Call of Duty: Ghosts

[alvarado52]

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[Kane Knight]

Can you play as the dog

[alvarado52]

you can play as Dog

[alvarado52]

Can you play as the dog

according to this in-game screen cap, yes!

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[Kane Knight]

DAY ONE BUY!

[Miotch]

I predict Fangel will buy the Xbox One and Ghosts on release day. Two weeks later when he has decided he hates the game he will sell both it and the system to gamestop. Then, after all his friends are playing it at christmas time he will go and repurchase the game, maybe by trading in some other game like GTA 5 that he has beaten and is no longer interested in. One week later he will once again realize that he doesn't like Ghosts, and he really misses GTA 5, so he will one last time return to game stop to sell the game and equipment for his original copy of GTA 5.

He will also keep us apprised of all of this.

[Kane Knight]

Don't forget the page of questions about whether it will be on the XBox 1 anyway.

[Curtis]

Seeing as how I still play Black Ops 2 daily I am BALLS IN deep into this one.

I have like, I dunno, 90 hours of Black Ops 2 and only 3 hours of Battlefield 3 which is a sucky boring game for campers.

GHOSTS cant get here fast enough

[Kane Knight]

If you're playing Black Ops 2 daily, why can't you wait for the new CoD?

[Kane Knight]

It's confirmed: The dog is a playable character.

DAY ONE BUY.

[El Fangel]

I predict Fangel will buy the Xbox One and Ghosts on release day. Two weeks later when he has decided he hates the game he will sell both it and the system to gamestop. Then, after all his friends are playing it at christmas time he will go and repurchase the game, maybe by trading in some other game like GTA 5 that he has beaten and is no longer interested in. One week later he will once again realize that he doesn't like Ghosts, and he really misses GTA 5, so he will one last time return to game stop to sell the game and equipment for his original copy of GTA 5.

He will also keep us apprised of all of this.

Your prediction has warrant, however falls flat. I do not plan right now to get an Xbox One or PS4.

Or buy this for that matter. Now before I get the obvious "Why even bother with the thread" comment, I wantedto see what you guys thought so far/what they are hyping.

[Fignuts]

As a Megaman fan, I am perfectly content to play "the same old shit" as long as it's still fun.

[Kane Knight]

Fangerl doesn't know this is also coming out for current gen systems. Think of all the rage montages he won't be featured in this year. :'(

[El Fangel]

Fangerl doesn't know this is also coming out for current gen systems. Think of all the rage montages he won't be featured in this year. :'(

You know that message you sent me the other night, you know the one where after months of ignoring you, you still sent? Do you remember what I said about the reason no one likes you? it's because you say this sort of shit about the person who is the closest you have ever had to a friend here and expect them to still like you.

Now if you happen to have the ability to not be a total cunt for as long as it takes you to finish reading this post (I know it will be difficult but I think you have it in you.) you may notice that the next gen comment was in response to Miotch.

I am aware it is available for current gen (or will be.) So I wouldn't have to purchase a new console to play it. I've moved on to PC gaming anywhere and there isn't a chance I'd ever play CoD on PC.

I also find it incredibly ammusing how you bashed this game saying only drunken fratboys and kids play this but have gone quiet with such comments nowadays.

[Fignuts]

After months of ignoring him, you just responded to one of his barbs, so he'll probably just keep on doing it.

You need to adapt like most of us have, and ignore the worthless posts like that one.

[Kane Knight]

If he had that kind of self-control, he wouldn't be the disc-snapping, RAM-frying sociopathic ball of stupidity that became so famous on TPWW.

[Fignuts]

Curious to know why he seemingly considers you a friend when you are always bluntly calling him stupid and whatnot.

[Kane Knight]

He hasn't considered me a friend since his shitbag turn of opportunity a while back. Or if he still does, he's the kind of friend nobody needs.

Actually, I kind of buy that last one. Well, I could see it being true. You may be on to something, Fignuts.

[El Fangel]

After months of ignoring him, you just responded to one of his barbs, so he'll probably just keep on doing it.

You need to adapt like most of us have, and ignore the worthless posts like that one.

Kunt Knight decided to message me after months of literally zero interaction

To belittle me further and state why I am an asshole for "siding" with Swiss. So, KK, why don't you do what i said in the message and list one person here who would call you a friend

Actually, not even that. Someone that even enjoys your presence here.

