The "If *NOC SPOILER* I'm not watching again until Cena comes back" Raw thread for 9/16

[Hanso Amore]

Cm punk is kind of a bully.

He's always talking down to everyone and beating doctors

He's always telling people on twitter to kill themselves.

Thank god sometime is standing up to that jerk

[Cool King]

Usos Win.

[BigCrippyZ]

Everyone on the roster is kind of a bully.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Prime Time back to the back of the line.

[Hanso Amore]

I could get behind a tons of funk vs shield series

[Theo Dious]

When did they cut feed me more out of rybacks music?

That was part of his face gimmick.

[Cool King]

Lawler reading from Wikipedia pages again.

[#1-norm-fan]

Barkevious Mingo reference on Raw.

[Hanso Amore]

I understand that tedious. I'm asking when it was removed from the music as I just noticed it.

[Theo Dious]

STOP SAYING THAT WORD

[Hanso Amore]

That butterfly suplex was all cesaro

[Theo Dious]

I understand that tedious. I'm asking when it was removed from the music as I just noticed it.

Thought it was why. Leave me alone, I'm like 8 months overdue to see my optometrist. :rant:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hahah them trying to say that move was anything but Cesaro's strength.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

WE THE PEOPLE!

[#1-norm-fan]

Tons of Funk should be relevant, dammit.

[Theo Dious]

Thought it was why. Leave me alone, I'm like 8 months overdue to see my optometrist. :rant:

AND OKAY FINE I've been drinking heavily since before Raw came on.

[Theo Dious]

Tons of Funk should be relevant, dammit.

Your mom is relevant.

[Hanso Amore]

Gotta feel bad for Brodua now that his dancers get more of a push

[Hanso Amore]

AND OKAY FINE I've been drinking heavily since before Raw came on.

Glad I'm not the only one

[Cool King]

"BUY THE APP AND SEE PEOPLE SWING!"

[Theo Dious]

Gotta feel bad for Brodua now that his dancers get more of a push

Seriously though who thought that the Funkasaurus gimmick would still be going strong after damn near two years?

[Hanso Amore]

I love the fact that Jbl and randy savage chants are weekly occurrences

[slik]

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[#1-norm-fan]

Psh. Crowd trying to be the post-WrestleMania crowd. Come up with your own chants, dipshits.

[el bobbo]

This crowd is drunk.

[DrCrawford]

the usos boots look like they're wearing adidas sandals with black socks

[Hanso Amore]

Seriously though who thought that the Funkasaurus gimmick would still be going strong after damn near two years?

I thought he would have had at last an ic title run

[Cool King]

Usos win.

[Hanso Amore]

Ugh usos again.

[GD]

Jack Swagger blatantly copying Kurt Angle.

[el bobbo]

That was a damn good match.

[Hanso Amore]

Jack Swagger blatantly copying Kurt Angle.


Yeah that's been his deal for 5 years

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

hahhahaa magic places.

[ClockShot]

Ugh. Miss hanging around during the raw threads. Want my computer back so bad.

I assume that lady in the front row during the Miz/Orton match was Miz's mom?

[Theo Dious]

Hello I'm Bray Wyatt. I say shit that makes no damn sense and people think it's brilliant because they're stupid.

[Theo Dious]

Ugh. Miss hanging around during the raw threads. Want my computer back so bad.

I assume that lady in the front row during the Miz/Orton match was Miz's mom?

Your mom is Miz's mom.

[Bad News Gertner]

:lol: Dusty randomly emphasizing "hell"

Teddy Long is upset with Dusty stealing his gimmick

[slik]

I love Bray Wyatt

[Cool King]

hahhahaa magic places.

Yeah, it's hilarious. You'd think he was talking to kids.

[Nark Order]

Hello I'm Bray Wyatt. I say shit that makes no damn sense and people think it's brilliant because they're stupid.

what

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Brie hug

[Savio]

Was that SR4 music?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Make a guy a heel right before a big DVD going on sale=Good for Business.

[Cool King]

Did Rollins just tell Reigns to "dominate that man-boy"?

[Poit]

I didn't hear that, but I truly hope that happened.

[Savio]

Why would this be a punishment match for Bryan?

[GD]

So technically, Alberto Del Rio is the most important champion in the WWE right now.

[#1-norm-fan]

Michael Cole is very excited to have learned a new word.

[slik]

Has The Shield push been going strong for an entire year now?

[Poit]

So technically, Alberto Del Rio is the most champion in the WWE right now.

The most what champion? What, Dave? THE MOST WHAT?

[#1-norm-fan]

Has The Shield push been going strong for an entire year now?

I wouldn't say "strong". It's gone through it's valleys. Like when they went from being absolutely unbeatable against the likes of Cena, Ryback, Sheamus and Orton to losing clean to Christian and The Usos.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Doing all that during the match. Riveting.

