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Bad News Gertner
03-25-2013, 08:31 AM
Yeah and get rid of that faggot gay Canadian GM too!

Shisen Kopf
03-25-2013, 08:57 AM
Yzerman is a god!

weather vane
03-26-2013, 12:07 PM
Bruins.

Reimer kept the Leafs in that game big time. I hate how everybody is complaining about him in that game.

Blitz
03-26-2013, 12:11 PM
Yeah especially Toronto fans. We got 3 of 4 points from two games with a team who usually thrashes us and still people bitch.

Bad News Gertner
03-27-2013, 01:03 AM
Nice bounce back win against Florida. Scrivezina came up huge.

Emperor Smeat
03-27-2013, 10:35 PM
:-\ Bs lose to the Canadiens in the SO after blowing a 2 goal lead earlier.


Bruins-Flames trade expected to be made official soon with the Bs getting Jarome Iginla in return for a 1st Round pick, prospect Alex Khokhlachev, and Matt Bartkowski.

Some teasing about Malcolm Subban's name being a possibility in a trade but the Bs consider him as part of their "untouchables."

weather vane
03-27-2013, 10:54 PM
Give me Iggy

weather vane
03-28-2013, 02:27 AM
Fucking gutted.

LoDownM
03-28-2013, 02:46 AM
WOW, where the fuck did that come from, everyone seemed so certain it was gonna be the Bruins. AND for almost nothing.

road doggy dogg
03-28-2013, 08:17 AM
ROFL wow. I can't even believe this.
crossrine

Nicky Fives
03-28-2013, 08:21 AM
fucking Pittsburgh.... the only team I hate more than Boston gets one of my favourite players..... hope they get upset the first round by a beatn up Ottawa....

road doggy dogg
03-28-2013, 09:04 AM
The more I think about it, the more I want to see Iginla play on a line with Matt Cooke and like Tyler Kennedy, and have the line be nicknamed "Iggy and the Stooges". Would be awesome :'(
crossrine

Corndad
03-28-2013, 09:22 AM
#InSheroWeTrust Jordan Staal is openly weeping somewhere looking at these moves lol

Corndad
03-28-2013, 09:36 AM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579430_10151578562097812_1794914991_n.jpg

Emperor Smeat
03-28-2013, 09:08 PM
Bs going after 2 players as their Plan B now that Iggy went to Penguins and earlier lost out on Morrow who also picked the Pens.

Chiarelli has a Plan B and said he will improve the team before Wednesday's deadline. He would like to add a forward and a defenseman to the mix. Players of interest include San Jose Sharks forward Ryane Clowe, Tampa Bay Lightning forward Martin St. Louis, Edmonton Oilers defenseman Ryan Whitney and New York Islanders defenseman Lubomir Visnovsky.

Bad News Gertner
03-28-2013, 10:24 PM
You're all playing for second to the powerhouse Leafs! Woooo!

Emperor Smeat
03-30-2013, 08:11 PM
Sabres GM hints he's ready to make several major shakeups after putting everyone on the tradeable list.

Sabres general manager Darcy Regier is willing to trade anyone by the April 3 trade deadline.

"You're looking to get a group of top players that are going to play together not on a one-year basis but going forward on a multiyear basis," Regier said. "That's our focus, and it could involve any player, and I think the players are aware of that ... We have to be open to anything." John Vogl of the Buffalo News translates this to mean that "at least" one of the following will be gone: Ryan Miller, Jason Pominville or Thomas Vanek.

YOUR Hero
03-30-2013, 08:30 PM
They just want to unload Myers

Blitz
03-31-2013, 03:18 AM
Nazem Kadri

Bad News Gertner
03-31-2013, 08:07 PM
Frazer McLaren and Colton Orr

Bad News Gertner
04-01-2013, 03:20 AM
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/0359be701fc5f21a81a86bbfff03cd85/tumblr_mhvrn2epme1r41emlo1_500.gif

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Bad News Gertner
04-01-2013, 03:35 AM
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4008/larry.gif

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http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1799573/turco-disses-pierre-mcguire-o.gif

Adder
04-01-2013, 05:40 PM
So with Sid having a broken jaw, do you think there goes the Pens chance at the Cup?

SammyG
04-02-2013, 03:18 AM
NOT IF THEY FACE THE KINGS

DAMN iNATOR
04-02-2013, 12:47 PM
NOT IF THEY FACE THE KINGS

Or the Blackhawks or the Red Wings. Hell, I’m not sure anybody stands a chance going up against the likes of Chicago.

weather vane
04-02-2013, 01:22 PM
Jagr bombs

Blitz
04-03-2013, 02:30 PM
So with Sid having a broken jaw, do you think there goes the Pens chance at the Cup?
lol oh yeah they're definitely done. Not a single chance in hell. I'll be surprised if they even make the playoffs at this point.

Also, you know what would be really nice, is a trade deadline day where anything actually happens.

weather vane
04-03-2013, 06:00 PM
bergy with a conky...

FUCK

Emperor Smeat
04-03-2013, 06:05 PM
:-\ He's been having a lot of bad luck getting those.

YOUR Hero
04-04-2013, 10:06 AM
Look out for Columbus. Nice move dumping Mason, and picking up Gabby could be a huge boom

YOUR Hero
04-04-2013, 10:08 AM
bergy with a conky...

FUCK
from what I saw, he was pretty lightly bumped. This doesn't bode well for his future.

Bad News Gertner
04-04-2013, 10:54 AM
:-\ He's been having a lot of bad luck getting those.

Not really bad luck. The concussion he suffered at the hands of Randy Jones was a horrible one and you don't fully heal from ones like that. Ah well, advantage Leafs.

Bad News Gertner
04-07-2013, 09:01 AM
Reimer does it again

weather vane
04-07-2013, 06:08 PM
Bruins are garbage rn. So fucking bad.

Fuck I hate the Habs. Wow.

