Bully Ray v. John Cena in a TABLES match

[slik]

Who would win this brawl to end them all?



(Bully Ray now and Cena now)

[Nark Order]

I just want an over/under on how many actual wrestling moves would occur during this match.

[Ruien]

You can't see me!

[Curd]

I say Bully Ray because even without A&E, he would find ways to cheat effectively.

[Big Vic]

Who would win this brawl to end them all?



(Bully Ray now and Cena now)
Who ever is booked to win (probably Cena)

[loopydate]

Who ever is booked to win (probably Cena)

The top guy in the top company would definitely booked to beat the (maybe) 5th-biggest star in the distant second-place promotion.

Now, if this was something like Sting vs. Triple H or Angle vs. Orton, the argument would be way less one-sided.

[Big Vic]

I agree but if TNA booked it they might give bully the win.

[loopydate]

True, but ONLY TNA would book that. If you gave this hypothetical WWE/TNA show to any booker that's not on their payroll, Cena's going over.

[Swiss Ultimate]

What if Bully Ray went back to the WWE?

*Mind blown

[Big Vic]

What if Bully Ray went back to the WWE?

*Mind blown
Cena is the #1 guy there. Ask Christian what happened when he went back.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Okay okay...but what if Cena went to TNA?

*MIND BLOWN?

[loopydate]

I have a hunch they would probably put Cena over.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cena.

[James Steele]

:lol:

The idea of Cena in the iMPACT! Zone is laughable, but I never thought I'd see Angle in TNA - let alone for 7 years.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Would Cena be "popular" on Impact though? Feel like that'd go over about as well as Hogan in ECW.

[Big Vic]

All he would have to say when he first arrives would be "I want six sides" and then the crowd would crazy pop for him.

[Tom Guycott]

I agree but if TNA booked it they might give bully the win.

I have a hunch they would probably put Cena over.

Even in a totally hypothetical situation outside of his own promotion, Cena still wins.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Bully Ray sat on a table and it broke because of his fat ass. Cena wins.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If there were some bizarre crossover realm where, say, Vince had bought TNA, I could actually see them putting over Bully Ray because he'd need the win more to look like a credible force. If it were to unify the TNA and WWE Championships, then I think Bully would stand something more to gain from it.

It would actually be a pretty hot angle if Ray showed up in the WWE. Vince McMahon could welcome back "Bubba Ray Dudley" and he could tell Vince to keep his crappy trademarks, because he is Bully Ray all the way now. Ray could officially be the WWE Champion, despite Ray claiming he's the "TNA Champion." When someone defeats him, they go back to representing the championship with the WWE Title.

Triple H vs. Sting would result in Sting forcing Triple H to submit the Scorpion Death Lock. Sting would then set his sights on the World Heavyweight Championship -- a title that he feels is misrepresented by Dolph Ziggler in the WWE.

AJ Styles would beat Rey Mysterio in a "high-flying dream match" and then challenge The Undertaker, because there can only be one "Phenom."

Kurt Angle would want to find out who is The Greatest of All-Time -- him or Daniel Bryan. They have a classic match which Bryan wins cleanly by submission with The No Lock to establish himself further as a main event player. He's walking backstage and is laughed at by Jack Swagger who says that Angle's no "Real American." Hulk Hogan then appears in Angle's corner as he faces Swagger.

Matt Morgan continuously shows up an Carbon Footprints Sheamus, who calls out Morgan for his cowardly conduct. Morgan aligns himself with Bully Ray and says that he never got a chance in the WWE because Vince McMahon paid him to stutter. He's not going to mince his words this time, though -- he's here to wage war against the corporate cut-outs like Sheamus, because he's a "Blueprint" to the Superstar they all wished they could be.

Aces & Eights in the WWE would consist of Bully Ray, Matt Morgan, Garett Bischoff (say what you want, the name "Bischoff" opposing McMahon might actually make Garett a decent pawn), Luke Gallows and Ken Kennedy -- all men that are pissed off at the WWE for dropping the ball with them or just picking up family rivalries. Kennedy goes after Orton and claims that Orton pulled strings to get him fired. Orton wins that match, because Kennedy is probably not someone that they would want to push. Bischoff would just play corner man and get into scuffs with Brad Maddox, who would beat Garett quite soundly and get Brad a big win. Vince then fires Garett and Bischoff gets repackaged in developmental if they want to keep him.

