On a serious note... Rumble idea...

[OldSchoolFan]

While doing my retarded Rumble prediction I got to thinking one part of it could actually be interesting and wanted you guy’s opinions. What if titles were on the line in the Rumble? Not if you win the Rumble you are necessarily the champ but if you eliminate a current champion you win their title.
Like say Barrett is eliminated by The Miz, the Miz would be the IC Champ. This only counts for eliminating the current champ and does not continue meaning in the previous scenario Miz leaves with the belt no matter what. In a situation where multiple people work together to eliminate someone they face off either at Raw or Elimination Chamber for the belt. This includes the tag titles as well which could lead to some interesting combinations.
I think this could add some extra excitement to the middle portion of the match as eliminations would actually mean a little more. Maybe even add in that there is no "Rematch Clause" and you must "earn" your way back to number one contender status when you lose your title this way. It pretty much guarantees a new batch of champions leaving the event.

[Keith]

When I started reading, I didn't think I would end up saying this, and I'm probably going to hate myself for saying it, but: That's not a bad idea.

[whiteyford]

I just want them to put it back up to 40, if they're going to go the same route as last year with random 'legends' and surprise entrants at least they're not taking away from regular guys.

[Hanso Amore]

I think the best part of the rumble is the legends. So I love going to 40 as well. Lengthen the match and make some fun storylines as alliances form. Loved Punk's Nexus owning the rumble one year, and same for Punk when he was talking on the mike between eliminations.

This title thing is overly complicated and un-needed. Sounds more like t he shitty scramble matches than anything that should be allowed in the Rumble Match.

[Hanso Amore]

Not trying to be a dick, but not sure why the One Match that draws on its own regardless of who is in it, that has been their top Gimmick match for 20+ years, needs to be changed.

[Hanso Amore]

I could get needing to add some sizzle to a Survivor Series match as they have declined in popularity.

But dont touch the rumble.

[Hanso Amore]

Also, Way to put over angles for titles. They struggle to make people care about the US and IC titles as is, now we are just hotshotting random champions with no angle or build? AWESOME.

As you can tell , I think your idea is not very good.

[Keith]

Yeah, they certainly should have 40 guys in so no legend takes a spot away from "one of the guys".

It would be awesome if one year the WWE title was vacant going into the Rumble, and the winner became Champion. It'd mix things up, or "up the ante", so to speak.

[Hanso Amore]

Ideas like this are the result of over stimulated Americans. People are so used to playing with their phone and ipads while watching TV and fast forwarding on DVR that they cant even watch a rumble match without a million things going on.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, they certainly should have 40 guys in so no legend takes a spot away from "one of the guys".

It would be awesome if one year the WWE title was vacant going into the Rumble, and the winner became Champion. It'd mix things up, or "up the ante", so to speak.

No one cares to see Curt Hawkins show up to the Rumble.

people love to see Hacksaw.

Fuck "The guys" losing "their spot".

[Keith]

Well, not participating in the Rumble means they not only lose their "spot", they also lose a paycheck.

[Hanso Amore]

And?

I dont watch WWE so that Ezekiel Jackson can get a paycheck. I watch to be entertained.

I like 40 entrants as it allows for more surprises. Could care less if the jobbers get paid or get air time. They are all entitled. Earn their spot.

[whiteyford]

It depends how the guys are used, the spots Kofi/JoMo do are great but 90% of them get the initial pops when their music hits and thats it until they get eliminated, pity they didn't make use of the 'freebie' last year and let a midcarder win to give it back the 'unpredictability'.

[Frank Drebin]

They went back to 30 last year and it was almost all jobbers, so the argument of 40 just adding low level talent is baseless.

Just compare last years to the one two years ago.

[Curd]

As others have said, the number should depend on how many Legends are in town, or else it becomes like the 1997 Royal Rumble where at least six guys not affiliated with company signed on for one night only, and that was to reach a mere 30 men.

As for the "eliminate the champ and get his title" stipulation, that is innovative but could devalue the belts (more than they've been devalued). Maybe have an "eliminate the champ and get a title match" stipulation.

[whiteyford]

The legends always get a good pop and if you can get someone full time over by eliminating them, maybe even a tv feud for a couple of weeks after, it can't hurt. It's like Hanso said though, the match itself is the draw so there's no need to alter it, it just lacks the unpredicability factor.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Sounds very TNA.

[Frank Drebin]

I just like the idea that you have more of an opportunity to test how the crowd reacts to a guy when they are hot.

Maybe Hawkins gets a pop, maybe not. Whatevs. Hes eliminated by Ryback in 2 mins regardless.

[whiteyford]

Sounds very TNA.

Until Billy Gunn wins a title then you declare it the greatest night in the history of our sport...I'm onto you...

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That or a Jeff Jarrett return to take over WWE

[whiteyford]

With Buff of course.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Kronik tag title run.