OssMan
04-08-2013, 01:05 AM
So Ovechkin doesn't suck anymore. NHL can suck a fuck though

Bad News Gertner
04-09-2013, 01:19 AM
LEAFS! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Blitz
04-09-2013, 01:30 AM
I can't believe I might actually see Toronto Maple Leaf playoff games again.

Bad News Gertner
04-09-2013, 06:51 AM
For all his naysayers, Reimer wins and that's all I care about.

weather vane
04-10-2013, 02:46 PM
Leafs do not want the Bruins first round...

Emperor Smeat
04-10-2013, 10:17 PM
Ugly 5-4 win by the Bs over the Devils. Came close to blowing a 4-0 lead and still having problems staying motivated with leads.

Currently on top of the Northeast which means Canadiens and Maple Leafs are the current 4-vs-5 playoff matchup.

Bad News Gertner
04-10-2013, 11:12 PM
Leafs do not want the Bruins first round...

I just want in the first round

Skippord
04-11-2013, 03:39 AM
AVS!

Bad News Gertner
04-11-2013, 04:18 AM
lol

DaveBrawl
04-11-2013, 09:22 AM
Come on #1 pick.

weather vane
04-11-2013, 11:41 AM
I just want in the first round

Tough to blow now...

Nicky Fives
04-11-2013, 07:52 PM
Habs clinch playoff spot with a win tonight!

Bad News Gertner
04-12-2013, 03:36 AM
I am so jacked for the rest of this season, I don't care how they do if they make the playoffs.

Blitz
04-12-2013, 03:56 AM
Tough to blow now...
This is the Leafs we're talking about. I'm not even considering celebrating until it's clinched.

Bad News Gertner
04-12-2013, 04:02 AM
Surprised Randy Carlyle is getting zero love for the Adams.

SammyG
04-12-2013, 03:26 PM
Quick is having a weird year. Not nearly as good as he was last year. Who knows, maybe when the playoffs roll around he'll go back to being the old Quick.

Adder
04-12-2013, 07:13 PM
Bruins having a lot of concussion issues.

Bad News Gertner
04-13-2013, 08:49 PM
Lol Leafs embarassing the Habs so far

Kris P Lettus
04-15-2013, 04:56 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>THIS JUST IN: Bruins players have been told there is no game at 7 ET tonight. They are leaving the TD Garden (via @<a href="https://twitter.com/espnjoeymac">espnjoeymac</a>).</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/323902233446068224">April 15, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Droford
04-16-2013, 10:07 PM
Ducks vs. Kings at Dodger Stadium, Jan. 25 • Devils vs. Rangers at Yankee Stadium, Jan. 26 • Islanders vs. Rangers at Yankee Stadium, Jan 29 • Penguins at Blackhawks, Soldier Field, March 1 • Senators at Canucks, BC Place, March 2


I want to see a hockey game played at dodger stadium..maybe first ever NHL roller hockey game

Arashi Kage
04-17-2013, 12:15 AM
I can't believe the turnaround that Ovechkin and the Caps have pulled off. I hate the caps and wanted the Jets to win the division. :mad: :(

Arashi Kage
04-17-2013, 08:24 PM
So 6 outdoor games next year??? :roll:


The series will begin with the Winter Classic, which was recently confirmed for Ann Arbor, Mich., on Jan. 1, 2014, and will also include with games in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and Vancouver.

The Jan. 1 game will include the Detroit Red Wings and Toronto Maple Leafs.

In addition, California will host its first outdoor regular-season game, with the Anaheim Ducks and the Los Angeles Kings to meet at Dodger Stadium Jan. 25.

That game will be the first of three outdoor games planned for the week leading up to Super Bowl XLVIII slated for New Jersey on Feb. 2.

The plan involves the New York Rangers playing two games at Yankee Stadium -- vs. the New Jersey Devils Jan. 26 and New York Islanders Jan. 29.

The remaining games would take place on March 1 at Chicago's Soldier Field, pitting the Blackhawks against the Pittsburgh Penguins.

On March 2, the Canadian-based Heritage Classic will return with the Vancouver Canucks hosting the Ottawa Senators at B.C. Place.


Overkill and marketing gimmick.

Emperor Smeat
04-17-2013, 09:42 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2493215/subbanwhiff_medium.gif

LoDownM
04-17-2013, 09:47 PM
I love the Winter Classic and all, but they should just leave it only two a year, the Winter Classic, then the Heritage Classic. It takes away the "specialness' of it by having that many outdoor games in a single season.

Skippord
04-17-2013, 10:25 PM
I'm on board, in fact I would enjoy an outdoor Stanley Cup finals

weather vane
04-17-2013, 10:52 PM
Gotta make that lockout money back!!!

Bad News Gertner
04-17-2013, 11:06 PM
Leafs play the Habs in the final regular season game and if the Habs vs Leafs first round match up is set I'm dressing McLaren, Orr and Fraser and the rest of the thugs and gooning the absolute shit out of the Habs. Beat them up. It's not like the Habs are tough enough to fight back.

RP
04-20-2013, 01:12 AM
I think the Hart Trophy is coming down to Toews and Tavares.

Bad News Gertner
04-20-2013, 01:18 AM
Ovie is in the discussion too. The Caps were dead and buried.

Nicky Fives
04-20-2013, 06:47 PM
Leafs play the Habs in the final regular season game and if the Habs vs Leafs first round match up is set I'm dressing McLaren, Orr and Fraser and the rest of the thugs and gooning the absolute shit out of the Habs. Beat them up. It's not like the Habs are tough enough to fight back.

Prust, Moen, Armstrong & White may disagree.....

Bad News Gertner
04-20-2013, 10:13 PM
Haha Moen and White are pussies who never fight anymore. Armstrong is always hurt. Poor Prust having the carry the load for this bag of vag's.

Bad News Gertner
04-20-2013, 10:14 PM
THEY DID IT! PLAYOFFS!!!!!

owenbrown
04-20-2013, 10:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>For the first time ever, a Toronto Maple Leafs playoff game will be broadcast in HD.</p>&mdash; JP Kirby (@the506) <a href="https://twitter.com/the506/status/325786823337062400">April 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Shisen Kopf
04-20-2013, 10:50 PM
THEY DID IT! PLAYOFFS!!!!!

