Captain America: The Winter Soldier

[Kalyx triaD]

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After the cataclysmic events in New York with The Avengers, Marvel’s Captain America: The Winter Soldier finds Steve Rogers – aka Captain America – living quietly in Washington, DC, and trying to adjust to the modern world. But when a S.H.I.E.L.D. colleague comes under attack, Steve becomes embroiled in a web of intrigue that threatens to put the world at risk. Joining forces with the Black Widow, Captain America struggles to expose the ever-widening conspiracy while fighting off professional assassins sent to silence him at every turn. When the full scope of the villainous plot is revealed, Captain America and the Black Widow enlist the help of a new ally, the Falcon. However, they soon find themselves up against an unexpected and formidable enemy – the Winter Soldier.

This is a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe's Phase 2 which includes Thor: The Dark World (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120888), Guardians of the Galaxy (http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=124521), Iron Man 3 (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=121126), Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D (TV) (http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=123810), and ultimately Avengers: Age of Ultron (http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=124518).

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[Kalyx triaD]

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Seems he'll be donning the Secret Avenger suit for the movie. Cool.

[Miotch]

picture no worky

[Kalyx triaD]

DAMMIT

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kane Knight]

What's with the Vulture getup?

[Lock Jaw]

Supposed to be The Falcon

[Kane Knight]

Is it bad I actually didn't notice the actor was black?

[Kalyx triaD]

Oddly progressive, maybe.

[Kane Knight]

I think it's just the lighting of the image. His face looks decidedly lighter than the sides of his head.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well he's being played by a light skinned guy.

[Kalyx triaD]

The Winter Soldier (alt view):

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Cool. Also:

We weren't going back to World War II. Cap cannot travel in time. So while Tony can go home to Malibu and Thor goes up to Asgard and Hulk can sort of ride the rails, Cap was stuck. So Cap does stay with S.H.I.E.L.D. because he has nowhere else to go. But he's not necessarily comfortable there. As you might imagine, somebody who’s spent 70 years in ice, frozen, wakes up and has to fight a bunch of aliens with a bunch of weirdos—he is trying to figure out what his life is. And just as he's given permission to let go of the past and to focus on the modern world, a ghost comes up. With the Greatest Generation in World World II, there's a tendency to reflect on that period and say, 'Things were black and white back then, and now it's hard to know who the bad guys are.' 'We wanted to play on that a little with Cap being uncomfortable with the way S.H.I.E.L.D., and in particular Nick Fury, operates. Fury certainly rides a line, sort of rides the shadows. He has, I think, lied to every character in every movie, though always seemingly for the good.

[Lock Jaw]

The "mouth mask" and goggles combo is giving me bad flashbacks to Harry Osborn's "Extreme" Goblin costume in Spidey 3.

[Kalyx triaD]

If anybody's extreme it's Winter Soldier.

[Shadow]

It's either that or we go domino mask.

[Kane Knight]

The "mouth mask" and goggles combo is giving me bad flashbacks to Harry Osborn's "Extreme" Goblin costume in Spidey 3.

At least he doesn't look like a Mountain Dew commercial.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.passfailstudios.com/comics/59.jpg

[Kane Knight]

Not surprised someone did that.

[Blitz]

The Winter Soldier revealed. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62667)

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[Kalyx triaD]

I rather without the jacket but cool so far.

[Shadow]

Yep pretty much what I thought of when they said Winter Soldier was in this.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seems the New Goblin Mask and jacket will leave at some point to show off his traditional look. Badass.

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[Rammsteinmad]

Wow, looks cool. Loved the first avenger, so looking forward to this.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Sick.

[Kalyx triaD]

The tracking dots on his arm makes me think there's gonna be more to his arm.

[The Destroyer]

Probably tart it up with CGI.

[Kalyx triaD]

Our favorite Secret Avenger:

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[McLegend]

I need some more star spangledness in my Captain America suit.

[XL]

His ears look silly. Did they look silly in First Avenger/Avengers?

[Kalyx triaD]

They weren't even visible before lol

[XL]

As I thought.

