O.k, this is why I hate watching the WWE anymore

[Bad News Gertner]

"Monday March 3rd @ChicagoRAWcrowd
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Our goal is to be the voice of the voiceless. This is not just about Chicago. It's about a movement and change on 03.03 #hijackRaw"

Seriously, get a fucking life. Gotta love those Husky Harris chants. Bet they were all high fiving each other waiting for their moms to pick them up after the show.

[Heyman]

Personally, I *do* hope the fans in Chicago completely jack RAW.

1) It creates excitement and interest.
2) The WWE might actually wake up and not disrespect hard working full-time talents such as Punk by bringing in a 45 year old Batista......who has sat on his ass for 4 years.........to main-event instead.

[owenbrown]

I wonder how much censoring will happen on Monday? Half the show is probably gonna be muted because the guys in the production truck will likely be wearing out the censor button.

[Bad News Gertner]

1) It doesn't create excitement. It's a bunch of 30 year old virgins whining that they didn't get their way on a scripted t.v.

2) You aren't guaranteed shit.

[Bad News Gertner]

"hey we'll show the WWE who's boss by paying $100 to go to their product. That'll show them".

[Droford]

I wonder if they can just mic the crowd up less

[Bad News Gertner]

I wonder if they can just dump gasoline on them and set them on fire.

[#1-norm-fan]

"hey we'll show the WWE who's boss by paying $100 to go to their product. That'll show them".

That's why I fucking love the "Yes movement" shirts. The entire "movement" is based on people shitting on WWE for fucking up with their favorite wrestler and now those same people are giving WWE their money in order to express how disappointed they are in them. lol

[Bad News Gertner]

If there were chanting for Heath Slater to win the World Title, then my feelings would be completely different.

[#1-norm-fan]

Anytime now. After they jobbed him to El Torito, I'm starting to think WWE isn't planning on inserting Heath Slater into the title match at WrestleMania.

[Bad News Gertner]

They are just jobbing him out before building him up, just like they did with Daniel Bryan.

[Shadrick]

if this was for heath slater, you'd be cupping the balls, gerty

[Droford]

Heath Slater needs to take a 6 month vacation, change his look and get repackaged in NXT with a different gimmick. If it can work for Husky Harris, it can work for Heath Slater.

[Bad News Gertner]

I think it's obvious that Heath Slater is the victim of backstage politics by Hulk Hogan.

[Fignuts]

Personally, I *do* hope the fans in Chicago completely jack RAW.

1) It creates excitement and interest.
2) The WWE might actually wake up and not disrespect hard working full-time talents such as Punk by bringing in a 45 year old Batista......who has sat on his ass for 4 years.........to main-event instead.

Yeah that record breaking, 400+ day title run sure was disrespectful.

Honestly Heyman, despite all your weird shenanigans on here, you strike me as some one who works hard to honor his commitments. Kind of suprised you support Punk here.

I don't believe in walking away from a job unless it involves unethical and immoral actions on the employers part. To our knowledge that's not why Punk quit. He quit for the same reason he threatened to leave last time. He just wasn't happy with his direction, and the company's direction.

He should of at least finished out his contract instead of fucking over the company that helped make him so much money that he never has to work again.

Even Austin says his biggest regret was walking out instead of working out his problems.

[Bad News Gertner]

I don't get where people feel Punk is entitled to a main event spot. He's not entitled to anything. It's not real. This is like going to the circus and being upset that the seal with the ball on his nose didn't appear.

I remember watching the Del Rio vs Kingston match and the crowd chanting stupid shit, despite the match being fantastic. Just shut the fuck up or don't attend.

[NormanSmiley]

the only message they can send is halfway through the show is stage a crowd walkout. No way they could be organized enough to pull it off but thats the only avenue. chanting cm punk all night is gonna fall on deaf ears when they paid to do it. watching raw from a 70% empty arena would come across weird enough on TV that notice would get taken

[Droford]

they'd book on the fly and make the main event an empty arena match

[NormanSmiley]

^^ optimist

[Bad News Gertner]

the only message they can send is halfway through the show is stage a crowd walkout. No way they could be organized enough to pull it off but thats the only avenue. chanting cm punk all night is gonna fall on deaf ears when they paid to do it. watching raw from a 70% empty arena would come across weird enough on TV that notice would get taken

They still have your money. Plus it's fucking wrestling.

[Droford]

Trip the fire alarm to claim they had to evacuate the building.

If they didn't want to illegally do such a thing, just let the set catch on fire

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[#1-norm-fan]

Trip the fire alarm to claim they had to evacuate the building.

If they didn't want to illegally do such a thing, just let the set catch on fire


Yeah. Wouldn't wanna do anything illegal. So just intentionally start a fire in the building instead.

[Droford]

Use the Snitsky Defense

[NormanSmiley]

kick a baby?

[The Rogerer]

I don't get where people feel Punk is entitled to a main event spot. He's not entitled to anything. It's not real. This is like going to the circus and being upset that the seal with the ball on his nose didn't appear. This is like going to the toilet store...

...and they're all outta toilets

I remember watching the Del Rio vs Kingston match and the crowd chanting stupid shit, despite the match being fantastic. It's not fantastic. It's not real.

[Bad News Gertner]

Well the fake match they had going on was very well done.

[#1-norm-fan]

I personally would be pretty upset if I went to the circus and the seal with the ball on his nose didn't appear.

[The Rogerer]

SEAL BALL PUNT
SEAL BALL PUNT
SEAL BALL PUNT

[ron the dial]

Whiners whining about whiners

[Tom Guycott]

That's why I fucking love the "Yes movement" shirts. The entire "movement" is based on people shitting on WWE for fucking up with their favorite wrestler and now those same people are giving WWE their money in order to express how disappointed they are in them. lol

That's no different than the officially sanctioned "We Hate Cena" shirts.

Thing is, though, is that WWE is actually acknowledging this stuff. Once upon a when, they used to sweep shit under the rug and act like it didn't/isn't happening. Yes, it comes off as being "whiny" and "entitled", but when the guys the fans have genuine vested interest in seeing get derailed in favor of the next flavor of the day (next on this list, Russev... guaranteed he'll be gone within a couple of years after being booked like a monster like so many "impressive looking" people in his mold. Kozlov comes to mind immediately.) I mean, they pushed the hell out of the Fandango SONG after a bunch of drunks sang along on ONE overseas tour, for chrissakes!

