Really into learning about wrestling history lately.

[Bad News Gertner]

Been on an old WWWF/early 80's WWF kick as of late. Lots of interesting things about that era. Probably the most interesting thing of note I learned that Captain Lou Albano basically saved the WWF from going into bankruptcy in 1985 and that without him there would have been no Wrestlemania and the company wouldn't have made it out of 1985 even with Hogan.

Anybody else into this kind of stuff?

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Mainly the Monday Night Wars, ECW, and other stuff I missed the majority of. I watch whatever documentary type stuff I can find, from that period.

[Bad News Gertner]

I kind wore myself out from that period and needed something else. Some crazy stories from the 70's and 80's

Here's one. The night before Billy Graham was going to drop the title to Backlund he was facing Bruno in a cage match. Both thought Backlund was going to be a terrible champ (and he was), so the two made a plan to have Graham "accidently" knock Bruno out of the cage and Bruno would win the title. Bruno ended up changing his mind minutes before their bout. Apparently Vince Sr and Bruno HATED each other.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I literally JUST put in the Rise and Fall of WCW DVD. Watching it now.

[Bad News Gertner]

Such a great DVD.

[weather vane]

One time Shawn Mikeals put Marty Janety through a window at Brutuses house.

[Fignuts]

Should check out the Art of Wrestling podcasts with veterans like Dibiase and Regal. They talk a lot of history in those.

[Shisen Kopf]

Some of the Andre the Giant stories are hilarious. He was a nasty, dirty guy.

[CSL]

only listened to JR's first podcast with Austin a few days back, has lots of good Leroy McGuirk/Bill Watts/Tri State/Mid South stuff. Tons of shoots knocking around with guys like Backlund, Funk, Hillbilly Jim, Mean Gene, Dutch, Cowboy Bob, the list goes on and on, all with stories of being around or breaking through at those times. Books are probably the best way to go tho, plenty of bios knocking around from the likes of the guys mentioned there and others.

[Kris P Lettus]

I literally JUST put in the Rise and Fall of WCW DVD. Watching it now.

Such a great DVD.

Its good but not near as good as The Rise and Fall of ECW

[scatterbrain28]

I like the rise and fall of WCW. Always wondered how a billion dollar company can get flushed down the toilet without anybody getting arrested. And they fell inside 8 years. Unheard of for a company that big.

[whiteyford]

Just found out the UK wrestler Big Daddy was trained by George Hackenshmidt. Seems surreal. I also probably spelt that wrong.

[Seth82]

I love learning anything new about wrestling history.

it's pretty fucking crazy that before going national that WWWF ran its offices out of a rat infested hotel.

also it would've been pretty surreal to see Vince Sr & Phil Zacko standing in a room cutting checks with one lonely lightbulb.

[Emperor Smeat]

Think anything related to the Monday Night Wars era has been the stuff I've read about the most in general.

Always enjoyed the stories from wrestlers when it came to gags or funny incidents.

[Heyman]

Anybody else into this kind of stuff?

I'm into Trish Stratus' feet.

[Razzamajazz]

I like the rise and fall of WCW. Always wondered how a billion dollar company can get flushed down the toilet without anybody getting arrested.

i kind of wish they would've been able to include an interview with hogan/hall/or nash in it, since they were a gigantic part of it toward the end

[Seth82]

as a novice historian I was dissapointed that Rise and Fall of WCW seemed to gloss over stuff prior to 1983ish

[Heyman]

as a novice historian I was dissapointed that Rise and Fall of WCW seemed to gloss over stuff prior to 1983ish

The absence of Sid Vicious' penis in the video must have also made you quite upset

[Bad News Gertner]

I love learning anything new about wrestling history.

it's pretty fucking crazy that before going national that WWWF ran its offices out of a rat infested hotel.

also it would've been pretty surreal to see Vince Sr & Phil Zacko standing in a room cutting checks with one lonely lightbulb.

What did you think of the Superstar Billy Graham DVD

[Seth82]

What did you think of the Superstar Billy Graham DVD

I watched hour 1 last night and enjoyed it.

I wouldn't want to have been a jobber in the 70s. that story Superstar told about Baron Scicluna was kinda sad.

most likely the job guys were paid very little and under appreciated.

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah Scicluna was a former tag champ, but was generally first-second on the card. Ended up being a New York Times delivery man in 83 and probably made a ton more money doing that.