Kane and Abyss have the first-ever "Monster's Ball," which Abyss wins, and the company builds up as "his match." Abyss may or may not get over as a force to be reckoned with in WWE.

Chris Sabin brings the X-Division Championship in, but is far more respectful than a lot of other TNA newcomers. Sabin wrestles the likes of Sin Cara, Kofi Kingston, Justin Gabriel, etc., managing to win cleanly, but in ways that protect his opponents as well. Sabin then meets his match in the form of Tyson Kidd, who forces Sabin to tap TNA's unique championship over to a WWE guy. They can retire the belt or keep the high-octane stuff going and call it the "WWE X-Division Championship."

Tazz returns and does commentary during "Paul Heyman Guy" matches. Tazz vs. JBL becomes a dream feud that can't happen due to Tazz's neck surgery. Mike Tenay does commentary on Superstars and forms a super-nerdy team with Matt Striker. Tenay also flies to SmackDown and does Saturday Morning Slam with Josh Mathews and whoever the guest Superstar announcer is. They might even be able to use him on SmackDown or Main Event as a third guy in the booth.

Austin Aries and Daniel Bryan have a few interesting interactions. After Bryan defeats Angle, he moves onto a rivalry with Aries, who initially has issues with Chris Jericho. "You're the best in the world at what you do, but I'm the greatest man that ever lived." Bryan & Jericho vs. Angle & Aries would be a tremendous tag team match.

Bobby Roode is offered a place in Aces & Eights, but declines, instead focusing on proving that as a Canadian, he is superior to everybody. He goes right after the US Title, and fails to win it from Dean Ambrose, who is a face be default against the pro-Canadian Roode, and TNA outsider. Eventually, The Shield get involved in their issues, however, but James Storm runs to the save with Gunner. Beer Money are temporarily reunited alongside the guy Storm is currently mentoring, and they challenge The Shield and hand the group their first pinfall loss as a unit. Beer Money decide they want to challenge for the Tag Titles together, but a betrayed Gunner costs them the match and becomes the fourth member of The Shield. He also gets a far better name than "Gunner." He bumps into Ric Flair backstage on RAW and asks Flair if he remembers him. The Miz stands up for Ric Flair and joins Beer Money in their fight against The Shield. A returning John Morrison (perhaps a future WWE X-Division Champion) returns and aligns teams with them against The Shield at a PPV.

Chavo Guerrero, Hernandez and Bad Influence pad out the tag team division. Kenny King shows up in his tag team with Rhett Titus, obviously under WWE owned names. They can perhaps reform their ROH-based alliance with Austin Aries.

Oh, and CM Punk is attacked by Jeff Hardy to kick-start the WWE vs. TNA thing. Punk reminds Hardy that it was Punk who exiled him from the WWE years back and he can't just come back. The two have a pretty lengthy and wild feud. Hardy can wrestle Curtis Axel a few times and Punk can cost him those matches.

Zack Ryder beats Robbie E. a few times; Sin Cara beats Suicide; Samoa Joe takes on Ryback and rhetorically asks him "You think you're hungry?"

[Lock Jaw]

Cena, because he always seems to lose Tables Matches. They are his weakness.

[Curd]

If there were some bizarre crossover realm where, say, Vince had bought TNA, I could actually see them putting over Bully Ray because he'd need the win more to look like a credible force. If it were to unify the TNA and WWE Championships, then I think Bully would stand something more to gain from it.

It would actually be a pretty hot angle if Ray showed up in the WWE. Vince McMahon could welcome back "Bubba Ray Dudley" and he could tell Vince to keep his crappy trademarks, because he is Bully Ray all the way now. Ray could officially be the WWE Champion, despite Ray claiming he's the "TNA Champion." When someone defeats him, they go back to representing the championship with the WWE Title.

Triple H vs. Sting would result in Sting forcing Triple H to submit the Scorpion Death Lock. Sting would then set his sights on the World Heavyweight Championship -- a title that he feels is misrepresented by Dolph Ziggler in the WWE.

AJ Styles would beat Rey Mysterio in a "high-flying dream match" and then challenge The Undertaker, because there can only be one "Phenom."

Kurt Angle would want to find out who is The Greatest of All-Time -- him or Daniel Bryan. They have a classic match which Bryan wins cleanly by submission with The No Lock to establish himself further as a main event player. He's walking backstage and is laughed at by Jack Swagger who says that Angle's no "Real American." Hulk Hogan then appears in Angle's corner as he faces Swagger.