As far as fans paying money for seats to shit on the product, they truly are entitled to it. If you paid money to see some wrestling on a show that's full of promos and skits, they deserve to be called on it. If you paid money and are sick of seeing Cena all the time, you can vocalize that shit in a collective "boo".

The only problem I see with the comment that triggered this thread is the idea of the so-called "smart" fans who just chant shit just to chant shit. It's totally different than stuff done out of love, like "Holy Shit", "You Fucked Up", or "You Still Got It" stuff reserved for those moments... it's annoying, petty shit like the people who still do "WHAT?!" when the context is long gone and they're just stepping on someone's promo. Or "Husky Harris" for Bray like we don't know. I get the intent behind chanting for Punk- especially in Chicago- but either he's really not there, or it's a total work and he'll show up soon. There's a difference between those coming to actually support CM Punk's "cause", but just about as many just like the idea of disrupting the show. Wouldn't matter what the chant was.

[Bad News Gertner]

That's what annoys me. Two wrestlers can be having a good match and some shithead fans decide to act like dickheads and chant "randy savage" during their match. Just shut up. If you hate the product that much than don't go.

I am a diehard Blue Jays fan, and when they were just half assing it, I didn't watch or go to games anymore. Wasn't going to waste my time. I didn't pay $100 for a ticket, pay for parking and food just to go crap on everything and ruin it for people who actually wanted to watch. It makes zero sense.

[XL]

You can't really compare it to real sports. These guys go with the express purpose of "being part of the show" and really the WWE encourages that mentality (e.g. Making a big deal out of the post-Mania crowd). They see crowds like that and want to replicate it even if they don't really understand why they're doing it.

It's all well and good booing and shitting on Orton/Batista because you have a legit gripe that you're bored of Orton as champion/upset that Batista has walked back into a main event role/annoyed that Bryan isn't in the title hunt/fed up that we're getting the same old shit, not pushing new guys, etc. however, it all falls apart when you do it during Wyatt/Reigns - two new guys they are trying to push.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That's what annoys me. Two wrestlers can be having a good match and some shithead fans decide to act like dickheads and chant "randy savage" during their match. Just shut up. If you hate the product that much than don't go.

I am a diehard Blue Jays fan, and when they were just half assing it, I didn't watch or go to games anymore. Wasn't going to waste my time. I didn't pay $100 for a ticket, pay for parking and food just to go crap on everything and ruin it for people who actually wanted to watch. It makes zero sense.

If they were really having a good match the fans wouldn't be chanting against it.

See Cesaro/Zayn.

[Bad News Gertner]

You do have that mentality to an extent: the 12th man, the Black Hole. Some sports teams fans are just shitty fans : my Leafs for example

[Bad News Gertner]

If they were really having a good match the fans wouldn't be chanting against it.

See Cesaro/Zayn.

Theyw were chanting against a very good match in Del Rio vs Kingston and didn't Christian vs Sheamus on Smackdown get chanted? As did Reigns vs Wyatt on Raw.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They only derail matches when they are the same old shit they shove down the fans throat.

Cena/Orton
Orton/Sheamus.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Theyw were chanting against a very good match in Del Rio vs Kingston and didn't Christian vs Sheamus on Smackdown get chanted? As did Reigns vs Wyatt on Raw.

Del/Rio Kingston, Sheamus and Christian have been done to death like the rest.

[Bad News Gertner]

Del Rio vs Kingston I thought was fantastic. So was Sheamus vs Christian.

So basically as long as the two wrestlers are IWC darlings then they can fight 10,000 times?

Ever think that the fans are just fucking faggots wanting to start stupid chants just so they can brag on messageboards or to their smark douchebag friends?

[Bad News Gertner]

They only derail matches when they are the same old shit they shove down the fans throat.

Cena/Orton
Orton/Sheamus.

Explain Wyatt vs Reigns? Exactly. Now pull your pants down and present your asshole to me.

[The Rogerer]

You can't take the crowd for granted or ask them to turn on a dime.

I will shoot anyone who starts a Husky Harris chant. I don't know what that is supposed to achieve for anybody.

[Bad News Gertner]

Cyber high fives from the internet

[XL]

They only derail matches when they are the same old shit they shove down the fans throat.

Cena/Orton
Orton/Sheamus.

Explain Wyatt vs Reigns? Exactly. Now pull your pants down and present your asshole to me.

....

The Wyatt/Reigns match was put out way too quickly, and it was still a "part of a team vs part of a team" match, that anyone could guess was going to end in interference.

[Heyman]

Finguts and Gertner,

You guys both makes excellent points, but here is why I do relate to CM Punk on some level:

While I agree with Fignuts that Punk has been given a lot and it probably was wrong of him to walk out, the fact of the matter is that he's an independent contractor; not an employee. He is free to do what he wants, and if he's saved enough money, then he can come and leave as he chooses.......especially when the WWE themselves have a tendency to treat their "employees" like chess pieces.

I also suspect that CM Punk isn't particularly upset over not being in the main-event. He has gone on record saying that this is Bryan's year. Punk seems to be upset over the fact that certain part-time wrestlers do not nothing for years on end, and then suddenly come back around the Rumble and end up main-eventing Mania'.

Punk doesn't have issues with guys like Taker, Triple H, and Brock (yet), but appears to resent how they've used Batista.

I honestly don't blame Punk one bit here.

[XL]

the only message they can send is halfway through the show is stage a crowd walkout. No way they could be organized enough to pull it off but thats the only avenue. chanting cm punk all night is gonna fall on deaf ears when they paid to do it. watching raw from a 70% empty arena would come across weird enough on TV that notice would get taken

There is 0 chance of that happening. At the end of the day we're all marks to one degree or another.

The guys in the stands chanting for Punk will be there til the very last second just in case he does make a return. Imagine being the guy that missed Punk's big return in Chicago cos you were trying to make a statement about him walking out/not being used right. You'd be like those guys that leave a sports match to beat the traffic with their team down only for them to make a miraculous comeback...and you walked away from that moment.

[Vastardikai]

I think this is the thing here: If WWE goes after Punk on this issue, it could easily give Punk the ability to pull a Raven. And he wouldn't be outside the statute of limitations, like Raven was.

[#1-norm-fan]

Explain Wyatt vs Reigns? Exactly. Now pull your pants down and present your asshole to me.

STD hears what he wants to hear. That Wyatt vs Reigns crowd was white hot and Ryback never got more than crickets until the audience felt guilty.

