Aces & Eights has officially ran out of steam... (IMPACT Spoilers)

[James Steele]

D-Lo Brown was the big swerve/reveal as "Vice President of Aces & Eights".

[whiteyford]

Yeah that's been rumored for a while, not really sure if anyone cares about D-Lo anymore though.

[Skippord]

I'm pretty sure you could say that second part 10 years ago and you'd still be right

[Black Widow]

Aces & Eights is stupid!

the cheerleader team at my old school was more intimadating.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

What's with all the black people in a biker gang? It don't make no sense I tells ya.

[Classy and Gassy]

You better recognize! I loved 90s D'Lo and the chest protector.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yay that means he gonna wrestle! You damn right! I'm DOWN WITH THE BROWN!

[mike adamle]

D'Lo was very boring in ROH in 2009, not really looking forward to him in TNA in 2013.

[MoFo]

Love D'lo.

Don't care about TNA tho.

lol @ their nWo being a bunch of jobbers.

[Heisenberg]

Should of left Sting's sorry ass out on the street.

[James Steele]

Wes Brisco looked and sounded weird when he did his promo last night.

[James Steele]

I do love heel Tazz announcing.

[erickman]

i kind of like the fact it is d-lo make them all midcards thats why the only belt they have is the tv belt, hate that they are feuding with the main everners like angle though. i say better d-lo then jeff jerret and eric bishoff and hogan.

[James Steele]

Fat D-Lo was indeed a "shocker", but it isn't one that will help me keep watching this feud that is more drawn out than Mae Young's vagina.

[Savio]

Bully Ray will be Pres, it won't make sense but its gonna happen

[Savio]

How is D'lo Vice Pres and Devon is SOA? lol

[James Steele]

Ron Simmons will be revealed as President and As & 8s will be turned into the NEW Nation of Domination.

[James Steele]

Due to copyright issues, they will be called the "Confederation of Control"

[XL]

It's a shame really, the plot points make sense (Al Snow taken out do that D'Lo gets the spot in the Gut Check panel alongside Taz to ensure that Wes Brisco gets his contract and setup the turn on Angle) but the payoff - if that is the final payoff - is kinda weak.

[the4thnobleman]

Due to copyright issues, they will be called the "Confederation of Control"

And instead of "DAMN" it'll be "SHAM" or something.....referencing the fact that they never get title shots is a "SHAM".

The whole thing will be legit parody at that.

[The Condor]

Started off weak to begin with in my opinion, it was kind of a milk toast, bland sort of invasion angle. Never got into it, and as its progressed its gotten worse. TNA was pretty damn entertaining about 2 years ago, perhaps in an unintentional way, but I can't get into it lately at all.

[mike adamle]

Kurt Angle has had some classics at Lockdown the last few years. This is make or break for Wes Brisco.

[The Ripper]

I haven't liked the Aces & 8's story at all. They are booked weak and made to look like idiots really. I love Doc, Wes Brisco, and Mr. Anderson but they just look stupid in this stable.

[Droford]

Bully Ray will be Pres, it won't make sense but its gonna happen

Eric young will turn on team Tna at lock down since that makes even less sense

[Shisen Kopf]

whats better T and the letter A or ROH?

[Droford]

I'm also kinda pissed the cut the mma chick in gut check and let the talentless amazon lady yada (?) Have a contract

[Tom Guycott]

Can't see how this is a "swerve"... some of us called this months ago. The shape of D-Lo's head gave it away while people were trying to un-edit the voice (when EVERYONE was still masked) and saying it was anyone from Bischoff to Jeff Jarrett to Dixie Carter as the disguised talker.

[James Steele]

The fact that D-Lo Brown is the "OMG!!1 HE'S IN ACES AND EIGHTS TOO!!!" in 2013 is ridiculous.

[Tom Guycott]

At least it wasn't another appearance of Fat Chris Harris. I prefer D-Lo to this.