[Rammsteinmad]

I still think his costume from the first one was the best, but it's hard to judge by those two pictures. Still, looks cool to me.

[Lock Jaw]

Also, I think that one on the motorcycle is a stunt double? Does not look like him.

[Kalyx triaD]

Thought that too.

[McLegend]

That is a stunt double.

[McLegend]

And since word is they are going back to WWII you might see the suit from The First Avenger.

[Kalyx triaD]

If flashbacks mean that much to people.

[Fignuts]

I like the new suit. It fits the cloak and daggerish style of the winter soldier story.

Really pumped for this. The Winter Soldier arc is what got me back into comics hardcore, and it looks like so far, they are being true to the original story's roots and atmosphere.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seems the colors do run.

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[Fignuts]

Neat

[Lock Jaw]

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Featuring Hayley Atwell reprising her Captain America: The First Avenger role as Peggy Carter.

It's set after that movie, showing her investigating the Zodiac — what resemblance it'll have to the Zodiac of the comic books is unspecified — for the Strategic Scientific Reserve, a S.H.I.E.L.D. predecessor.

[Kalyx triaD]

YEEEEEEESSSSSS

[Kalyx triaD]

Most interesting concept art shows Cap - not in his SHIELD, Avengers, or WW2 suit - taking on Winter Soldier in what seems to be a large battle. Falcon can be seen in the background. It seems Cap will have a new version of his suit afterall, hopefully we get a better look soon.

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[Lock Jaw]

Some images from Agent Carter:

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[Kalyx triaD]

A piece of the film's score plays in the background of the official site. Scores are usually made after and even during finishing cuts of a film. With that in mind, this movie must be pretty dreaded. Hardly the hero themes of First Avenger. Sounds cool.

http://marvel.com/captainamerica#

[Kalyx triaD]

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Teaser trailer in two days.

[Sixx]

Wonder if it'll show Crossbones and/or Batrog.

[Kalyx triaD]

Any action shots of the Winter Soldier would be fine by me.

[Lock Jaw]

Teaser trailer for the teaser trailer

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[Lock Jaw]

Trailer

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[Sixx]

Trailer

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Wonder why is Crossbones on the same plane as Cap. At least the guy saying "No... no he wasn't" looks like Frank Grillo.

[Fignuts]

That Helicarrier sure isn't put together very well.

[Kalyx triaD]

This is hitting all the point I really wanted them to about SHIELD. Pairs really well with the show too.

[Adder]

Trailer looks good. :y:

[Fignuts]

Whole atmosphere of it just feels like brubakers original story. Can't wait.

[JimmyMess]

yeah, digging this!

[Kris P Lettus]

GSP is a horrible actor but I hope he does well in this.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kris P Lettus]

GSP

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[Kalyx triaD]

snip

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Lock Jaw]

Was just coming to post that. Pretty damn sweet.

[Rammsteinmad]

Awesome! Winter Soldier looks like a complete badass you do not wanna fuck with. Pumped for this one!

[Hanso Amore]

WOW that looks good

[dronepool]

Can't wait.

[Fignuts]

After seeing this trailer, I think I might actually be more pumped for this than I was for The Avengers.

[Fignuts]

Also, the music in that trailer is fucking rad, and I want it.

[Fignuts]

Even though that was really awesome, kinda concerned that trailer was too revealing. Kinda wish I hadn't watched it now, and seen all that stuff in the actual movie

[McLegend]

On that subject...

Robert Redford in some interview spoiled something about his character a couple months back so I have avoided anything Robert Redford related. So I am reading some website about this trailer, and the fucking site mentioned it, and screwed me over. It wasn't full blown spoiler, but I was still kind of mad.


Everything looks great so far.

[Fignuts]

I have my theories on Robert Redford's character.

[Kalyx triaD]

While I rather not discuss it, I have a feeling we're all thinking the same thing - be it reading about it or guessing it.

I don't consider it as wtf as the Mandarin thing, but I do wanna see how it plays out. Until then rock the spoiler tags until launch.