[Heisenberg]

I wish I was at a show where people staged a walkout, I'd get up out of my seat and take front row on and soak it all in.

Do I agree with everything they are doing? No, never had, but I can't invest any hate into something I make time to enjoy in this time of my life. I know Batista is not deserving of his "spot", but we haven't even made it to Wrestlemania yet and people are shooting their dicks off already. If the show is poop then by all means, crap all over it.

I've been to a fair share of RAWs to know that a full arena walkout is near to impossible. Not everyone is there for workrate and all that crap. I'm optimistic that a new era similar to the extreme/attitude era will come about again. I went to WCW when the WWF was at a low, TNA is a wannabe alternative with good wrestling, but no sense of staying with storylines. Something extraordinary is needed for them to pull anyone away from the WWE, I think that is why they are trying everything out.

[parkmania]

WWE has the fans over a barrel on the Batista issue: We booed him, so they turned him heel. Now our boos suddenly make sense, and Dave is seen as "uber over" in his role.


I continually refer back to this Vince McMahon quote: "Cheer me if you want. Boo me if you must. But don't just sit there quietly."

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Explain Wyatt vs Reigns? Exactly. Now pull your pants down and present your asshole to me.

It was pretty late in the 3 hour card and they were tired?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If the product was better thought out and engaging, these things wouldn't happen and if they ever did, wouldn't be a problem. The reason why good matches get shit on is because the rest of the product sucks, and the company is out of touch with what reaches the people.

[Heyman]

I honestly don't blame Punk one bit here.

Like if I was in Punk's position, why wouldn't I be thinking to myself,

"Well ok, I'm a pretty big star. I've busted my ass the last few years and guys like Rocky and Batista just waltz in and are in the main-event. Rocky might be justifiable since he was one of the biggest stars of all-time, but Batista? Why don't *I* just do what Batista did? Sit at home. Rest, recouperate, and then come back when the time is right for a huge Wrestlemania payoff. It's the American way. It's the WWE way. Why should I bust my butt for years' on end only to have part-time guys take over the main-event? Why don't I be like that?"

[Heyman]

If the product was better thought out and engaging, these things wouldn't happen and if they ever did, wouldn't be a problem. The reason why good matches get shit on is because the rest of the product sucks, and the company is out of touch with what reaches the people.

I agree to a large extent.

I don't think the product sucks too much, but this current 'Authority/Bryan' angle/storyline is quite possibly the most intriguing thing that the WWE has done in over 10 years.

At the same time, the WWE hasn't had this many promising young stars ready to ascend to the next level since 1997 and 2003.

I'd like to think that the WWE has some kind of plan in place to do the obvious thing, but it's tough to say how they're thinking right now?

Either they are trying very hard to be as realistic as possible while keeping the smarks and IWC guessing, or they truly are extremely retarded and out of touch.

These next few months will be very telling............and could be one of the most crucial months in WWE history.

[Damian Rey]

I honestly don't blame Punk one bit here.

Neither do I. I don't understand the "he should have honored his contract" stance at all. He's not guaranteed that money. He's also not guaranteed to work every show or get PPV payoffs. If Vince saw it necessary, he could release any wrestler, including Punk, and send them on their way. It works both ways, though. If Punk doesn't like where he, as a character, or the company is going, he has the right to walk out. Just like Austin did. Just like any of the guys on the roster do.

As far as the upcoming Chicago crowd goes, I hope they don't shit on everything. Really, outside of Batista, everyone else on the roster deserves better than to have their segments/matches hijacked. Hell, I even feel bad for Batista. It's not like he held the WWE for ransom, demanding a title shot upon returning. It was a decision made by Vince, Triple H and co.. If anyone should be getting shit on and their segments hijacked, it should be Triple H. Bats is unfortunately getting the brunt of it more so for what he represents than anything he's actually responsible for.

[FourFifty]

Can is IWC get off Punk's dick for a second and think about something here...

Punk left the company after he was set up for a match at WrestleMania and after a PPV payday. Was Punk over? Yea. Would a random return for Punk cause a huge pop? Of course. Is it completely WWE's fault that CM Punk didn't like how things were going so Punk took his ball like a spoiled child and went home? No.

CM Punk left WWE. WWE has reached out to Punk. Punk has put up a proverbial iron curtain because he is a douche.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He knows they will lie to him tell him things will be better and push guys like Daniel Bryan and he'll come back and then nothing will change. He's been given the runaround before and nothing changed.

He didn't just leave because he didn't like his spot in the company which is different than Austin. Austin left because of one match with Brock where he didn't want to go over with no build.

[Heyman]

Can is IWC get off Punk's dick for a second and think about something here...

Punk left the company after he was set up for a match at WrestleMania and after a PPV payday. Was Punk over? Yea. Would a random return for Punk cause a huge pop? Of course. Is it completely WWE's fault that CM Punk didn't like how things were going so Punk took his ball like a spoiled child and went home? No.

CM Punk left WWE. WWE has reached out to Punk. Punk has put up a proverbial iron curtain because he is a douche.

Put yourself in Punk's shoes:

You've busted your ass for years' on end gunning to be the top guy in the company, and then all of a sudden, some gay washed up 45 year old shows up after a 4 year absence and is gifted the main-event spot at Mania'...........not only at the expense of yourself, but possibly at the expense of one of your best friends' in Daniel Bryan.

In my mind, I would be thinking, "Why should I continue to bust my ass? Why not do what Batista did? Sit out, rest, and then around January of 2015 or 2016 sometime, send out a feeler to the WWE. Get back in the company - have a huge Wrestlemania match - get a big payoff - and then go back to doing dick all for the rest of the year.

If the WWE rewards this kind of stuff, and slaps the faces of everyone else that has busted their butts for an entire year, then why shouldn't I just be like Batista, Lesnar, Taker, Rocky, and Hunter?

[Nark Order]

I think the whole situation is beautiful, to be honest. The fans appreciate people that absolutely love and have a passion for the business. They can tell the difference between someone that loves what this is and somebody that wants a paycheck. The WWE can undermine their hardcore fanship in hopes of getting more casual eyes on the product all they want, but that doesn't mean that everybody has to be happy and just accept whatever they are given. It's honestly poetic justice.

Once again, they aren't necessarily in the wrong for wanting more money at the expense of hardcore fans, but there is a price to pay for everything.

