WM XXIX HOF inductees list from the wrestling observer

[slik]

credit: wrestlinginc/f4wrestling

Since the HOF is taking place in MSG they want it to have a NY theme and honor the famous arena.

*The Rock (debuted at Survivor Series 96 @ MSG)
*Mick Foley (watched Snuka fly off the cage @ MSG)
*Nasty Boys (billed as from NYC)
*Harlem Heat (billed as from Harlem)

HHH desperately wants Bruno Sammartino (MSG legend) and WWE desperately wants Owen Hart (beat Bret Hart @ WMX) but neither is a definitive lock.

[Nicky Fives]

Nasty Boys? really? with all the great names not in already..... British Bulldog, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "Ravishing" Rick Rude, Paul Heyman, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Bam Bam Bigelow, Sting, Vader, Bob Backlund, Big Boss Man, Demolition, The Freebirds, Jim Cornette, Slick, need I go on?

[owenbrown]

Austin is in the HOF already

[owenbrown]

2009

[Xero]

Of all the things to note about Foley, it's the Snuka thing? Not the fact that Cactus Jack debuted in WWE at the Garden? Or Foley vs Hunter at Rumble 2000?

[owenbrown]

WWE surely once they make it official (if true) will include that stuff in their video of Foley

[Nicky Fives]

Austin is in the HOF already

forgot about that, my bad.....

[Xero]

My preferred lineup (won't happen):

Headliner: Vince
Alternate: Vince is the only one inducted and it's basically a 2-3 hour roast.
Alternates to Vince: Foley or Triple H

Second Tier: Savage/Liz, Heyman, Bruno

Team: Rock and Sock Connection

Celebrity: Cyndi Lauper and/or Mr. T

Filler: Jim Johnston

[Emperor Smeat]

:wtf: Nasty Boys being included.

Thought Harlem Heat would have been a bit of a stretch instead of just taking Booker T but didn't know they won 10 WCW tag titles. Would put them on the level of E&C and Dudley Boys in the WWF for comparisons and worthy of being inducted.

If they really wanted an homage to MSG moments, maybe Razor Ramon instead of the Nasty Boys because of the memorable ladder match from Mania X.

[Rock Bottom]

The WWE "Hall of Fame" has just become a political kiss-ass fest. It's a place to get jerked off on paper. It has a duality in the sense that it seems legit for a lot of guys, but for others, it seems purely political. Some wrestlers have been inducted who are relatives to big stars in the WWE, preceding a rather incomplete list of wrestling legends and greats in induction.

Now you're inducting the Nasty Boys because you want to stack more "legacy" on a relationship between the company and the arena. They're from New York. Other than that, they've held tag team titles in just about every major promotion, but they never stayed around long anywhere.

To be blunt, the Nasty Boys didn't do shit for wrestling. They were spokes on the wheel.

The Hall of Fame should be reserved for people who have spearheaded the WWE's mission to become the one-stop-shop for wrestling and "sports entertainment." Perhaps even deserving Hall of Fame recognition are those who had their "great moments," those things that made you totally mark out.

Before recently, I had never even heard of Mil Mascaras. That excludes me from being allowed to say whether or not he's worthy of the Hall of Fame, but isn't "Fame" part of the whole thing?

I just don't think the Nasty Boys belong in the company of Hulk Hogan. I piss on the WWE Hall of Fame with my dick.

[Xero]

Hogan thinks the Nasty Boys belong in the company of Hogan.

[Rock Bottom]

Hulk Hogan is standing right behind me telling me that's bullshit.

[Xero]

I dunno, he brought them on his tour. And to TNA...

[Lock Jaw]

I love when people get "pissed" at the WWE HoF.

Anyways, if Booker T ever goes in to the HoF, it will definitely be by himself, and not as part of Harlem Heat. He probably won't go in for a long time though. Until they are desperate for a "headline" or "Number Two" name for the induction.

[Droford]

Brooklyn brawler > nasty boys

[Bad News Gertner]

Nasty Boys were amazing. Soooo happy they are going in over the garbage Bulldogs

[Skippord]

Nasty Boys? really? with all the great names not in already..... British Bulldog, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "Ravishing" Rick Rude, Paul Heyman, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Bam Bam Bigelow, Sting, Vader, Bob Backlund, Big Boss Man, Demolition, The Freebirds, Jim Cornette, Slick, need I go on?
Slick?

[slik]

Is Jimmy Hart in the HOF yet?

[James Steele]

This reminds me of how the HoF in 2011 was supposed to be "WCW themed" since they were in Atlanta, Georgia.

[James Steele]

Basically, I'm calling bullshit on this.