Fuck that. The leaves are in but the Wings might not make it? Awful. If the Wings are oot, then I'm rooting for an American team b/c we invented hockey. Tied at intermission with Canucks, ugh

Bad News Gertner
04-20-2013, 10:54 PM
Wings aren't going to and that piece of shit Yzerman's team isn't either. Woooooooooooooooooo everything about Detroit is #476!

LoDownM
04-20-2013, 11:37 PM
Crazy season, Leafs are in playoffs, the Islanders might be in, and the Red Wings might not be.

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:32 AM
watching Red Wings/Canucks rn, first game of the season I've seen I think :S

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:38 AM
ooh going to see my first ever live shootout. Needs more Sergei Federov, Steve Yzerman and Igor Larianov

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:39 AM
Vyachaslav Kozlov and Vladimir Konstantinov

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:40 AM
Chris Osgood and Mike Vernon

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:40 AM
MATHIEU DANDENAULT

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:41 AM
MAR-TAN Lapointe

CSL
04-21-2013, 12:41 AM
Joey Kocurrrrrrrrrr

Skippord
04-21-2013, 01:35 AM
those guys are all dickheads

CSL
04-21-2013, 02:14 AM
hey remember when the Avs were good

CSL
04-21-2013, 02:15 AM
(I have no idea if they are good are not rn :o)

CSL
04-21-2013, 02:16 AM
Milan Hejduk looks like somebody you'd find in a bush watching your little sister

Skippord
04-21-2013, 02:19 AM
the Avs are sooooooooooooooooooooooo bad

Skippord
04-21-2013, 02:19 AM
well unless you meant good at making me constantly want to kill myself

LoDownM
04-21-2013, 02:20 AM
I think Wings fans give Osgood/Veron to much credit, they weren't really amazing goalies, they just had amazing teams in front of them. Neither of them where that consistent when they played elsewhere. Vernon did have a few good seasons in the late 80s with the Flames, but that's about it.

CSL
04-21-2013, 02:23 AM
do they give them credit? Because even I knew that they were just "aiiiight"

CSL
04-21-2013, 02:24 AM
well unless you meant good at making me constantly want to kill myself

it's ok, just watch "after 22 years...RAYMOND BOURQUE!"

it still makes me "mother of 5 kids who's baby daddy just got home from war" happy everytime I see it and I couldn't care less about the Colorado professional ice hockey sports franchise :'(

LoDownM
04-21-2013, 02:24 AM
do they give them credit? Because even I knew that they were just "aiiiight"


Some do, they were decent goalies at best.

CSL
04-21-2013, 02:32 AM
they're no Manny Legace that's fur shur

Skippord
04-21-2013, 02:46 AM
it's ok, just watch "after 22 years...RAYMOND BOURQUE!"

it still makes me "mother of 5 kids who's baby daddy just got home from war" happy everytime I see it and I couldn't care less about the Colorado professional ice hockey sports franchise :'(
they show it all the time on the network that broadcasts Avs games and I'm always really happy for a second before I realize how much the current Avs bum me out

Blitz
04-21-2013, 04:36 AM
The Maple Leafs of Toronto

Blitz
04-21-2013, 04:39 AM
New avy for the playoff run <333

Evil Vito
04-21-2013, 09:47 AM
<font color=goldenrod>No matter what happens, the Islanders have actually been fun to watch this season.</font>

YOUR Hero
04-21-2013, 11:23 AM
No matter what happens, the Islanders have actually been fun to watch this season.
Tavares

Bad News Gertner
04-21-2013, 12:29 PM
the Avs are sooooooooooooooooooooooo bad

lol the Avs have three goals from their defencemen all season.

I hated the Erik Johnson trade from the beginning. What a disaster. No goals.

Bad News Gertner
04-21-2013, 12:33 PM
I think Wings fans give Osgood/Veron to much credit, they weren't really amazing goalies, they just had amazing teams in front of them. Neither of them where that consistent when they played elsewhere. Vernon did have a few good seasons in the late 80s with the Flames, but that's about it.

A few good seasons? Vernon was one of the top 3-4 best goaltenders from 1986 to 1991 including a Stanley Cup. His stats went down south once the Flames started dealing everybody and anybody. He also took a Sharks team who finished 2nd worst in the league the previous season to the playoffs and that team was garbage.

Osgood always put his team in a position to win. That's all you can ask.

Emperor Smeat
04-21-2013, 03:14 PM
Bs managed to snap their 4 game loosing streak and take over the division lead from the Habs.

Post-game celebration to the first responders from the Marathon bombing was nice.

Skippord
04-21-2013, 03:23 PM
lol the Avs have three goals from their defencemen all season.

I hated the Erik Johnson trade from the beginning. What a disaster. No goals.
I actually don't think Erik Johnson has been that bad, he's been hurt a lot and he's usually so busy being the only defensemen who can skate and try to stop someone from scoring a goal he can't do anything offensively. Everyone else has been literal garbage though.

Bad News Gertner
04-22-2013, 07:39 AM
Dude he was the first overall pick and you traded a lot for him. Zero goals is not acceptable.

Shisen Kopf
04-22-2013, 08:18 AM
hey remember when the Avs were good

Hey remember when the wings were good and made the playoffs? Fucking Toronto is in a we ain't. This is awful #firebabcock #jimmyhowardsucks

Skippord
04-22-2013, 07:58 PM
Dude he was the first overall pick and you traded a lot for him. Zero goals is not acceptable.
Oh I agree 100 percent, but I think he's done everything well but score. So maybe if he has a better defensive partner next year(Seth Jones :'() he'll be alright. Still wish they had traded David Jones instead of Chris Stewart though.

Corndad
04-22-2013, 08:59 PM
Chris Neil is a joke.

Blitz
04-23-2013, 03:39 AM
The fact that Toronto is in the playoffs is good enough, but the fact that Detroit is on the bubble just makes everything extra delightful.