[teamXtremist]

well it took a min but dlos getting his big push lol

[James Steele]

I'd mark out if he wore the chest protector under the vest every week.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/540/676/DloBrown2_display_image.jpg?1320850893

[James Steele]

I love D-Lo Brown, but come the fuck on.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m696ecbSFA1ql0k28o1_500.png

Fun Fact: D-Lo Brown was the first ever Euro-Continental Champion.

[mike adamle]

So is the president gonna be Trent Beretta?

[erickman]

Kurt Angle has had some classics at Lockdown the last few years. This is make or break for Wes Brisco.

i never got to see him in roh, but they and angle must be high on wes giving him a one on one with angle at a big ppv, if wes does good that could be the best match of the ppv.

[mike adamle]

i never got to see him in roh, but they and angle must be high on wes giving him a one on one with angle at a big ppv, if wes does good that could be the best match of the ppv.

He wasn't in ROH...

[Ultra Mantis]

Sure he was, he was the tag team champions and they made it look like he was actually two people using camera trickery

[mike adamle]

Those Briscoe's are much better than Wes

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm really not into the Aces & Eights angle at all, but it seems like it's been solid enough booking. It just doesn't sizzle. Kurt Angle should beat Wes Brisco in what will hopefully be a star-making performance for the young man and Aces & Eights should probably get the win against the face team. People expect some sort of betrayal, but TNA should just take a play from the WWE's book and have its heel group just work better together and beat the mismatched faces.

[Curd]

So long as Impact! Wrestling doesn't book A&E to job to Hogan in a cage match or the like.

[Curd]

And whenever Jesse Sorensen returns, he could swerve the marks by tossing aside the normal babyface status of someone returning from such a horrendous injury and join A&E much like Buff Bagwell did with the nWo when returning from his neck injury.

[mike adamle]

He's probably president now that you mention it

[Tom Guycott]

I love D-Lo Brown, but come the fuck on.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m696ecbSFA1ql0k28o1_500.png

Fun Fact: D-Lo Brown was the <s>first</s> best ever Euro-Continental Champion.

* :y:

[Logan]

FINALLY the long awaited, yet predictable, bully ray turn happened tonight. Ill give tna credit... they waited longer than I thought to turn him.

To " db, "YES, YES, YES! "

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Bully Ray heel turn sounds really predictable, but Ray is such a good heel that it's probably the smartest move they could do with him. "Let the stupid bitch cry!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ray should put Hardy through a table and put him on the shelf for a few weeks to give Hardy some time off (keeps him fresh and in good spirits) and builds heat for heel Ray.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They're building to D'Lo Brown vs. Kurt Angle it seems. A battle between former Euro-Continental Champions.

[James Steele]

They're building to D'Lo Brown vs. Kurt Angle it seems. A battle between former Euro-Continental Champions.

13 years too late.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It is late, but I wonder if they could make that part of D'Lo's gimmick -- a dude who just never got his chance.

[James Steele]

D-Lo hasn't wrestled in 3 years, and it isn't like people were dying to see D-Lo Brown make a return. His return to WWE fizzled out completely and he struck out in ROH.

[James Steele]

Fun Fact: D-Lo Brown and William Regal are tied for most reigns as WWF European Champion with both men having 4 reigns.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Is D'Lo in shape?

[James Steele]

WWE really missed the boat in not having Wade Barrett or Antonio Cesaro replace the U.S. or I.C. title with the European Championship.

[Mr. Nerfect]

William Regal is probably my favourite wrestler ever. Love that man.

[James Steele]

Is D'Lo in shape?

Based off of his girth of his skull and the skin tight nature of his polo shirt on IMPACT, I'd say no.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I dunno -- I'd like to think that TNA wouldn't be putting D'Lo back on TV if they didn't feel he had something to deliver. It really wouldn't surprise me though...

[Mr. Nerfect]

If the WWE attempts to do that Harlem Shake bullshit at WrestleMania, I hope that it starts with Santino Marella, Brodus Clay & Tensai coming out to do it, only for 3MB to crash the party as party-pooping heels do. They get their asses kicked and then they do the Shake, but then William Regal's music hits and he comes out in a nice suit and looks absolutely disgusted with everyone...then he starts funking the fuck out as only Mr. Regal can.