[Lock Jaw]

No idea what you guys are talking about, so I am glad.

[Kalyx triaD]

BTW, the stinger for this movie has been revealed.

Even under a spoiler tag, I won't be super clear, but it's said to make X-Men's rendition of Pietro and Wanda look goofy by comparison. They are not fucking around with their design.

[JimmyMess]

that trailer made my parts tingle.

[Jura]

See, this is how you do costumes, especially the Winter Soldier's get-up. Fuck you Bane.

[JimmyMess]

Bane?

[Jura]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zt0yV0Ovk7g/Tzv5s17i_2I/AAAAAAAAC6o/ACqQh2R-V9E/s1600/bane-batman-rehearse-dark-knight-rises2.jpg#Bane%20from%20%27The%20Dark%20Knight%20Rises%201280x720

You've got a tarantula on your face mate.

[JimmyMess]

that costume was awesome, you crazy, foo.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah Bane looked sick. Love it.

[Lock Jaw]

I bet S.H.I.E.L.D. in this movie will feel and be ten times cooler than S.H.I.E.L.D. on the tv show.

[Kalyx triaD]

A bigger budget does that.

But the show taught us a lot more about SHIELD. We know about the two main training centers (Ops and Tech). We know they've been tracking 'supers' for decades. We know they have a thing for vertical take off vehicles. So on and so forth.

[Blitz]

So. regarding the character of the Winter Soldier...

They're really not trying at all to keep his identity a secret, I guess? He's even listed as Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier on IMDB.

I guess it's not a huge deal, just seems a bit odd to me.

[loopydate]

They showed his face in the trailer, didn't they? I think the secret's out at this point.

[Kalyx triaD]

They released a hi-res shot of his bare face officially on the Marvel website.

Winter Soldier is Bucky Barnes. Moving on.

And I dig that they're more protective of how things play out than the villain identity of one of the biggest comic arcs of modern Marvel.

[Fignuts]

The spy thriller feel of the books is captured really well, going off these trailers. Still nothing of Crossbones though. Wonder if he's just a really minor villain who was given the name simply as a nod.

[Kris P Lettus]

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[Shadow]

...did Batroc the Leaper just get...KICK IN ZE FACE!?

[Krimzon7]

First of all...GSP.

Second of all, Liu Kang is suing for gimmick infringement.

[DaveBrawl]

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[Kalyx triaD]

METAL GEAR MARVEL

[Lock Jaw]

I think I will refrain from watching that one. 4 minutes is too much for me.

[Fignuts]

Seriously. I'll wait for the movie.

[Sixx]

Any word on how Rumlow transforms into Crossbones?

I can see him in the trailer as one of the SHIELD agents, but no shots of him as a villain or anything.

[Miotch]

Jesus christ the filthy fucking things I would do to Scarlett.

[Kalyx triaD]

Been done already.

[The Destroyer]

I think I will refrain from watching that one. 4 minutes is too much for me.

It's more like 2 and a bit minutes. There's a trailer at the end.

[Lock Jaw]

Meh. I think I'm done with watching trailers/reading news/looking at pics from this movie. Just gonna wait to be surprised by everything else.

[Krimzon7]

ScarJo..I fucking love you so...

She is amazing. I want more Black Widow, woud love to see her movie

[Kalyx triaD]

Sebastian Stan (Bucky/Winter Soldier) is in fact signed for 9 MCU movies, counting this one. Chris Evans has three more appearances (Avengers 2, 3, and Cap 3 - going up against Batman/Superman!). Fans of comic history may well piece future events together.

Anyway, Cap 2 premiered on the red carpet. Be on spoiler alert from here on out, because some people have kindly tweeted from screenings that some heavy MCU altering shit goes down. Ye be warned.

[Rammsteinmad]

Saw this film this morning! As always with Marvel movies, I loved it! Chris Evans is fantastic as Steve Rogers. Not gonna go too much into stuff until others have seen it, but all-in-all I loved it. As usual, there's two scenes at the end, one during the credits and one at the end. Dr. Strange was name-dropped as well. Guess he's "part of" the universe now, setting things up for his movie during Phase 3. :cool:

Post credit scene spoilers:

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch!!! SIIIIIIICK!!!!!!!