Bad News Gertner
04-23-2013, 05:58 AM
Chris Neil is a joke.

Steve Macintyre would have ended his life.

Corndad
04-23-2013, 01:29 PM
Steve Macintyre would have ended his life.

Pretty Much. Laughed so hard when Doug Murray got in his face too and he coward away.

Blitz
04-23-2013, 01:45 PM
Article is straight up embarrassing.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/04/22/why-is-pittsburgh-penguins-matt-cooke-so-interested-in-don-brennans-package

Corndad
04-23-2013, 02:50 PM
How was that even approved to be printed?? WTF?

Evil Vito
04-24-2013, 07:19 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Islanders in the playoffs.</font> :love:

owenbrown
04-25-2013, 06:21 AM
The Stanley Cup on the PTI set on Wednesday's show.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/391080_582634181754396_139886797_n.jpg

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Emperor Smeat
04-27-2013, 09:56 PM
:n: Bs with another third period blown lead.

Division comes down to the final game where if Bs win against Ottawa, they take the division and the #2 seed. If the Bs lose or end up tied with same amount of points, Habs take the division and the #2 seed.

parkmania
04-28-2013, 09:41 PM
Looks like the Pens get the Islanders in round 1.

Emperor Smeat
04-28-2013, 09:48 PM
Bs lost the season finalie which means Habs take the division. Habs get the #2 seed, Bs the #4 seed, and the Senators moved to #7 with the win.

Evil Vito
04-28-2013, 09:55 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Fuck. Really wanted to play Boston at this point.

Ah well. Unlike the NBA, all 16 teams that make the playoffs actually have a chance at going on a run. Glad the Isles are back in it.</font>

SlickyTrickyDamon
04-28-2013, 09:56 PM
Bruins Vs. Leafs. Going to be an interesting series.

Bad News Gertner
04-28-2013, 10:01 PM
Lol here's what I've noticed on facebook

Bruins fan to Leafs fan: we're gonna kick your ass

Leafs fan to Bruins fan: wooooo we made the playoffs!

Hahaha we Leafs fans don't give a shit.

SammyG
04-29-2013, 12:42 PM
Kings in 6.

parkmania
04-30-2013, 11:25 AM
Prediction time:

East:
Penguins (1) vs Isles (8) Pens in 5
Canadiens (2) vs Senators (7) Sens in 7
Capitals (3) vs Rangers (6) Caps in 5
Bruins (4) vs Leafs (5) Bruins in 6

Penguins (1) vs Senators (7) Pens in 5
Capitals (3) vs Bruins (4) Caps in 7

Penguins (1) vs Capitals (3) Pens in 6

West:
Blackhawks (1) vs Wild (8) Hawks in 4
Ducks (2) vs Red Wings (7) Wings in 6
Canucks (3) vs Sharks (6) Nucks in 6
Blues (4) vs Kings (5) Kings in 5

Blackhawks (1) vs Red Wings (7) Hawks in 7
Canucks (3) vs Kings (5) Kings in 6

Blackhawks (1) vs Kings (5) Hawks in 5


FINALS

Blackhawks (1) vs Penguins (1) Pens in 6



I don't get to watch much of the Western Conference, but I truthfully believe that there's little chance of anyone derailing the Pens, short of themselves.

And I really don't see that happening with the amount of playoff-tested talent they have.

LoDownM
04-30-2013, 11:38 PM
Good job Quick.

Bad News Gertner
05-01-2013, 01:12 AM
Leafs are probably gonna go 48-0, but it won't matter because I'm not watching a game this year.

Sabres are my darkhorse
Oilers won't make the playoffs

Finals will be Rangers vs Blues

Rangers in 6

Wasn't far off on this. Go Sabres!

RP
05-01-2013, 09:18 AM
WHEWWWWWW!

RP
05-01-2013, 09:24 AM
Prediction time:

East:
Penguins (1) vs Isles (8) Pens in 5
Canadiens (2) vs Senators (7) Sens in 7
Capitals (3) vs Rangers (6) Caps in 5
Bruins (4) vs Leafs (5) Bruins in 6

Penguins (1) vs Senators (7) Pens in 5
Capitals (3) vs Bruins (4) Caps in 7

Penguins (1) vs Capitals (3) Pens in 6

West:
Blackhawks (1) vs Wild (8) Hawks in 4
Ducks (2) vs Red Wings (7) Wings in 6
Canucks (3) vs Sharks (6) Nucks in 6
Blues (4) vs Kings (5) Kings in 5

Blackhawks (1) vs Red Wings (7) Hawks in 7
Canucks (3) vs Kings (5) Kings in 6

Blackhawks (1) vs Kings (5) Hawks in 5


FINALS

Blackhawks (1) vs Penguins (1) Pens in 6



I don't get to watch much of the Western Conference, but I truthfully believe that there's little chance of anyone derailing the Pens, short of themselves.

And I really don't see that happening with the amount of playoff-tested talent they have.


Do they reseed after every round? I thought Wings Hawks would only happen in the WCF.

I agree with most of that tho.

Pens vs Caps- Ovechkin vs Crosby might actually be awesome this time.

Hawks vs Canucks- Because it's just meant to be. I mean, what a Final Four that would be. Boston v Pens might be more appealing in the East, but i personally would like to see Caps vs Pens.

The Blackhawks are very very good. Good defense. Great offense. Great goaltending if Emery is healthy. Toews really should be the MVP of the league. The best 2-way player in the game hands down. Kane, Hossa..Saad is quietly the rookie of the year probably. The Blackhawks are stacked.

LoDownM
05-01-2013, 12:22 PM
Highest seed always plays the lowest seed in the second round, so it can happen.

Arashi Kage
05-01-2013, 08:08 PM
When did Redden join the B's???? I wasn't aware that he finally made it back into the NHL. Paying off so far for Boston. I loved Redden & Chara in Ottawa.