[Nark Order]

You are shitting all over avid viewers of your product when you make 90% of what happened during the year not matter going into the biggest show of the year. You want to see people you've taken a journey with. Having all of these part time guys have the biggest spots at mania is basically saying "None of what you invested in matters at all in the slightest. We are going to do what we want."

[Heisenberg]

I think Bryan is primed for a 2-3 match set at Wrestlemania, I just feel like that.

The CM Punk situation will either die completely build-wise after RAW or he'll come back Monday.

If it is indeed Orton vs Batista then by all means I will help you all out and shit on it with you

[Heyman]

Wouldn't this be the best segment in WWE history?............or close to it:

On RAW is Chicago - Triple H accepts Daniel Bryan's challenge with the following caveat: The match won't take place at Wrestlemania since HHH doesn't respect Bryan enough............the match will take place TONIGHT. Triple H wants to put an end to the non-sense.

If Triple H wins - Daniel Bryan doesn't get a title shot for 2 years. If Bryan wins, he gets inserted into the triple threat match.

At the end of RAW - Bryan/HHH have their match. During match, Kane tries to interfere............but then CM PUNK'S MUSIC HITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Punk comes out, nails Kane, nails Triple H, and Bryan hits his finisher on HHH for the 1..................2..........................3.

At Mania', Punk goes against Hunter, while Bryan goes against Orton and Batista.

Think that would go over pretty well?

[Nark Order]

Even if Bryan gets his moment, was it really worth all of this? I mean jesus.

Jabba's "little Timmy" analogy is quite perfect.

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[Heisenberg]

Wouldn't this be the best segment in WWE history?............or close to it:

On RAW is Chicago - Triple H accepts Daniel Bryan's challenge with the following caveat: The match won't take place at Wrestlemania since HHH doesn't respect Bryan enough............the match will take place TONIGHT. Triple H wants to put an end to the non-sense.

If Triple H wins - Daniel Bryan doesn't get a title shot for 2 years. If Bryan wins, he gets inserted into the triple threat match.

At the end of RAW - Bryan/HHH have their match. During match, Kane tries to interfere............but then CM PUNK'S MUSIC HITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Punk comes out, nails Kane, nails Triple H, and Bryan hits his finisher on HHH for the 1..................2..........................3.

At Mania', Punk goes against Hunter, while Bryan goes against Orton and Batista.

Think that would go over pretty well?

I'd be down with that. My optimistic self is holding out for a change to the main event. That would be a changing of the guard if Bryan beat Orton/Batista. There's plenty of time for this to happen.

I'll consider Orton/Batista 1v1 just Rock/Cena part 3 and not take it seriously.

[Nark Order]

Honestly. This situation is akin to if you worked for an office and at the end of every year the top employees were invited to some exclusive all-expenses-paid corporate party in San Diego or something. You work the entire year, get the highest performance marks, are constantly praised by all of your other employees for being the best, and get employee of the day for 400 something days in a row... But then instead of getting the invitation at the end of the year, they give it instead to a seasonal employee who is completely ill-prepared for the job and is best friends with your boss.

Technically, they can do whatever they want and invite whoever they want. But it is a rather shitty thing to do. Not only that, but it can't really even be justified from a performance standpoint.

[Nark Order]

Or, maybe more so. You get invited but the seasonal employee gets exponentially better accommodations and stays in the presidential suite.

[whiteyford]

Even if Bryan gets his moment, was it really worth all of this? I mean jesus.

Jabba's "little Timmy" analogy is quite perfect.

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[XL]

Wouldn't this be the best segment in WWE history?............or close to it:

On RAW is Chicago - Triple H accepts Daniel Bryan's challenge with the following caveat: The match won't take place at Wrestlemania since HHH doesn't respect Bryan enough............the match will take place TONIGHT. Triple H wants to put an end to the non-sense.

If Triple H wins - Daniel Bryan doesn't get a title shot for 2 years. If Bryan wins, he gets inserted into the triple threat match.

At the end of RAW - Bryan/HHH have their match. During match, Kane tries to interfere............but then CM PUNK'S MUSIC HITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Punk comes out, nails Kane, nails Triple H, and Bryan hits his finisher on HHH for the 1..................2..........................3.

At Mania', Punk goes against Hunter, while Bryan goes against Orton and Batista.

Think that would go over pretty well?
I'd be happy with that.

Although you're working on the assumption that Punk would be happy with that; that his gripe is that guys who bust their ass all year round and are over like rover (Daniel Bryan) are being bumped for guys like Batista. I'm firmly behind Punk if he's going to bat for D-Bry, not so much if he's just working himself into the Main Event.

Don't forget, reports suggest that Punk wasn't happy with a match vs. HHH at Mania and that in part lead to be walk out. Would he come back to have that match on the understanding that Bryan goes into the ME?

[Shadrick]

To be real, I didn't fault Rocks part-timeness because it made great business sense and it was a match we'd never thought we'd see. Cool. They did two, that was more than enough.

Batista coming back for one Raw, then winning the rumble, when DB was that white hot was a bit of a head scratcher. Bats is no Rock, not even close. But hey, whatever.

I don't even care anymore.

BUT IF HEATH IS NOT ON THE MANIA CARD, SO HELP ME GOD...

[Bad News Gertner]

I think the whole situation is beautiful, to be honest. The fans appreciate people that absolutely love and have a passion for the business. They can tell the difference between someone that loves what this is and somebody that wants a paycheck. The WWE can undermine their hardcore fanship in hopes of getting more casual eyes on the product all they want, but that doesn't mean that everybody has to be happy and just accept whatever they are given. It's honestly poetic justice.

Once again, they aren't necessarily in the wrong for wanting more money at the expense of hardcore fans, but there is a price to pay for everything.

Lol and how can you tell who has a passion? It's a bunch of whiny fags purposely going to the show with the sole purpose of ruining it for everyone else.

[XL]

Kinda hope they troll the crowd by playing Punk's music only to have Barrett rise up on his podium to deliver some baaaaad neeeeeeeeewwwws.

[Savio]

Chanting husky harris accomplishes nothing. Fans actually dig the angle and are only trying to chant it to get themselves over.
Wouldn't this be the best segment in WWE history?............or close to it:

On RAW is Chicago - Triple H accepts Daniel Bryan's challenge with the following caveat: The match won't take place at Wrestlemania since HHH doesn't respect Bryan enough............the match will take place TONIGHT. Triple H wants to put an end to the non-sense.

