when was the last true work?

[NormanSmiley]

I ask because I can't recall so I bring it to you true geniuses.

in the PG era (and by PG I mean really bad writing& creative not the lack of bad words) has there ever been a legit work that threw the majority of people for a loop?

with everyone hollering that DB not in the main event is a work, that CM Punk taking his ball and going home is a work I'm asking if those people just have absolute blinders on to reality or if they honestly feel based on recent history that the top brass is capable of pulling off a work?

[Tazz Dan]

Eddie Guerrero's death is a work.

[NormanSmiley]

maybe at 14,000 posts you can start being serious and on topic, maybe

[VSG]

lol

[Tazz Dan]

maybe at 14,000 posts you can start being serious and on topic, maybe

Maybe at 500 posts you'll understand how this place works.

[Swiss Ultimate]

BOOYAH! You tell him, Tazz.

[NormanSmiley]

I know fuck me right? looking to talk the business and analysis with other like minded people instead of fag jokes and high school sarcasm

[CSL]

pro wrestling is a work buddy

[Kingofdaswing]

Montreal Screw Job

[Tazz Dan]

lol calm down buddy. The reply was made in good humor, not to ruin your thread.

[NormanSmiley]

to repent Tazz Dan I would like one on topic response to this sir! and then more sarcasm

[NormanSmiley]

so it's been 16-17 years since the last work is what you are saying? and people still believe that its possible this whole storyline is?

[CSL]

what storyline?

[Innovator]

Everything is a work. When it's a shoot, it's a work.

[BigCrippyZ]

It's pretty simple. Everything is a work, especially works, but also shoots are works. Except when shoots are not works and then they're shoots. Also works are not works when works are shoots.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you suggesting some of this stuff is pre-written and then played out in order to entertain an audience? Sounds a bit far fetched to me.

[BigCrippyZ]

Seriously though, it depends on your definition of the majority of people. The majority of the population who's aware of wrestling? The majority of current and past WWE fans? The majority of current WWE fans? The majority of marks? Smarks?

I'd say it's probably been at least 10+ years though.

[BigCrippyZ]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you suggesting some of this stuff is pre-written and then played out in order to entertain an audience? Sounds a bit far fetched to me.

:wtf: :?: You just totally blew my mind hole!

And in all the right ways! :naughty:

[NormanSmiley]

It's pretty simple. Everything is a work, especially works, but also shoots are works. Except when shoots are not works and then they're shoots. Also works are not works when works are shoots.


I literally can't stop laughing at how funny this is

but to clarify because I guess reading the first post was not worded correctly..


the % of people on here saying that WWE is swerving everyone with the DB not main eventing, Punk quitting is all planned out work and we are all going to be pleasantly surprised come mania when its DB winning the belt.

I posed the question of...when is the last time the WWE actually pulled off something that elaborate and thoughtout that would make anyone think there was a .00000000004% chance it could be that

[Swiss Ultimate]

The last work, in my opinion, was John Cena calling out The Rock in interviews and criticizing his post-wrestling career.

[XL]

Seems to me that it's just instinct now to call a work. Better to erroneously call it a work and for it to turn out real than the other way round.

[BigCrippyZ]

I literally can't stop laughing at how funny this is

but to clarify because I guess reading the first post was not worded correctly..


the % of people on here saying that WWE is swerving everyone with the DB not main eventing, Punk quitting is all planned out work and we are all going to be pleasantly surprised come mania when its DB winning the belt.

I posed the question of...when is the last time the WWE actually pulled off something that elaborate and thoughtout that would make anyone think there was a .00000000004% chance it could be that

I don't think they've EVER done something truly that elaborate and there's NO reason to think they've all of a sudden had the creative genius to pull it off, let alone they're going to be able to execute it effectively.

It doesn't mean it's not possible, just not very likely, especially given their history in the last 10 years.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I would be so thrilled with it being a work, I'd be like "WOW THEY GET IT" and blown away, but I have no reason at all to believe it actually is. Because I would love to get worked... I would love to be worked as a mark, it's the whole point of wrestling.

