Best Heel of the Last 25 Years

[CWK]

Vote. Has to be from 1988 to now

Bobby Heenan
Ric Flair
Steve Austin
Bret Hart
Raven
Dudleys
Tax
Triple H
CM Punk
The Rock
Hollywood Hogan
Vince McMahon
Sgt. Slaughter
Other

[Razzamajazz]

mcmahon

[djoutcry]

JBL

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Game. He had Rikishi run down Austin in a car.

[Bad News Gertner]

JBL

Best heel in the past 10 years hands down

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bobby Heenan

[Lock Jaw]

Probably Bobby Heenan or Vince McMahon. JBL should definitely be an option on the poll, and CM Punk had a better heel run 2009-2011

[Bad News Gertner]

Voted McMahon

[Mongo Lloyd]

hogan said he would run for president but didn't.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Flair didnt let him.

[Emperor Smeat]

Hollywood Hogan with Vince as a very close 2nd.

[Wishbone]

Vince fought God on live PPV for god's sake! Doesn't get much more heel than that.

[Shisen Kopf]

Slaughter 1991 was getting death threats from true American patriots. I hated him so much and when Hogan beat him at Rasslemania VIII I was so happy that USA #1 prevailed. Booooo Slaughter!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I feel like the main reason I voted Heenan is because if I were a wrestler I would wanna roll in his clique. He'd win me like every fucking match, and be the best friend a heel could ever have.

[Corndad]

Heenan. He was a freakin Heat machine no matter who he walked out there with. Outstanding. Vince during Austin feud a close 2nd.

[Curd]

Heenan was a great heel for a long time, but I couldn't help but cheer him when he was a hilarious heel commentator making excuses for and rationalizing heel behavior as totally the smart and sensible thing to do.

I voted Vince because besides paper terrorism against his employees, he actually beat up his own son and daughter on various occasions. Bad Dad! :)

[Curd]

And here's some audiovisual evidence, the Vince vs. Stephanie "I Quit" match at No Mercy 2003:
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That match was basically an extended squash match with a token "hope spot" for Steph. That's the type of monkeyshines you see done to Indy bump machines such as LuFisto and MsChif, not something a caring father would want done to his daughter. (In all fairness, maybe Stephanie demanded the rough treatment.)

Now if Vince had done that violence to Mickie James, then he would be one of the top faces of the past 25 years! :)

[KIRA]

Vince,however I will always maintain that Raven was a heel too complex for his audience.

[Tony Revolution]

How is Chris Jericho not on this list? He punched Shawn Michaels wife in the face...

[Tony Revolution]

BTW, Chris Jericho is the answer

[The Rogerer]

Accidentally

[#1-norm-fan]

As I do with any of these polls, I go with the first name that comes to mind when I read the question.

Write in: JBL

[Shisen Kopf]

also, Tatanka

[Heisenberg]

yeah, I like the write ins appearing. Feeling more complete

[CWK]

How is Chris Jericho not on this list? He punched Shawn Michaels wife in the face...

Jericho was a very good heel, that's why there was an "other" option to vote for.

Btw I thought Jake the Snake was much bigger of a heel for slapping Elizabeth during the Savage feud than Jericho was for slapping HBK's wife, IMO

[Savio]

There's only been one good heel in the past 10 years.

[Heisenberg]

Cena?

[Heisenberg]

I could discuss heels all day, I think one of those rep things are due for the OP.

Perhaps one day I might buy this man/woman a drink for his/her idea of making a heel based thread.

I wouldn't set this poster up for a chokeslam mind you, but I'd expect the poster to appreciate it if I turned on someone close to me to their amusement.

Tip of the hat, and splash stinger

[Corporate CockSnogger]

100% Vince McMahon

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Or Dan Scott from One Tree Hill #HotTeenDramaPost

[Heisenberg]

Sylar from HEROES






OH CLAIRE BEAR OHHHHHHHHHHH

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Didn't Sylar constantly flip flop between face and heel after season 1? I've blocked most of the show out.

[Heisenberg]

Yeah, I just liked his S1 heel run, mad heel heat with mind cutting and all that

[Savio]

Cena?
According to the poll....IMO Hassan Should have been added to the poll.

[Ermaximus]

He made himself a timebomb, only for Peter Petrelli to literally steal his thunder.

[CWK]

I messed up not adding JBL to the poll.

The option would have been:

JBL - At an ECW One Night Stand PPV

[CWK]

Kind of surprised that The Rock didn't get a single vote yet since a lot of people praise his 2003 heel work.