[Blitz]

Post the messages, though.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Yeah post the messages. I'm always interested in Kane Knight's hidden grovelling and campaigns of hate.

[Miotch]

Yes. Post them.

[El Fangel]

I wouldn't normally do this, because I have respect for most people. However, once you read my response (I have omitted something for his privacy reasons, I am not THAT much of a douchebag.)

I like this place and try to get along with most, so I offered to make amends. So I don't mind outing him as an asshole. Maybe he will sit back and realize who the true sociopath is.

I know this is probably pointless, but I just wanted to poin out that you attacked me for a completely unfair and unwinnable situation.

My entire beef with Swiss was that he brought up information I did not wish to have brought up in a personal attack. To reveal such information is to do exactly what I didn't want to do in the first place, and yet you attacked me for not wanting to do just that.

For someone so obsessed with privacy and secrecy, it sure was shitty of you to do that to someone you were even then claiming to be a friend.

Thanks for putting me in a lose-lose scenario and then bitching me out for it, buddy. Were you always this much of an asshole?

Yeah, this probably falls on deaf ears, as I still suspect you're a sociopath. But maybe you have some level of decency in you, and you can learn to modify your behaviour in the future. Of course, you'll probably only learn if someone puts you in that situation.

[El Fangel]

My response.

I wasn't going to reply because I don't really care either how you feel about the situation but I do want to address something you said, so I guess you'll get a response though I doubt it will be one that you won't lose your shit over.

You want to talk about lose-lose huh? Alright, I have two people who at the time I would have considered friends. Now lo and behold, something happened between them that caused a very intense exchange and instead of picking a side, I sought an explanation and clarification from each of you.


Whether or not what Swiss told me was the truth, He DID take the time to explain and clarify his side of the story. Something I requested from you, but well...we know how that went.


Now despite all that I considered you a friend, but the continual insults, bashing and placing of a sociopathic label on me really makes it hard to like you.


You seem to have this issue with everyone on TPWW, where you expect people to like you but continue to be one of the biggest assholes I have ever encountered. You were like this seven years ago when I joined and you continue to this day.


Name one person on TPWW who enjoys your presence and would undoubtingly call you a friend if I were to message them and ask what they consider your relationship as.


You have managed to come across as the biggest prick on there time and again.


Now if you doubt that I ever considered you a friend, who offered to send money to help out when you apartment burnt down? How many people?

Now if you wish to treat me as a fellow poster who hasn't slighted you in any way, then perhaps this impasse can be dropped but if you feel like you need to continue being the person I described then don't bother responding.

He didn't.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The guy lives in a shitty, awful fantasy land. I remember him going berzerk at DttS at the time and there was no personal info whatsoever brought up. The man who manages to both be the world's biggest dickhole and also an enormous drama-queen with unfathomable depths of self-pity. He's well into his 30s, also. It's funny all the abuse he has given Rhiannon since she was a child and he's twice her age and doing exactly the same thing he seemingly hates her for.

Miserable bastard.

[alvarado52]

Lol Internet friends.

[El Fangel]

I don't even want to be an asshole in this instance, but it seems necessary. Christ, he chased me around for three months after negging random posts, calling me a liar and a sociopath.

As for Rhiannon, I have sent PM's to her. I have apologized to her for being such a fucking to her in the past.

That's the thing I find a bit ironic, he brings up things from years ago. I have since matured, it took a bit longer than most people but I like to think I am not the dickhole I was six years ago.

This guy however has been like this since I joined and I suspect long before that.

[El Fangel]

Lol Internet friends.

Requiem is going to be heartbroken.

[alvarado52]

J. K. Lolling.


There are people who I do consider friends on the board such as Kalyx, Miotch, and Roxer...but none of them are emotionally unstable (I think)

[El Fangel]

Poor examples then. :p

[Kane Knight]

J. K. Lolling.


There are people who I do consider friends on the board such as Kalyx, Miotch, and Roxer...but none of them are emotionally unstable (I think)

The fact that you are and you mentioned Kal with a straight face is kind of lulworthy.

[Kane Knight]

Also like the fact that Fangerl is basically taking the opposite of Fignuts' advice.

[RoXer]

Roxer...but none of them are emotionally unstable (I think)

:|

[Fignuts]

You guys know what's a fun game? Call of Duty.

[Kane Knight]

You guys know what's a fun game? Call of Duty.