[James Steele]

...and just because:

http://www.miserableretailslave.com/Chris%20Jericho%20Undisputed%20Champ.jpg

[Rollermacka]

Lockdown "What a Twist"
Bully Ray wins the title and is the President Aces & Eights

Not gonna lie, it could have been a lot worse (so I guess it would be consider a "win" by TNA standards)

[James Steele]

Oddly enough, Matt Hardy has the 2nd longest reign as European Champion at 125 days. British Bulldog is #1 with 206 days as champion. Triple H and X-Pac are tied for 3rd with 120 day reigns.

[James Steele]

Chris Jericho has the shortest reign at 1 day with Crash Holly having the 2nd shortest reign at 2 days. Jericho lost it to Eddie Guerrero the night after winning it at WrestleMania 2000. Crash Holly won it from Regal at Rebellion 2000 but lost it back to him the following RAW.

[Keith]

I dunno -- I'd like to think that TNA wouldn't be putting D'Lo back on TV if they didn't feel he had something to deliver. It really wouldn't surprise me though...

What could D'lo Brown possibly deliver as a main character?

He didn't deliver in 1998, he's not gonna deliver in 2013.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn't we all used to love D'Lo?

[James Steele]

WWE should bring back Rebellion. It's a good name for a PPV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Crash Holly... :'(

[James Steele]

Didn't we all used to love D'Lo?

Yes, but its been 13 years and I can't take him seriously being a focal point of a "major" promotion.

[Keith]

Didn't we all used to love D'Lo?

Yeah, but in a "Santino Marella" kind of way.

Not in a "Holy shit! D'lo is the masked man!" kind of way.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE should bring back Rebellion. It's a good name for a PPV.

I also think that the WWE would be able to pull off a British PPV a lot better in today's day and age. Back when the WWE did their British PPVs, they kind of felt like filler. Wade Barrett challenging for the WWE Championship at a British PPV could be kind of huge.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree that having D'Lo revealed as a masked man is a bit much in 2013, but his involvement in the Aces & Eights makes sense from a bitter veteran point of view. And from that point of view I think I could actually really get into D'Lo Brown vs. Kurt Angle, even if I feel that Angle should be working with guys that have a future. But maybe they are good friends or something, and Angle specifically wants to work with D'Lo?

[James Steele]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm6gmzDPff1qetjf6o1_500.jpg

[James Steele]

Speaking of missed opportunities:

http://www.wwe.com/f/video/thumb/2012/03/20090929_ECW_regal_address.jpg

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also: Does anyone think that Santino will one day get a serious run in the WWE? I'm not saying he should -- his comedic character is pretty much perfect for where it is and adds something very valuable to WWE programming. But could a heel Santino going for glory work?

[James Steele]

I also think that the WWE would be able to pull off a British PPV a lot better in today's day and age. Back when the WWE did their British PPVs, they kind of felt like filler. Wade Barrett challenging for the WWE Championship at a British PPV could be kind of huge.

I'm talking about as one of the 12 main PPVs. The name and logo were cool.

[Keith]

But maybe they are good friends or something, and Angle specifically wants to work with D'Lo?

This is why guys go to TNA, actually (aside from an easier schedule). If Kurt was in WWE and went to Vince and was like "I'd like to work with D'lo Fucking Brown", Vince would go apeshit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Speaking of missed opportunities:

http://www.wwe.com/f/video/thumb/2012/03/20090929_ECW_regal_address.jpg

Fucking hell Regal is brilliant. It's a shame he only has himself to blame for fucking up his 2008 push, but the man has such worth as an on-air character. I really enjoyed that they sort of showed him hanging out with Sheamus towards the end of Sheamus' World Title run.