Coming from a life long leafs hater, I hope the Leafs pull this off and win the series. :y:

Evil Vito
05-01-2013, 08:44 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Welp...guess this is why not a single person in the world picked the Pens to lose to the Islanders.</font>

JimmyMess
05-01-2013, 09:29 PM
Well this game turned out exactly how I said it would.

Emperor Smeat
05-01-2013, 09:48 PM
:cool: Bs 4-1 win over the Leafs.


When did Redden join the B's???? I wasn't aware that he finally made it back into the NHL. Paying off so far for Boston. I loved Redden & Chara in Ottawa.

Got him at the trade deadline mainly for depth reasons and ended up only having to give up a late round conditional draft pick.

LoDownM
05-01-2013, 10:17 PM
PENSSS

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-01-2013, 10:18 PM
Lol here's what I've noticed on facebook

Bruins fan to Leafs fan: we're gonna kick your ass

Leafs fan to Bruins fan: wooooo we made the playoffs!

Hahaha we Leafs fans don't give a shit.

Make the playoffs after a full season and we'll give a shit.

weather vane
05-02-2013, 12:40 AM
That was a shit kicking. Not even sure what the Leafs can do to get back into the series. Tough to watch. Bruins.

DaveBrawl
05-02-2013, 08:18 AM
Avs get #1 pick in the draft.

#silverlinings

Nicky Fives
05-02-2013, 03:22 PM
a little late, but still.....

Pens in 5, Habs in 6, Caps in 5, Bruins in 4, Blackhawks in 6, Ducks in 7, Canucks in 7, Kings in 6

Arashi Kage
05-02-2013, 09:56 PM
Weird scheduling:

Leafs-B's get 2 days off between games 1 and 2.
Habs-Sens play games 1 and 2 on consecutive nights then only get 1 day off until game 3. :wtf:

Must be conflict of scheduling at the arenas.

LoDownM
05-03-2013, 12:44 AM
Holy crap this Wings/Ducks game.

Bad News Gertner
05-03-2013, 03:50 AM
Weird scheduling:

Leafs-B's get 2 days off between games 1 and 2.
Habs-Sens play games 1 and 2 on consecutive nights then only get 1 day off until game 3. :wtf:

Must be conflict of scheduling at the arenas.

CBC wants Leafs and Habs on opposite days to maximize T.V ratings. That's my guess and it's smart.

Nicky Fives
05-03-2013, 10:57 AM
MTL would have played on Saturday, but Marie-Mai (Quebec singer) is at the Bell Centre this weekend....

Bad News Gertner
05-03-2013, 08:53 PM
Well that explains it. Although is does benefit the network.

Evil Vito
05-03-2013, 10:13 PM
<font color=goldenrod>What a game. Looked like the Isles were gonna get blown out. Hopefully this can generate some momentum headed to the LI.</font>

Skippord
05-04-2013, 01:07 AM
RAFFI TORRES!

(rooting against the Canucks)

Emperor Smeat
05-04-2013, 10:05 PM
Leafs took Game 2 almost in a reverse of what happened in Game 1.

Leafs scored first but Bs ended up being more active in Game 1 while Bs scored first and the Leafs were more active afterwards in Game 2.

Blitz
05-05-2013, 03:32 AM
James Van Riemsdyk just dancing

Evil Vito
05-05-2013, 12:57 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Damn, what a disappointing first period. Isles get off to a quick 2-0 start and the crowd is absolutely shit hot. Then they give back the lead in 19 seconds after a couple of dumb penalties and the Pens pull ahead to close out the first. Crowd now sitting on their hands.</font>

Corndad
05-05-2013, 01:02 PM
That was the loudest I ever heard an Islanders crowd. Matches what we had here for first 2 games in Pittsburgh. Pens although ahead after 1 need to get back to physical game they had in Game 1.

Evil Vito
05-05-2013, 03:17 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Goddammit. Knew this game was over when that penalty came in.

Isles have played the Pens tough, but they need to win the next 2 if they want to score the upset for the series. They aren't winning back to back games in Pittsburgh.</font>

LoDownM
05-05-2013, 03:45 PM
They don't play back to back games at Pittsburgh again.

Evil Vito
05-05-2013, 04:06 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Shit. Forgot. In a weird way I think it works out better that way. This has been a fun series.</font>

parkmania
05-05-2013, 06:58 PM
Penguins still the only team to have not lost in OT this season.

LoDownM
05-05-2013, 07:10 PM
Now if they could just stop playing like shit when they have the lead...

parkmania
05-05-2013, 09:44 PM
I'm afraid to say it, but Crosby coming back may have been a mistake. It's like everyone (even Iginla, Murray, Morrow) puts it into neutral when Captain "The Kid" is in the lineup.

weather vane
05-05-2013, 11:03 PM
That's dumb.

Bad News Gertner
05-06-2013, 12:33 AM
Been saying this for a while: best way to combat Boston's toughness is to ignore it. Boston's defence are too slow for Toronto's forwards. Leafs got a shot.

Emperor Smeat
05-06-2013, 10:19 PM
:D Bs won and take the 2-1 series lead.

Bad News Gertner
05-07-2013, 03:15 AM
Leafs need to stop out shooting teams. They NEVER win when it happens. Oddest thing.

Skippord
05-07-2013, 03:34 AM
happened to the Avs a lot this year too

LoDownM
05-07-2013, 09:18 PM
God damn it, this is starting to turn into a repeat of the Flyers/Pens series from last year...

road doggy dogg
05-07-2013, 10:51 PM
There's no way Vokoun doesn't start game 5, right? That last goal Fleury gave up... wow I think that might be the softest playoff goal I've ever seen

Corndad
05-07-2013, 11:07 PM
God damn it, this is starting to turn into a repeat of the Flyers/Pens series from last year...

Arashi Kage
05-07-2013, 11:30 PM
God damn it, this is starting to turn into a repeat of the Flyers/Pens series from last year...

More terrifying is it turning into Pens / Isles from 20 years ago. When the Pens lost to the Islanders in 1993, I pulled down all my Lemieux posters from my bedroom wall (lol). Most upsetting series loss ever.

