Can a little guy be a heel in a big man/small man feud?

[Curtis]

Now I decided its time to take a step back from cartoons and start a serious wrestling discussion.My question for you today is over here.Now we all know some great feuds have been a small little guy as a face against a huge guy who plays an evil heel. This is pretty much a standard formula. BUT. Can it be reversed? Can you see the little guy being the heel and being the one "with the advantage" and the big guy being the face?Now this brings me to a cool big man/little man match I saw on YouTube. Here it is,<iframe height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MJLu9_VOnTk" frameBorder="0" width="560" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>In this match, D-Man is the face and Bull Dozer is the heel in the classic formula where D-Man is the little guy who is brave and goes against the evil big man, Bull Dozer. But in reality, if you watch KBW, you would see that D-Man is a bit of a "dick" while Bull Dozer is kind of a regular guy. So in a way. I think that it would be better if KBW booked D-Man as the heel and Bull Dozer as the face. But then the little guy/big guy dynamic would be ruined.Whats your thoughts???????????????????

[Anybody Thrilla]

No chance I'm watching that video, but I don't think fat guys should be on trampolines.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol I love how this goes from a serious rasslin discussion to a gem

[#1-norm-fan]

Last time I saw tits like that on a trampoline they were introduced by Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel.

[Rammsteinmad]

Thought this might have been a genuine discussion. Hope Curtis and all his family get cancer.

[Bad News Gertner]

This is what I view all indy promotion are

[Rasslin' Fan 29]

I dunno about the guys in your vid, but last year CM Punk played the great scrawny chicken shit heel while Ryback was way over as this beast of a babyface.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Ignoring the bad attempt at promoting backyard trampoline bs, I actually like the topic.

I'd point out the Daniel Bryan vs. Big Show feud.

Also, the Jimmy Jacobs vs BJ Whitmer feud in ROH was seriously amazing, but they took it a a level bigger. Not only was Jimmy Jacobs technically the heel, and the smaller guy, but in the long term scope of the feud he was "right." He wasn't really the villain per se. He was the love struck kid being manipulated by a woman, and his best friend (Whitmer) got sick of it and turned on him.

[Shisen Kopf]

Dude Curtis, post an ERAG match, the greatest match in the history of artistic combat

[Bad News Gertner]

Who can forget the classic big man vs little man match between Clox and Clox's wife.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Ignoring the bad attempt at promoting backyard trampoline bs, I actually like the topic.

I'd point out the Daniel Bryan vs. Big Show feud.

Also, the Jimmy Jacobs vs BJ Whitmer feud in ROH was seriously amazing, but they took it a a level bigger. Not only was Jimmy Jacobs technically the heel, and the smaller guy, but in the long term scope of the feud he was "right." He wasn't really the villain per se. He was the love struck kid being manipulated by a woman, and his best friend (Whitmer) got sick of it and turned on him.

Ohhh yeah, Daniel Bryan v. Big Show was hot shit.

"YOU'RE JUST A BASTARD! LOOK WHAT YOU DID TO POOR AJ!" :lol:

[Shisen Kopf]

Who can forget the classic big man vs little man match between Clox and Clox's wife.

Lol what the hell happened to him? Did he get eaten?

[Bad News Gertner]

Jericho was doing it during his feud with Goldberg in WCW.

[Savio]

Xpac vs Kane in late 1999

[#1-norm-fan]

while Ryback was way over as this beast of a babyface.

Those were the days. Fucking WWE.

[whiteyford]

Wanna say Spike Dudley did something along those lines.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Crash Holly or something

[Bad News Gertner]

Heath Slater and RYBACK

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This ain't shit to OCW.

[owenbrown]

another outstanding edition of the Inbred Wrestling Federation

[owenbrown]

am I the only one expecting the trampoline to collapse?

[Shisen Kopf]

Now I decided its time to take a step back from cartoons and start a serious wrestling discussion.My question for you today is over here.Now we all know some great feuds have been a small little guy as a face against a huge guy who plays an evil heel. This is pretty much a standard formula. BUT. Can it be reversed? Can you see the little guy being the heel and being the one "with the advantage" and the big guy being the face?Now this brings me to a cool big man/little man match I saw on YouTube. Here it is,<iframe height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MJLu9_VOnTk" frameBorder="0" width="560" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>In this match, D-Man is the face and Bull Dozer is the heel in the classic formula where D-Man is the little guy who is brave and goes against the evil big man, Bull Dozer. But in reality, if you watch KBW, you would see that D-Man is a bit of a "dick" while Bull Dozer is kind of a regular guy. So in a way. I think that it would be better if KBW booked D-Man as the heel and Bull Dozer as the face. But then the little guy/big guy dynamic would be ruined.Whats your thoughts???????????????????

I think The Grim Sweeper and Fluffy would beat those two.

[Shisen Kopf]

This ain't shit to OCW.

RIP OCW, they haven't updated in a long time. They are in central Florida so it's safe to say a sinkhole ate them all.

[owenbrown]

This was just as bad as one of those stupid ERAG matches

[Shisen Kopf]

Dude, never speak ill of the ERAG match. It was ground breaking.

[Skippord]

Last time I saw tits like that on a trampoline they were introduced by Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel.
Did you not watch the Doug Stanhope/Joe Rogan version?

[Savio]

did anyone?

[Shisen Kopf]

Bulldozer breaks 4th wall too much. Very unprofessional

[Kane Knight]

Bulldozer breaks 4th wall too much. Very unprofessional

I think you mean 'awesome and cutting edge.'