[whiteyford]

That might be difficult...

[Keith]

That or a Jeff Jarrett return to take over WWE

Entrant #30. Countdown. We hear the buzzer. No one comes out. The crowd is wondering what's going on. All of a sudden, the lights go off. And out comes Jeff Jarrett wearing his cowboy get-up with orange lights flickering, on a horse.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Someone like Roman Reigns can fill in for dead-Kronik.

[whiteyford]

Dunno why, but the "on a horse" made me lol and totally sold me on it.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

He could waltz in on a weasel for all I care, as long as he calls somebody Slapnuts.

[whiteyford]

Someone like Roman Reigns can fill in for dead-Kronik.

That's not how it works, you can't just repackage someone as an established gimmick. What next, put someone in Undertakers get up when he retires and act like it's the same person?

And lol at 'dead kronik'

[loopydate]

No one cares to see Curt Hawkins show up to the Rumble.

people love to see Hacksaw.

Fuck "The guys" losing "their spot".

No, but Kane could have used a spot last year (the first Rumble he's ever missed, iirc)

[Keith]

Dunno why, but the "on a horse" made me lol and totally sold me on it.

I can't embed this, but it shows what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJ-q4dqums

[Shisen Kopf]

Guys, I have the best idea, have it not take place in a ring but on a trampoline. With the 30th entrant being Fluffy /thread my idea wins!

[loopydate]

And instead of a Rumble, it's a 30-man ERAG match?

[Shisen Kopf]

Yes!

[Shisen Kopf]

I have a better idea than that even. WWE creates a rassler called Rumble Man and the only event he rassles in is.........wait for it...........the Royal Rumble. This dude has a mask so pretty much anyone can be Rumble Man. Every year Rumble Man does really well in the rumble but always gets tossed with 5 guys left. Then in 5 years Rumble Man wins and declines to main event WM b/c he only wrestles at the Royal Rumble. Again, I should be a booker. Hire me Vince.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think I have a good compromise for the title thing. The guy who eliminates a champion automatically becomes the number one contender for that title. They get a title shot for the belt the next night or Raw or whenever it's convenient. That also goes for the tag team championships. The two people who eliminate both Daniel Bryan and Kane team up to fight for the tag team titles. Would be a good way to make a new tag team or if an established tag team eliminates both of them it gives them an added push for the titles.

[Curd]

I think I have a good compromise for the title thing. The guy who eliminates a champion automatically becomes the number one contender for that title. They get a title shot for the belt the next night or Raw or whenever it's convenient. That also goes for the tag team championships. The two people who eliminate both Daniel Bryan and Kane team up to fight for the tag team titles. Would be a good way to make a new tag team or if an established tag team eliminates both of them it gives them an added push for the titles.

That makes at least two of us. :y:

[Keith]

Let's just go with the original. All 30 men start-off on the outside of the ring, and they throw each other into the ring. The last man standing ringside wins.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You want people thrown into the ring? Wouldn't it be easier if they just went in themselves?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

dont touch the rumble.



I like 40 entrants

Umm What? How can you like 40 entrants when that was them changing the rumble?

[Hanso Amore]

Umm What? How can you like 40 entrants when that was them changing the rumble?

Expanding the number doesnt alter the match in any way other than expanding the length. These guys are talking about adding gimmicks etc.

The Rumble at its core is a Staggered Entrance Battle Royale which allows a long flowing story to be told in ways no other match can. You can change the spoils (Title Shot, Winning Title, Etc) and the match doesnt change. You can change how many take part as that is not a core theme. But you can go adding stipulations and titles without changing it.

Much like Ladder match is a Ladder match, whether its a title or contract hanging. But adding more stipulations changes it to something else, TLC, House of horrors, Whatever.

[steveweiser]

I love the idea of the titles being on the line in the actual rumble match but what would be the undercard for the Royal Rumble PPV? unless they were to have the undercard between guys competing for an actual spot in the rumble. While were at it, also i wouldnt mind seeing the TNA concept match where they had the briefcases hanging with a contract in each for each title and also the pink slip in one of them, that could be good.

[Keith]

You want people thrown into the ring? Wouldn't it be easier if they just went in themselves?

Well, if they want to be eliminated, yeah.

[Hanso Amore]

I love the idea of the titles being on the line in the actual rumble match but what would be the undercard for the Royal Rumble PPV? unless they were to have the undercard between guys competing for an actual spot in the rumble. While were at it, also i wouldnt mind seeing the TNA concept match where they had the briefcases hanging with a contract in each for each title and also the pink slip in one of them, that could be good.

..........

[Savio]

I did NOT like 40 entrants

[Curd]

Let's just go with the original. All 30 men start-off on the outside of the ring, and they throw each other into the ring. The last man standing ringside wins.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Aha, the TNA-inspired Reverse Battle Royal.