Brock Lesnar vs Triple H - The Stip

[Jordan]

What stipulation would you like to see for this Wrestlemania match?

Some are reporting an "MMA" match, which to me would be ridiculous in WWE.
Shamrock's Lions Den Match was one thing, but to recognize one match on the show as "more real" than any other sounds like a big mistake to me.

I am hoping for and think the best choice would be a Hell in a Cell. Simple, and effective.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Sledgehammer match with Peter Gabriel performing live for Triple H's intro.

[Schlomey]

Sledgehammer match with Peter Gabriel performing live for Triple H's intro.

Great song. Horrible entrance music for anyone. Sledgehammer on a pole match?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

It would work perfectly if Trips dropped the serious, intense walk to the ring and opted for a more rhythmical dance in time with the music. Maybe even miming along with the words.

[Schlomey]

Doing that shovel dance.

[Heisenberg]

Doing that shovel dance.

Grandmaster Sexay perfected the shovel dance.

[Xero]

I'm guessing Lion's Den, but I could see them re-branding it. Don't think they'd do the Cell twice in a row, but a caged environment kind of makes sense to me for the brutality and the fact that Lesnar is in it.

If not Lion's Den or Cell, I could see the following:

I Quit or Submission
First Blood (Though Brock would have to be careful as hell, because he seems to have a tendancy to bust people open legit now.)
MMA-style rules, maybe in rounds but more legal wrestling tactics

Outside of a new match, those are really the only matches I could see them going with and it making sense to the characters.

If not Lion's Den, I want to see First Blood, just because it would actually mean a lot in this day and age. Almost unheard of. It'd be a true spectacle.

[MoFo]

I know it's wrestling and thus "not real", but HHH has never trained MMA and is kind of a huge pussy who hangs round with Justin Beiber and licks his bosses arse.

So yeah, any MMA type match should end in Brock squashing him in about 10 secs.

[Nicky Fives]

"Wife Swap" Match, Rena for Steph

[Savio]

"Judy Bagwell on a pole" match.

[crusnik]

A simple steel cage ladder match with the sledgehammer dangling in the middle.

[James Steele]

"I Quit" Match.

Brock Lesnar annhilates Triple H and Steph/Vince throw in the towel to stop the match.

[James Steele]

Even better would be an "I Quit" Cage Match. Just do an I Quit match inside the normal cage.

[steveweiser]

I quit match/submission match wouldn't work for me. As Brock is well noted a previous UFC champion, aswell as having broken Triple H arm twice, any kind of submission match should be over within seconds for Brock. Id like to see a lions den/octogon match but under wrestling rules, just like cage but in an actagon i suppose. Hell in a Cell, while it is a huge match doesn't seem to have any reasoning behind it.

Sayin all that it is WrestleMania so im sure whatever happens will be great no doubt.

[Rollermacka]

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Barbed Wire Electrified Ring Time Bomb Death Match. Time to pull out all the stops, this is Wrestlemainia damm it!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

MMA match or submission match. It's Brock's choice. Why wouldn't he choose the types of matches he has the greatest advantage over Triple H in? Hell in the Cell is Triple H's match even though Brock has won in one against the Undertaker. Hmmm maybe Hell in the Cell because of that.

Brock: I beat Taker in Hell in the Cell.

Triple H: :mad:

[Savio]

Barbed Wire Electrified Ring Time Bomb Death Match. Time to pull out all the stops, this is Wrestlemainia damm it!James Steele used to make some crazy Stip matches as well.

[Shadrick]

"I Quit" Match.

Brock Lesnar annhilates Triple H and Steph/Vince throw in the towel to stop the match.

Do a majestic hair match. Triple H wins unanimously.

[Emperor Smeat]

MMA or I Quit match.

A retirement match would have been huge except for the fact of the news weeks ago about Lesnar signing a new 1-year deal. Same for Triple H who probably will follow Vince when it comes to being the on-screen boss and have a few matches in the future.

[Black Widow]

weapon of their choice match, hunter would have a shovel and brock would have a farmers rake.

[#1-norm-fan]

I vote "I Quit" match.

[Flash Funk]

When Paul was talking about it, I got the feeling it was more of a Brock wins, Heyman becomes GM.

[Lock Jaw]

Falls Count Somewhere Matchup.

You can only make the pin at a certain location in or around the arena. You need to find clues to this location as you fight your opponent.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When Paul was talking about it, I got the feeling it was more of a Brock wins, Heyman becomes GM.

This is what I think they've been building up to all along. Except with the stakes perhaps even a bit higher. I've been thinking they might have Lesnar and Triple H fighting over ownership of the WWE itself. If Brock Lesnar wins, as he did at SummerSlam, Heyman takes over the WWE and gets to unleash what he considers to be his genius on all.