If Triple H wins - Daniel Bryan doesn't get a title shot for 2 years. If Bryan wins, he gets inserted into the triple threat match.

At the end of RAW - Bryan/HHH have their match. During match, Kane tries to interfere............but then CM PUNK'S MUSIC HITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Punk comes out, nails Kane, nails Triple H, and Bryan hits his finisher on HHH for the 1..................2..........................3.

At Mania', Punk goes against Hunter, while Bryan goes against Orton and Batista.

Think that would go over pretty well?
The best thing for Bryan is for him to beat HHH clean and have HHH shake is hand after.

[Heisenberg]

Kinda hope they troll the crowd by playing Punk's music only to have Barrett rise up on his podium to deliver some baaaaad neeeeeeeeewwwws.

That would be evil as fuck. I like that

That tweet he posted around the time he left suggests he was legit about leaving. He usually posted in his gimmick format of not caring/comics

[Savio]

The biggest flub in the Daniel Bryan storyline was him not winning at "Hell in a cell" even if they wanted to do Cena vs Orton @ TLC, DB should have won at HAIC then lost at SS in a triple threat with orton and show. Wyatts could have interfered setting up that feud.

[Razzamajazz]

Kinda hope they troll the crowd by playing Punk's music only to have Barrett rise up on his podium to deliver some baaaaad neeeeeeeeewwwws.
kinda like when hbk had bret's music play when they were in montreal several years back. its on youtube somewhere

[Nark Order]

Lol and how can you tell who has a passion? It's a bunch of whiny fags purposely going to the show with the sole purpose of ruining it for everyone else.

I'm not going to take you seriously if you continue with your "lol everyone is a fag" troll mode. You sure are an odd guy sometimes. Lots of people aren't happy with the business right now and it isn't unreasonable for people to let them know about it. It was kind of nuts for them to ignore everybody in the first place, to be honest. And now they have a situation on their hands. This was such an avoidable calamity. They chose to caiter to casuals and that's fine really, but it doesn't come without consequences. They had to have known there was going to be at least SOME backlash for the Batista rumble thing and if they didn't, they aren't paying attention. They will probably make a bit more money for doing what they did, but now they have lots of angry fans to deal with. That's what they chose and now they have to deal with it.

[Wishbone]

If you "hate watching WWE anymore" then why are you still doing it? Take your own advice and don't add to their profit by watching their product and boosting their ratings. I agree with you that they'd be better off just not buying tickets or not watching RAW if they really wanted to make a difference, but if you're that disgusted by them chanting "CM PUNK" then you could just do the same. Besides, they paid for their ticket it's their right to chant whatever they want to.

[Wishbone]

Lol and how can you tell who has a passion? It's a bunch of whiny fags purposely going to the show with the sole purpose of ruining it for everyone else.

Ruining it for everyone else or ruining it for you? Those chants get going through huge sections of the arenas, man. Fact is a lot of fans loved Punk and want him back. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they should shut up. Oh and those chants aren't just from "whiny fags" or "30 year old virgins". Listen to them and look at the crowds and you'll see that their are plenty of people joining in besides the IWC. Besides, if you can't ignore them and enjoy the show for yourself then you honestly are the whiny one. Don't like the product? Don't tune in. I mean that's what you're telling them to do isn't it Gerty?

[Shisen Kopf]

My opinion on this is the correct one but you have to call my hotline 1-900-Rasslin. $2.99 for the first minute 99cents each additional minute. Get your parents permission and call 1-900-rasslin.

[Damian Rey]

I called and entered my card info. All I got was Tatanka's war cry, then got disconnected.

[Shisen Kopf]

You have to listen to that for three minutes before my report comes on. Keep calling.

[owenbrown]

the Shisen Kopf hotline? :shifty:

[#1-norm-fan]

It was pretty late in the 3 hour card and they were tired?

I guess that would explain why no matches late in a PPV ever have hot crowds.

...

[Bad News Gertner]

Here's why I have zero problem with Batista in the main event: Heel Batista is far and away the best heel in the company and probably the best heel in a decade. He's a better heel than Punk and his heel character is better than Punk as a face. He's also wrestling pretty much a full time schedule including the house show circuit.

[Bad News Gertner]

I'm not going to take you seriously if you continue with your "lol everyone is a fag" troll mode. You sure are an odd guy sometimes. Lots of people aren't happy with the business right now and it isn't unreasonable for people to let them know about it. It was kind of nuts for them to ignore everybody in the first place, to be honest. And now they have a situation on their hands. This was such an avoidable calamity. They chose to caiter to casuals and that's fine really, but it doesn't come without consequences. They had to have known there was going to be at least SOME backlash for the Batista rumble thing and if they didn't, they aren't paying attention. They will probably make a bit more money for doing what they did, but now they have lots of angry fans to deal with. That's what they chose and now they have to deal with it.

Yes the 5 percent that don't matter

[#1-norm-fan]

Technically, they can do whatever they want and invite whoever they want. But it is a rather shitty thing to do. Not only that, but it can't really even be justified from a performance standpoint.

It's pretty stupid to bitch and moan about the "top performer" from an in-ring standpoint getting a certain spot on the card though. There is no "he's earned it" in wrestling. There's only what's gonna make people tune in. If you're the "best performer" in the business (assuming your definition of "best performer" is putting on the best technical matches and not drawing people to tune in for any reason at all) but the company decides your appeal to the casual fan is limited, YOU HAVEN'T EARNED IT. There's a spot on the card for you. Your ability to put on great matches in valuable. Marks are gonna watch you compete and enjoy your matches and if the booking is right and the casual fan is invested in a build, they're gonna enjoy them too. You're qualified for all of those needs. None of that instantly makes you qualified to hold the title and be on top in the script.

Now maybe they fucked up and overestimated how much people would love Batista and his effect of bringing in the casual viewer. That doesn't justify anyone else deserving the spot. That just means they fucked up with him.

[#1-norm-fan]

Here's why I have zero problem with Batista in the main event: Heel Batista is far and away the best heel in the company and probably the best heel in a decade. He's a better heel than Punk and his heel character is better than Punk as a face. He's also wrestling pretty much a full time schedule including the house show circuit.

Do you mean specifically this main event? Because I definitely have a problem with him being in this main event. Mainly because he's challenging a guy who is also a heel... in the main event of WrestleMania. Leaving literally no one for marks OR casual fans to root for.