[Seth82]

also it seems like not many have good things to say about Dick The Bruiser.

He seemed to be an asshole and an egomaniac.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol love the Billy Robinson story

[Seth82]

Lol love the Billy Robinson story

lol I did too.

[Innovator]

I love the story of how Backlund never let someone get a two count on him in fear of being screwed out of the title, like with Inoki

[Bad News Gertner]

Kayfabe Commentaries is doing a Bruno Sammartino 1960's Timeline and a Roddy Piper 1984 Timeline.

Will definitely be buying these.

[Bad News Gertner]

I love the story of how Backlund never let someone get a two count on him in fear of being screwed out of the title, like with Inoki

Lol poor Backlund. He must of knew he was drawing terribly. Can't believe Vince Sr stuck with him for so long.

[mike adamle]

lol I did too.

What was it?

[Johnny Vegas]

Been on an old WWWF/early 80's WWF kick as of late. Lots of interesting things about that era. Probably the most interesting thing of note I learned that Captain Lou Albano basically saved the WWF from going into bankruptcy in 1985 and that without him there would have been no Wrestlemania and the company wouldn't have made it out of 1985 even with Hogan.

Anybody else into this kind of stuff?

Can you elaborate on this?

[Bad News Gertner]

Captain Lou met Cyndi Lauper on a airplane in 81. They developed a friendship and Lou ended up in Cyndi's videos. Lou then got Lauper into the WWF. Now Lauper at the time was the bigggest female star in the world. Without Lauper there's no MTV specials, without those Wrestlemania doesn't get off the ground. Vince had been sinking money into buying T.V time, and without the success of zwrestleman,ia the company wouldn't had made it out of 85.

[Shisen Kopf]

Def the worst rasslin forum there is

[Shisen Kopf]

Those tapes sound pretty good. Where can I buy them?

[Bad News Gertner]

What was it?

Superstar and Robinson were scheduled to fight. Robinson was notorious for hurting wrestlers and hated muscle guys. So before the match Graham taped a razorblade to his thumb in front of Robinson and told him if he even thinks of hurting him that he'll cut his eyes out. Needless to say, Robinson barely touched him lol

[Bad News Gertner]

Kayfabecommentaries.com

They are actually really interesting.

[Curd]

Just found out the UK wrestler Big Daddy was trained by George Hackenschmidt. Seems surreal. I also probably spelt that wrong.

Only off by a "c", not too bad. :y:

[Shisen Kopf]

Watching the 1997 one right now. Pretty good shit. Cornette has a poop mouth.

[Bad News Gertner]

The Kevin Nash one is even better.

[Shisen Kopf]

Have to check that one out too. 1995 was such a shitty year for rasslin. Saw a WCW house show at cobo arena in February and it was all kinds of suckiness.

WCW @ Detroit, MI - Cobo Arena - February 26, 1995 (3,500) (matinee)
WCW TV Champion Arn Anderson defeated Johnny B. Badd
Marcus Alexander Bagwell & the Patriot defeated Steve Austin (sub. for Bobby Eaton) & Lord Steven Regal
Alex Wright defeated Paul Roma
WCW Tag Team Champions Harlem Heat defeated the Nasty Boys in a No DQ match
WCW US Champion Vader defeated Jim Duggan
Randy Savage & Sting defeated Avalanche & Big Bubba
WCW World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated WCW US Champion Vader via count-out

But back to the rasslin tapes, I like what I've seen so far. Think it's a little overpriced for two dudes just sitting talking. Next time I'm up in Michigan I'll pick up a bunch from you. Give you $5 a tape!

[James Steele]

I really hope Vince McMahon writes his memoirs or something before he dies. I'd also love for them to do some roundtable discussion with him.

[Innovator]

I want to hear the business aspect and how close he came to going under at various points.

[James Steele]

I want to hear the stories about him taking finishers in strip clubs.

[James Steele]

I want to know his thoughts on guys and on his booking decisions.

[James Steele]

I want a detailed description of Linda McMahon's labial evolution through the years.

[Innovator]

And his trips to Brooklyn burlesque clubs in the middle of the week

[Bad News Gertner]

I want to hear the business aspect and how close he came to going under at various points.

I know they were VERY close in 1980

[Innovator]

I didn't know Buddy Rogers had a heart attack before his match with Bruno, which is why it's only a minute long.