I definitely do think the match will have some sort of No DQ stip, but I think it will just be that. Actually, I hope it's just that. Give us a good old fashioned No Holds Barred Match. The only other match type I'd be interested in seeing between these two is an I Quit Match, but I don't feel it's just right for that yet. Maybe if they ever do Lesnar vs. Triple H III, which I can see them doing at Money in the Bank or something later in the year when they want to boost a buyrate of a PPV or something.

[whiteyford]

Falls Count Somewhere Matchup.

You can only make the pin at a certain location in or around the arena. You need to find clues to this location as you fight your opponent.

I can picture them in a scavenger hunt match now, would open the PPV and we'd get backstage segments of them finding clues and interacting with various HOFers and celebrities. Ron Simmons would get the customary 'DAMN' line of course.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

A Three Holds Barred match. Just three things can get you disqualified, the fun part? Nobody but the ref knows what those three things are.

[whiteyford]

I want to see the scavenger hunt match now, maybe in TNA I guess.

[Droford]

Falls Count Somewhere Matchup.

You can only make the pin at a certain location in or around the arena. You need to find clues to this location as you fight your opponent.

Falls count somewhere in the arena but the two wrestlers dont know where and they have to fight it out all over the arena to find out where. they are allowed to ask the ref if they are hot or cold.

Get your own ideas Locky. That was my idea.

Hhh vs lesnar should be under mma rules

Also my idea

[The Condor]

Retirement match :shifty:

[Lock Jaw]

Get your own ideas Locky. That was my idea.

My idea had clues. Screw your referee hot/cold business.

[Ruien]

First blood or a regular hardcore rules match.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

"I Quit" Match.

Brock Lesnar annhilates Triple H and Steph/Vince throw in the towel to stop the match.

Actually, flip that.

Have HHH do something evil to Lesnar in the end, and have Heyman throw in the towel.

Have Brock snap and destroy Heyman either after the match, or on Raw the next night. Have CM Punk save Heyman, and start a Punk vs Lesnar feud.

It would be "the shit."

[dingdongyo]

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Barbed Wire Electrified Ring Time Bomb Death Match. Time to pull out all the stops, this is Wrestlemainia damm it!

holy shit, did that siren get annoying. also, the headbutting was redic.

[Shisen Kopf]

Xpac on a pole match

[Classy and Gassy]

it will never happen but it would be funny if Brock demanded a standard one fall match

[#1-norm-fan]

Isn't Brock a farmer? Clearly if you think about it, a hog pen match is the smart move...

[Jordan]

I'm guessing Lion's Den, but I could see them re-branding it. Don't think they'd do the Cell twice in a row, but a caged environment kind of makes sense to me for the brutality and the fact that Lesnar is in it.

If not Lion's Den or Cell, I could see the following:

I Quit or Submission
First Blood (Though Brock would have to be careful as hell, because he seems to have a tendancy to bust people open legit now.)
MMA-style rules, maybe in rounds but more legal wrestling tactics

Outside of a new match, those are really the only matches I could see them going with and it making sense to the characters.

If not Lion's Den, I want to see First Blood, just because it would actually mean a lot in this day and age. Almost unheard of. It'd be a true spectacle.

I don't see Lions Den because it's SO SHAMROCK. BUT, First Blood, a match in the past I usually disliked (because the common nature of blading)... BUT NOW, it would be a great draw match and pretty cool to wait for someone to bleed.

[Jordan]

I gotta say though, I hate how in a first blood match, it's over as soon as there is blood. It doesn't seem like the right way to end a match to me. Never has.

[Droford]

Obviously has to be settled in the Punjabi Prison match with special guest referee the Great Khali

[Stickman]

Street fight makes te most sense

[Theo Dious]

MMA rules, but I doubt there will be a cage.

[Perry Saturn]

"Judy Bagwell on a pole" match.

I second this motion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Actually, flip that.

Have HHH do something evil to Lesnar in the end, and have Heyman throw in the towel.

Have Brock snap and destroy Heyman either after the match, or on Raw the next night. Have CM Punk save Heyman, and start a Punk vs Lesnar feud.

It would be "the shit."

With the Payback PPV being in Chicago, I feel that the WWE would be foolish not to do something big with Punk heading into that event. It could be Punk challenging for the WWE Title, but the WWE could also offer a CM Punk "dream match" for the show.

For the last couple of months I've been wondering if the WWE would ever consider running "Punk vs. Austin" as its own "big fight" PPV, instead of just using it on the card of one of their existing supershows. I imagined a scenario where Paul Heyman and CM Punk announced their own show for Chicago, where Joey Styles would do the commentary with Jim Ross and they would pick all the matches. Kind of like a modern, non-ECW themed approach to the "One Night Stand" concept. Punk vs. Austin being the main event for that would be very special. Brock Lesnar would also do a "special appearance" for Punk and Heyman on the show.

