MLB Fantasy Baseball 2013

[Moonax]

Is up and running.

Who is in?

League ID#: 48073
League Name: TPWW Baseball
Password: horsey
Custom League URL: http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/tpww

Any comments about scoring, positions, draft date welcome.

[YOUR Hero]

one thing Ive noticed as years go by is there seems to be more ctergories added, to the point there are (imo) too many.
I'm not suggesting 5x5, but perhaps 6x6, 7x7 at the most (or 7x6???)
s'aul good

[Moonax]

What would you suggest as a 6x6 or 7x7?

What I'd like is a league that makes different skill sets valuable. I'd also like to make sure that one dimensional players aren't over valued.

[YOUR Hero]

yup agreed. I don't exactly know, I'm hoping to stimulate some discussion

what's your opinion on the saves/holds catergory?

[Moonax]

It is interesting because it allows for guys who are stuck in bullpen by committee or who lose their jobs etc

I was also mulling having outs rather than k as a category. It seems odd that a guy who strikes out a lot of people is more valuable than a ground ball pitcher etc - strikeouts are fascist ;)

What would you take out?

Take out total bases? Hits?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Already have my first draft going on. It's a league with another message board I post at. It's an offline draft so we started it really early so that everybody can have ample time to make their picks, trades can occur during the draft, etc.

10 team league and have the 10th pick. Started off with McCutchen and Kershaw as my top two picks, and then grabbed Reyes and A-Gon in the next go around. Nice start.

Also there are individual OF spots in that league, so I'm liking that A-Gon can be played in RF if need be.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

It is interesting because it allows for guys who are stuck in bullpen by committee or who lose their jobs etc

I was also mulling having outs rather than k as a category. It seems odd that a guy who strikes out a lot of people is more valuable than a ground ball pitcher etc - strikeouts are fascist ;)

What would you take out?

Take out total bases? Hits?

If I were removing one, between total base hits and hits I'd remove total base hits as total base his lends itself toward power hitters. Not purely, but more so than hits.

[YOUR Hero]

Already have my first draft going on. It's a league with another message board I post at. It's an offline draft so we started it really early so that everybody can have ample time to make their picks, trades can occur during the draft, etc.

10 team league and have the 10th pick. Started off with McCutchen and Kershaw as my top two picks, and then grabbed Reyes and A-Gon in the next go around. Nice start.

Also there are individual OF spots in that league, so I'm liking that A-Gon can be played in RF if need be.

it's only my opinion, but I wouldn't take a pitcher in the first 4 rounds of a draft. unless the price was right, (auction draft) I wouldn't take a pitcher until probably my 6th pick

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There was a major run on pitching in the next round, so I'm happy with my decision. Most of the people in the league have like-minded draft strategies.

Also having my picks "together" forced me to go for pitching a bit earlier than I would have otherwise.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

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No Medals Yet...

Amazingly, Dave has not earned ANY medals in this league.
User: Dave
Date earned: N/A

[Moonax]

lets say 8x8 scoring cats

with a mix of stats that don't favour one type of player. Which 16 would you go for?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Not fully sold on holds as a fantasy stat yet. What is this net saves and holds thing? One stat shouldn't count for more than one category.

[Moonax]

You would have holds + saves = so both count equally. But you wouldn't have holds and saves as separate cats.

W, Outs, WHIP, ERA, H+S gives you 5 cats - what other 3? 'Negative' cats like HR, OBP, L?

[YOUR Hero]

obp, hrs

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Quality Start is one i'm quite fond of. Complete game/shutout are ones that I sometimes include in leagues I run.

Not exactly a fan of Loses since there's a lot of factors that make a team lose a game not all on the pitcher. Walks is a good negative stat which is usually all on the pitcher. Along with the ones YOUR Hero stated.

Strike-outs?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Joined up can't think of a clever name this early.

[Moonax]

Got 9 pitching cats which:

W,OUT,HR,BB,ERA,WHIP,OBPA,QS,SV+H'

Now for 9 hitting + fielding cats

Any suggestions?

Also, it seems to be getting much harder to get people interested in doing fantasy sports the last few seasons.

[Frank Drebin]

Would like to join, but a million categories is a turnoff. If you have WHIP, having BB is a bit redundant. Same goes for wins and QS. It tends to unbalance the game from my experience.

