In five different languages...

[Hitman84]

... well, four, because I don't speak Swiss.

In Italian: Antonio Cesaro è molto meglio che il ruolo che tiene attualmente nella WWE.

In French: Antonio Cesaro est beaucoup mieux que le rôle qu’il tient actuellement dans la WWE.

In German: Antonio Cesaro ist viel besser als die Rolle, die er aktuell in der WWE hat.

In English: Antonio Cesaro is much better than the role he currently has in the WWE.

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[What Would Kevin Do?]

I disagree.

Don't get me wrong, he's amazing, BUT he is not over with the crowd yet. His entire US title run, despite him having amazing matches, did nothing for him in the eyes of the crowd. At least in his current position he can get attention w/ Zeb Coulter, and move higher up the crowd, and be in matches people will care about.

[Cool King]

A Swiss language doesn't really exist as such.

Romansh is one of the languages of Switzerland and is actually native to it. So I guess when people mention Swiss, they're kind of meaning Romansh.

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[Cool King]

But being serious and actually talking about Cesaro now, and I'm enjoying what Cesaro is doing at the moment with Zeb and Swagger. I like the pairing.

I've always like Cesaro though. He can put on some amazing matches.

[Hitman84]

A Swiss language doesn't really exist as such.

Romansh is one of the languages of Switzerland and is actually native to it. So I guess when people mention Swiss, they're kind of meaning Romansh.

When Cesaro has spoken 'Swiss' on TV, he's actually been speaking Swiitzertüütsch, the Swiss variation of German, which I don't speak, hence not using it in my original post. Even that is different in each part of Switzerland. The dialect in Luzern, where Cesaro is from, is different from that in Basel or Zürich...

Back to the wrestling, though, I just love that he is a purist. His part in this weeks Gauntlet Match with Daniel Bryan was epic... I really thought they played well off each other.

I don't see the point in having him in the angle he is in right now. Rather than being in a US supremist stable, even that is better for him than yodelling, I would rather see him play up his European roots... like, when he was United States Champion it would have been much better, I feel, to have him 'replace' it with the European title à la Lance Storm renaming the WCW US title the Canadian title.

I agree they need to have him in better mid- to upper mid-card angles to get him over more as he is amazing in the ring and the heat he gets when he uses a language other than English is brilliant... they could do so much more with him than they are to get him over. When it was just Swagger and Coulter, the US supremist angle was quite believable but in my view, having a European immigrant be part of the 'Real Americans' stable makes the angle, and Cesaro along with it, laughable.

[Cool King]

I just love that he is a purist. His part in this weeks Gauntlet Match with Daniel Bryan was epic... I really thought they played well off each other.

I don't see the point in having him in the angle he is in right now. Rather than being in a US supremist stable, even that is better for him than yodelling, I would rather see him play up his European roots... like, when he was United States Champion it would have been much better, I feel, to have him 'replace' it with the European title à la Lance Storm renaming the WCW US title the Canadian title.

I agree they need to have him in better mid- to upper mid-card angles to get him over more as he is amazing in the ring and the heat he gets when he uses a language other than English is brilliant... they could do so much more with him than they are to get him over. When it was just Swagger and Coulter, the US supremist angle was quite believable but in my view, having a European immigrant be part of the 'Real Americans' stable makes the angle, and Cesaro along with it, laughable.

Anything is better than yodelling. I hated that they had him doing that, but I get the feeling it was test to see if he would do what he's asked or some crap like that.

But thankfully, the yodelling has stopped. I did think and kind of hoped to see him bring back the European Championship. If he did that, I would have loved it. I too don't quite get the whole "Real Americans" thing either but I do like the pairing of Swagger and Cesaro, but that's maybe because I like both guys quite a lot.

Think of it this way though, at least he isn't yodelling.

[Hitman84]

Team Swagger and Cesaro up, great, just not in this angle. I'll get over it soon! Hehe.

How do we think Cesaro would do as a face? How could they turn him and get him over?

Think of it this way though, at least he isn't yodelling.

Yes, no more yodelling, praise the lord.

[parkmania]

I think the "Real Americans" stable has a bit more legs (mostly because of Zeb), but once it's on the downslide, I think you could play up his sheer athleticism in vignettes much like they did back in the day with Mr. Perfect and more recently with MVP (when he was paired/feuding with Matt Hardy).

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You don't have to have him snap a la Daniel Bryan. Just have him cut a promo about how Zeb was holding him back from his full potential.