Never heard of it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

The guy lives in a shitty, awful fantasy land. I remember him going berzerk at DttS at the time and there was no personal info whatsoever brought up. The man who manages to both be the world's biggest dickhole and also an enormous drama-queen with unfathomable depths of self-pity. He's well into his 30s, also. It's funny all the abuse he has given Rhiannon since she was a child and he's twice her age and doing exactly the same thing he seemingly hates her for.

Miserable bastard.

I still don't think he realizes that he re-wrote the entire situation in his head to make me into a monster. He kept comparing me being critical of his comment as what the psycho kid "TNARick" attempted to do which...made no sense then and even less in retrospect. KK got so emotional over that whole thing it was pretty insane.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Dear Swiss,

I hope posturing in front of TPWW makes you feel better. You seem to need it.

However, I will point out that you were the one who thought a couple of cheap shots were worth more than our friendship. Further, you were the one who started blocking communications with me, yet you seem bothered that I don't want to talk to you. I literally only finished what you started.

But whatever. This is more about the off-chance that you were sincere in trying to get in touch with me. I'm not sure why persistently being a dick to me would make me want to talk to you, but that seems to be what passes for "logic" in your mind. It doesn't work. It's why finally did cut that last communication point, which seems to have led to your latest round of thread bumping and posturing.

And I'm sure this will also prompt thread bumping and posturing, and I hope it brings you whatever you seem to need. This is closure for me. I'm done with you. You can message me all you want, try to talk to me, bitch about me, but I'm over it. Being a dick was more important than being my friend, so continue with it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Backstory: one of my kids sent out some messages via xbox live like "XYBSYBTN"

Also I went on a neg-rep campaign in which I lowered KK's ranking a few people and tried to remove his third star so I'm guessing that's what he was talking about.

[El Fangel]

I'm not sure why persistently being a dick to me would make me want to talk to you.

W'ell lookee here gentlemne, I believes we has ourselves one of dem hipocrites.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm so happy I don't have any serious drama with anybody here, particularly after taking friendships outside of TPWW. In fact they always improve outside of here. Once upon a time Fignuts wanted me banned, now I can't wait to lobby up with him again in SFxT.

You fuckers need to grow up. Bad enough you're in a thread dedicated to a dog.

[Fignuts]

Don't think I've ever even feuded with anyone.

Also, in my defense, the crisis was pretty terrible.

[Kalyx triaD]

Shut up.

[alvarado52]

fuck off

[Fignuts]

I sucked a guy's cock for money

[Kane Knight]

You fuckers need to grow up.

Growing up is overrated.

[Kalyx triaD]

Agreed.

[Kane Knight]

So you go back to comic books, and I'll go back to baiting sociopaths on the internet.

[Kalyx triaD]

I can't remember the last time I read a comic other than Yale's Little League. It's been movies and shows exclusively. And the occasional videogame on the off-chance it isn't complete ass.

[Kane Knight]

I said go back to comic books, bitch!

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm.

[Kane Knight]

Do it or I will cut you.

[Kalyx triaD]

Your katana didn't burn up? That's craftsmanship.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

So you go back to comic books, and I'll go back to baiting sociopaths on the internet.

Don't use words you don't understand. Or at least try to understand words before you start using them.

[El Fangel]

Exactly, more psychopath than sociopath. Amirite?

[Kane Knight]

Your katana didn't burn up? That's craftsmanship.

Fire can't melt steel.

[Kalyx triaD]

Really?

[Kane Knight]

That's what the 9-11 truthers say, and they have science on their side.

[Kalyx triaD]

I guess.

[Miotch]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Highlights from today's live stream courtesy of Destructoid:

* Character customization is in, including playable female soldiers. There are some 20,000 possible combinations which are both cosmetic in nature and affect gameplay.
* Maps have dynamic events and environmental destruction.
* There are seven new game modes, thirty new weapons, the new Marksman Rifle class, 20 new killstreaks, and a new co-op mode.
* The create-a-soldier system is similar to Treyarch's Pick Ten. You'll have a budget to spend, and perks have varying number values associated with them.
* You can create a squad of up to ten soldiers, each with a unique loadout, appearance, and ability to prestige.
* New animations and movement systems: there's contextual leaning, a mantling system that let's you jump over obstacles, and a knee slide to go from sprinting to crouch or prone.
* Modes: Cranked, where a kill makes you faster but also starts a 30-second timer in which you must earn another kill; Search and Rescue, where your team can revive you by picking up your tag or enemies can deny the revive by doing the same; and Squads, in which your custom squad competes against AI or other players.
* Infinity Ward has plans for eSports following Treyarch's work on Black Ops II but only mentioned the CoD Championship and Ghosts' inclusion in the 2014 MLG Pro Circuit.
* The studio is reducing the number of air-based killstreaks; for instance, the UAV is now a ground-based device instead of a drone in the air. No more death streaks, either.
* The Season Pass is back with another four map packs and the Team Leader digital pack, including an exclusive multiplayer character. You can transfer your stats, prestige level, and profile across console generations, and DLC from the pass carries over too.
http://www.destructoid.com/call-of-duty-ghosts-won-t-have-in-game-streaming-feature-260035.phtml


Ghosts will eliminate deathstreaks, but introduce 20 new killstreaks, along with 30 new weapons, new weapon class “Marksman Rifles”—which can alternate between sniper and assault rifles—and add new movement options for players, such as knee-slides, contextual leans, and mantling.
The dog from single player mode is one of the special killstreaks for multiplayer.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/infinity-ward-blows-the-lid-off-call-of-duty-ghosts-multiplayer/


In-game video streaming and Theater mode from Black Ops II was dropped for Ghosts.
http://www.destructoid.com/call-of-duty-ghosts-won-t-have-in-game-streaming-feature-260035.phtml


Hardened and Prestige Collectors Editions were also revealed.
The “Hardened Edition” will come with a steelbook case, a paracord strap, a digital version of the Ghosts soundtrack, the Free Fall multiplayer map, and digital in-game character content (player patch, card). The Hardened Edition will also include the Call of Duty: Ghosts season pass, which nets players all four planned DLC add-ons.

Another collectors’ edition, called the “Prestige Edition,” will include all the content that comes with the Hardened Edition as well as a 1080p tactical camera and camera case.
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http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/rumor-call-of-duty-ghosts-getting-hardened-prestige-collectors-editions/

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Some new COD:Ghosts MP mode called Blitz. In it, you must <s>hunt ghosts like prolific TPWW poster Blitz</s> attack and defend 2 key points. There's also going to be an XBone hardware bundle with COD: Ghosts packed in with some "exclusive content" for your "experience" and they announced dedicated servers.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://img.game.co.uk/images/content/SpecialEditions/360Prestige.jpg

Only £179.99 for current gen console. Bargain!

[Blitz]

I must assume I'm the only one who got this.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've got it, not played yet.

[LoDownM]

Forgot this was even coming out this week, that's how little I care about CoD now. Think I'll start treating it like sports games, getting it every other year.

[Blitz]

Honestly, it's not very good. Played for about an hour and I'm already thinking about trading it in for Assassin's Creed IV.

Multiplayer feels strange. Can't put my finger on why. Just something off. Not a fan of any of the maps at this point. They feel too chaotic, and it seems like they're more vertically focused than horizontally. Found myself getting shelled from all angles a lot.

And the spawns are fucking garbage. I mean real straight up garbage. I have never had an issue with spawns in previous CODs, even when it seemed like everyone else did. But this is a joke. Spawning right in front of enemies with my back turned to them. Come on.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Not a fan either so far. The game was giving me a headache. It feels like there's no heft to the game and the mini-map is bad so far. There's still definite latency but they've taken away the ability to see your connection strength.

Maybe I'll get used to it. Not a fan of being spawn killed repeatedly and the same old "shot before I come round the corner" routine as in Black Ops 2.

[ClockShot]

Grabbed mine for PS4 today. It's the common game all my buddies agreed upon to get.

Hmph. Reviews aren't that great right now. Hopefully it'll get better in a week or so.

[Fignuts]

Doesn't sound good. Battlefield 4 it is then.

[El Fangel]

Kalyx did say that. And if Blitz and ECG are complaining it must be bad...

Is there any redeeming quality?

[Kalyx triaD]

Riley.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

From what I've read, only the 360 and Wii U versions have a relatively smooth framerate. The PS4 and XBone versions are jerky as fuck unless there's a day 1 patch and even the PC version is dropping frames no matter how powerful your machine is.