[Cool King]

Love Roman Reigns.

The man is a beast.

[Emperor Smeat]

I wouldn't say "strong". It's gone through it's valleys. Like when they went from being absolutely unbeatable against the likes of Cena, Ryback, Sheamus and Orton to losing to Christian and The Usos.

Yeah for a bit it looked like they had the same "curse" most mid-card champs get with the lack of direction and focus after winning the title. Got right back on track once they became the muscle for Triple H's regime.

[Savio]

Has The Shield push been going strong for an entire year now?
Kinda they really didn't wrestle for the first 3 months though.

[GD]

The most what champion? What, Dave? THE MOST WHAT?

So technically, Alberto Del Rio is the most important champion in the WWE right now.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah for a bit it looked like they had the same "curse" most mid-card champs get with the lack of direction and focus after winning the title. Got right back on track once they became the muscle for Triple H's regime.

Unfortunately, the titles still lack direction.

[GD]

As per my knowledge, Roman Reigns has never been defeated via pinfall or submission in the WWE.

[BigCrippyZ]

I have yet to see Bryan hit that kick.

[Savio]

Reigns looks like Jafar on roids

[DrCrawford]

holy fuck

[Poit]

Holy shit, that bump Rollins took.

[DrCrawford]

those camera shakes everytime someone kicks or punches someone are making me feel sick. its usually never that over exaggerated

[#1-norm-fan]

Still the entire overrun to go. There's still a chance this won't just end with another Bryan beatdown.

[Poit]

Yeah, I'm not liking this camera work.

[Savio]

probably should't call DB "this kid"

[Poit]

Well damn, that's a big Union.

[Cool King]

Hey look, Zack Ryder is still alive.

[#1-norm-fan]

OH SHIT! RUN-IN BY EVERYONE!!!

[GD]

Holy shit! The Usos and Kofi leading the cavalry.

[Savio]

lol Kingston takes the only hit.

[Poit]

Gabriel, Ryder, and R-Truth seem out of place here.

[Savio]

RVD looks bored lol

[Emperor Smeat]

That was awesome.

:lol: Kofi being the only guy who got nailed.

[el bobbo]

It's a mutiny.

[Innovator]

About time

[slik]

I actually loved that ending.

I randomly got goosebumps.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Cool King]

Good Raw.

[#1-norm-fan]

Gabriel, Ryder, and R-Truth seem out of place here.

Guys who can claim to have been held back because the higher ups don't think they're "face of the company" types. Makes sense.

[#1-norm-fan]

I like that it was just a select few guys from the back who spanned from Superstars jobber to near main eventer. Makes it seem like just a random group who got together in the back and decided to take a stand.

[Theo Dious]

The biggest thing I don't like right now is corporate pussy-boy HHH. He and Stephanie are trying way too hard to be Vince, and the two of them together aren't half as good as what he is at what he does. I'd like to see them do the locker room mutiny angle again but actually NOT fuck it up this time. Again going with the presumed theme that it will end up being HHH vs Vince on some level, they need to get it to where Vince becomes the crack in the corporate machine's foundation. They could start that as soon as next week if they do this properly.

[Hanso Amore]

Missing tons of funk and other faces. Wonder where this goes no way they involve all these jobbers

[Theo Dious]

Thinking about it, Stephanie and HHH were way better as the usurpers back in 2000.

[Theo Dious]

Missing tons of funk and other faces. Wonder where this goes no way they involve all these jobbers

All they need is a significant block of faces to stand together and be like "no, we're not putting up with this anymore. You have no show without us." Doesn't matter who.

[Hanso Amore]

Yes but I still chuckle at that statement with Gabriel and Ryder in the ring.

Ziggler, rvd, usos and kofi make perfect sense. Ptp are faces now getting slight pushes so that is good. Gabriel and Ryder just makes me chuckle.

[Lock Jaw]

Alex Riley wanted to come out with the other faces to join the big brawl, but everyone was concerned that he would accidentally hit them instead.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/superstar_large/public/talent/profile/2013/09/generic_full.png

This guy is the greatest WWE Champ of all time

[dronepool]

I actually loved that ending.

I randomly got goosebumps.

I liked the ending as well.

[#1-norm-fan]

Alex Riley wanted to come out with the other faces to join the big brawl, but everyone was concerned that he would accidentally hit them instead.

HAH! What an obscure reference. :love:

[Lock Jaw]

Best part of the night was seeing how indifferent The Miz's dad was to his son being beat down. Like most of us, dude just did not care about The Miz.

[Lock Jaw]

Miz can't even get over with his own dad

[Lock Jaw]

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HGA

[Corndad]

Loved that ending. Gives so many guys "something" to do. When's the last time Ryder had anything relevant? Gabriel? This will bring guys like that to the front of stuff, even if just means a match or so on Smackdown to go against HHH's guys. Have no idea where they are going for the WWE Title but that group ending gives me hope for an amazing feud with alot of guys involved with in next few months. That's not even including the Rhodes stuff. Cody comes back as an uberface after all this. Who would have guessed that months ago?