Those calling work are people who like to feel as though they're on the "in" and are the smartest people in the room. There is no reason to believe that the Bryan/Punk and whatever else kind of stuff is a work, considering these are the same people that booked the Bryan/Orton feud only a few months ago.

[CSL]

I'm not even sure what "Bryan not main eventing being a work" actually means

[BigCrippyZ]

I'm not even sure what "Bryan not main eventing being a work" actually means

I think he meant that WWE realize DB's popularity and intentionally didn't put him in the Rumble, randomly put him in a feud with Bray Wyatt and then just as quickly dropped the feud and are poorly dragging out his chase and eventual title win at WM, as if it was WWE's brilliant master plan all along that they planned months ago.

They have NEVER planned and effectively written and pulled off something that elaborate and there's almost NO reason to believe they're all of a sudden capable and are going to do it now.

That's not even mentioning the Punk leaving WWE thing is also a work.

I'd love it to be the case and they actually pull it off, but given their history, it's not very likely.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

What BCZ said.

[NormanSmiley]

Thank you fellas for translating what I meant to csl. You guys worded it perfect

[CSL]

I think he meant that WWE realize DB's popularity and intentionally didn't put him in the Rumble, randomly put him in a feud with Bray Wyatt and then just as quickly dropped the feud and are poorly dragging out his chase and eventual title win at WM, as if it was WWE's brilliant master plan all along that they planned months ago.

has anybody claimed that to be the case?

[Theo Dious]

I think the answer to this is Mark Henry's fake retirement. That was rumored to be legit, and then he suddenly appeared to announce it... and then he flattened Cena.

Also pretty much every time Cena is injured they're like "OMGZ HE WIL BE OUT FOR A HOLE YEAR" then he shows up a month later.

[BigCrippyZ]

has anybody claimed that to be the case?

I don't want to put words in others mouths, but if I'm not mistaken, it was my understanding that Heyman and #1-WWF-Fan were basically claiming (or hoping) this was the case, at least to some degree.

Again, that doesn't even include the folks I've seen claiming the Punk quitting WWE is also work and part of some kind of big master plan.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Also, The Fraze thinks it's a work.

[#1-norm-fan]

Hmm. I think you misunderstood me, Crippy.

[NormanSmiley]

He man said it and then some yanker made some post that he's positive its all a master plan at work

[CSL]

bloody yankers

[FourFifty]

pro wrestling is a work buddy

Everything is a work. When it's a shoot, it's a work.

It's pretty simple. Everything is a work, especially works, but also shoots are works. Except when shoots are not works and then they're shoots. Also works are not works when works are shoots.

Seems to me that it's just instinct now to call a work. Better to erroneously call it a work and for it to turn out real than the other way round.

Also, The Fraze thinks it's a work.

bloody yankers

Literally everything that needs to be said on the issue has been said.

[NormanSmiley]

Don't kill my thread boner

[FourFifty]

That's BOner to you!

[BigCrippyZ]

Hmm. I think you misunderstood me, Crippy.

My bad #1Fan. I usually agree with 99% of your posts. Perhaps I misunderstood or I'm getting some folks confused.

I know there were SOME folks who were pushing the idea that it was all some elaborate work planned out months ago.

[#1-norm-fan]

I definitely lean more toward the idea that they're in "damage control" now. I don't think they ever intended to have Daniel Bryan have a serious title run but they teased it so much that the crowds will take nothing less and now they're in a huge, fucked up situation where they need to give him the title before or at Mania or have something as big as a Cena heel turn to distract the crowd.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Everyone in here is a dick and CM Punk worked errbody after MITB that one time

[NormanSmiley]

All dicks have BOners

[Supreme Olajuwon]

They're all jealous of you man.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dazz Tan especially. He sent me a text massage before saying he was so jealous.

[FourFifty]

Yeah, jealous of the fact that he doesn't have cancer. #HeelHeat

[Tazz Dan]

Fuck you, you insensitive cunt.

lol, nah I can't even joke about it. Good call.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I am outraged on your behalf.