[Fignuts]

McMahon by a wide margin.

[Heisenberg]

I messed up not adding JBL to the poll.

The option would have been:

JBL - At an ECW One Night Stand PPV


You are forgiven by me and the other heel supporters in here

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

JBL: I wuz screwed by not being in this poll MACKLE!

Cole: So was I!

King: Me too.

[Hanso Amore]

I cant believe no ROH fans are clamoring for "Insert Shitty ROH Heel".

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Where is St. Jimmy?

[Hanso Amore]

JBL had a good run, and I liked him alot, but in the scheme of history I dont really see his Heel run as so amazing it deserves to be there with Hogan and McMahon.

JBL ranks around Orton and Edge IMHO

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hogan was a horrible heel because a heel is supposed to not be selfish. He was a heel and only he got over. Fuck him brother. JBL got Cena over huge. Hogan never gave anybody that kinda rub.

[Seth82]

Heenan's best heel work was far behind him by 1988.

He was a heat magnet in the 70s and early 80s.

Having said that I'll go with him as my choice anyway.

[Lock Jaw]

Hogan got the entire company over.

[Lock Jaw]

http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/gifs/hulk-hogan-head-bag-shocked-screaming-1362679782d.gif

[Lock Jaw]

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[whiteyford]

Raven brainwashed a kid.

[whiteyford]

Love Raven though so I'm biased.

[Heisenberg]

a Kidman?

[whiteyford]

Bout the same size.

[The Condor]

Sarge's Iraqi heel turn.

[Kris P Lettus]

Ric Flair is the only right answer

[Kris P Lettus]

Also, honorable mention, The Outsiders

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Heenan's best heel work was far behind him by 1988.

He was a heat magnet in the 70s and early 80s.

Having said that I'll go with him as my choice anyway.

Say what you like, but he was still a brilliant heel Mr. Wrestling Hipster.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He DID have that fucking amazing run with Flair and Perfect. Probably the most likable heel trifecta in my life time.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also Jeff Jarrett if for nothing more than calling people Slapnuts.

[Kris P Lettus]

Jeff Jarrett is the Owen brown of the pro wrestling world

[Seth82]

Say what you like, but he was still a brilliant heel Mr. Wrestling Hipster.

lol I still picked him as the best heel.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Jeff Jarrett is the Owen brown of the pro wrestling world

Fuck you. Jarrett was amazing in WCW and when he was beating up Chyna in WWE.

[Kris P Lettus]

I really don't understand some of yr choices

Stone Cold was meant to be a heel but was always a face and made the antiface a popular thing in the mid to late 90s


Tazz was never a heel during that time. People hated him before that when he was the tazmaniac, but during that time he was fueding with the triple threat who were uberheels. His fued with tajiri was more of a face vs face fued

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Austin would have been such a fucking awesome heel playing his same anti face against Hogan at any point during Hogan's peak of popularity. Just a foul mouth beer swilling badass against America's sweetheart. Would have been money.

[Theo Dious]

Vince was the sperm that fertilized the egg that grew into the Attitude Era which saved wrestling.

[Theo Dious]

Austin would have been such a fucking awesome heel playing his same anti face against Hogan at any point during Hogan's peak of popularity. Just a foul mouth beer swilling badass against America's sweetheart. Would have been money.

At that time they never would have gone with that. They pulled Jake out of a program with Hogan because Jake was getting mad face reaction.

[Theo Dious]

I really don't understand some of yr choices

Stone Cold was meant to be a heel but was always a face and made the antiface a popular thing in the mid to late 90s


Tazz was never a heel during that time. People hated him before that when he was the tazmaniac, but during that time he was fueding with the triple threat who were uberheels. His fued with tajiri was more of a face vs face fued

Beating up Chyna is the only good thing Jarrett has ever done in his life.

[road doggy dogg]

Dan Scott

[scatterbrain28]

Also Jeff Jarrett if for nothing more than calling people Slapnuts.

When a TNA announcer said that he'd pop his grandma to win the title, I believed him.

[Hanso Amore]

Hogan was a horrible heel because a heel is supposed to not be selfish. He was a heel and only he got over. Fuck him brother. JBL got Cena over huge. Hogan never gave anybody that kinda rub.

Oh fuck you. This is ridiculous.

Hogan sold big PPVs with Piper for fuck sake. He put over Goldberg, he got Lex Luger back over as a main event face, and lets not forget Sting was the most over face in the world going after hogan.