Maybe trying to rush 6 versions out wasn't the smartest idea ever.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm quite pleased that people are starting to see through this franchise's bullshit. Many of the issues I'm reading are things I've pointed out for years since MW2 and it seems to have taken hold after a long while. Hopefully this forces Activision to rethink how they release the game, but it seems the current team(s) on it are not up to task. Better off making Treyarch the sole developer and rock a 2yr release cycle.

[Fignuts]

People have always seen through the franchise bullshit. They just ignored it because they still had a lot of fun with the games. That's how it was with me anyway. I tried MW2 and 3, and I didn't like them, so I didn't buy them. I liked the BLOPS games, so I did. Simple.

[RP]

I'm waiting for Fangel's review of everyone else's reviews before I get this.

[Fignuts]

Fangel isn't getting it this year.


Until he does.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

IT'S OK GUYS, THEY'RE PATCHING THE PC VERSION. THIS SHOULD HELP THE FRAMERATE.

n a forthcoming game update, NVIDIA GPU-accelerated animal fur, and NVIDIA GPU-accelerated PhysX effects.
NVIDIA GPU-accelerated animal fur will add high-quality, realistic, dynamically-reacting fur to Riley, NPC wolves, and multiplayer attack dogs.

OK, animal fur is a higher priority than a smooth framerate. My bad.

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[Heisenberg]

I got a picture of me on my turret from 2003! My weapon of choices: The .50 Cal and M240B

Kind of jealous I didn't have a dog and stuff

[The Rogerer]

By the sounds of it, they developed with the new consoles in mind so it's a struggle just to get the basic game up and running. Then this is downported to the current console generation so you're maybe getting a game that lacks a lot of the progress they made.

[Heisenberg]

I am waiting on this one, I blew through Black Ops 2 too fast. I was going to turn heel on CoD and go BF4, but I'm having too much fun with WWE2k14

[Curtis]

This game looks too much like BO2...so I think I will skip it. Same thing with Battlefield 4, its Battlefield 3 with better graphics...the only thing I like in BF4 is commander mode so I might get it for that cuz I would be a great commander

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I played a bit more today, still not sold. I'm not a fan of all the urban maps, the colour schemes. I think it's the sound effects that are bothering me the most about the gameplay, however. A big issue with the urban maps is all the debris and architecture, it's too easy to get stuck on stuff like a fucking moron, or be running against something you can't see. This was always a big issue for me in Battlefield 3 too, why should your guy would get stuck running against stuff maybe knee-high. He should just step over it, or fucking trip, not run on the spot like a twat. But climbing up ladders, fucking hell. I don't understand why they make it possible to slide sideways off a ladder. In what way is this a thing that should happen? Every other game on the planet a ladder becomes something you attach to, not this slidey surface you can rotate all around. Trying to get up a ladder is a definite skill in this game of cluttered, urban multi-level maps.

The set-up is confusing, I don't know what the fuck this squad members thing is supposed to be about, what does it do? It's just different avatars? What is the point? The whole thing is very cluttered.


I'd probably have been happy to keep playing Black Ops 2 if not for the awful connection issues. It was excellent in regards to gameplay and the set-up, this isn't grabbing me right now and the game latency is still a massive factor, you just can't see the quality of the connection.

[Kane Knight]

I'm quite pleased that people are starting to see through this franchise's bullshit. Many of the issues I'm reading are things I've pointed out for years since MW2 and it seems to have taken hold after a long while. Hopefully this forces Activision to rethink how they release the game, but it seems the current team(s) on it are not up to task. Better off making Treyarch the sole developer and rock a 2yr release cycle.

While I'd personally enjoy that, isn't IW still the more popular developer amongst the fans? I've seen so many people who refuse to play a Treyarch game, but few who won't touch an IW game. With the possible exception of this one, because it's apparently selling a lot worse than prior games.

I'm not sure I'm going to buy another round of the series, but if I do, I'm waiting for the next Black Ops/whatever Treyarch calls it.

Although the recent fire sale is tempting.

[Fignuts]

I don't know about that a lot of people liked the BLOPS games more than MW 3, myself included.

The IW games haven't been as good since those two head developers left.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah people are starting to feel the effects of the new IW since they launched two of the more subpar CoD games. Brand name can only take you so far, and unlike Madden riding on the brand name they have stiff competition against them - even from Treyarch themselves on the same series. IW's just a name that stuck at this point.