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Going to see it tomorrow. Heard very good things so far. Rewatched the first Captain America last night and its still my least favourite of the Avengers films. Not too much to do with the storytelling, I'm just not into war-based films in general and Steve Rogers is comfortably the biggest winnet out of all the major marvel characters. Hopefully be good though.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Saw it just before. Was good. Much better than the first. Still much prefer the fantasy side of the marvel universe like Thor than the government conspiracy side of things presented here tho. Really good addition to the bunch.

[dronepool]

Got tickets for 8:25 tomorrow.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I never stayed to see the end-credit scenes as I really needed the loo and had to get to the next showing of Veronica Mars. Somebody (in spoilers) tell me what happens in the two end scenes.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Baron Von Strucker is seen scheming as part of Hydra. Shows that they have Loki's staff in their possession. Then says the world is full of "miracles" which I guess is their way around saying "mutants", and says it may soon be time to use the twins or something. Then Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are shown in cells, Quicksilver is pacing round the cell anxiously and obviously at a super speed, Scarlet Witch is levitating some stuff then makes it explode.

Second scene was Bucky at the same museum Cap was at earlier in the film and looking at his memorial

[Ermaximus]

EDIT: NM, Rumlow is going to become Crossbones, but Crossbones has also been a Thunderbolt which makes me believe Zemo as the villain in Cap 3 is possible.

[dronepool]

I loved this, I'd say easily in the top 3 Marvel Studio movies.

[Kalyx triaD]

Seeing this Sunday, going dark until then. Spoiler tags will not be needed from tomorrow on.

[Krimzon7]

Saw this movie Last Night...I love the day before 8PM showings. You don't HAVE to see it in 3D, but I did. This movie taught me one very important thing.

Captain America movies NEEDS supporting characters/heroes. This movie is a fucking home run. This was the Captain America movie we wanted to see.

This movie also accomplished one very important feat: It made watching the first one important without making it necessary.

[Ermaximus]

Odds Agent 13 kills Cap in the third movie?

[JimmyMess]

Odds Agent 13 kills Cap in the third movie?

She's Sharon Carter though, Cap's love interest?

[Ermaximus]

She's Sharon Carter though, Cap's love interest?

She also shot and "killed" him in Civil War.

[The Destroyer]

Going to get off my arse and go see it tomorrow.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Will you also allow spoilers as of tomorrow?

[JimmyMess]

She also shot and "killed" him in Civil War.

that's true. Do you think we will see that storyline in the films though? Seems a bit big.

[Reavant]

This movie changed my life for the better

[dronepool]

I can't stop thinking about this movie- watching this weeks episode of AOS just now isn't helping.

1) Winter Solider

2) Avengers

3) Iron Man 1

I think that's my top 3 Marvel as of now. This movie seems like it's more fun to rewatch plus the better more developed plot helps.

[Krimzon7]

I cant believe how much I loved a captain america movie

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I still need to see the Avengers film. I should get on to that.

[Lock Jaw]

Just saw this movie. Absolutely fantastic. May be my new favorite Marvel film. Wonder what the hell is going to happen on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. though....

[alvarado52]

Easily the best MCU film to date, that includes Avengers.

[Boondock Saint]

Loved it

[Asmo]

Excellent movie. Very packed, thoroughly entertaining, with probably the most realistic action choreography. This becomes the movie that changes the MCU, in so many ways. The amount of foreshadowing in the script and the visuals will make you want to watch it over and over again - there is a lot alluded to.

The Winter Soldier was fantastic.

Albeit, the theater i saw this in CUT the second post credit scene. Is it up somewhere? I know what happens, but seeing is believing. Any help?

[Tom Guycott]

Everyone's gaga over the PS-es. I was more geeked at the Pulp Fiction reference.

[Rammsteinmad]

Albeit, the theater i saw this in CUT the second post credit scene. Is it up somewhere? I know what happens, but seeing is believing. Any help?