Meanwhile Cena was ALREADY THE NEXT HOT STAR. That JBL feud did nothing for him. He just happened to be the one to end it.

[CWK]

Vince was the sperm that fertilized the egg that grew into the Attitude Era which saved wrestling.

That's debatable. IMO when Hogan turned heel in 1996, it was at a point where the whole wrestling industry had been down, both WWF and WCW were down on business and I think when Hogan turned heel and helped form the nWo, it put a lot of new eyes on wrestling in general and brought back old ones that had left as well. The screwjob in Montreal/Vince becoming a heel/the rise of Austin gave WWF a viable way to compete with WCW who had been kicking WWF's ass for about almost 2 years by that point.

I do think WWF did a great job of expanding the audience of wrestling in 1998-1999 by adding even more new viewers. Just saying Hogan and nWo started it all.

[JimmyMess]

McMahon

[James Steele]

I'm assuming you all know my answer. I've discussed this in quite detail before and do not feel like going over that whole spiel again.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Going to assume James Steele also votes for Dan Scott

[Heyman]

Vince McMahon by far. It's not even close.

[parkmania]

Lock Jaw's run as the Anonymous GM was EPICLY HEEL!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Oh fuck you. This is ridiculous.

Hogan sold big PPVs with Piper for fuck sake. He put over Goldberg, he got Lex Luger back over as a main event face, and lets not forget Sting was the most over face in the world going after hogan.

Meanwhile Cena was ALREADY THE NEXT HOT STAR. That JBL feud did nothing for him. He just happened to be the one to end it.

You took that post way too personally.

[Hanso Amore]

You took that post way too personally.

Pish Posh. His silly post was met with a inflammatory response. Dont read more into it than needs to be.

[Tony Revolution]

http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/punk1.jpg

[Theo Dious]

You took that post way too personally.

Some people get really pissed off when you point out that Hogan was a useless bastard for most of his time as a heel in WCW.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Of the limited nWo stuff I've seen, (don't get me wrong I HAVE seen a bunch, just didn't get WCW b/w 1996-late '97, have caught up A LOT on it, but wouldn't be an expert on the matter) much of the meat of it was best exectured by the outsiders/wolfpac vs WCW heroes. Hogan was good for some pretty great moments, but Hall, Nash and Waltman kind of kept things super fresh for that time period when they were hot. Had the whole freebirds aura going for them, and were white hot. They kind of used Hogan as a platform.

[Nicky Fives]

Vinnie Mac.... hands down, without question.

[Bad News Gertner]

How was he useless? His heel turn was probably the biggest event in history maybe next to the Screwjob. He took WCW to heights never seen in the company and played the insufferable bully character so well. He made Sting interesting, got good buyrates out of Piper, Luger and others. He was a tremendous heel.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Good argument by Gertner. Memorable moments were produced with Hogan as heel. The luger title change, that whole sting angle, when Piper put him out with the sleeper in that non title match (I'm pretty sure that's how it went)

But I think much like Gertner is the pulse of TPWW, the wolfpac (original, Nash, Hall and Waltman) were the pulse of the nWo.

[Bad News Gertner]

Without a doubt. Nash, Hall and Waltman were massive and from listening to Kevin Sullivan's Timeline of 96 dvd, they were even bigger. Hall came up with the Sting angle apparently, and the trio basically came up with all the ideas and kinda pushed Hogan into embracing the heel change.

[Bad News Gertner]

Btw, still can't believe WCW did that "non-title" at Starcade. Could you friggen imagine if they did that when the internet was more of a deal or if the WWE did that at Wrestlemania?

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, Starcade Sting/Hogan is still to me the biggest and most epic "event"/"encounter" that I have had the pleasure of being around and watching wrestling for. Then they ended it like they did.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think maybe the one difference between Hogan and the Wolfpac, was that Hogan was an actual dipshit heel while the other 3 were pretty much faces pretending to be heels.

[Kris P Lettus]

People here are full of shit

When Hogan came out at Bash at the Beach in 1996 and leg dropped Macho Man, it was the biggest heel turn of all time and no one saw it coming


Bet money that everyone here who are crying that it meant nothing now where the same ones crying to their 6th grade class mates the next day at school

[MoFo]

Jake The GOAT Roberts circa 1991.

F@gs.

[Bad News Gertner]

People here are full of shit

When Hogan came out at Bash at the Beach in 1996 and leg dropped Macho Man, it was the biggest heel turn of all time and no one saw it coming


Bet money that everyone here who are crying that it meant nothing now where the same ones crying to their 6th grade class mates the next day at school

Dude, people believed that the WCW was actually being invaded, that's how good that turn and storyline was. And this was in the mid 90's where people were pretty smart to wrestling.