I would love for them to do a big roast/send-up for Vince, but I don't know if he'd ever do it.

[owenbrown]

That would have to be a completely different event apart from the HOF

[Fignuts]

Before recently, I had never even heard of Mil Mascaras. That excludes me from being allowed to say whether or not he's worthy of the Hall of Fame, but isn't "Fame" part of the whole thing?



If this is true, then you have no business commenting on what a wrestling hall of fame should or shouldn't be.

[whiteyford]

Can't believe any wrestling fan hasn't heard of Mil Mascaras, even if they haven't seen any of stuff.

[whiteyford]

Did you know who Inoki was?

[SNLfunnyguy]

Foley should be the headline act of a HOF line up... putting Rock in there would massively shadow him and would be a waster. They are running out of top names to go in, they have to milk this shizzle. If Rock is at Wrestlemania wrestling, it's not needed.

Anyway, put in Sign Guy Dudley.

[SNLfunnyguy]

Nasty Boys? really? with all the great names not in already..... British Bulldog, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "Ravishing" Rick Rude, Paul Heyman, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Bam Bam Bigelow, Sting, Vader, Bob Backlund, Big Boss Man, Demolition, The Freebirds, Jim Cornette, Slick, need I go on?

If you do go on, can you make a point.

[James Steele]

I say they need to induct Triple H.

[James Steele]

...then when the fans start chanting "ONE MORE MATCH!" he says "Good idea! Punk, I'm adding myself to the title match tomorrow night. IT'S TIME TO PLAY THE GAME!"

I'd mark the fuck out.

[Bad News Gertner]

It'd be even better if that over-rated owners daughter banging fuck had a heart attack and died onstage.

[James Steele]

I would like to see Mick Foley inducted.

[SNLfunnyguy]

It'd be even better if that over-rated owners daughter banging fuck had a heart attack and died onstage.

Too many heart attack angles.

[Rock Bottom]

I love when people get "pissed" at the WWE HoF.

Anyways, if Booker T ever goes in to the HoF, it will definitely be by himself, and not as part of Harlem Heat. He probably won't go in for a long time though. Until they are desperate for a "headline" or "Number Two" name for the induction.

You don't love it at all. It has nothing to do with you, shut up.

I am also pissing on it.

[Triple Naitch]

Of all the things to note about Foley, it's the Snuka thing? Not the fact that Cactus Jack debuted in WWE at the Garden? Or Foley vs Hunter at Rumble 2000?

Or that he's from Long Island.

[Tazz Dan]

Do you think there's some guy somewhere laughing his ass off over the IWC's reaction to a fake list he made up?

[weather vane]

Demolition

[Corporate CockSnogger]

New Age Outlaws will go in.

[Corndad]

Mr T needs to go in this year. Period.

[whiteyford]

It's Mr T that's refusing to go in.

[addy2hotty]

The Nasty Boys are just plain nasty.

[SNLfunnyguy]

It's Mr T that's refusing to go in.

Annoyed Pete Rose went in apparantly. T deserves it though.

[VSG]

Oh god having just Vince inducted followed by a massive roast would be spectacular.

[James Steele]

Especially when they bring in some surprise guests to roast him such as:

http://media.al.com/scenesource/photo/martha-hart-wwe-owen-hartjpg-7216ef5eceaf8539_large.jpg
Martha Hart

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/q4lw05a-wYQ/0.jpg
Ultimate Warrior

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m44ao1ehax1qdzvtro1_500.gif
The Iron Shiek

http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/090305-wrestling-death-hmed130p.grid-6x2.jpg
Greg Gagne

http://0.tqn.com/d/prowrestling/1/0/r/e/-/-/bruno-sammartino.jpg
Bruno Sammartino

http://www.autographwarehouse.com/images/products/detail/ShaneDouglas8x10.jpg
and Shane Douglas who will yell obscenities while working as a waiter during ceremony.

[whiteyford]

And he will waiter it marvellously because he's the F'N Franchise!

[SNLfunnyguy]

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/n/nailz/05.jpg

"You've always ranted to roast me, big boy"

[Rock Bottom]

If this is true, then you have no business commenting on what a wrestling hall of fame should or shouldn't be.

Tell me who Mil Mascaras was and then tell me why I would have to hear that name to comment on the WWE Hall of Fame plz

[James Steele]

Mil Mascaras is arguably the greatest star in the history of Mexico behind only El Santo, and he also competed around the world in AJPW, he was the first masked wrestler to compete in Madison Square Garden, wrestled in Puerto Rico, WCW, etc. He isn't some random internet darling chosen from a "Best of Mexico" trade tape.

