tend to encourage learning rather than discourage. None of us learned our trade or even basic motor skills our first tries :)

Best piece of advice I can offer is BE GENTLE and PATIENT! If something doesn't fit right with the slightest pressure, it is most likely misaligned. Stop, look at the parts again (rewatch the vid if you have them up while doing it) and retry.

Remember, it only takes between 5-8 pounds of force to break a human elbow joint :)

[El Fangel]

This is what I would like to get.

<table class="box-table-a featured_partlist"><tbody><tr><td class="heading">CPU</td> <td>Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i73770k)</td> <td class="price"> $323.98 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">CPU Cooler</td> <td>Zalman CNPS9500 AT Ball Bearing (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps9500at)</td> <td class="price"> $31.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Motherboard</td> <td>ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4)</td> <td class="price"> $127.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Memory</td> <td>Corsair Vengeance Performance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz32gx3m4a1866c9)</td> <td class="price"> $179.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Storage</td> <td>Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st3000dm001)</td> <td class="price"> $129.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">
</td> <td>Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120GB 2.5" SSD (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-internal-hard-drive-ssdsc2cw120a3k5)</td> <td class="price"> $119.95 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Video Card</td> <td>Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-111960040g)</td> <td class="price"> $376.48 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Sound Card</td> <td>Asus Xonar DG (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-sound-card-xonardg)</td> <td class="price"> $26.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Case</td> <td>Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc922mkkn1gp)</td> <td class="price"> $99.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Power Supply</td> <td>Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu750hx)</td> <td class="price"> $129.99 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Optical Drive</td> <td>Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-bc12b1stblkbas)</td> <td class="price"> $55.98 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="heading">Operating System</td> <td>Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc00019)</td> <td class="price"> $169.69</td></tr></tbody></table>


Total: $1773.01


Little over price range though.

[drave]

Nice. Might be a bit over price range, but that tech will last you YEARS with only minor upgrades required (RAM, Vid card). Even still, it will be years before you would even need to upgrade a single piece.

[El Fangel]

That is what I need to convince my wife of.

[VSG]

The max amount of usable RAM with Win 7 home premium is 16 GB. You are better off getting Win 8 instead. Isn't Windows 8 really cheap right now for a full version?

Edit: Just checked on Newegg and it is $100 USD for the basic version and $140 for Win 8 Pro. You can save $70 by going directly to Win 8.

[El Fangel]

Don't want 8.

[The Rogerer]

I've never cast aspersions on anyone I haven't dealt with directly, but you seem very annoying. Also very talented to be able to put RAM in backwards.

[drave]

Go back to the discussion forums, about guns and dead people n stuff.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

You can save $100 or so by buying a Core i5-3570. The i7 is nice, but way overpowered for you since the K series, I'm pretty sure, is out of your league (it's designed for massive overclocking, which I'm assuming you don't know how to do based on this topic).

Mobo and video card and come down as well if you choose to use BadCompany's solid choices.

You can also save another $70 or so buying the OEM version of Windows 7 64-bit (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986)

[Vietnamese Crippler]

The max amount of usable RAM with Win 7 home premium is 16 GB. You are better off getting Win 8 instead. Isn't Windows 8 really cheap right now for a full version?

Edit: Just checked on Newegg and it is $100 USD for the basic version and $140 for Win 8 Pro. You can save $70 by going directly to Win 8.

Max amount of RAM is 192GB if he gets the Professional version *HINT*

[El Fangel]

You can save $100 or so by buying a Core i5-3570. The i7 is nice, but way overpowered for you since the K series, I'm pretty sure, is out of your league (it's designed for massive overclocking, which I'm assuming you don't know how to do based on this topic).

Mobo and video card and come down as well if you choose to use BadCompany's solid choices.

You can also save another $70 or so buying the OEM version of Windows 7 64-bit (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986)

Noted. Also, strangely enough I do know how. I am not familiar with hardware is all.

Max amount of RAM is 192GB if he gets the Professional version *HINT*

Explain, please.

[VSG]

Win 7 professional, instead just get 16 gigs of ram. Why the fuck do you need 32 gigs?

[El Fangel]

Ill get 16gb, calm your loins.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

That can shave another $100 off your total.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

For the RAM limit thing: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778%28v=vs.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7

[Bad Company]

look at it this way, if I was to build my PC right now I'd go with 16gb.
My previous PCs have had 12gb, 6gb, and now I have 8gb. I'll go to 16 or 32 when I need it.
I've never used anything close to 8gb on my desktop. So RAM is a little overrated unless you are running virtual PCs, CAD, server stuff, etc.
Also, I wouldnt bother with windows 7. Get windows 8 and run a custom start menu on it, if it pisses you off that much.

The I7 is a nice processor, but pretty much pointless in the real world, I'd go I5 and upgrade later if you really need to.

[El Fangel]

How much would be a good deal for i5?

[El Fangel]

look at it this way, if I was to build my PC right now I'd go with 16gb.
My previous PCs have had 12gb, 6gb, and now I have 8gb. I'll go to 16 or 32 when I need it.
I've never used anything close to 8gb on my desktop. So RAM is a little overrated unless you are running virtual PCs, CAD, server stuff, etc.
Also, I wouldnt bother with windows 7. Get windows 8 and run a custom start menu on it, if it pisses you off that much.

The I7 is a nice processor, but pretty much pointless in the real world, I'd go I5 and upgrade later if you really need to.

I was actually thinking of lowering to 8gb because the games Im looking at need nowhere near 16gb.

I have no idea what's bad about 8, just Requiem mentioned to get 7 because I would like it more. keeping in mind Im still using XP because I simply like it the best.

[VSG]

lol then you def dont want to get Win 8.

[El Fangel]

What wouldn't I like? curious here.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

I just bought a Core i5-3570 for $215, over $100 less than the Core i7 you're looking at and you get basically the same performance.

[El Fangel]

So minus the ram and processer, already down near budget :D