In fact, I'd be all for Sheamus & Regal winning the Tag Team Titles off Team Hell No. If just so that Sheamus could point out that he's taken every single championship Daniel Bryan has ever won off him. Also, Bryan and Regal interacting would be gold. Regal is apparently working the England tour the WWE has planned sometime after Mania. Would love to see him team with Sheamus for it, since it feels like Sheamus' immediate role in main event matters is over and he's doing some time working on the outskirts a bit.

[James Steele]

Also: Does anyone think that Santino will one day get a serious run in the WWE? I'm not saying he should -- his comedic character is pretty much perfect for where it is and adds something very valuable to WWE programming. But could a heel Santino going for glory work?

No. There is a reason why back in the day guys would fight tooth and nail to protect their character. There is a line you cross where there is no going back and fixing what "damage" is being done. Besides, Santino will have a job a hell of a lot longer and make more money doing what he's been doing than trying to make it as a serious singles wrestler. That boat sailed when "Santina" went on for more than a month.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm talking about as one of the 12 main PPVs. The name and logo were cool.

They could do that too. I'd be for it if there was a point to rebelling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

No. There is a reason why back in the day guys would fight tooth and nail to protect their character. There is a line you cross where there is no going back and fixing what "damage" is being done. Besides, Santino will have a job a hell of a lot longer and make more money doing what he's been doing than trying to make it as a serious singles wrestler. That boat sailed when "Santina" went on for more than a month.

As I said, I recognise that Santino's in a very valuable spot right now and I don't think it should change.

On the flip-side, do you think that a comedic push for Marella could ever work? Even if just for one episode. I'm imagining a heel WWE Champion CM Punk vs. Santino Marella established in an opening segment, with Marella training throughout the night and John Cena even giving Marella advice and that sort of thing.

Do you think that enough people would get on board with that to stay tuned?

[Tom Guycott]

Bully Ray will be Pres, it won't make sense but its gonna happen

TNA bullshit clarvoyance at its finest!

[Mr. Nerfect]

And no, Bully Ray being the President of Aces & Eights doesn't make much sense.

[Droford]

Reunites the dud..er..team 3d

[Keith]

Devon just said in an interview TPWW posted on the main page that he doesn't see Team 3D reuniting, that he would see it as taking a step back.

[owenbrown]

I think I am just about ready for Vinnie Mac to buy out TNA right about now. :n:

[James Steele]

It does make sense. Bully Ray got fucked over by Hogan, so he gets in good with his daughter and works his way into some power in TNA. The big question is where does Brooke Hogan fall into all this. Are they going to do it ala Stephanie/Triple H and they "take over" TNA from her father or will it be a deal where Bully Ray keeps finding ways to delay the divorce/annulment and Bully uses that to get what he wants. Or maybe TNA does something different entirely. Either way, I want the Hogans off my TV. At least it wasn't Eric Bischoff.

If we get Bully Ray vs Hogan or some match with divorce on the line, TNA is going to totally rip off the finish to Armageddon 99.

[James Steele]

FYI: That entire angle doesn't get enough respect for its brilliance.

It tied all the loose ends to the year's angles and launched a new era in WWF. Vince being the Higher Power, being behind Stephanie being abducted and everything, then Vince & Shane being dicks to Steph's boyfriends...Steph falls in love with The Game (can't blame her) and they do the whole wedding ploy just to get back at Vince. Brilliant.

[James Steele]

Also, it is a good match in its own right. Classic Vince brawl.

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[James Steele]

I want to see video of the finish. The report says they were throwing trash and shit. I still don't know why TNA booked a 60,000 seat stadium just to hold a PPV in a 1/8 of it.

[SammyG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxv_AiSbjW4

[owenbrown]

They really have officially become WCW lite

[Fignuts]

Nah, that was a pretty good swerve.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Batter quality vids of the main event:

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Actually watching it now. Weirdly intrigued to see how Jeff Vs Bubba works as a single match as a main event PPV.

Fuck the haters, I love Jeffs theme for some reason.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm a fan of this turn of events.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

God I hate this guy that isn't Taz or Tenay, whoever the fuck he is. I think Borash is better than any of WWE's ring announcers though.