The reason I bring that up is because it seems like Payback could be a good PPV for to give Punk and Heyman that centre stage. Perhaps Punk can win the WWE Title between WrestleMania and Payback and then Heyman can assert Lesnar as a challenger for Punk, who knows something shady is going on and plays the cool "face by default" heading into the match with Lesnar, where no one gives him a chance.

[James Steele]

Steve Austin's return for one more match will not happen on any show other than WrestleMania.

[James Steele]

Nor should it.

[Bobo]

I don't think they'll go for an MMA rules match for the reason another user pointed out i.e. making everything else look inferior.

I think either First-Blood, Falls Count Anywhere, or an Iron-Man Match.

Personally I'd prefer an Iron-Man match as we haven't had one of those for some time. Or perhaps a "Falls Count Anywhere-Iron Man Match?"

Anything that reduces the amount of time available for Brodus Clay to appear on screen is fine by me.

[Bobo]

Or perhaps if Brock Lesnar wins then Paul Heyman becomes WWE Chairman and if Triple H wins Paul Heyman has to quit or joins the Kiss my Ass club or something.

[#1-norm-fan]

Can't be an Iron Man match. It would drain the crowd before the main event of WrestleMania and it just doesn't make sense for the situation.

I'm hoping it isn't first blood as I feel like it's just a cheap way to end a match.

I'm really hoping for an "I Quit" match. The finish would pretty much be guaranteed to be something intriguing and it would make sense if Brock gets to choose the stipulation seeing as how he's already made Triple H tap and now the next step is the ultimate humiliation of making him say "I quit" on the biggest stage of all.

[voncouch]

I figured they were just going to go for a Last Man Standing match. I Quit would be entertaining, but I can't imagine either one saying the words without killing their characters.

I didn't even think about an MMA style match. I really hope they don't. That would be really dumb.

[#1-norm-fan]

I figured they were just going to go for a Last Man Standing match. I Quit would be entertaining, but I can't imagine either one saying the words without killing their characters.

I can't imagine Brock saying it at all, obviously. I can imagine Triple H saying it to some extent. The guy's a businessman now and if he thinks it's gonna make Brock look even more amazing, he'd probably make himself look weak to do it. He doesn't have much more to look strong for as far as being a wrestler.

I'd imagine if they did go that route, it would be more likely to end with a towel getting thrown in or a knockout or some kind of trickery. There's gotta be a reason for a rematch as opposed to "Brock destroys him clean again." Maybe HBK throwing in the towel or something could lead to something else.

[James Steele]

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck, I don't like this stipulation.

[Tazz Dan]

Lesnar retires HHH...... And sets up the storyline for next year against Taker.

[Droford]

Brock Lesnar, Brand New COO of World Wrestling Entertainment

should make for great tv

[VSG]

I think he meant in-ring career, dumbass.

[The Naitch]

terrible stipulation

[The Condor]

Retirement match :shifty:

Nailed it

[PrettyCool]

"Mexican Burritos Match"

The ring is surrounded by tables of burritos. The wrestlers must eat the burritos as they fight. The first to throw up loses the match. Also both wear sombreros.

[Lock Jaw]

"Mexican Burritos Match"

The ring is surrounded by tables of burritos. The wrestlers must eat the burritos as they fight. The first to throw up loses the match. Also both wear sombreros.

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[NormanSmiley]

am i crazy/senile or didnt HHH retire last year after he lost at mania?? wasnt there a speech? tears? a walk to the back and a goodbye??

[#1-norm-fan]

You are crazy.

He did that after SummerSlam.

[NormanSmiley]

got my seasons mixed up

[James Steele]

He never said he was retiring though. He said that he felt like his career was over.

[James Steele]

AKA - Losing to Brock shattered him emotionally and physically which is why once he recovered he became obsessed with getting revenge on Brock and now he has his chance at WrestleMania.

Jesus, do any of you fuckers actually pay attention to the material you incessantly bitch about?

[#1-norm-fan]

Is looking back on Triple H's dramatic post SummerSlam speech going to make it more or less depressing for you when Brock Lesnar shits all over Triple H's career in a 30 minute squash at WrestleMania?

[Savio]

Lesnar will win in 18 seconds

[#1-norm-fan]

17

[James Steele]

You can all fuck off and die in the most slow and painful way possible.

[Theo Dious]

Ok... basically, everyone was sure HHH was going to win... so they throw in this stip to put in some doubt because it makes sense that HHH might retire. Very boring, lazy, and predictable.