[Tazz Dan]

Plus he was in the Royal Rumble in 97 I believe?

[Tazz Dan]

Could have been 96

[SNLfunnyguy]

97, with a bunch of other no namers.

[WinterDecay]

If Harlem Heat goes in ... does that mean that Tony "Big T" Norris gets a ring as well?

[Curd]

Plus he was in the Royal Rumble in 97 I believe?

Tazz Dan and SNL Funny Guy are correct. Mil eliminated himself by diving off the top rope to the floor, thereby contributing with Ahmed Johnson and Faarooq to a record of three self-eliminations in one Rumble match!

[Rock Bottom]

Ok, so has Mil Mascaras wrestled for the WWE, other than a self-elimination in a Rumble match?

[Rock Bottom]

And do you think Mil would be in the HOF if ADR weren't working for the company?

[Rock Bottom]

And do you think the Nasty Boys should stand shoulder to shoulder with Steve Austin in the hall of fame?

[Rock Bottom]

What about Ric Flair? Shawn Michaels?

Who the fuck is Mil Mascaras? Really. No one's even heard of this guy. No one even knew Mil was a name.

[Rock Bottom]

Which of the following wrestlers does not belong?

a. Andre the Giant
b. Hulk Hogan
C. MIL MASCARAS
d. None of the above

[Curd]

Which of the following wrestlers does not belong?

a. Andre the Giant
b. Hulk Hogan
C. MIL MASCARAS
d. None of the above

You are correct about Mil Mascaras never wrestling for WWE outside that one Rumble stint. I personally believe he belongs in the AAA and/or CMLL Hall of Fame and not in the WWE HOF, but with the induction of Abdullah the Butcher, it appears WWE will continue to induct those ill-known within the WWE fan base but having a cult following outside.

I expect WWE would induct Hiro Matsuda if its Asian American audience was as large as its Spanish American audience. Heck, someday they might induct Steve Corino, Generico, or Kevin Steen if they amass enough following outside WWE. I don't agree with the practice, but WWE sees the HOF as a marketing gimmick and will try to win crossover fans like they have tried with celebrity inductions.

[James Steele]

And do you think the Nasty Boys should stand shoulder to shoulder with Steve Austin in the hall of fame?

If that is the standard for getting in the Hall of Fame, there would only be 5 guys in the fucking thing.

[whiteyford]

Did gorgeous George wrestle for the WWE? Or the WWWF or whatever it was known as back then? Kinda hope not because I want to hear Rock Bottom explain why he shouldn't be in the HOF too. It's not an exclusively WWE HOF anymore, hasn't been for a while.

[Rock Bottom]

If that is the standard for getting in the Hall of Fame, there would only be 5 guys in the fucking thing.

I'd prefer a much smaller Hall of Fame to a political circle jerk.

[Rock Bottom]

Did gorgeous George wrestle for the WWE? Or the WWWF or whatever it was known as back then? Kinda hope not because I want to hear Rock Bottom explain why he shouldn't be in the HOF too. It's not an exclusively WWE HOF anymore, hasn't been for a while.

You hope Goregous George wasn't associated with the WWE so that you could hear me explain why he shouldn't be in the hall of fame, and yet, I never said he didn't deserve it. I suppose you could throw another handful of wild names in an attempt to explain who the fuck Mil Mascaras is and what he did for the business.

You're comparing another huge name to "Mil Mascaras," who was a big star in a completely different country.

Gorgeous George wasn't inducted to jerk Alberto Del Rio off, or to show up in Mexico and tour like they give a shit about Mexico.

Anyone have a back story on the Nasty Boys and their hall of fame worthy jobs to the Steiner Bros?

[whiteyford]

Mil Mascaras was also a huge draw in LA and surrounding regions and would have went in eventually regardless of Del Rios involvement with the company. Your issue seems to be that you've no real idea who he is or what he's accomplished so clearly its to give Del Rio a pat on the back.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The Four Horsemen were never in WWE. Ric Flair's best time was spent elsewhere, too.

[Lock Jaw]

It was clearly done for Del Rio and other Mexicans. He would not have gone in for his "LA and surrounding regions" contributions.

That said, I have zero issues with that because I recognize that the WWE Hall of Fame is not a "legitimate" entity, but that is just for the purposes of business and entertainment.

[whiteyford]

Its a HOF based on who they want to acknowledge as being 'worthy', I'm not saying he wasn't put in as a marketing ploy for the hispaic market in the same way Inoki went in to gain the press attention in Japan or Khali is there to bolster the Indian market, but like Inoki he's deserving of a place in any HOF for his overall legacy.