[NormanSmiley]

Jim Ross is in on this now too

[Tazz Dan]

On what? 450 making fun of my terminal cancer? Link?

[Heisenberg]

Do you need me to trash something Tazz Dan?

[Tazz Dan]

Also, I believe the last true work was when Matt Hardy got 'fired' from WWE, and came back to face Edge.

[NormanSmiley]

On the cm punk swerve. I wouldn't make fun of any health issues you have. I'm not a piece of shit

[Tazz Dan]

Do you need me to trash something Tazz Dan?

Not right now. Just be patient, and when I need you, you'll see the sign outside your window.

[NormanSmiley]

I would agree tazz Dan. Any clue if those writers are still with the compan ?

[Tazz Dan]

On the cm punk swerve. I wouldn't make fun of any health issues you have. I'm not a piece of shit

I expect people to make fun of it. Hell, I bought a new watch battery the other day and the shop assistant told me it would last me a year and cost me $15. Me reply was, 'Well that's a good lifetime investment'.

[Tazz Dan]

I would agree tazz Dan. Any clue if those writers are still with the compan ?

I have no idea. Would probably doubt it though with the turnover of staff they've had since then.

[NormanSmiley]

I feel they dropped the ball a bit on edge matt hardy angle but it was good still and would say that wasthe last oone

[The Fraze]

CM Punk leaving isn't a work.

[Juan]

Daniel Bryan getting fired in 2010 was a work.

[NormanSmiley]

^^^negative

[Swiss Ultimate]

I expect people to make fun of it. Hell, I bought a new watch battery the other day and the shop assistant told me it would last me a year and cost me $15. Me reply was, 'Well that's a good lifetime investment'.

I am always absolutely gutted by how well you're taking this. Anyone so brave is going to a hell of a loss.

[Juan]

^^^negative

No

[NormanSmiley]

On June 11, 2010, WWE announced that Danielson was fired from WWE.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-release_80-0">[80] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bryan#cite_note-release-80)</sup> It was reported by the Wrestling Observer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_Observer_Newsletter) that Bryan was released as WWE felt that Bryan's act of strangling ring announcer Justin Roberts with his own tie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necktie) during the segment on the June 7 Raw was too violent for their TV-PG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV-PG) programming.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-81">[81] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bryan#cite_note-81)</sup> Danielson noted that WWE apologized to him for his release, claiming that they "had sponsors they had to deal with"

[NormanSmiley]

Wikipedia can be your friend too

[Bad News Gertner]

Owen Hart's death was a work. He's just really good at taking bumps.

[XL]

On June 11, 2010, WWE announced that Danielson was fired from WWE.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-release_80-0">[80] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bryan#cite_note-release-80)</sup> It was reported by the Wrestling Observer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_Observer_Newsletter) that Bryan was released as WWE felt that Bryan's act of strangling ring announcer Justin Roberts with his own tie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necktie) during the segment on the June 7 Raw was too violent for their TV-PG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV-PG) programming.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-81">[81] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bryan#cite_note-81)</sup> Danielson noted that WWE apologized to him for his release, claiming that they "had sponsors they had to deal with"
That wasn't a work in the true sense of it. If anything they were working the sponsors not the crowd.

[The Rogerer]

has anybody claimed that to be the case?Have you heard of a site called TPWW?

[Brigstocke]

Tazz Dans cancer is probably a work...

[Lock Jaw]

Mark Henry's retirement. We all thought it was real.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah I guess that's true, that was incredibly well done, but nowhere near as elaborate as all of this would have to be.

[Emperor Smeat]

Does the Matt Hardy vs Edge feud over Lita's relationship count?

It started off as a real incident and then worked to be nothing more than just a storyline in the end.

[XL]

Again, not in the true sense.

This Punk thing will likely be the same. Punk legit walks, eventually comes back, they spin the real life incident into an onscreen angle and everybody goes "See, told you it was a work!!".