Matt Morgan continuously shows up an Carbon Footprints Sheamus, who calls out Morgan for his cowardly conduct. Morgan aligns himself with Bully Ray and says that he never got a chance in the WWE because Vince McMahon paid him to stutter. He's not going to mince his words this time, though -- he's here to wage war against the corporate cut-outs like Sheamus, because he's a "Blueprint" to the Superstar they all wished they could be.

Aces & Eights in the WWE would consist of Bully Ray, Matt Morgan, Garett Bischoff (say what you want, the name "Bischoff" opposing McMahon might actually make Garett a decent pawn), Luke Gallows and Ken Kennedy -- all men that are pissed off at the WWE for dropping the ball with them or just picking up family rivalries. Kennedy goes after Orton and claims that Orton pulled strings to get him fired. Orton wins that match, because Kennedy is probably not someone that they would want to push. Bischoff would just play corner man and get into scuffs with Brad Maddox, who would beat Garett quite soundly and get Brad a big win. Vince then fires Garett and Bischoff gets repackaged in developmental if they want to keep him.

Kane and Abyss have the first-ever "Monster's Ball," which Abyss wins, and the company builds up as "his match." Abyss may or may not get over as a force to be reckoned with in WWE.

Chris Sabin brings the X-Division Championship in, but is far more respectful than a lot of other TNA newcomers. Sabin wrestles the likes of Sin Cara, Kofi Kingston, Justin Gabriel, etc., managing to win cleanly, but in ways that protect his opponents as well. Sabin then meets his match in the form of Tyson Kidd, who forces Sabin to tap TNA's unique championship over to a WWE guy. They can retire the belt or keep the high-octane stuff going and call it the "WWE X-Division Championship."

Tazz returns and does commentary during "Paul Heyman Guy" matches. Tazz vs. JBL becomes a dream feud that can't happen due to Tazz's neck surgery. Mike Tenay does commentary on Superstars and forms a super-nerdy team with Matt Striker. Tenay also flies to SmackDown and does Saturday Morning Slam with Josh Mathews and whoever the guest Superstar announcer is. They might even be able to use him on SmackDown or Main Event as a third guy in the booth.

Austin Aries and Daniel Bryan have a few interesting interactions. After Bryan defeats Angle, he moves onto a rivalry with Aries, who initially has issues with Chris Jericho. "You're the best in the world at what you do, but I'm the greatest man that ever lived." Bryan & Jericho vs. Angle & Aries would be a tremendous tag team match.

Bobby Roode is offered a place in Aces & Eights, but declines, instead focusing on proving that as a Canadian, he is superior to everybody. He goes right after the US Title, and fails to win it from Dean Ambrose, who is a face be default against the pro-Canadian Roode, and TNA outsider. Eventually, The Shield get involved in their issues, however, but James Storm runs to the save with Gunner. Beer Money are temporarily reunited alongside the guy Storm is currently mentoring, and they challenge The Shield and hand the group their first pinfall loss as a unit. Beer Money decide they want to challenge for the Tag Titles together, but a betrayed Gunner costs them the match and becomes the fourth member of The Shield. He also gets a far better name than "Gunner." He bumps into Ric Flair backstage on RAW and asks Flair if he remembers him. The Miz stands up for Ric Flair and joins Beer Money in their fight against The Shield. A returning John Morrison (perhaps a future WWE X-Division Champion) returns and aligns teams with them against The Shield at a PPV.

Chavo Guerrero, Hernandez and Bad Influence pad out the tag team division. Kenny King shows up in his tag team with Rhett Titus, obviously under WWE owned names. They can perhaps reform their ROH-based alliance with Austin Aries.

Oh, and CM Punk is attacked by Jeff Hardy to kick-start the WWE vs. TNA thing. Punk reminds Hardy that it was Punk who exiled him from the WWE years back and he can't just come back. The two have a pretty lengthy and wild feud. Hardy can wrestle Curtis Axel a few times and Punk can cost him those matches.

Zack Ryder beats Robbie E. a few times; Sin Cara beats Suicide; Samoa Joe takes on Ryback and rhetorically asks him "You think you're hungry?"


Noid's ideas need to become reality. :y:

[Kane Knight]

Even in a totally hypothetical situation outside of his own promotion, Cena still wins.

He's booked JUST THAT STRONG.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'd rather see Bully vs. RYBACK !!!!!!