[scatterbrain28]

Maybe it was a better idea to have the Rock 1997-1999 because people were chanting "Rocky Sucks" like crazy where in 2003, fans didn't know whether to cheer or boo him.

[Shadrick]

Thought there would be more love for HHH in here.

[scatterbrain28]

I'm surprised there isn't more hate for Raven. He did brainwash Sandman's kid and wife.

[VSG]

Thought there would be more love for HHH in here.

If Vinny Mac was not in there, I think he would have won.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can't really comment on all-time, but since I've been watching, the heel work of Chris Jericho and CM Punk has impressed me to tremendous levels. I feel like Triple H does deserve a mention too.

[Lock Jaw]

Surprised you didn't pick The Brian Kendrick

[Mr. Nerfect]

Loved The Brian Kendrick, but there's no way he was the top heel. He didn't really even get the chance to get that over. I think he could have been an amazing heel. Triple H could have made the kid at Unforgiven 2008 by dropping the WWE Title to him, even if he won it back very shortly after. It may have been a mistake, though, given that Kendrick's attitude got in the way of the awesome push he was handed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And when I say he could have won, I mean it would have made total sense in kayfabe. Kendrick's whole thing was that he played things sneaky and smart and was apparently a genius. He should have realized that a Scramble Match, being unlimited falls, could have been exploited by his darker nature. The match could have gone exactly as it did, with the finish seeing Kendrick blasting MVP, Shelton Benjamin, Jeff Hardy and Triple H with a steel chair. The referee rings the bell like mad, with each guy Kendrick nails with the chair technically becoming the tentative WWE Champion for a second. Kendrick then pins Jeff Hardy with a few seconds left and becomes the new WWE Champion officially. Ezekiel Jackson appears on stage and embraces the ecstatic Kendrick, who celebrates with his new WWE Championship yelling "I knew I could do it with out you, Zeke! I knew I could do it!"

SmackDown opens with the quirky celebration from Kendrick you'd expect. There are weird decorations up and Kendrick talks about how brilliant he is and how he's the smallest WWE Champion ever, making him the pound-for-pound best in history. He dances around with Ezekiel Jackson before Triple H comes out. Kendrick points out to Triple H that he knows Triple H better than Triple H knows him. You see, The Brian Kendrick was trained by Triple H's best friend and HBK gave TBK all the secrets to taking The Game down. Triple H goes after The Brian Kendrick, but Ezekiel does his job and takes on Triple H as Kendrick escapes. Jackson takes a Pedigree, but Kendrick just cockily smiles at Triple H.

Triple H wants his rematch for the WWE Title, but the SmackDown main event was already settling as being Kendrick facing Jeff Hardy, or something like that. Kendrick apparently planned ahead and made the challenge to Hardy after winning the WWE Title. The General Manager (I can't remember who it was at the time -- probably Teddy Long) is willing to give Triple H a match against someone else though. Triple H squashes that person and in the main event, Kendrick manages to defeat Hardy to kick his WWE Title run off to a good start. Triple H then attacks Kendrick after the match, but gets laid out by Ezekiel Jackson. Jeff Hardy saves Triple H from too much of a further beat-down though.

Kendrick vs. Triple H is confirmed for the next PPV, with Kendrick pointing out that Triple H needs to pin him or submit him -- and that Kendrick has the champion's advantage. In their match, Triple H goes to pull out a sledgehammer and Kendrick begs Triple H to use it on him and get himself disqualified -- but Triple H just grins and clocks Big Zeke with it. Kendrick shits himself and Triple H makes a comeback with Kendrick constantly trying to get himself disqualified. Eventually, Kendrick succeeds and escapes with the title, but Teddy Long comes out and announces that it's now a No Disqualification Match. Kendrick and Triple H then brawl around the ringside area, before Triple H either hits a Pedigree to win the title back or a recovered Big Zeke gets involved and helps Kendrick retain. That would depend on how things were going with Kendrick as champion and Triple H chasing.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol Noid hasn't been around in a few days and apparently is putting on a pot of coffee tryying to get his 5 paragraph posts in

[Lock Jaw]

Just had to mention Kendrick to motivate him

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Noid, you are beautiful LOL never change

[Bad News Gertner]

Hey Noid.

Danny Bashem.

[Heisenberg]

I bet he could promo someone to death