[#1-norm-fan]

Did you not watch the Doug Stanhope/Joe Rogan version?

I did. I thought that might be too obscure of a reference though.

[Destor]

I think the match is one of the hardest to work, especially if you have a big guy who doesnt think he should bump...ever... >_>

[Skippord]

I did. I thought that might be too obscure of a reference though.
Good call, probably.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Doesn't really fit the exact question posed in this thread, but I fucking loved when Spike Dudley turned über-heel and became The Boss. :D

[JimmyMess]

I read the title thinking of a real response and then just.... well fuck you dildo face.



But also..... X-Pac/Kane

[Savio]

Jinder/Khali

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jinder was interesting for about a minute when he was slapping Khali and such.

[Tom Guycott]

Jinder was interesting for about a minute when he was slapping Khali and such.

Also when he was wearing suits and not wearing a turban.

It was a bit refreshing to have him as a non-stereotypical, ethnically cartoony heel and more as a disingenuous, spoiled rich boy with money/family connections to keep Khali's rickety knees in his pocket to play reluctant enforcer. Then they went overboard on the 180 because too many "rich kids" (ADR, Mahal, DiBiase) is just so damned confusing!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn't really like the explanation given as to why Jinder Mahal could control Khali so easily. I'd have liked it more if the WWE had maybe given them a back story where they trained together and Mahal had been the only guy to be able to take Khali down -- the only guy in India who could actually beat him -- his mentor's favourite student, that sort of thing. Giving Mahal a big Bollywood-style entrance instead of slow music could have allowed the guy to have come off as cocky and confident as opposed to being an "evil foreign heel," which I think is really losing its weight in today's day and age.

[Shisen Kopf]

Is Bulldozer still a heel or did he turn face?

[Heyman]

X-Pac vs. Kane was the perfect example of small man/big man - heel/face.

[Razzamajazz]

that cloth suitcase looks like it really hurts

[Theo Dious]

This seems to have occurred to nobody, but in any feud Andre ever had as a face, the small man was the heel.

[Bad News Gertner]

Kevin Sullivan and Dusty or Sullivan and Hogan

[scatterbrain28]

Kevin Steen vs any vanilla midget in ROH.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wanna say Spike Dudley did something along those lines.

Yeah, that's just what I came in here to say, too. Somewhere around 2004-2005 SmackDown! Spike turned on his "BADASS" mode and made the Dudleys do everything he told them and dubbed himself "The Boss". Springsteen & Vince eat your hearts out!

[Shisen Kopf]

This is a top 10 post in the history of the TPWW. When I become KOTF this summer i'm gonna appoint Curtis as my Royal Jester.

[road doggy dogg]

Shisen with the RKO outta nowhere!

[whiteyford]

When you go retro for the nostalgia pop will it be DIAMOND CUTTER outta nowhere?

[road doggy dogg]

ACE CRUSHER outta nowhere!

[Lock Jaw]

I'm surprised that Noid didn't make a Noid post about THE Brian Kendrick

[Lock Jaw]

I think if I was a rassler, I'd literally name my finish "OUTTA NOWHERE!!"

[WinterDecay]

Wasnt Kevin Nash a face when he was in a program with The Filthy Animals in WCW.... and that worked so well the company ...

In answer to the question ... Yes he can be the heel ... but no one will give a sh*t.

[Shadrick]

Last time I saw tits like that on a trampoline they were introduced by Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel.

underrated post

[Curd]

Yes. I heard Natty Neidhard heeled it up while captaining her Special Olympics kids against Big Show's team. "C'mon and beat Big Slob for me!"
http://www.tpww.net/2014/05/wwe-stars-attend-special-olympics-game-earlier-today/

Yeah, Big Show did the Big Job to get over Total Divas. Or if that was a shoot event, then Big Show wasn't ready to coach or just got the worst Special Olympics kids on his team out of the bunch.

[Cool King]

The most recent example of the smaller guy being the Heel and the bigger guy being the Face that I can think of, is Daniel Bryan and Big Show back in 2012.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

ACID DROP OUT OF NOWHERE!

LSD was a pretty good heel when he was the Cruiserweight champion of the world. He could have pulled it off if he was in a feud with the gimmick.

He just bullied The Dudley Boyz in the gimmick though.

[Mooияakeя™]

If the small guy has cred, i.e. has emotional grip over bigger guy, is a class tech wrestler (so posses the actual in ring skill that would be believable to outwit power etc), or has the backing of some evil shits (gang backing).

Then yeah.

[voncouch]

http://www.memegene.net/media/created/uxxika.jpg

[Anybody Thrilla]

Did anyone say anything about the Cody Rhodes/Big Show Wrestlemania program?

[Shisen Kopf]

Have these guys signed with CHW yet? This is one of the greatest threads ever here at the tpww

[Shisen Kopf]

Alex Bliss vs that turkey gobbling bully Nia Jax

[Destor]

Not if you want money

[Bad News Gertner]

Kevin Sullivan and Hulk Hogan

[Swiss Ultimate]

Shane and Everybody

[Destor]

Kevin Sullivan and Hulk Hogan

Not if you want money

[Evil Vito]

Thought this might have been a genuine discussion. Hope Curtis and all his family get cancer.

LOL

[Mr. Nerfect]

I would really love to see Babyface Roman Reigns vs. Heel Sami Zayn. Zayn is so good at playing the jerk, I bet he can get the fans behind Roman. And imagine how good Zayn will look getting that chinlock in on a man the size of Reigns.