[Bad News Gertner]

I truly believe Bryan is going in.

There's no friggen way they'd end Wrestlemania with a heel vs heel matchup.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's pretty stupid to bitch and moan about the "top performer" from an in-ring standpoint getting a certain spot on the card though. There is no "he's earned it" in wrestling. There's only what's gonna make people tune in. If you're the "best performer" in the business (assuming your definition of "best performer" is putting on the best technical matches and not drawing people to tune in for any reason at all) but the company decides your appeal to the casual fan is limited, YOU HAVEN'T EARNED IT. There's a spot on the card for you. Your ability to put on great matches in valuable. Marks are gonna watch you compete and enjoy your matches and if the booking is right and the casual fan is invested in a build, they're gonna enjoy them too. You're qualified for all of those needs. None of that instantly makes you qualified to hold the title and be on top in the script.

Now maybe they fucked up and underestimated how much people would love Batista and his effect of bringing in the casual viewer. That doesn't justify anyone else deserving the spot. That just means they fucked up with him.


This is what they don't get. If it were up the group chanting at Raw thered be no Cena, Batista, Orton, Sheamus and NOBODY WOULD WATCH!!!!

Complain about Batista all you want, but his return did a 3.5 rating, higher than post Rumble, higher than Hogan, Taker return, and I'm guessing the highest rating since Raw post Wrestlemania.

[#1-norm-fan]

I truly believe Bryan is going in.

There's no friggen way they'd end Wrestlemania with a heel vs heel matchup.

I don't think Bryan's going in after how he made him vs. Triple H come off as THE match everyone really wants.

I honestly think, as crazy as it sounds, they might turn Orton face.

[Bad News Gertner]

I was thinking about that watching Smackdown tonight as well.

[Curd]

Heath Slater needs to take a 6 month vacation, change his look and get repackaged in NXT with a different gimmick. If it can work for Husky Harris, it can work for Heath Slater.

Heather Slater and Tyla Breeze: Ginger Transexuals!

[Heyman]

Here's why I have zero problem with Batista in the main event: Heel Batista is far and away the best heel in the company and probably the best heel in a decade. He's a better heel than Punk and his heel character is better than Punk as a face. He's also wrestling pretty much a full time schedule including the house show circuit.

I completely agree with this.

Hence - why I believe we'll ultimately see Daniel Bryan in the main-event.

Orton by himself, won't be a strong enough face even if the WWE somehow tries to position him that way after all these months.

[Bad News Gertner]

I would be shocked if it wasn't Orton vs Batista vs Bryan.

[#1-norm-fan]

I feel like Batista is being shit on so much right now and is so good at being a douchebag that with the right booking they could make the crowd go from shitting on the match to shitting specifically on Batista and wanting so badly to see Mr. "Deal with it" lose that they actually get invested in the outcome of the match. I mean... it wasn't that long ago that Orton was over and getting the crowd hot for him while he was involved in nothing more than meaningless matches with guys like Jack Swagger. If they turn him face and have him stand across the ring as the only guy stopping Batista from going to Raw the next night and laughing in the crowd's face with the title held high above his head bragging, it COULD work.

But like I said, it would take good, meticulous booking from here to WrestleMania to make it work. I'm not sure they can do it.

[#1-norm-fan]

The first step would be trying to build Orton back up the best they can because the amount that he has jobbed over the past couple months is fucking retarded and doesn't make the guy feel like a champion.

[Bad News Gertner]

Based off Batista's promo on Smackdown he seems like he's going after Bryan. I like the idea of two heels fighting amoungst each other with Bryan going after both.

[Bad News Gertner]

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This is so far off. Jesus Christ. If Bryan wins the belt at Wrestlemania I highly doubt that people will be like" awesome he won! But wait,I'm not happy how he was booked during Summerslam."

Nobody will care. Nobody.

[Bad News Gertner]

If you "hate watching WWE anymore" then why are you still doing it? Take your own advice and don't add to their profit by watching their product and boosting their ratings. I agree with you that they'd be better off just not buying tickets or not watching RAW if they really wanted to make a difference, but if you're that disgusted by them chanting "CM PUNK" then you could just do the same. Besides, they paid for their ticket it's their right to chant whatever they want to.

So it makes less sense than "the WWE sucks balls so I'm going to spend $100 on a ticket, plus parking and driving there just so I can bitch the entire time".

[Bad News Gertner]

Ruining it for everyone else or ruining it for you? Those chants get going through huge sections of the arenas, man. Fact is a lot of fans loved Punk and want him back. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they should shut up. Oh and those chants aren't just from "whiny fags" or "30 year old virgins". Listen to them and look at the crowds and you'll see that their are plenty of people joining in besides the IWC. Besides, if you can't ignore them and enjoy the show for yourself then you honestly are the whiny one. Don't like the product? Don't tune in. I mean that's what you're telling them to do isn't it Gerty?

Yes, God forbid I can watch Raw without dickheads chanting "Husky Harris".

I like the product, so you're so far off. But continue not listening my 400 pound friend.

[#1-norm-fan]

Who is Little Timmy in that analogy? Daniel Bryan the man, Daniel Bryan the character or Daniel Bryan's fans?

If it's his fans and you're saying "they'd be happy to finally get their wish of Bryan as champion (the bike) but wouldn't get over the emotional scarring of having to deal with watching their favorite wrestler lose in the months prior"... then lol.

If it's Bryan the man and you're saying "he'd be happy to finally get the title (the bike) but wouldn't get over the emotional scarring his wrestling character went through"... then lol.

If it's Bryan the character and you're saying "He'd be happy to win the title (bike) but wouldn't get over the emotional scarring of being screwed out of it all those months"... then that would be a hilarious angle. Honestly, Bryan being a mopey little bitch and coming out the next night on Raw with a frown, sitting down in the middle of the ring with the title while the crowd cheers him and just taking the mic and saying "I'm too hurt to enjoy this. I'm emotionally drained. I can't share your joy" would actually make me want to see him as champion.

[Bad News Gertner]

"Sorry guys, just can't get over not being in the Royal Rumble. I'm a sad panda".

Sometimes it doesn't matter how you get from Point A to Point B as long as you get there. Christ, Vince thought he was going to be a face after screwing Bret. The situation was a mess and it led to the biggest angle in history.