You can have him become an inspirational leader using videos similar to this, but focusing the commentary more on the watcher's possibilities than his personal accomplishments:

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[BizarroKing]

... well, four, because I don't speak Swiss.

In Italian: Antonio Cesaro è molto meglio che il ruolo che tiene attualmente nella WWE.

In French: Antonio Cesaro est beaucoup mieux que le rôle qu’il tient actuellement dans la WWE.

In German: Antonio Cesaro ist viel besser als die Rolle, die er aktuell in der WWE hat.

In English: Antonio Cesaro is much better than the role he currently has in the WWE.

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In Swiss: Antonio Cesaro är mycket bättre än den roll han har idag i WWE...

diskutera

[Hitman84]

I think the "Real Americans" stable has a bit more legs (mostly because of Zeb), but once it's on the downslide, I think you could play up his sheer athleticism in vignettes much like they did back in the day with Mr. Perfect and more recently with MVP (when he was paired/feuding with Matt Hardy).

Like it! When the angle is on the way out, I think they could go one of two ways...

a) Cesaro is made to leave the stable as he isn't American and embraces his European roots again. He is a heel because he feels rejected by Americans, and so speaks to the crowd in Swiitzertüütsch all the time, reintroduces the European title (as suggested, even if only as a fleeting gimmick for this one storyline) etc etc.
b) Cesaro leaves the stable because of the anti-immigrant prejudice and becomes a face who is proud of having moved to America. Put the US belt on Swagger and he could feud with him over it, culminating in an 'if-Swagger-loses-Zeb-Coulter-is-fired' on a pole match.

Any other thoughts / ideas?

[Hitman84]

In Swiss: Antonio Cesaro är mycket bättre än den roll han har idag i WWE...

diskutera

I'm pretty sure that's SWEDISH there, not Swiss... or did you do that on purpose?

[BigCrippyZ]

He is a heel because he feels rejected by Americans, and so speaks to the crowd in Swiitzertüütsch all the time, reintroduces the European title (as suggested, even if only as a fleeting gimmick for this one storyline) etc etc.

I feel like they should have debuted him like this as a heel and really stuck with it for a while at least a year. Maybe given him an obnoxious English mouth piece as a translator. Have him be incredible in the ring, which he is.

Cesaro leaves the stable because of the anti-immigrant prejudice and becomes a face who is proud of having moved to America. Put the US belt on Swagger and he could feud with him over it, culminating in an 'if-Swagger-loses-Zeb-Coulter-is-fired' on a pole match.

I don't really care for the role he's in now, as it doesn't make a ton of sense. I do like this idea, but they'd need to some how flesh out his character more and he needs to get over more as a heel first before turning. Don't just randomly turn him just to rush this storyline.

[parkmania]

Cesaro leaves the stable because of the anti-immigrant prejudice and becomes a face who is proud of having moved to America. Put the US belt on Swagger and he could feud with him over it, culminating in an 'if-Swagger-loses-Zeb-Coulter-is-fired' on a pole match.

I don't really care for the role he's in now, as it doesn't make a ton of sense. I do like this idea, but they'd need to some how flesh out his character more and he needs to get over more as a heel first before turning. Don't just randomly turn him just to rush this storyline.

Agreed. When they break up the stable, they need to have a blow-off match between the two with both starting as full-blown heels, then turn Cesaro mid-match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love Cesaro. His current role is allowing him to shine in the ring and finally develop a connection with crowds. The WWE is giving him a real chance to succeed, so I hope he makes it. I would love to see him with the US Title again, but Dean Ambrose has that locked down pretty tightly for the moment.

Now that Mark Henry is a babyface, I actually wouldn't mind a Cesaro vs. Henry "cold rivalry," where Cesaro and Henry enter competitions against each other, but Zeb wants Cesaro to be more focused on their "mission." It could start an eventual Cesaro face turn.

[Emperor Smeat]

Agree in regards of wrestling skills since he could easily be showcased like Daniel Bryan has been even as a heel.

Disagree about his spot or role since its perfect for him right now and a great way to rebuild the mess since his early US title reign. The yodeling and random jobbing did nothing to help while the WWE dropped the ball on the whole "no American can beat him" basis for his character.