Why not just 5x5 or 6x6 and change some of outdated categories like AVE to OBP? I'm assuming you can't do many SABR stats like FIP or WOBA, right?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

QS is a good because it balances out the "good pitchers on shitty teams" argument. It's 6.0 innings with less than 3 earned runs. It's not really related to wins. A quality start can lead to a win with a good offense.

Too much Moneyball turns fantasy baseball into a math class. It's why people like Fantasy Football better no averages at all.

Although FIP would combined strikeouts, walks, hit by pitches, and homeruns for pitching. It's a little bit math heavy though. Not sure if it's available in yahoo. This stat seems to directly go against what you were talking about not liking Quality Start though.

[Moonax]

These are the choices available in Yahoo


Batters

Games Played
Games Started
At Bats
Runs
Hits
Singles
Doubles
Triples
Home Runs
Runs Batted In
Sacrifice Hits
Sacrifice Flys
Stolen Bases
Caught Stealing
Walks
Intentional Walks
Hit By Pitch
Strikeouts
Ground Into Double Play
Total Bases
Putouts
Assists
Errors
Fielding Percentage
Batting Average
On-base Percentage
Slugging Percentage
On-base + Slugging Percentage
Extra Base Hits
Net Stolen Bases
Stolen Base Percentage
Hitting for the Cycle
Plate Appearances
Grand Slam Home Runs
Outfield Assists
Double Plays Turned
Catcher Interference

Pitchers

Pitching Appearances
Games Started
Innings Pitched
Wins
Losses
Complete Games
Shutouts
Saves
Outs
Hits
Total Batters Faced
Runs
Earned Runs
Home Runs
Walks
Intentional Walks
Hit Batters
Strikeouts
Wild Pitches
Balks
Stolen Bases Allowed
Batters Grounded Into Double Plays
Save Chances
Holds
Total Bases Allowed
Earned Run Average
(Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched
Strikeouts per Walk Ratio
Strikeouts per Nine Innings
Pitch Count
Singles Allowed
Doubles Allowed
Triples Allowed
Relief Wins
Relief Losses
Pickoffs
Relief Appearances
On-base Percentage Against
Winning Percentage
Hits Per Nine Innings
Walks Per Nine Innings
No Hitters
Perfect Games
Save Percentage
Inherited Runners Scored
Quality Starts
Blown Saves
Net Saves
Saves + Holds
Net Saves and Holds

[RoXer]

CATCHER INTERFERENCE!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

One stat league catchers interference. So many ties.

[Moonax]

Having seen the list. Which 9 hitting cats would people pick?

[YOUR Hero]

Both TPWW drafts are on the same day. One needs to change

[RP]

let me in. let me live

[Moonax]

let me in. let me live

The sign up details are in the first post in the thread.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Both TPWW drafts are on the same day. One needs to change

There's enough time in between them. I like it. Draftamania!!!

[YOUR Hero]

I have a life

[Moonax]

I have a life

Says the man with 102,190 posts. :)

Who is running the other league? I'd prefer not to shift the date simply because I am either working or busy on the other weekend dates that are available.

[DaveWadding]

I am. My league draft just moved to March 30th.

[Triple Naitch]

Can we keep it on a Sunday? Or at least after 4 pm EST on Saturday.

[DaveWadding]

Can't do Sunday. I could probably move it back to 4PM EST though.

[Triple Naitch]

How about 4:30?

[RP]

I can keep 5 in my money keeper league. This team is my baby. Maybe the greatest fantasy team i've ever put together over a season. They finished 2nd last year. Lost a tie breaker in the final game. Clearly i'm keeping Trout. Probably keeping Harper. I would like to keep Machado, but i might be able to draft him. I really dont wanna let Zimmerman go and I kinda wanna keep Wilin Rosario because i think he might be a beast. I'm lost. Help!


Mike Trout
Carlos González
Dustin Pedroia
Curtis Granderson
Bryce Harper
B.J. Upton
Pablo Sandoval
Anthony Rizzo
Wilin Rosario
Miguel Montero
Manny Machado
Jurickson Profar
Cole Hamels
Craig Kimbrel
Mat Latos
Jordan Zimmermann
Brandon Morrow
Doug Fister
Hiroki Kuroda
Huston Street
Jarrod Parker
Addison Reed
Jeremy Hellickson
Matt Thornton
Francisco Rodríguez
Daniel Hudson

[Moonax]

I think that steroid busts ought to be an extra category.