To be honest, you're really not missing anything.

[screech]

Saw this yesterday. Absolutely wonderful film. Probably my new favorite of the Marvel movies.

[Asmo]

To be honest, you're really not missing anything.

And why would you say so?

[alvarado52]

It doesnt really set up anything Asmo. Its just a logical conclusion.

[Lock Jaw]

Marvel seems to have shifted that way... in that they will put a "significant" mid-credit scene, and then a bit of a "nice, but not essential" post-credit scene. Avengers, Thor: TDK, and now Winter Soldier have all gone that route. I think Iron Man 3 only had the one after credit scene, unless I am completely forgetting it.

[Kalyx triaD]

This was awesome, and a game changer. Not using Spoiler tags here, we're passed that.

- The Winter Soldier is fucking terrifying. Like... the Terminator. Sort of like how Bane in DKR appears and somebody will die; that's Winter. Only in his case shit blows up as well. Not an once of fatigue or misstep or anything. You are dead. His arm was a great effect and counter-point to Cap's shield. And I love how he was kept mostly off key, not eating too much of the story. Every time he appeared things got awesome.

- This movie is indeed a game changer, though really it does this by killing off a "character" - SHIELD. SHIELD was the glue between all the Phase 1 films, and it seems it has outlived its usefulness. What's also wild is how SHIELD is essentially HYDRA. It seems the deal with Zola back in The First Avenger really came back to bite them in the ass. It wasn't the usual double-agent that had to be rooted out, or even a shadow cabinet. HYDRA was SHIELD. There was no way to simply disconnect or amputate it, not without disassembling SHIELD itself. The Agents of SHIELD show just became required viewing. It picked up seriously after the train episode, but now it's on a fucking roller coaster of possibilities.

- Of course Senator Stern was HYDRA.

- Sharon Carter introduced. Chris Evans has two movies left (Avengers 2, Cap 3). Winter Soldier has nine more appearances. I'm just saying guys...

- Maria Hill getting a job at Stark Industries is something I wanna see play out.

- THE TWINS. It seems the Baron is using Loki's staff, which we can all safely assume was the Mind Gem all along, to use them as their own super-friends. This was probably inspired by Fury's Avengers Initiative - HYDRA wants super people, too. They have, as far as we saw, three successful ones (Bucky, Wanda, Pietro). Could they create/find more by Avengers 2? SHIELD has/had Blonsky in cryo-jail as revealed a few weeks ago on the show. Have you any idea how fucked up that is to know now?!

- The whole preemptive strike thing is eerie in that we're pretty headed in that very direction. I don't think Cap 2 was trying that hard to make any political points, but you gotta imagine where the line is when we really did drone strike people on 'maybe'. That's just an aside, though.

- I have this sinking feeling that old apartment with the hidden key in that flashback will be important later.

- Wonder how Stark's gonna feel that his father was murdered by HYDRA/SHIELD. And on that, Stark now has to watch his tech yet again being used for evil. I'm sure he'll be miffed about that.

[Shadow]

SHIELD itself won't be going away mind. HYDRA was just using it as a cover. At least this head of HYDRA was. All you have to do is root out the bad agents, the ones that are HYDRA through and through, set up Coulson as Director with his team as security council and there you go. The rest of HYDRA though, with access to a lot of shit, that's gonna be the main issue. And with Strucker making the fatal mistake of letting Cap take a few of his own bases down and Zola still out there but not under anyone's control? By Cap 3 we might be seeing the fall of HYDRA entirely just in time for a Red Skull to come back and use what's left of the organization to better serve Thanos.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's no way to know who's HYDRA through and through. Fury's best friend was head of HYDRA!

And Coulson's team... I guess we can rule out Skye, Ward, and Coulson himself. FitzSimmons and especially May don't have as fleshed out pasts. Then there's Garret and his boy.

Victoria Hand is either a high ranking HYDRA operative or just a major bitch.

[Ermaximus]

Baron Zemo is the only way to go in Cap 3. They have to. Then we can get a Thunderbolts franchise!