Fuck me, I forget what great shape Bubba got himself in too. He's earned this push for sure.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

lol @ Hogans "No"'s. How did he have a career in Hollywood?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

TNA's core fans are fanatical, so good for them. Can't believe the trash being thrown in, it's mad.

[erickman]

i am glad bully is a heel again he sucked ass as a face, i wish devon did not do that interview about teem 3d being dead the day before though.

[CSL]

Nah, that was a pretty good swerve.

yah

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I enjoyed it. Kinda saw it coming ever since Devon was revealed though. That said, he's the right man for the job. No-one on that roster can cut a heel promo like Bully. Loved it when he was going "Let the bitch cry Devon".

Match was nothing to write home about. The sit-down powerbomb from the top rope was nice though.

[Black Widow]

This Turn helps a bit, but TNA should have been at this stage MONTHS ago though.

[Heisenberg]

I want to see video of the finish. The report says they were throwing trash and shit. I still don't know why TNA booked a 60,000 seat stadium just to hold a PPV in a 1/8 of it.

Was about to purchase tickets with my brother to go watch, but the seating chart made him think otherwise.

[Savio]

It does make sense.
Except for the fact that he has been trading blows with Aces & 8s for awhile.

[MoFo]

Except for the fact that he has been trading blows with Aces & 8s for awhile.


Yeahhh why did he help Jeff beat up Garrat Bischoff and Wes Brisco liek minutes before joining them.

[Skippord]

well based on that video the best thing Aces and Eights has done is make Ken Anderson look threatening

and also Luke Gallows and Mike Knox are the best

[Skippord]

also I can't wait till next year when TNA starts a stable based on "The Americans"

[Next Big Thing]

I'm hoping they implement Steele's idea for the Confederation of Control led by Ron Simmons. If you're going to have a racially diverse version of a SOA biker gang, may as well have a diverse array of Southern sympathizers complaining of rude New Yorkers and northern cold fronts ruining the weather down South.

[parkmania]

So, Bully is the Prez, huh? Kinda surprised that it wasn't Eric Bischoff. Although I guess he could still be revealed as the CEO...

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Plants started the trash throwing.

[Ultra Mantis]

Proxy Hulk Hogan turns on proxy WCW in proxy nWo swerve!

[James Steele]

Plants started the trash throwing.

I was thinking that. It wasn't all that much trash and the crowd wasn't exactly booing the shit out of them. It was dead silent when Bubba won FFS.

[James Steele]

Except for the fact that he has been trading blows with Aces & 8s for awhile.

Yeahhh why did he help Jeff beat up Garrat Bischoff and Wes Brisco liek minutes before joining them.

This was a giant inside job by Bully to get himself the World Heavyweight Championship. Garrett and Wes were in on it and what's an ass whopping if it means your boss becomes World Champion and even more powerful along with embarrassing everybody you've been feuding with for months on end. By that logic, every swerve ever is retarded because they were fighting with the dude leading up to the swerve.

I agree that this probably should have been done sooner, but I see why they waited for Lock Down to do it. Lock Down is one of their 3 main PPVs. Hopefully things pick up now in the feud. I am still worried TNA will do what they have done with every other mega stable they have had (they have a evil stable take over every year) and it turn into a clusterfuck where they keep doing swerves and things well after they need to. Aces & Eights is fine now and they can focus on building up the characters and lead into ending the feud at Slammiversary or BFG.

[James Steele]

Garrett Bischoff can fuck off though. Hate him.

[Savio]

By that logic, every swerve ever is retarded because they were fighting with the dude leading up to the swerve.
I've seen enough swerves done where they might have spoke against their rival but never attacked them. (Vince vs Kurt, Vince/Kurt ends up destroying Mick Foley. Rey/Spike vs Dudleys, Spike fakes injury beats up Rey)

[Ultra Mantis]

Didn't TNA do the same thing with that whole "THEY ARE COMING" angle where Abyss was murdering guys (Jeff Hardy?) with his barbed wire death stick then it turned out they were in cahoots.