[El Fangel]

I'm quite pleased that people are starting to see through this franchise's bullshit. Many of the issues I'm reading are things I've pointed out for years since MW2 and it seems to have taken hold after a long while. Hopefully this forces Activision to rethink how they release the game, but it seems the current team(s) on it are not up to task. Better off making Treyarch the sole developer and rock a 2yr release cycle.

Agree completely except i think the game peaked at BlOps, this annual moneygrab is really showing its true colors by the look of it.

I'm waiting for Fangel's review of everyone else's reviews before I get this.

I only came to see what people thought, they think it is as we say teh suxxorz

Fangel isn't getting it this year.


Until he does.

I had little interest prior, less now. Been considering Blops 2 again, might now if people continue instead of hoping on this.

Yeah people are starting to feel the effects of the new IW since they launched two of the more subpar CoD games. Brand name can only take you so far, and unlike Madden riding on the brand name they have stiff competition against them - even from Treyarch themselves on the same series. IW's just a name that stuck at this point.

[Blitz]

ECG is dead on. I think it's the maps. They're terrible. Nearly all urban and full of debris. Enemies are incredibly hard to make, made worse by the fact that there's a lot of difference outfits. But none of them seem to have any flow. All just square or semi square areas with a shit ton of buildings. So many firing angles, you need to look in 8 directions at once or die. On long range maps, if you aren't sniping, you are fucked.

Squad system is dumb and useless. Gotta use tokens to open more than 3 loadout slots, fuck off. There's so many satcoms (the new UAV) that you pretty much have to have stealth perks and silencers. Hating this so far.

[alvarado52]

That sounds like the same issues I had with MW3s maps...big cluster fuck of gray city areas. May pass this year and give me fps time to Battlefield 4.

[Kalyx triaD]

Same guys made it, so we see they learned very little.

I could use another squad mate, and you'd be interest to see how things work in Battlefield. You seem like a jet guy.

[alvarado52]

H
M
UP!



.....next time im online.

[Fignuts]

Maybe we can get a squad that actually talks. The one time i played BF3 with kalyx was the only time i ever heard anyone talk in that game. Even then he barely said anything.

If i get 4, you better speak up kalyx. Game has so much potential for coordinating different strategies with squadmates.

[Kalyx triaD]

I speak often, must have been a quiet time for me.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Battlefield 3 wasn't always a satisfying experience for me. It often took a long time to find a decent game with teams not camping for kills in Rush or Conquest, plus the ability to pay for advantages were pretty grim. I felt the air battling was pretty superfluous as well, it took way, way too long to level fighter jets unless you obsessively used them. I used a lot of tanks and I still hadn't got very far with them either by the time I stopped playing (and I had played it a lot). When it was a good game, it was fantastic, but Call of Duty provides a more immediate experience, something that you can pick up and play. I'll probably stick with Ghosts just because I know I'll be able to get a full team to play it, plus the maps will likely get better with experience, they normally do. Battlefield 4 looks like fun but the games used for demos and ads rarely resemble what you get in reality.

[The Rogerer]

The set-up is confusing, I don't know what the fuck this squad members thing is supposed to be about, what does it do? It's just different avatars? What is the point? The whole thing is very cluttered.I've heard the notion is that you level up several characters and then you can take them into a battle with you. Seems a strange alternative to prestiging to level up several times, in order to build up weapons on a team of AI characters who will no doubt be rubbish anyway. I don't know who this mode is for.

[Kalyx triaD]

You can not pay for advantages in Battlefield 3.

Battlefield 4's Premium stuff pushes it, though. A lot.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You could pay to unlock higher level stuff in Battlefield 3.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually the weapons were not objectively better than others, they mostly had different handling. They really excel when you use add-ons that fit your playstyle, none of them could be unlocked with money. All add-ons had were a grind. The Short-Cut packs, as I discussed in a blog I wrote last year, were handled fairly well. It wasn't pay-to-win at all.

They faltered with the vehicle kit DLC, which was very much pay to win, since those items made vehicles very powerful. But even then it wasn't game breaking, since anti-vehicle weapons unlocked week-1 worked well against them.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Maybe. I sort of lost interest in it when paying for stuff arrived, it always puts me off somewhat. I wasn't happy with Tiger Woods this year letting people pay for level-up points, since it took so long to actually level up, so EA annoy me with this sort of thing.