Cena being gone has made them HAVE to make other guys Main Eventers and Stars. I kinda like it.

[el bobbo]

Cena being gone has made them HAVE to make other guys Main Eventers and Stars. I kinda like it.

It's really made Daniel Bryan a fucking star. It's been great at bringing the Shield up a notch. And I'm glad they're doing shit with The Ryback after he got buried after the feud with Cena.

Also, the tag team division has been seriously kicking ass. It might be because the Darren Young thing, but it's still really cool to have a bunch of different teams in contention for the titles again. I totally gave up on the Usos and PTP up until about a month ago. Hell, even Tons of Funk gets a chance now.

[#1-norm-fan]

They've gotta keep constant focus on the tag teams for a while longer though if they want to actually push some of them as being on the same level as The Shield. A random match here and there just to remind us they exist isn't gonna cut it.

[#1-norm-fan]

I wanna see an actual tag team feud outside the tag title picture to try to get some interest in a couple teams. Not the generic "this team beat this other team and now they're having a series of 5 minute matches and are therefore feuding" but an actual feud with some heat and substance.

[Lock Jaw]

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[dronepool]

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[Tom Guycott]

I'm sorry...But when was Cody A 4-Time Wolrd Champion??

He beat John Cena 2700 times in a row!

[MIZantine Empire]

Soooo.. Are we supposed to forget that Brad Maddox acted bias-ly as a referee not too long ago? Where is his severance package? Lol

[Poit]

No, I think that inconsistency is supposed to add to the heelishness of Triple H.

[MIZantine Empire]

Ahh.. Guess forgetting about previous business is what's good for business!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Think Batlleground needs to become a championship tournament now, Deadly Games style to keep the Midcard World Order from running riot by giving them opportunities. Qualifiers on Raw and SD for the next couple of weeks and start the PPV from the quarter-finals.

Make it a face v face final between Bryan and someone else, have the other guy turn in his rematch against D Bry down the line and then have Orton annoyed that he's playing the heel second fiddle. Fun times for all.

EDIT: Re-hire Cody saying it was "one of the wrestlers demands" and have him do the turn, including turning on his family.

[VSG]

A "keep your job" scramble match?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

http://i.imgur.com/ONAgxhj.png

Breaking news. Maryse breaks up with the Miz after figuring out that's what he will look like in 30 years.

[Hanso Amore]

Loved that ending. Gives so many guys "something" to do. When's the last time Ryder had anything relevant? Gabriel? This will bring guys like that to the front of stuff, even if just means a match or so on Smackdown to go against HHH's guys. Have no idea where they are going for the WWE Title but that group ending gives me hope for an amazing feud with alot of guys involved with in next few months. That's not even including the Rhodes stuff. Cody comes back as an uberface after all this. Who would have guessed that months ago?

Cena being gone has made them HAVE to make other guys Main Eventers and Stars. I kinda like it.

LOL. Who cares of those guys have something to do. zach ryder serves no purpose other than being a warm body and can fuck right off after tonight.

Same with Gabriel. Not sure why he even has a job.

[Innovator]

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Party on, Wayne

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

A "keep your job" scramble match?

Too bad 3 Minute Warning can't come back. :'(:(

[GD]

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This guy is the greatest WWE Champ of all time

"Create A Superstar" is clearly above Alberto Del Rio in the hierarchy.

[Cool King]

Think Batlleground needs to become a championship tournament now, Deadly Games style to keep the Midcard World Order from running riot by giving them opportunities. Qualifiers on Raw and SD for the next couple of weeks and start the PPV from the quarter-finals.

Make it a face v face final between Bryan and someone else, have the other guy turn in his rematch against D Bry down the line and then have Orton annoyed that he's playing the heel second fiddle. Fun times for all.

EDIT: Re-hire Cody saying it was "one of the wrestlers demands" and have him do the turn, including turning on his family.

I like the idea of a tournament happening at Battleground. It's been a while since we had a tournament.

Tournaments are always fun. :y:

[Cool King]

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This guy is the greatest WWE Champ of all time

I did chuckle when I saw that they've actually listed "Vacant" as being a superstar.

He's between Undertaker and Vickie Guerrero.

[The Condor]

Did not like the show but the last 2 matches and the finish saved it for me.

[Cuse8]

im willing to bet cody turns on his family and joins HHH and co. id actually be floored if this doesnt happen

[Lock Jaw]

I did chuckle when I saw that they've actually listed "Vacant" as being a superstar.

He's between Undertaker and Vickie Guerrero.

He's got a pretty prestigious title history.