He now has Zeb to take care of the promo stuff while can go right back to showcasing his wrestling skills in a gimmick very similar to his first one. Before it was him showing he was better than Americans and now its him showing he's better than so called "Americans" in Zeb's eyes.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cesaro is actually doing things to get heat now. Back when he was just yodeling, he was a Swiss guy who maybe was a little arrogant, but was essentially just a good wrestler we were meant to boo. Now he's a massive hypocrite.

[Theo Dious]

He's Vladimir Koslov from a different country.

[Shadrick]

I fuck with Cesaro. Thats my dog.

[Bad News Gertner]

Cesaro is pretty much where he belongs. Fantastic in the ring, but boring as fuck on the mic.

[James Steele]

My bum is on the Swedish.

[Hitman84]

How do we feel about teaming him up with another wrestler from, or billed as being from, Europe? I think Drew McIntyre is wasted in 3MB - team him up with Cesaro and have them challenge for the Tag Team titles as (yet another) anti-US heel team. Heck, even having a heel Santino on such a team with him would be great! Cesaro as the straight man, down to business, getting the job done and Santino making jokes and sarcastic remarks about the opposition. This would allow Santino to shine more in the ring too. As funny as he is, he is a better wrestler than he is made out to be due to his comedy.

I would have suggested Sheamus, but he is clearly beyond being in a mid- to upper mid-card tag team now, or Wade Barrett... though a Cesaro/Barrett tag team would also be kick-ass...

I do like the idea below, though, as well...

Now that Mark Henry is a babyface, I actually wouldn't mind a Cesaro vs. Henry "cold rivalry," where Cesaro and Henry enter competitions against each other, but Zeb wants Cesaro to be more focused on their "mission." It could start an eventual Cesaro face turn.

[Skippord]

Cesaro is pretty much where he belongs. Fantastic in the ring, but boring as fuck on the mic.
so he's basically Swiss Alberto Del Rio

better in the ring though

[Bad News Gertner]

I find Del Rio as a heel highly entertaining.

Cesaro manages to be boring in 5 languages.

He's BO-ringlingual!!!!!!


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Bad News Gertner]

How do we feel about teaming him up with another wrestler from, or billed as being from, Europe? I think Drew McIntyre is wasted in 3MB - team him up with Cesaro and have them challenge for the Tag Team titles as (yet another) anti-US heel team. Heck, even having a heel Santino on such a team with him would be great! Cesaro as the straight man, down to business, getting the job done and Santino making jokes and sarcastic remarks about the opposition. This would allow Santino to shine more in the ring too. As funny as he is, he is a better wrestler than he is made out to be due to his comedy.

I would have suggested Sheamus, but he is clearly beyond being in a mid- to upper mid-card tag team now, or Wade Barrett... though a Cesaro/Barrett tag team would also be kick-ass...

I do like the idea below, though, as well...

You are not splitting up the greatest stable in wrestling

[seapig4]

Cesaro w/ Regal Vs Swagger w/ Zeb

[Bad News Gertner]

In Italian: banale (http://en.bab.la/dictionary/italian-english/banale)
In German: langweilig (http://www.vocabulix.com/translation/german-english/langweilig.html)
In Polish: Nudny
In French: ennuyeux
In English: BORING!!!!!!

[Hitman84]

OK... what here is supposed to be boring?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I saw both Cesaro and Bret Hart mentioned. Could be either really.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cesaro played the babyface in Australia against Curtis Axel last night and apparently did a tremendous job.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I bet you that match would have you riveted, Gertner.

[BizarroKing]

I'm pretty sure that's SWEDISH there, not Swiss... or did you do that on purpose?

It was the only language that google translate could do that I thought was close enough.

[Hitman84]

I'm pretty sure that's SWEDISH there, not Swiss... or did you do that on purpose?

It was the only language that google translate could do that I thought was close enough.

Ah, see, whenever I tell my friend that I am going to Switzerland, he purposely speaks at me in a fake Swedish accent... just in friendly, jokey banter as he knows I'll pick him up on it. That's what I thought you were doing there... :) On a related note, I had to laugh at an episode of NXT a few months ago during which Dusty Rhodes purposely confused Switzerland and Sweden, seemingly to unnerve Cesaro before his match with the NXT babyface.

Cesaro played the babyface in Australia against Curtis Axel last night and apparently did a tremendous job.

I would have liked to have seen that... sounds like a good match.

[#1-norm-fan]

A stellar wrestler with less than stellar mic skills has an awesome manager and some semblance of a character. It's a start. Most of the roster is underused because outside of the main event, storylines to help build a character up are few and far between these days. Cesaro's in a good position though.