[James Steele]

Shut the fuck up.

[James Steele]

When is the last time someone won a match when their career was on the line?

[#1-norm-fan]

Ric Flair won a ton before losing to HBK at Mania.

[Lock Jaw]

Ric Flair (before he lost).

[Lock Jaw]

Dammit Hashtag One WWF Fan!

[#1-norm-fan]

#StealingYourPosts

[Dark One]

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Come on Lock Jaw, you can do better than that.


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[James Steele]

Ric Flair doesn't count because we all knew he wasn't going to end his career jobbing to Carlito on SmackDown!

I'm talking a one-off PPV major match where their career is on the line.

[#1-norm-fan]

Cena vs Edge TLC 2006

[James Steele]

Cena vs Edge TLC 2006

That was a "Title vs Cena's Brand" match. If Cena lost, he went to SmackDown! not the retirement home. Try again, asshat. :kiss:

[#1-norm-fan]

Triple H vs Brock Lesnar WrestleMania XXIX

lol JK

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[XL]

I can see HHH winning only to retire "on his terms" the following night.

[Savio]

Ric Flair doesn't count because we all knew he wasn't going to end his career jobbing to Carlito on SmackDown!

I'm talking a one-off PPV major match where their career is on the line.
JBL vs Booker T for the WWE title at some PPV

[James Steele]

I can see HHH winning only to retire "on his terms" the following night.

Fuck that. Triple H needs to follow in the footsteps of his mentor...

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree with those that say the stipulation is terrible. I'm not bashing Triple H or Brock Lesnar -- I'm actually quite hyped for their match -- but the idea that Heyman and Lesnar essentially goad Triple H out of anonymity so that they can retire him is a bit silly. OK, so it was Triple H that attacked Brock first and wants another match and they're making him put it all on the line for it, but shouldn't the WWE be trying to sell that severity of a No Holds Barred Match with Brock Lesnar? Shouldn't Lesnar getting his hands on Triple H again be the end of Triple H due to the dangerous nature of Brock? Why the insurance policy on top of that?

Paul Heyman making Triple H and Vince McMahon put control of the WWE on the line would have made perfect sense. Heyman would get something that he has wanted for a long time -- to put Vince McMahon out of business. It would also add the drama of Triple H potentially destroying the father-in-law he was trying to protect with his guns blazing approach. Plus, the idea of "Everything Changes if We Win!" is enough to really sell WrestleMania as an event that any wrestling fan can't miss.

Yeah, Triple H's "career" as a full-time performer means a lot, but he isn't the full-time guy any more. Hell, his match with The Undertaker was billed as "End of an Era," and he lost that match.

And on a pro-Triple H note, I don't want his career to end. I want to see him get back in the ring and mix it up when the situation calls for it. Triple H vs. Dolph Ziggler, for example, could be great.

[James Steele]

I really think they missed out on not doing an "I Quit" Match. I think the idea of putting WWE on the line is silly. Maybe have Triple H put up his COO position on the line or something, but long-term it doesn't work. Remember when Vince was relieved of his duties and everybody bitched when he came back and started making decisions again? The "I Quit" match could have been just a brutal as this match this will be with the added drama. I think seeing Triple H screaming in pain as Stephanie and Vince finally can't take it anymore and throw in the towel is perfect. Hell, have Triple H's sister and parents sitting in the crowd and begging Stephanie/Vince. They've never been on WWE TV before. FFS, if you are going to put Brock over as an unstoppable god of destruction, then go all out. We've seen Triple H tap out already, the only logical place to go is to completely crush his and his family's souls.

[James Steele]

...or Triple H could win and make a full-time return. #boner

[Mr. Nerfect]

An I Quit Match would be really cool between the two, I'd have to admit. I'm not entirely sure that Triple H is losing this, though. I always had him pegged to beat Lesnar this go around, and I still think that Shawn Michaels could be involved in that. It'd address the issues between Lesnar and HBK from the SummerSlam build, and I know that my dreams of having HBK return for one night against Lesnar are unrealistic, but I'm sure the WWE would love to release another HBK shirt as well as a bit more DX merchandise.

Triple H could announce that he is retiring on RAW anyway, and then The Shield could crash his party and take him out with the Triple Powerbomb. Have Triple H then decide that these youngin's need a good sledgin'. John Cena, The Rock & Triple H vs. The Shield at Extreme Rules could be huge business. Just have The Shield attack John Cena and The Rock at some point during their "I respect you" sequences and you've got three of the biggest stars of all-time aligning to take on evil rookies.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why come out of retirement for a retirement match?

[James Steele]

Shut the fuck up. He never officially retired you bloody mong.