[NormanSmiley]

smackdown provdes the answer, DB is going in the main event

[#1-norm-fan]

I wouldn't be THAT surprised if they put him in the match. But I have a feeling the confidence that some people still have that he's definitely going to be inserted into the match and not just getting his moment against Triple H is gonna provide some hilarious re-quote material in about 5 weeks.

[Shisen Kopf]

Batista is gonna to have the highest workrate at WM just you see. Then he's gonna change his name to "Main Event" Dave and will be in the main event of every event. Can't wait for that. Should make Bryan be his manager. After he shaves of course.

[#1-norm-fan]

Shave it!? I say he grows it out MORE and changes his name to Lt. Daniel Albano.

[XL]

kinda like when hbk had bret's music play when they were in montreal several years back. its on youtube somewhere

Exactly like that.

But the point of having Barrett do that is to draw the heat on to him rather than the crowd venting at the company and/or some other top face. This is what they should have done at the Rumble. Had Barrett come out as #30 with the baaaaaaad neeeeeeeewwwwws that Bryan wasn't even gonna be in the Rumble it'd have been far more effective than having perennial baby face Rey Mysterio getting shit on.

"Sorry guys, just can't get over not being in the Royal Rumble. I'm a sad panda".

Sometimes it doesn't matter how you get from Point A to Point B as long as you get there. Christ, Vince thought he was going to be a face after screwing Bret. The situation was a mess and it led to the biggest angle in history.

That's exactly right...if you get to the destination.

A lot of people are working under the assumption that Bryan doesn't get his big title win at Mania and that a win over HHH is a poor consolation prize.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Shave it!? I say he grows it out MORE and changes his name to Lt. Daniel Albano.

Was the charlie everywhere? YES!

[Bad News Gertner]

Exactly like that.

But the point of having Barrett do that is to draw the heat on to him rather than the crowd venting at the company and/or some other top face. This is what they should have done at the Rumble. Had Barrett come out as #30 with the baaaaaaad neeeeeeeewwwwws that Bryan wasn't even gonna be in the Rumble it'd have been far more effective than having perennial baby face Rey Mysterio getting shit on.



That's exactly right...if you get to the destination.

A lot of people are working under the assumption that Bryan doesn't get his big title win at Mania and that a win over HHH is a poor consolation prize.

Just taking a step back and looking at this logically: there's no friggen way they'd do a heel vs heel match in their Main Event. They don't even do that on Raw. I'm on board with Bryan vs HHH and if Bryan wins he gets put in the main event. Fully convinced this will happen.

[XL]

Yeah, I was skeptical until they drew attention to Batista's reaction on Raw. That was the "smoking gun" for me (not Billy or Bart).

Surely they can't turn Orton face? Can they?

[Savio]

I would laugh if HHH beats Bryan in a squash and he is demoted to house shows.

[Ruien]

Isn't a win over HHH better than a win over Orton (Who has been losing a lot lately) and/or Batista. This is HHH we are talking about here.

Why the heck does it even matter what place a person is on the card? As long as the match is as long as it needs to be does it really matter? I guess it may matter for the wrestler if being higher on the card gives a bigger paycheck but for a fan does it honestly matter? I would love for the wrestlers I want to see never be in the main event because then I don't have to watch the entire show.

This is a serious question. Why does it matter what place a wrestler is on the card?

[XL]

Sports analogy: do you prefer for your favourite sports team to get knocked out in the first round of a knock out tournament so that you don't have to pay attention til the end?

[Ruien]

Does not relate. This is fake and getting knocked out early means less games to be played.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, I was skeptical until they drew attention to Batista's reaction on Raw. That was the "smoking gun" for me (not Billy or Bart).

Surely they can't turn Orton face? Can they?

I seriously think they might go that route. I mentioned earlier how it COULD work. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for them to try it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't want to interrupt the flow of the conversation here, because I think it's pretty valid, but I do want to point out the irony of Gertner not liking the WWE crowds trolling the WWE.

[Fignuts]

Finguts and Gertner,

You guys both makes excellent points, but here is why I do relate to CM Punk on some level:

While I agree with Fignuts that Punk has been given a lot and it probably was wrong of him to walk out, the fact of the matter is that he's an independent contractor; not an employee. He is free to do what he wants, and if he's saved enough money, then he can come and leave as he chooses.......especially when the WWE themselves have a tendency to treat their "employees" like chess pieces.

I also suspect that CM Punk isn't particularly upset over not being in the main-event. He has gone on record saying that this is Bryan's year. Punk seems to be upset over the fact that certain part-time wrestlers do not nothing for years on end, and then suddenly come back around the Rumble and end up main-eventing Mania'.

Punk doesn't have issues with guys like Taker, Triple H, and Brock (yet), but appears to resent how they've used Batista.

I honestly don't blame Punk one bit here.

Key word: "Contractor".

He signed a contract. Made a commitment. A promise.

And he broke it. It's that simple to me. I don't disagree with his problems with Batista coming back, just like I didn't disagree with Austin's reasons for walking out. I disagree with how they handled it.

Nothing WWE has done (or hasn't done as the case may be) justifies Punk walking out and screwing them over before their biggest event of the year.

[XL]

Meh. The whole contract thing works both ways, or at least it should. When WWE can release you mid-contract why shouldn't you be able to walk out mid-contract?

[Bad News Gertner]

I don't want to interrupt the flow of the conversation here, because I think it's pretty valid, but I do want to point out the irony of Gertner not liking the WWE crowds trolling the WWE.

I detest trolls Anybody Thrilla. I may have trolled in 2011, but I've spent the last few years on a crusade against them.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

lol

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Would make sense that you hate yourself.

[Bad News Gertner]

It makes me a martyr for you the people's wrestling website

[Anybody Thrilla]

You're doing a fine job.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's a thankless job let me tell ya.

[Damian Rey]

Back to Heel-tista. Just caught a glimpse of his promo/match with Ziggler. If this is the quick right turn they've decided to take with Batista, then good on them. His last heel run was amazing. Fat girls everywhere better hide. Heel-tista's comin' for you!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope Batista comes out to CM Punk's music on RAW. The WWE could begin building up Batista vs. CM Punk as a money match, even if Punk decides he doesn't want to come back. Could you imagine Batista vs. CM Punk in Rosemont at Payback?

[Damian Rey]

Ugh...Bats coming out to Punk's music to open Raw would be amazing. Absolutely amazing. The amount of heat he would draw. What a great idea.

Punk/Batista would be a money match around Summer Slam, if Bats is available. I have no clue what his movie sched is like/when it's coming out. The promos between the two alone...