[Asmo]

It doesnt really set up anything Asmo. Its just a logical conclusion.

Yeah, i get that. Just want to see how it's played out. Single shot? Bucky's reaction? Is the hair cut? Is the Cap's mannequin still without a costume?

The whole Internet knew about it. And i was expecting to see it. I didn't. Hence, still want to watch it.

[Ermaximus]

All you see is the Bucky memorial and Bucky is wearing a hat and civilian clothes. He looks at it and he looks like he begins to remember his past.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or he's still mind wiped and he's just learning about himself.

[Reavant]

Anyone notice the Pulp Fiction reference on Fury's tomb stone???

"The path of the righteous man..."

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah that was cool.

[Krimzon7]

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[Krimzon7]

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[Krimzon7]

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[Krimzon7]

You know, I love Tom Brady. I respect the Patriots...but I could totally believe that these two are members

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[Kalyx triaD]

You can literally any real world politician and it will be utterly realistic.

[XL]

Was it just me or does the guy that played Bucky look a lot like Aaron Paul? Kept expecting Winter Soldier to end a sentence with "BITCH!"

[Sixx]

Was it just me or does the guy that played Bucky look a lot like Aaron Paul? Kept expecting Winter Soldier to end a sentence with "BITCH!"

I tihnk the only thing they have in common when it comes to looks is how their faces seem too small for their heads.

[Lock Jaw]

This movie was so good. Glad we get to see immediate fallout from it without having to wait over a year until the next (Earth based) Marvel movie.

[XL]

Also, fucking Charles Widmore is on the World Security Council. Of course he is.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Lol Alan Dale is on every council or is a board member in everything in the world.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

Really really hope that Black Widow gets a spin-off from this movie. With her past now out in the open, it would be cool if we get a movie exploring the ramifications of that... explore her origins some and have her tie up some loose ends from her old life that have resurfaced.

[Kalyx triaD]

Once she films her Ultron scenes and does her mother thing, I'm betting she'll have her movie or at least a movie where she has top billing but features other heroes.

[JimmyMess]

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[Lock Jaw]

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[XL]

Really really hope that Black Widow gets a spin-off from this movie. With her past now out in the open, it would be cool if we get a movie exploring the ramifications of that... explore her origins some and have her tie up some loose ends from her old life that have resurfaced.

I was thinking the same thing.

[XL]

That poster would make an incredible Limited Edition DVD/BR cover.

[Ermaximus]

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Where can I get this movie poster Lock Jaw?

[Fignuts]

Baron Zemo is the only way to go in Cap 3. They have to. Then we can get a Thunderbolts franchise!

Actually with the way things are shaping up, and with the contract of Evans running out, I'd say it's much more likely we get The Death of Captain America arc on screen, along with a returning red skull, and maybe his daughter Sin.

I wouldn't hold your breath on the Thunderbolts. Even if they did, it would probably be the modern, government agents version, rather than Zemo and the Masters of Evil.

[Fignuts]

Wondering if Zola ties into Ultron at all.

[Fignuts]

Victoria Hand is either a high ranking HYDRA operative or just a major bitch.


In the comics she's just a major bitch, that misguidedly follows Norman Osborn for his less insane ideas on how to make the world a better place.

Afterwards, Cap trusts her enough to put her with the New Avengers.

That said, it's entirely possible she is misguidedly following Hydra in this case, as their goal in the movies is to make the world better. STill can't see it though. Hydra's evil methods are far less subtle than Norman's and I can't see the character going along with it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm assuming so, along with JARVIS and Vision.

[ClockShot]

Just got back. Hell of a movie.

Nice touch sneaking in Baron Strucker at the mid-credits. I'm to assume those were the Maximoff kids in those cells?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yep, now it seems they are Hydra's own Avengers Initiative.

[Ermaximus]

Actually with the way things are shaping up, and with the contract of Evans running out, I'd say it's much more likely we get The Death of Captain America arc on screen, along with a returning red skull, and maybe his daughter Sin.

I wouldn't hold your breath on the Thunderbolts. Even if they did, it would probably be the modern, government agents version, rather than Zemo and the Masters of Evil.