To make things worse, Patrick fires Scotty Bowman and the Pens get to watch Bowman lead the Wings to the top of the league for the rest of the decade.

parkmania
05-08-2013, 12:28 AM
If the Pens choke for the 3rd consecutive year, I fully expect there to be a changing of the guard both on- and off-ice.

Corndad
05-08-2013, 11:31 AM
If the Pens choke for the 3rd consecutive year, I fully expect there to be a changing of the guard both on- and off-ice.

Crosby and Shero would be the only 2 untouchables if that happens IMO. Everyone else is up for the chopping block. Can't believe how they can be so dominant to end the season yet start playing a different kind of game in the playoffs and stuff gets off course this badly. Yikes.

weather vane
05-08-2013, 04:20 PM
Would LOVE to see the Isles take out the Pens. beLIeve

Corndad
05-08-2013, 04:47 PM
Vokoun starting game 5.

Blitz
05-08-2013, 10:09 PM
Hell of a Leafs/Bruins game so far. Reimer has been unbelievable.

Emperor Smeat
05-08-2013, 10:24 PM
:D Krejci with the game winner.

Amazing game tonight. Lots of great saves by both goalies.

Blitz
05-08-2013, 10:46 PM
https://vine.co/v/b2PFre2auF5

weather vane
05-08-2013, 10:47 PM
BRUINS

Arashi Kage
05-08-2013, 10:57 PM
That was a great game. The Leafs looked great, but I had that bad feeling that the B's would get 1 chance after all the Toronto chances, and score.

OssMan
05-09-2013, 11:41 AM
no more "optimus reim" posts from Gertner?

Corndad
05-09-2013, 04:50 PM
LOL

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AYrTuU78AWw/UYvju0ui7kI/AAAAAAACL54/NZKy2a-tutw/s400/mA8DiDX.gif

Arashi Kage
05-09-2013, 06:33 PM
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Corndad
05-09-2013, 10:17 PM
Vokoun. Best Pen's Back up Goalie since Jean Claude Van Damme in Sudden Death. lol

Bad News Gertner
05-09-2013, 10:30 PM
no more "optimus reim" posts from Gertner?

Optimus Reim has been Toronto's best player.

DaveBrawl
05-10-2013, 08:48 AM
Jean Claude Van Damme in Sudden Death. lol
Best goalie ever.

weather vane
05-10-2013, 01:35 PM
Optimus Reim? You mean the Sherminator?

Skippord
05-10-2013, 03:18 PM
Joe Sakic running the Avs now

:cool:

DaveBrawl
05-10-2013, 04:42 PM
Awesome.

Bad News Gertner
05-10-2013, 11:41 PM
OPTIMUS RRrRRRRRRRrRRrRRRrRReIM!!!w!!!!

LoDownM
05-11-2013, 10:06 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSS Fucking finally get past the first fucking round.

Evil Vito
05-11-2013, 10:16 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Shit.

Islanders have nothing to be ashamed of, though. Great series, and in all honesty they were probably going to be too inexperienced to go all the way regardless.

Future finally looks bright for the franchise.</font>

Corndad
05-11-2013, 10:30 PM
Islanders are going to be a real threat if not next year in the next few years. They got speed like no ones business.

So happy for Orpik though. I can hear the Matt Cooke hate from Ottawa already lol

LoDownM
05-12-2013, 02:48 AM
They are gonna need a new goalie, Nabokov's only got a year or two left before he retires.

SammyG
05-12-2013, 06:21 PM
That was a hell of a series. Definitely gonna be watching game 7 tonight, ANA-DET, to see who the Kings play in the second round.

weather vane
05-12-2013, 09:55 PM
This is fucking gross.

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-12-2013, 10:12 PM
Fucking aye.

Bad News Gertner
05-12-2013, 10:27 PM
Hahahahahaha TORONTO FUCKING STRONG!!!

Corndad
05-12-2013, 10:37 PM
Wow Leafs might just pull this off. Reimer has been insane last few games.

Blitz
05-12-2013, 11:18 PM
James Reimer.

Corndad
05-13-2013, 09:40 PM
OMG the end of the Bruins/Leafs.

Emperor Smeat
05-13-2013, 10:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>PATRICE BERGERON FOR THE WIN! Bruins complete EPIC comeback in Game 7 to STUN the Maple Leafs, 5-4 in OT.</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/334127481118400515">May 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:D What a game.

OssMan
05-13-2013, 10:13 PM
fucking ESPN

Corndad
05-13-2013, 10:13 PM
*Switches Channel* Rangers 5-0 LOL Wow.

Evil Vito
05-13-2013, 10:28 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Oh god LOL Leafs</font>

Arashi Kage
05-13-2013, 10:37 PM
I chose not to watch OT. :p

Well, it's a really bad growing pain for the Leafs. Hopefully not stupid over-reactions from management. Carlyle must remain, Reimer must remain. This young Leafs team has potential to get better next season.

Blitz
05-13-2013, 10:41 PM
No complaints at all. Happy with this season. I haven't got to watch playoff hockey with my favourite team in 9 years, and I was on the edge of my seat tonight.

It was our game to lose, and we lost it. It happens. I'm still excited to watch the players on this team for seasons to come.

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-13-2013, 10:53 PM
Is Toronto rioting?

Bad News Gertner
05-14-2013, 12:45 AM
Ah well.

weather vane
05-14-2013, 01:27 AM
Boston Strong

El Fangel
05-14-2013, 01:53 AM
No complaints at all. Happy with this season. I haven't got to watch playoff hockey with my favourite team in 9 years, and I was on the edge of my seat tonight.

It was our game to lose, and we lost it. It happens. I'm still excited to watch the players on this team for seasons to come.

You have a team to brag about now, lets hope management sees that as well.

RaginRonic
05-14-2013, 07:11 AM
You have a team to brag about now, lets hope management sees that as well.