[crusnik]

Actually Mil Mascaras was in the wwwf around the mid to late seventies,possibly 80- 81.He never stayed in one place too long.Also I believe that Bruno Sammartino should be inducted here,it's the perfect time for him to be in.WWE might make some kind of story line with Punk n ruining Bruno's HOF induction cause of the whole best in the world and best champ of all time thing.Also might be an angle for Bruno to come back and train someone to beat Punk(that's a longshot there, but you never know)

[Curd]

Its a HOF based on who they want to acknowledge as being 'worthy', I'm not saying he wasn't put in as a marketing ploy for the hispaic market in the same way Inoki went in to gain the press attention in Japan or Khali is there to bolster the Indian market, but like Inoki he's deserving of a place in any HOF for his overall legacy.

Aha, I knew there had to be other foreign examples! Great job, Whitey.

[Curd]

Actually Mil Mascaras was in the wwwf around the mid to late seventies,possibly 80- 81.He never stayed in one place too long.Also I believe that Bruno Sammartino should be inducted here,it's the perfect time for him to be in.WWE might make some kind of story line with Punk n ruining Bruno's HOF induction cause of the whole best in the world and best champ of all time thing.Also might be an angle for Bruno to come back and train someone to beat Punk(that's a longshot there, but you never know)

Well, there we go. It's good to know Mil did more in WWE than a self-elimination which made him look totally goofy / unable to understand the Rumble rules from the Spanish announce team.

[James Steele]

I never understood why people view the WWE Hall of Fame as a joke. Since they started doing annual inductions at WrestleMania 20, I would argue there is not a more visible and credible entity to honor pro wrestling's past. You can nit-pick and bitch about Pete Rose or Drew Carey, but the majority of the guys in the Hall of Fame are more than deserving of having a night in which their career and legacy is honored and given a spotlight some of them have never gotten.

[Rock Bottom]

I never understood why people view the WWE Hall of Fame as a joke. Since they started doing annual inductions at WrestleMania 20, I would argue there is not a more visible and credible entity to honor pro wrestling's past. You can nit-pick and bitch about Pete Rose or Drew Carey, but the majority of the guys in the Hall of Fame are more than deserving of having a night in which their career and legacy is honored and given a spotlight some of them have never gotten.

On one condition:

You are related to a WWE superstar and they're all going to go to Mexico (which is CONVENIENTLY where you are from).

[James Steele]

I'm not saying Del Rio being in WWE had nothing to do with him going in when he did, but to act like he is just some fucking Mexican jobber they inducted as a favor to Del Rio and a cheap appeal to the Mexican demo is fucking ridiculous.

[weather vane]

MM is more than deserving to be in a wrestling hall of fame. Shut up.

[Lock Jaw]

Should have put in El Dandy instead. Then everybody would be happy.

[slik]

http://www.autographwarehouse.com/images/products/detail/ShaneDouglas8x10.jpg

Never realized how much Shane Douglas looks like Guy Fieri.

[DaveBrawl]

Why are we arguing over a Hall of Fame? Every Hall of Fame sucks with some of their selections/omissions.

[Bad News Gertner]

At least the other Hall of Fame are you know, ACTUAL sports.

[Skippord]

I'm just glad no one's said anything mean about Koko B.Ware in here

[whiteyford]

On one condition:

You are related to a WWE superstar and they're all going to go to Mexico (which is CONVENIENTLY where you are from).

Who is Inoki related to again?

[whiteyford]

Why are we arguing over a Hall of Fame? Every Hall of Fame sucks with some of their selections/omissions.

You mean the lack of Franchise?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Jeff Jarrett, New Age Outlaws, Test, Kronik and Buff Bagwell all need to be in the Hall of Fame.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

What a stable that'd be.

[whiteyford]

And Shane Douglas of course.

[DaveBrawl]

At least the other Hall of Fame are you know, ACTUAL sports.
I was including the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as well which seems to make more random selections than the WWE one.

[DaveBrawl]

You mean the lack of Franchise?
Shane Douglas should be in every hall of fame.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Never realized how much Shane Douglas looks like Guy Fieri.

Was actually thinking that myself, LOL...:lol::rofl:

[Rock Bottom]

I'm not saying Del Rio being in WWE had nothing to do with him going in when he did, but to act like he is just some fucking Mexican jobber they inducted as a favor to Del Rio and a cheap appeal to the Mexican demo is fucking ridiculous.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. How is it ridiculous? Everything is true there, except him being a jobber.

[James Steele]

Because if he wasn't literally a huge fucking wrestling star, he wouldn't have been inducted. Quit being so fucking obtuse.

[Rock Bottom]

He is not a huge star.