So you think they'd go with Punisher, Elektra, Red Hulk, etc?

[Sixx]

I don't see them going with the Death of Captain America storyline, whatever the contracts. Either Evans signs a new contract or I don't fucking know. There is just no way they will let Sebastian Stan take over the shield.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah they totally would. They're not above recasting, and this isn't a stunt thing - it's source accurate. That little sequence where Bucky used Cap's shield against him and struck a pose can't be ignored considering the comic history. Evan's contract is nearing, and he's spoke about doing something else after being a superhero even before the MCU. Stan has a wild number of movies ahead of him. So unless there's a Winter Soldier film series coming, he's almost certainly the second Captain America.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, they are totally above recasting.

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[alvarado52]

They'll recast. Its inevitable really, particularly in RDJ's case.

Eventually these support characters will get pushed to the front while the "big 3" of Cap, Thor, and Iron Man take a hiatus.

[Kalyx triaD]

I meant they were are not above recasting. Typo thing, sorry.

[Hanso Amore]

This is a decade plus "film universe".

They will keep introducing new characters and phase out others as well as actors. Even a guy like Iron Man gets stale after 5 movies so he will move to the back and new characters will fill out the 2 movies a year for the next 10 years.

I have no doubt that Antman was selected as Paul Rudd to fill the fun comedy niche that RDJ fills. as he winds down Antman will get a few movies and will then hand off to some new line.

[Fignuts]

So you think they'd go with Punisher, Elektra, Red Hulk, etc?

There have been several rosters since the government T-bolts started, so they have lots of options.

Songbird has been a constant, even more so than Zemo, so that's the only character I'd say for sure.

[Lock Jaw]

They should make a buddy-cop/hero movie with War Machine and Falcon.

[Kalyx triaD]

You need opposing personalities for something like that. Falcon and Patriot may get along too well for comedic friction. What you want is something like Falcon and Fandall.

[JimmyMess]

who should play Dr. Strange? I'm going off topic... sort of.

[Kalyx triaD]

Marvel seems hellbent on Johnny Depp and I'm kinda for that.

[Fignuts]

I dunno about that. If he was picked, he's a good enough actor where I would take a wait and see approach, but he wouldn't be my first pick.

[Skippord]

I'll suggest Sam Rockwell as I do for any movie role that ever comes up

[The Destroyer]

Sam Rockwell's already had his shot in the MCU, sadly.

[Lock Jaw]

Way to put spoilers in the thread title for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

[JimmyMess]

I dunno about that. If he was picked, he's a good enough actor where I would take a wait and see approach, but he wouldn't be my first pick.

Sounds like what people were thinking for RDJ as Iron Man. That worked out well.

I dig Depp as Strange.

[Tom Guycott]

I'll suggest Sam Rockwell as I do for any movie role that ever comes up

Sam Rockwell's already had his shot in the MCU, sadly.

Besides, you'd have to deal with his apparent contractual obligation to dance in every movie he's in. Although it worked with Hammer being a "wannabe" Stark, it might not work elsewhere.

[Kalyx triaD]

Sam Rockwell isn't dead, and him appearing in a One Shot pretty much means he's still in the game.

Way to put spoilers in the thread title for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

Yeah, nobody seen Hydra having to do with a Captain America movie. And tagging Agents' thread with the slogan gives nothing away.

I kinda doubt anybody here is in the dark in any case, we've been pretty open about it since launch in both threads.

In any case; noted.

[Skippord]

Sam Rockwell's already had his shot in the MCU, sadly.
They should make an alternate Avengers where every character is Sam Rockwell

[mitch_h]

Finally got around to watching this, I really liked it even though I'm not really a comic book fan, in fact I was feeling Superhero burnout. They did a good job of establishing lots of characters and avoiding bloat. I liked how they incorporated some post Watergate paranoia into the plot but also managed to avoid post Dark Knight brooding and darkness. I also prefer well choreographed fight scenes and practical effects over CGI spectacle. Cool movie, 8/10 I say.