[James Steele]

Didn't TNA do the same thing with that whole "THEY ARE COMING" angle where Abyss was murdering guys (Jeff Hardy?) with his barbed wire death stick then it turned out they were in cahoots.

Yes. TNA does the "stable takeover" angle every year.

02-03: SEX (Sports Entertainment Extreme)
04-06: Jarrett's different alliances
06-08: Angle Alliance vs Christian Coalition (Angle at one point in 07 held every title in TNA simultaneously)
08-10: Main Event Mafia vs The Front Line
10-12: Immortal (which absorbed Fourtune)
12-13: Aces & Eights
14-15: Zach Driver's Long Island Pussy Patrol

[James Steele]

I've seen enough swerve done where they might have spoke against their rival but never attacked them. (Vince vs Kurt, Vince/Kurt ends up destroying Mick Foley. Rey/Spike vs Dudleys, Spike fakes injury beats up Rey)

Vince/Austin swerve, Triple H & Chyna join the Corporation, Vince being the Higher Power (remember Undertaker breaking his legs), Vince screwing The Rock at WM2000, etc. All those make less sense than this swerve based on the past fights between the characters, but they worked great.

[Savio]

Vince/Austin swerve, Triple H & Chyna join the Corporation, Vince being the Higher Power (remember Undertaker breaking his legs), Vince screwing The Rock at WM2000, etc. All those make less sense than this swerve based on the past fights between the characters, but they worked great.


Agreed
I think they joined for the "money" if I remember correctly, money heals all wounds
Taker broke his legs like a year before that though, it wasn't that recent enough. I think the biggest flaw in that swerve is that Taker was basically just a pawn of Vince and Vince was messing with his family for pretty much no reason.
I remember this happened I forget why though.

[Cool King]

I don't watch TNA at all and when I found out that Bully Ray was revealed as the President of Aces & Eights, I initially thought "lol TNA".

But then I thought more about it and I thought that it was actually a good swerve, though with a name like Bully Ray, he couldn't have stayed face for long, so I guess there was some sort of chance that he would be turning heel soon.

I will admit that I do like Aces & Eights to some degree, even though I don't watch TNA. I don't know why I like them, but I do. I must like something about them as ever since the reveal of Devon, I've been checking up on the stable to see who the newest reveal was and then searching for videos of the latest reveals.

I just can't help but look at the stable and see two things. A TNA attempt at the nWo, and a stable made up from mostly WWE Alumni. :-\ I don't want to see those but like I said, I can't help it. I hope TNA don't do the whole nWo thing and constantly add guys to the stable as it's good the way it is.

One thing I don't get is D'Lo Brown being the Vice President. Why would he be Vice President when Bully Ray is President? Wouldn't it make more sense if Devon was Vice President after all Ray and Devon have been through together?

But anyway, I digress a bit. I think it's crazy that Bully Ray/Bubba Ray Dudley is now a World Champion. But I mean crazy in a good way. I am happy for the man and he looks so good since his last WWE appearance and TNA debut. He's certainly worked hard to get where he is now. Not forgetting Devon, he too looks good since his last WWE appearance and TNA debut. Both men have obviously worked hard to get to this point and clearly deserve it.

[Heisenberg]

As a longtime supporter of the Dudleys, I'm happy Bubba/Bully gets the chance to wear the strap.

I was hoping the Aces and 8s stable would be all former WWE members, but they shit the piss with adding Brisco and Bischoff.

[James Steele]

Bully Ray wouldn't have been ready for this push if he hadn't have had that World Title feud with Triple H in 2003.

[Cool King]

I actually enjoyed watching that.

[Heisenberg]

I need to catch up on 2003, only watch Wrestlemania that year and attended the Tribute To The Troops show, and missed the first half of 2004.

I don't know if I missed much, I've caught a little bit of the Steiner/HHH feud and some of Angle's footage. Didn't care for anything else.