[Moonax]

The draft is this sunday and there are still slots available if anyone wants to join

[Adder]

Moonax, I wont be able to make the draft, but I have joined

[Moonax]

Excellent.

The draft is this sunday so if anyone wants to join then now is the time.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit, I thought autodraft might have wound up fucking me after I blew most of my budget and left but it filled out the rest of my starting lineup with Rosario (who was probably my top C target), Espinosa, and Headley. Plus Ortiz on the bench who I can always plug in the Utility spot.

Pitching needs some help - but god I love my team.</font>

[road doggy dogg]

Rosario was your top rated catcher? Yikes. His value rests on sustaining a pretty impressive HR total.

Of course, I really have no room to talk after spending $11 on Santana when Molina was still on the board. /shrug
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Somewhat happy with the team I have out there right now. When Tex gets put on the DL I'll get another pitcher to even out the numbers a bit. Def went overboard on the Red Sox, but they were cheap options. Hoping for a bounce back year for Bucholz with Farrell in charge of the team.

Is Napoli going to lose the C position since he won't be playing it? Need to figure that one out.

[YOUR Hero]

nope he's good all year. if he (or anyone plays 5 times at C or any position) that position is added to the player

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah Yahoo historically errs on the side of adding eligibilities to players as opposed to removing them.

Typically you'll see players gain eligibility throughout the course of the season (after 5, 10, 15, whatever their benchmark is for games started at the position), but they won't take someone's eligibility away until after the season is done. Marques Colston being TE-eligible was a fun year in fantasy football.
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[Adder]

Pleased with the team I got. I did some pre-ranking and it looks like it paid off for the most part. Got some waiver pick ups that I really like too.

[Adder]

RDD I made a trade proposal to you. Pretty sure you are a Detriot fan. Looking to you a trade steady home team guy for potential upside guy

[road doggy dogg]

Looked it over, thinking about it. If this was a keeper league I'd turn that down in a heartbeat :p But I'll probably accept. I love me some Fister, I think his numbers will be better this year (wearing 2011-2nd-half rose-tinted glasses)
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[Droford]

I'm looking forward to the draft on Saturday, I will actually be present since im off.

[RoXer]

Oh shit, I just made plans for during the draft. God I'm an idiot.

[The Condor]

Regretfully, I'm working today and will not be present for the draft

[RoXer]

we about to draft

[YOUR Hero]

my team needs more jays. make offers

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Went through my budget fairly quickly since I needed to leave. Looks like autopick immediately spent my remaining budget on Wieters.

Loving the look of my lineup. Pitching is pretty much gonna come down to Lincecum. I spent $10 because I really think he can go back to how he was before 2012. If he reverts to form Felix, Cain, and Lincecum can probably overcome my pitching shortcomings.

Punted saves as I'd rather have guys like Robertson and Benoit over Grilli, etc.</font>

[RoXer]

There are a lot of players out there on other teams I want but I'm not willing to give up most of my team.

If you have Ichiro, Lincecum, Seagler, Cespedes, Hill, Crisp, Haren, Vogelsong, Perez, or McCarthy let's talk. jeez that's a lot of people. I probably dont reall want them that badly. nvm

[Keith]

I'm happy with my Teamsters.

[YOUR Hero]

I just dropped Ichiro and sent you (Roxer) a trade request

[Keith]

Ok, I just dropped Carlos Ruiz. I didn't realize he had been suspended 25 games.

I added JP Arencibia.

[YOUR Hero]

50 games... might have serve 1/2 last year. He was killing it for me last year

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Would really like the MLB teams to get off their asses and put the people on the DL who are going on the DL already.

Not a great draft. Way too many autopickers. Not that happy with the team right now.

[Keith]

LOL I won't lie, I remembered Rick Sutcliffe saying this, and that's what made me pick Detwiler in the draft. If Rick actually is right, I'll be one happy guy!


http://i.imgur.com/L1RFdjR.png

[Droford]

I dare say I have the best pitching. No one will beat me in the save category or K's I think.