[Lock Jaw]

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I love how happy Ryback gets

[Lock Jaw]

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[#1-norm-fan]

Think Batlleground needs to become a championship tournament now, Deadly Games style to keep the Midcard World Order from running riot by giving them opportunities. Qualifiers on Raw and SD for the next couple of weeks and start the PPV from the quarter-finals.

Make it a face v face final between Bryan and someone else, have the other guy turn in his rematch against D Bry down the line and then have Orton annoyed that he's playing the heel second fiddle. Fun times for all.

EDIT: Re-hire Cody saying it was "one of the wrestlers demands" and have him do the turn, including turning on his family.

I'd like to have Orton get eliminated early on via DQ after he doesn't break a 5 count while beating the fuck out of someone in the corner. He can then blame Triple H and Stephanie and have a gripe because he was just being the ruthless predator that they wanted him to be and it got him eliminated.

Then have the finals be Bryan vs Big Show and Show gets unwanted help from The Shield and is forced to take the pin. He can be torn between being champion but having to be corporate in order to keep it and feed his family, Orton can be the "corporate challenger" who still has something to prove and Bryan can still be looking to overcome corporate not wanting him to be champion.

It would lead to an intriguing dichotomy for a triple threat match at Survivor Series.

Plus, Show deserves another run with the title. He's awesome.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The problem with that scenario is keeping Big Show hydrated. His tear ducts will be dry as sand by the end of the program.

[scatterbrain28]

Where was D. Bry when Randy was slaughtering the Miz? Taking a piss? Out on a smoke break?

[Lock Jaw]

Not caring, just like Miz's dad.

[GD]

Where was D. Bry when Randy was slaughtering the Miz? Taking a piss? Out on a smoke break?

I believe that Daniel Bryan believes in long term storytelling. As per my knowledge, when Daniel Bryan made his debut on NXT, his mentor - The Miz treated him very poorly. They had a good feud where Daniel Bryan replaced The Miz on team WWE at the Summerslam 2010 pay-per-view event and eventually made him tap out for the United States Championship. One might argue that The Miz got the last laugh as he defeated Daniel Bryan on an edition of Monday Night RAW prior to Wrestlemania 26 in a champion versus champion match. Hence, Daniel Bryan did not help The Miz while he got "slaughtered" by Randy Orton.

[The Fraze]

Didn't read anyone contributions to this thread, nor did I want to before posting because of potential influence/difference of opinion regarding the show. I was able to catch Raw last night with Tb1, the show was f'n awesome. I really dug it. Great crowd and it came off as quite "attitudinal." The evil, sadistic characters being played by Triple H, Stephanie, and Orton have me pulling for the heels once again (shouldn't be a surprise). I do love Bryan, however. He's on fire. The storyline is really entertaining to me.

GO AHEAD.

[GD]

Didn't read anyone contributions to this thread, nor did I want to before posting because of potential influence/difference of opinion regarding the show. I was able to catch Raw last night with Tb1, the show was f'n awesome. I really dug it. Great crowd and it came off as quite "attitudinal." The evil, sadistic characters being played by Triple H, Stephanie, and Orton have me pulling for the heels once again (shouldn't be a surprise). I do love Bryan, however. He's on fire. The storyline is really entertaining to me.

GO AHEAD.

I was skeptical at first but I am now enjoying the Triple H corporate heel storyline. However, I do not enjoy Daniel Bryan getting beaten up by the end of each show. His two reigns as WWE Champion have been shorter than that of Mick Foley.

[Theo Dious]

Where was D. Bry when Randy was slaughtering the Miz? Taking a piss? Out on a smoke break?

I have a feeling that Miz comes back as a heel on this basis. If the main page can be trusted at all, he has a heel turn coming up; and not so much "where wasa D-Bry" but "why did all you midcard cocksuckers come out to save him and not me? MY FAMILY WAS THERE!!!" Heel Miz is way better anyways.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Miz should definitely turn heel out of this. I'm intrigued to see how Cody Rhodes ends up back in the company. He could align with Triple H and co. and become an interesting heel character, but he's been heel for years and never really got elevated. He's good at it and everything, but as a face he feels much fresher. If they did a Deadly Games-like tournament at Battleground, Cody Rhodes could return to fight for the WWE Championship and his job. I suggested in another thread that to keep Big Show complacent Triple H can offer him his choice of opponent in the tournament. Show then selects Cody Rhodes, effectively bringing him back to the active roster. Rhodes would find some way to defeat Big Show in the first round (Show's heart isn't in the match, or something) and then goes on to face Randy Orton in the semi-finals. Orton beats Rhodes, continuing to build the eventual moment where Rhodes does beat Orton. CM Punk defeats Ryback and then moves on to face Daniel Bryan in the semi-finals. Bryan defeats Punk, a loss which does not sit well with Punk, who costs Bryan the main event to Orton.