That Troops show still haunts me, got to see Benoit and Eddie Guerrero wrestle each other.

[erickman]

As a longtime supporter of the Dudleys, I'm happy Bubba/Bully gets the chance to wear the strap.

I was hoping the Aces and 8s stable would be all former WWE members, but they shit the piss with adding Brisco and Bischoff.

i agree about bischoff but brisco looks like the new golden boy at tna after angle lossing to him last night

[The Ripper]

Bully Ray is the prez and is the world champion...whoopie freakin doo

[Heisenberg]

i agree about bischoff but brisco looks like the new golden boy at tna after angle lossing to him last night

Guess that would be a good reason to not have them all be former WWE, a new person rising up.

[Fox]

Agreed
I think they joined for the "money" if I remember correctly, money heals all wounds
Taker broke his legs like a year before that though, it wasn't that recent enough. I think the biggest flaw in that swerve is that Taker was basically just a pawn of Vince and Vince was messing with his family for pretty much no reason.
I remember this happened I forget why though.


4. If I recall correctly, this was actually one of the more ridiculous kayfabe reasons for turning heel. Triple H drugged and married Stephanie, putting him at odds against Vince McMahon. Then they swerved him and it was Stephanie and Triple H against Vince McMahon. Then they swerved everyone and revealed that it was all a part of a plan to establish Triple H as the future of the WWF and that both Vince and Shane supported the alliance between Triple H and Stephanie. Basically the idea was that the "corrupt" members of the McMahon family were always in cahoots with Triple H. I think this was just a big set-up for Stone Cold to return at Backlash and help Rock pick up the WWF Championship.

[MoFo]

This was a giant inside job by Bully to get himself the World Heavyweight Championship. Garrett and Wes were in on it and what's an ass whopping if it means your boss becomes World Champion and even more powerful along with embarrassing everybody you've been feuding with for months on end. By that logic, every swerve ever is retarded because they were fighting with the dude leading up to the swerve.


But really, like they couldn't of waited two more minutes to come out with the rest of the group and saved a beating?

IDK, doesnt make sense to me unless they are kicking those two out the group (which wouldn't be a bad idea)

[Logan]

Devon just said in an interview TPWW posted on the main page that he doesn't see Team 3D reuniting, that he would see it as taking a step back.

I'd guess Devon was talking in character, though it's very possible for both to be in A&8's but not team together (though I doubt anybodyd buy it, realistically).

[Curd]

Now that Brooke is "divorcing" Bully Ray, will she gain possession of the World Title through divorce court? Or does Bully have a prenup against that?

[James Steele]

4. If I recall correctly, this was actually one of the more ridiculous kayfabe reasons for turning heel. Triple H drugged and married Stephanie, putting him at odds against Vince McMahon. Then they swerved him and it was Stephanie and Triple H against Vince McMahon. Then they swerved everyone and revealed that it was all a part of a plan to establish Triple H as the future of the WWF and that both Vince and Shane supported the alliance between Triple H and Stephanie. Basically the idea was that the "corrupt" members of the McMahon family were always in cahoots with Triple H. I think this was just a big set-up for Stone Cold to return at Backlash and help Rock pick up the WWF Championship.

Vince was at odds with Triple H way before the marriage thing. Triple H and Steph married because of HHH's massive schlong and to get back at Vince and Shane for doing sick shit to her just to get back at Stone Cold. Fast Forward, and Triple H is the most dominant son of a bitch in the WWF. Vince McMahon comes back and can't believe how ungrateful The Rock is considering Vince "made" The Rock. Vince also wanted to bring his family back together and control his wrestling empire again under the star of the new millenium - Triple H. Hence, the swerve at WM2000 leading to Triple H being the first heel to win in the main event of WrestleMania.

[erickman]

Now that Brooke is "divorcing" Bully Ray, will she gain possession of the World Title through divorce court? Or does Bully have a prenup against that?

well since there are 2 belts the jeff hardy belt and the real one brooke can have the hardy belt.