The time to kill/die in Ghosts is extremely quick, it's like Hardcore mode from other games. I don't really like it, it's exacerbating the map issues. There's too many angles and doorways, so while feasibly you should be able to run from people to find cover, it's impossible with the speed of death. It's making the game very stop-start for me, it's jarring to constantly just drop dead before even realising I am being shot at. I hope they patch this to make players a little more resistant to bullets. Might be more realistic or whatever but it's not as fun. Battlefield has a pretty quick time to kill/die speed but at least it was offset by aiming not being straightforward from range.

[Fignuts]

ECG is absolutely right about one thing though. COD is pick up and play, and that's a big reason for its success. Anyone can pick up a controller and do OK, while battlefield definitely has a much larger learning curve. It's a big sell for the casual market, which is a driving force in the industry.

There's also the fact that battlefield on 360 and PS3 isn't how the game is originally designed to play. They didn't scale down the maps at all, despite losing over half the player count. It's still fun, but it does involve a lot of running around not finding anyone, where COD takes seconds to find an encounter.

[The Rogerer]

You can not pay for advantages in Battlefield 3.

Battlefield 4's Premium stuff pushes it, though. A lot.You can buy a dedicated server and kick whoever you feel like. That happened a lot.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

ECG is absolutely right about one thing though. COD is pick up and play, and that's a big reason for its success. Anyone can pick up a controller and do OK, while battlefield definitely has a much larger learning curve. It's a big sell for the casual market, which is a driving force in the industry.

There's also the fact that battlefield on 360 and PS3 isn't how the game is originally designed to play. They didn't scale down the maps at all, despite losing over half the player count. It's still fun, but it does involve a lot of running around not finding anyone, where COD takes seconds to find an encounter.

The maps on this one are very big indeed. Playing it today a bit, I realised it works better to stay close as a team and defend an area. I think this possible may actually be quite good when I get on with friends again.

[Kalyx triaD]

You can buy a dedicated server and kick whoever you feel like. That happened a lot.

That is tantamount to booting somebody from your lobby, which is in 98% of all multiplayer games. Hardly an advantage, and if you actually rented a server hell yeah you should be able to kick who you want.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Activision, early sales for Ghosts are lower than last year's Black Ops 2 although they expect the next-gen versions of the game to make up a chunk of the current difference.
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=216602


Infinity Ward also confirms they still don't bother developing a CoD game for Nintendo systems when its their turn and instead let Treyarch handle those versions.
Mark Rubin: It's six. Two current-gens, two next-gens, and PC, plus the Wii U, which we didn't do.

E: Who created that?

Mark Rubin: Treyarch. Treyarch has a Wii U team specifically for just doing Wii U. That's all they do. They only do the Wii U games for every title. It was a Wii team that turned into a Wii U team. But still, yeah, five platforms.
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=216577

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've changed my mind guys, this is a pretty good game. I'm still not sure about the loadout set up and all that, but I'm now sold on the maps and the gameplay. I was trying to play like in Black Ops 2, which rewarded lightweight loadouts and running-gunning because the hit detection and matchmaking were fucking awful.

This game is more like MW2 and it has taken me time to get back to that style of play, more circumspect, waiting to go round corners, trying to keep to areas where your back and at least one side is covered. It rewards seeing the enemy first and accuracy. The hit detection appears faultless so far, so if you see someone first and shoot straight, you'll win the shootout. The fast time to kill/die means there are few long range shoot-outs so this could be toned down a bit. It feels like a battle to go positive or help your team right now and it rewards teams sticking close and covering each other. Stealth and twitch-shooting loadouts are the only way to go, however. My preferred way to play is full stealth, but it was ineffective in BO2 because you'd always be out-shot by a fast player even if you saw him first or flanked him, so I welcome the return of flank and be flanked gameplay.

[The Rogerer]

That is tantamount to booting somebody from your lobby, which is in 98% of all multiplayer games. Hardly an advantage, and if you actually rented a server hell yeah you should be able to kick who you want.No it is not.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I really am hooked now guys. All of a sudden, just realising I should shake off the habits of the last game. The colour palette and sound effects have bedded in now too.

The killstreaks seem to be barely noticable at times. The juggernaut Maniac streak is good fun but not a huge advantage from what I've seen. The best killstreaks tend to be mini-map related or revealing positions.

[El Fangel]

What do you get for sniper rifles at the start? Barrett?

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Not looked. You can unlock higher level stuff early with squad points anyway. I don't even know how many of the guns are real.