Unfortunately, this Leafs team will be completely ripped to shreds by better money with the 23 U.S. NHL Clubs, and Bell and Rogers will stupidly give up on Carlyle within 5 years.

Same endless cycle for the Leafs will continue unless they violate the league constitution to win a title.

#FUCKBOSTON4EVER

The above hashtag was created to slap the fans of Boston's sports teams in the face, as a reaction to using the sympathy everyone felt after the Boston Marathon bombings to ride that incident to an easy, unopposed run to a sports championship.

It's what you get when you engage in manipulative behavior as fans of Boston's teams.

Zdeno Chara = biggest ringer in NHL history. Hope he gets his neck broken and turned to a 7 foot tall crippled lump of shit.

#FUCKNHLINUNITEDSTATES

#CANADIANCOMMISH4NHLPLEASE

>8-(

LoDownM
05-14-2013, 08:52 AM
This guy again :roll:

RaginRonic
05-14-2013, 09:11 AM
This guy again :roll:

Well, seeing as how you're a Pens-loving faggot, I hope Marc-Andre Fleury suffers a total groin tear, and Sid is put out by a massive concussion.

In fact, I hope and pray that, with the lone exception of Ottawa's players, all of the other 7 teams beat the shit out of each other, and create a pile of bodies for me to laugh at.

And for cheering Pittsburgh, you're a useless lop of shit that needs his pussy ass kicked for being a fan of Gary Fagman's money too....you really are one naive motherfucker.

Penguins-Twink Poo-Pushers
Rangers-Fuck 'Em
Booins-FULL OF FAGGOTS!!!!
Red Wings-Hope the Hawks kill them all
Blackhawks-See Red Wings
Sharks-Fans are REALLY stupid
Kings-FUCK THEM FOREVER!!!!

#NBCRUNSNHL

Don't talk about the U.S. NHL teams near me. Unless it's their failures against Canada's NHL clubs, you don't get to speak positive about them near me, cause I fucking said so.

Fucking bastards!

>8-(

DaveBrawl
05-14-2013, 09:15 AM
Am I allowed to discuss the Nordiques near you?

DaveBrawl
05-14-2013, 09:15 AM
http://jsportsblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/quebec-nordiques.gif
#rememberthegoodtimes

DaveBrawl
05-14-2013, 09:17 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5fyw6g3eY1rndoaco1_1280.jpg
Canada's finest hockey moment

DaveBrawl
05-14-2013, 09:20 AM
Oops wrong logo.

#Mybad

RaginRonic
05-14-2013, 09:22 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5fyw6g3eY1rndoaco1_1280.jpg
Canada's finest hockey moment

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130110155218-patrick-roy-1993-stanley-cup-single-image-cut.jpg

Canada's BETTER finest hockey moment!

Fucker.

>8-(

Skippord
05-14-2013, 09:49 AM
hey remember when that Canada team traded him to the Avalanche and he won two more Stanley Cups in the greatest place on Earth?

RaginRonic
05-14-2013, 09:56 AM
hey remember when that Canada team traded him to the Avalanche and he won two more Stanley Cups in the greatest place on Earth?

Colorado is a social sewer, just like the other 22 U.S. NHL cities. Polish a turd, it's still a turd.

Though I'd happily confiscate the Avs, move them to Hamilton, and leave Denver $350 Million in the red in lost NHL monies, just for a few shits and giggles.

And even give the relocated team the knowledge to win a championship in Hamilton, just to leave Denver's hockey fans pissed off.

It's not like your opinion counts, asswipe.

>8-(

Skippord
05-14-2013, 10:43 AM
you mean like how the Avalanche won a Stanley Cup their first year in Colorado and no Canadian team has won in a million years?

DaveBrawl
05-14-2013, 11:05 AM
I think that is exactly what he meant.

DaveBrawl
05-14-2013, 11:12 AM
Don't understand why we're moving the Avs out of Denver into some ghost town in Moffat county over 200 miles away. Seems like a poor business decision...unless you're trying to bring the place back to life.

weather vane
05-14-2013, 05:08 PM
hahahaha leafssssssssssss

JimmyMess
05-14-2013, 05:11 PM
watching that game was just ..... well.... I got nothing. That was so insane I have no response but to laugh it was so ridiculous

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-14-2013, 05:35 PM
Unfortunately, this Leafs team will be completely ripped to shreds by better money with the 23 U.S. NHL Clubs, and Bell and Rogers will stupidly give up on Carlyle within 5 years.

Same endless cycle for the Leafs will continue unless they violate the league constitution to win a title.

#FUCKBOSTON4EVER

The above hashtag was created to slap the fans of Boston's sports teams in the face, as a reaction to using the sympathy everyone felt after the Boston Marathon bombings to ride that incident to an easy, unopposed run to a sports championship.

It's what you get when you engage in manipulative behavior as fans of Boston's teams.

Zdeno Chara = biggest ringer in NHL history. Hope he gets his neck broken and turned to a 7 foot tall crippled lump of shit.

#FUCKNHLINUNITEDSTATES

#CANADIANCOMMISH4NHLPLEASE

>8-(

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PxzTTvXDzNU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-14-2013, 05:37 PM
Well, seeing as how you're a Pens-loving faggot, I hope Marc-Andre Fleury suffers a total groin tear, and Sid is put out by a massive concussion.

In fact, I hope and pray that, with the lone exception of Ottawa's players, all of the other 7 teams beat the shit out of each other, and create a pile of bodies for me to laugh at.

And for cheering Pittsburgh, you're a useless lop of shit that needs his pussy ass kicked for being a fan of Gary Fagman's money too....you really are one naive motherfucker.

Penguins-Twink Poo-Pushers
Rangers-Fuck 'Em
Booins-FULL OF FAGGOTS!!!!
Red Wings-Hope the Hawks kill them all
Blackhawks-See Red Wings
Sharks-Fans are REALLY stupid
Kings-FUCK THEM FOREVER!!!!