[Triple Naitch]

I really like my team. Should be a good debut.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Stupid constant waivers and 4 moves per week. :mad:

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>2 days into the season and I'm already forgetting to set my daily lineups.</font> :o

[YOUR Hero]

Stupid constant waivers and 4 moves per week. :mad:
what?

I like this.

[road doggy dogg]

I like the idea behind it but it's impossible to stream pitchers with any amount of reliability.

Also, somehow I lost 16-2 this week. So there's that.
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[YOUR Hero]

quicker turn around time would be nice

[Droford]

Up 12-1-1

woo

[RoXer]

Score Summary


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</th><th class="stat desc"><abbr title="Runs">R</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_67" class="stat desc"><abbr title="Home Runs">HR</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_66" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_64" title="Runs Batted In">RBI</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_47" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_62" title="Stolen Bases">SB</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_61" class="stat desc"><abbr title="Batting Average">AVG</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_84" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_85" title="On-base Percentage">OBP</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_60" class="stat desc"><abbr title="Slugging Percentage">SLG</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_34" class="stat desc"><abbr title="Wins">W</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_102" class="stat desc"><abbr title="Saves">SV</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_103" class="stat desc"><abbr title="Strikeouts">K</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_105" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_106" title="Holds">HLD</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_109" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_107" title="Earned Run Average">ERA</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_112" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_110" title="(Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched">WHIP</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_115" class="stat desc"><abbr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_113" title="Strikeouts per Walk Ratio">K/BB</abbr>
</th> <th id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_117" class="pts last">Score
</th></tr></thead><tbody id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_26"><tr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_31" class="odd first"><td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_70" class="team first">Los Golden Sombreros (http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/3503/4)</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_68" class="stat">37</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_78" class="stat">10</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_76" class="stat">31</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_80" class="stat">5</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_45" class="stat">.320</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_82" class="stat">.393</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_30" class="stat">0.529</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_33" class="stat">4</td> <td class="stat">1</td> <td class="stat">50</td> <td class="stat">1</td> <td class="stat">2.78</td> <td class="stat">1.13</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_119" class="stat">2.38</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_118" class="pts last">12</td> </tr><tr id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_25" class="even last"><td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_71" class="team first">Doped up dozen (http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/3503/11)</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_72" class="stat">21</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_73" class="stat">5</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_74" class="stat">24</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_75" class="stat">2</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_24" class="stat">.259</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_28" class="stat">.307</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_29" class="stat">0.396</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_98" class="stat">3</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_38" class="stat">0</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_97" class="stat">49</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_96" class="stat">3</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_95" class="stat">4.68</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_94" class="stat">1.23</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_93" class="stat">3.50</td> <td id="yui_3_8_1_10_1365982800323_91" class="pts last">2</td></tr></tbody></table>

[The Condor]

2 weeks in, in first place. Feel like I need more pitching, if anyone needs an outfielder lemme know and we might be able to work a deal

[Moonax]

quicker turn around time would be nice

In what sense?

[YOUR Hero]

the waivers if could be should be next day, not two days.

[Moonax]

the waivers if could be should be next day, not two days.

It's set to one day not two which is the shortest it can be without having 'no waivers'

You should be able to check the setting yourself. If you can make it shorter then go for it

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I had a .82 era last week. Need a home-run in that league in the Red Sox 2nd game or I might lose 8-9.

[Adder]

players should become instant Free Agents when they are made available.

[RoXer]

On the day I finally decide to call it quits on Josh Hamilton and bench him, he goes 4/4. God damnit

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Mike Fuckin' By God Napoli!

[Moonax]

players should become instant Free Agents when they are made available.

That then means we don't have any waivers for players. The problem is that what happens is that people who live in 'favourable' timezones sit on the waiver wire for it to update. At least this way everyone has a shot at players and no one gets mugged by the ultra-competitive.

[road doggy dogg]

How is it that the two teams who have literally been shitting the bed the entire season, like laughably bad, are cruising to the championship game? It's comical how frustrating that must be to witness. I think we've both been a steady ~50 games back from the lead all season long. The downside of having an 8 team league with all 8 teams making the playoffs lol
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[Adder]

yeah it sucks (sux)