I sniped a lot in MW2, but the games since haven't favoured it. The maps in this game certainly make sniping useful.

[El Fangel]

Wife said last night she hates to admit it but wanted me to get CoD so she can try it herself. I had planned on getting BlOps because I know the maps and the weaponry and it would be about half the price of Ghosts.

So let me ask, do you feel it would be worth the extra cost to get it? Any issues with anything yet? Glitches or anything people are using to an unexpected advantage? Kinda want to make sure they have those things patched if I do consider it. I was going to get BF4 but I think that may be too much for her first shooter.

And yes, I realize it has been out only a handful of days.

[Fignuts]

ROFL

[alvarado52]

Fuckin' Fangel.

[El Fangel]

Yep. Itll be entertaining to say the least

[Miotch]

who had November 10th in the pool?

[VSG]

Fangry's alive again!

[El Fangel]

Does it count if i dont play it?

[VSG]

Don't kid yourself.

[El Fangel]

I don't plan on it, which is why im hesitant on spending 75 especially if she doesn't like it.

[RP]

Blah blah blah blah comma blah blah blah blah blah blah period

[RP]

Is anyone on PS3 at all? Anyone?

[alvarado52]

Well since I was nicely surprised with a $700 financial aid check, i will be on the PS4


PSN names remain the same, yes?

[Blitz]

Once you get used to the new systems, this isn't so bad. I still don't like the maps, but it's easier once you start learning them.

New modes are pretty fun too. Really like Hunted.

[Emperor Smeat]

For those who are hardcore fans of Call of Duty, you've probably noticed this special trophy cabinet somewhere in the latest game Ghosts. While there are several other interesting trophies, there is one that will catch your eye.

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/vJHMqV5.jpg

In the trophy case you can see a trophy shaped like a Rupee, the currency from The Legend of Zelda and in the text it says, "Awarded for: Most Bushes cut and pots smashed".
http://www.screwattack.com/news/theres-legend-zelda-easter-egg-call-duty-ghosts

[Heisenberg]

just got this. intense. do we have a clan?

[Heisenberg]

I'm most likely going to be on in 6-8 hours if anyone wants to tag up and start a revolution on the XBOX 360 version of Call of Duty:Ghosts

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The spawns need fixed fucking big time. It's easy to suddenly die 3-4 times in succession here because of terrible spawns, going both ways. I just had a game where I died when some arsehole spawned right behind me (with a satcom up, he had no stealth perk on, he just appeared between scans and killed me) then I died another 3 times from terrible spawns in front of other opponents.

[alvarado52]

This game is terrible. Create A Class is a mess, the squad points system sucks, maps are too large, assault rifles are the only decent guns, and quick scoping is EVERYWHERE.

In summary: im trading this in to amazon towards Titanfall.

[Kalyx triaD]

You purchased this?

[alvarado52]

Felt like I should give it a fair shake. I also got it on the cheap and the trade in will give me back the cash I spent on it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I would encourage you to persevere a bit, I didn't like it at first but now the only thing really bothering me is the still awful spawns. A couple of patches haven't really fixed them, it's astounding how spawns can be so bad on such big maps.

[Heisenberg]

That map with the castle ruins is heartbreaking with spawns! I love that map too, with the paranoia it causes, but as you said, the spawns are killing this experience.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Yeah it is really, really bad on that map. That is a huge map too so there is no excuse for continually spawning beside enemies. Same with the Siege level, the huge map that also has ruins and is beside the sea, the spawns on it are simply terrible. If you die once in this game it can quickly turn in to 3-4 deaths.

Last night I saw a guy who killed me re-spawning in the killcam 3 times in one game, that's just bad. There was a patch out yesterday that claimed to fix spawning issues, like the previous two did, but they are simply not any better.

[Heisenberg]

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/196826_4128353095_7635_n.jpg

I was Ghosts before Ghosts was Ghosts

[Miotch]

I've only played for a few hours to this point, but the spawns really are my only complaint. There doesn't seem to be massive lag, and the maps all seem pretty good. All of the weapons seem to bring something to the table as well.

Oh and quickscoping too. Fuck that noise. I don't understand how they continue to put that into these games.

[Kalyx triaD]

Quickscoping is a result of the inherent game mechanics. They would have to make major changes under the hood to stop it.

[alvarado52]

Got this again on the One from someone who had a digital code for it, so I'll give it more time to grow on me...only because I didn't have to pay for it.