#NBCRUNSNHL

Don't talk about the U.S. NHL teams near me. Unless it's their failures against Canada's NHL clubs, you don't get to speak positive about them near me, cause I fucking said so.

Fucking bastards!

>8-(

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UbDOR-MEwMU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

JimmyMess
05-14-2013, 05:39 PM
Ronic.... calm down guy.

RaginRonic
05-14-2013, 06:44 PM
It is only for the U.S. Criminal Code, and the Criminal Code of Canada, that you are all shielded from your rightful fates for wearing the colors of all 23 U.S. NHL clubs, like the naive, selfish, and self-entitled children you all are.

Let your minds think about that, fuckfaces.

#U.S.NHLBANKRUPTCYPLEASE

>8-(

Bad News Gertner
05-14-2013, 06:46 PM
Get Aids. Seriously. You're awful.

LoDownM
05-14-2013, 08:46 PM
Well, it's clearly all the teams in the US' fault that Canadian teams choke in the playoffs, and not the teams fault at all.

Emperor Smeat
05-14-2013, 09:44 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2625971/goalietrap_medium.gif

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-14-2013, 10:20 PM
0-1 for Canada's last shot Ronic. Fuck you. No offense to any real Canadian hockey fan who aren't troll faggots.

Corndad
05-14-2013, 11:28 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F-0H0XJBMNo/UZLio-nfwCI/AAAAAAACMpQ/2Ra97ZdpGXQ/s747/monster.gif

Think Eric Gryba's karma caught up with him? Karma's name is Brooks Orpik.

Blitz
05-14-2013, 11:58 PM
Ragin Ronic

Bad News Gertner
05-15-2013, 12:18 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F-0H0XJBMNo/UZLio-nfwCI/AAAAAAACMpQ/2Ra97ZdpGXQ/s747/monster.gif

Think Eric Gryba's karma caught up with him? Karma's name is Brooks Orpik.

Karma? Gryba's hit on Eller was clean.

El Fangel
05-15-2013, 01:00 AM
^ What he said.

Bad News Gertner
05-15-2013, 01:01 AM
As was Orpik's

JimmyMess
05-15-2013, 08:38 AM
0-1 for Canada's last shot Ronic. Fuck you. No offense to any real Canadian hockey fan who aren't troll faggots.

Oh trust me... that kid doesn't speak for Canadians.

El Fangel
05-15-2013, 09:16 PM
And if he does, it is out of his ass because his head is covered in tinfoil.

Bad News Gertner
05-15-2013, 10:19 PM
I'll say this: I've never understood people from Canada cheering for other Canadian teams when thei rteam gets knocked out. I would never do that. Fuck the other teams.

LoDownM
05-16-2013, 12:06 AM
Obviously you aren't a real Canadian then /ronicmode

Skippord
05-16-2013, 12:09 AM
I root for the other American teams when the Avs aren't involved

so things are going pretty well for me

LoDownM
05-16-2013, 12:14 AM
The only time I "root" for other teams, is when they are playing the team that knock the Penguins out of the playoffs. Or whoever are playing the Flyers.

Bad News Gertner
05-16-2013, 01:42 AM
When the Leafs lose, I hope for an influenza outbreak and the playoffs have to be cancelled.

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-16-2013, 02:52 AM
That's why you are a great sports fan unlike Krimzon who latches on to surviving teams like a rat on an sinking ship.

Emperor Smeat
05-16-2013, 10:54 PM
:D Marchand, Bs win


NHL ended up suspended Sharks Raffi Torres for the rest of the Kings-Sharks series as punishment for the hit on Jarret Stoll and him missing out on at least a few games for the Kings.

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-16-2013, 11:07 PM
<img class="mainImage" src="http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-bergeron-19.png" style="width: 348px; height: 407px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">

What a win. Unbelievable pass from Bergeron for the easy touch in for Marchand!

SammyG
05-17-2013, 03:39 PM
Last night's win was ridiculous.

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-19-2013, 06:19 PM
Bruins trounce the Rangers 5-2 and take the 2-0 series lead to New York. :D

weather vane
05-20-2013, 12:29 AM
#leafsnation

Emperor Smeat
05-20-2013, 08:22 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2652807/netderp_medium.gif

SlickyTrickyDamon
05-21-2013, 10:13 PM
Rangers tried to make Lundquist do too much. 3-0 series lead for the B's with the 2-1 victory. Daniel Paille with two straight goals in the 3rd to nearly seal the Rangers playoff fate. Bruins a game away from their 2nd Conference Final Birth in three years.

Emperor Smeat
05-21-2013, 10:19 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2659405/boingpuck_medium.gif

:lol: that was the game winning goal for the Bs

LoDownM
05-22-2013, 09:48 PM
Well this game is starting to turn into a blow out. Good, good.

The Fraze
05-23-2013, 12:48 AM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130110155218-patrick-roy-1993-stanley-cup-single-image-cut.jpg

Canada's BETTER finest hockey moment!

Fucker.

>8-(

I don't know, guys. The Sharks winning the Cup would probably be the only thing to top this moment. I remember watching with my Avs jersey on, felt so good for him.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9-JOZ0q4XDk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LoDownM
05-23-2013, 01:49 AM
Miss those History Will be Made ads, liked them.

DaveBrawl
05-23-2013, 04:49 PM
Patrick Roy new coach/VP of the Avs. :cool:

DaveBrawl
05-23-2013, 04:51 PM
Weiss, Castilla & Bichette - Rockies
Elway - Broncos
Sakic & Roy - Avs

If they can get Mutombo & Laphonso Ellis back to run the Nuggets we will have a complete set.

Triple Naitch
05-23-2013, 06:23 PM
Pretty excited to see Roy back.

parkmania
05-23-2013, 07:34 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/559491_534348953295310_191389958_n.jpg

LoDownM
05-23-2013, 07:43 PM
lulz.

Corndad
05-24-2013, 10:28 AM
YES.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HmpRondWlKk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LoDownM
05-24-2013, 10:17 PM
Can't wait to see Ronic's rage now that there is no Canadian teams left in the playoffs.