[Rock Bottom]

At all. No one but you gives a shit about Mil Mascaras.

None of the fans gave a shit either.

[Rock Bottom]

Also, I thought comparing them to Austin and whatnot wasn't fair, now we are, I don't get it. Fuck you.

[Rock Bottom]

Not even Juan gives a fuck about Mil Mascaras.

[Rock Bottom]

Right Juan?

Shit, Mil Mascaras doesn't even give a fuck. He doesn't deserve to be in there with Hogan, Austin, Flair, Michaels, Nobs, and Sags.

[slik]

The New York Post is reporting Mic Foley for this year's HOF:


http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/mick_foley_to_be_inducted_into_wwe_M30U31alOUWaxmsjYsFVVO?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

[Flash Funk]

I would be so excited for Mick. My all-time favorite person in the wrestling industry.

[VSG]

Couldn't be happier for someone else, :heart: the guy.

[#1-norm-fan]

WWE.com has confirmed it. Awesome.

[Tazz Dan]

I wonder if Mrs. Foley will be on hand to see her baby boy inducted into the WWE HOF. Right here, in New York City!!!!

[VSG]

http://i.imgur.com/Im1U2.gif

[Keith]

Yes. Mick Foley.

I wonder if JR inducts him.

[loopydate]

JR or Terry Funk would probably be my choice.

[James Steele]

Triple H should induct Mick Foley.

[James Steele]

I am glad they are going to induct Foley before he has another tantrum and quits WWE again to go work in some shitty company like TNA.

[James Steele]

Sting and Foley's steel cage match for the TNA World Title may be the shittiest legitimate effort at a PPV main event I have ever seen.

[James Steele]

That being said, everybody loves Mick Foley and he is truly a unique and special entity in the history of pro wrestling.

[Keith]

I think Kevin Nash may go in, so Triple H may induct him. Or HBK.

I'd love it if Scott Hall did, though.

[Schlomey]

King Kong Bundy just confirmed his HOF nomination on Twitter. He was awful but had a storied career and a great look about him. When I was 4 or 5 I saw Hogan vs Bundy in a steel cage at Wrestlemania. He scared me then.

[Schlomey]

With Jake Roberts recent sobriety and the fact he is somewhat of an Internet darling since joining the DDP Yoga House, I can see this year or next year ( if he's still sober which I am almost positive he will be) finally being his year.......

[slik]

I didn't realize Bundy wasn't already in!

Great addition to the HOF imo.

[whiteyford]

I always liked Bundy.

[Schlomey]

I loved Bundy's look and character but his horrible match with Taker at WM 11 (?) spoiled most of him for me even as a kid.

I would say he is even to this day in my top 10 most intriguing wrestlers ever.

[whiteyford]

He just looked really diffeent to all the roided up guys, he was fucking dire for the most part but not Khali dire.

[Schlomey]

I love his Pug-like roll on the back of his neck. Almost looks like a Shar Pei.

[mike adamle]

With Jake Roberts recent sobriety and the fact he is somewhat of an Internet darling since joining the DDP Yoga House, I can see this year or next year ( if he's still sober which I am almost positive he will be) finally being his year.......

Jerry Lawler will induct him and bring him a bottle of Jack Daniels. Jake will then relapse on stage while Lawler has a heart attack at the same time.

[Schlomey]

Talk about a sticky situation!

[Innovator]

FIVE

[Schlomey]

Well it appears that Bundy is not wwe HOF bound but rather a different wrestling HOF. Swerve.

[Emperor Smeat]

DX and the Kliq rumored to be this year's headliners for the 2013 Class.

According to Wrestlezone, WWE is expected to announce the group as the 2013 WWE Hall of Fame headliners. Members would be two-time HOF inductee Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Kevin Nash, Sean Waltman, and the New Age Outlaws.

This follows the Kliq/DX/NWO re-uniting at last week's NXT TV tapings in Florida. It would also follow a Kliq reunion two years ago when Shawn Michaels was inducted into the Hall of Fame.


http://www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_67919.shtml

[SNLfunnyguy]

Bundy is only 55. he was a fucking puppy at Wrestlemania 2.

[loopydate]

A 28-year-old puppy...

[Keith]

DX and the Kliq rumored to be this year's headliners for the 2013 Class.



http://www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_67919.shtml


I'd be down for that only if Scott Hall was present. You can't induct "The Kliq" and not have him.

He needs this type of recognition more than anybody. It'd probably be good for his health.

[Droford]

LOL @ Sean Waltman being in a hall of fame, even if it is riding the coat tails of a bunch of other people.

I also guess HBK and HHH will be members of the Two Time Hall of Fame along with Flair.