[KIRA]

Like if I was in Punk's position, why wouldn't I be thinking to myself,

"Well ok, I'm a pretty big star. I've busted my ass the last few years and guys like Rocky and Batista just waltz in and are in the main-event. Rocky might be justifiable since he was one of the biggest stars of all-time, but Batista? Why don't *I* just do what Batista did? Sit at home. Rest, recouperate, and then come back when the time is right for a huge Wrestlemania payoff. It's the American way. It's the WWE way. Why should I bust my butt for years' on end only to have part-time guys take over the main-event? Why don't I be like that?"

Well to be fair a good chunk of Punks frustration wasn't just for his spot it was for people like DB and Kofi

And really when the crowd shits all over a genuinely good match it pisses me off to no end.

[el bobbo]

If Batista comes out to Punk's music, he'd get hit in the head with a shoe.

[KIRA]

Back to Heel-tista. Just caught a glimpse of his promo/match with Ziggler. If this is the quick right turn they've decided to take with Batista, then good on them. His last heel run was amazing. Fat girls everywhere better hide. Heel-tista's comin' for you!

That was when Batista was fun to hate,this seems to be edging into X-pac hatred/genuine annoyance.

[Bad News Gertner]

Face Batista yes. Heel Batista is such a dickhead heel. He's really friggen good. His facial expressions, everything.

Honestly I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the WWE this much.

[KIRA]

Face Batista yes. Heel Batista is such a dickhead heel. He's really friggen good. His facial expressions, everything.

Honestly I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the WWE this much.

It'll probably take me a while to get into anything Batista oriented

The only heels I'm digging right now are Wyatt and Ambrose

I will say I'd love it if the Authority dumps Orton (as champ material)to make Dave their new golden boy but lets Orton stay on reminding him constantly that he blew it.

[James Steele]

Meh. The whole contract thing works both ways, or at least it should. When WWE can release you mid-contract why shouldn't you be able to walk out mid-contract?

They still get paid their guarantee if they get released.

[The Rogerer]

Key word: "Contractor".

He signed a contract. Made a commitment. A promise.

And he broke it. It's that simple to me. I don't disagree with his problems with Batista coming back, just like I didn't disagree with Austin's reasons for walking out. I disagree with how they handled it.

Nothing WWE has done (or hasn't done as the case may be) justifies Punk walking out and screwing them over before their biggest event of the year.Weeoo weeoo weeoo it's the contract police

[James Steele]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

That was when Batista was fun to hate,this seems to be edging into X-pac hatred/genuine annoyance.

Heat is heat. The more genuine the hatred, the better. Kill this noise once and for all.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Especially since they've gone ahead with the heel turn. Come on, son.

[Bad News Gertner]

He doesn't have workrate above 8.7 therefore his heat has not been certified by the FBDV of America.

[owenbrown]

FBDV? :?:

[parkmania]

FBDV? :?:

DLVH84? :?:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Batista is a natural heel and that's when he does his best work. He does not get "X Pac" heat as a heel, He gets heel heat.

[Bad News Gertner]

But he can't transition a dragon screw leg whip into a canadian destroyer!

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't know why I just pictured Batista in an X-Pac singlet, but you should all look into it.

[Bad News Gertner]

He's got everything he's ever wanted and he'll never give that back

[Vastardikai]

FBDV? :?:

I'm guessing Fat Basement-Dwelling Virgins?

[owenbrown]

Duh.... Makes sense now. I am such a dumbass. :nono:

[Heyman]

Batista is a natural heel and that's when he does his best work. He does not get "X Pac" heat as a heel, He gets heel heat.

Completely agree with Jewstead and "Bad News" Gertner.

Batista will be a tremendous heel for the WWE, and after watching Smackdown this past Friday for the first time since 2003, I am now on the Batista bandwagon and believe that the signing was a good one.

If the match at Wrestlemania is infact a triple threat, I'm hoping that Bryan pins Orton for the win.

Batista remains heel and then argues that he never actually got pinned. A few months later, heel Batista defeats Bryan to become champ.

Batista becomes the 'The Authority's' new "boiiiiii" and Orton goes back to being a face.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Bryan has to take out Batista too, imo. The fans need to see him overcome the odds and just win it all. Plus, it'd be a good fail-safe for HHH to make the Three-Way dance an elimination match. Kayfabe it'd be less likely for Bryan to survive the night.

It could work like Bryan getting double-teamed by Orton and Batista, then getting put through an announce table. They call a time-out and put Bryan on a stretcher and slowly start wheeling him up the ramp when a distracted Orton gets caught for the Batista bomb and the 1-2-3. Batista starts celebrating in the ring.

Bryan comes off the stretcher gets a mic, and reminds the ref that he never got pinned, never submitted (ref forgot to count Bryan out too). He gets in the ring and Batista dominates him for minutes at a time with Bryan getting only desperation offense in followed by maybe one or two follow-up spots. Ref bump. Triple H sends out Orton to save the title, Orton swings a steel chair and misses Bryan nailing Batista. Bryan dropkicks Orton off the apron, hits the knee, 1-2-3. Final Countdown begins to play as confetti falls from the sky and fans throw streamers into the ring. As the show fades to black a tearful Bryan grabs the mic and emotionally says, "I did it for you, baby. Daddy loves you."

The End

[#1-norm-fan]

It could work like Bryan getting double-teamed by Orton and Batista, then getting put through an announce table. They call a time-out and put Bryan on a stretcher and slowly start wheeling him up the ramp when a distracted Orton gets caught for the Batista bomb and the 1-2-3. Batista starts celebrating in the ring.

Bryan comes off the stretcher gets a mic, and reminds the ref that he never got pinned, never submitted (ref forgot to count Bryan out too). He gets in the ring and Batista dominates him for minutes at a time with Bryan getting only desperation offense in followed by maybe one or two follow-up spots. Ref bump. Triple H sends out Orton to save the title, Orton swings a steel chair and misses Bryan nailing Batista. Bryan dropkicks Orton off the apron, hits the knee, Batista kicks out at 2, gets up, hits a spear and pins Bryan. "I Walk Alone" begins to play as confetti falls from the sky and fans throw trash into the ring. As the show fades to black a smiling Batista grabs the mic and arrogantly says, "I did it for me, baby. Deal with it."

The End

Fixed

[Cuse8]

If Batista comes out to Punk's music, he'd get hit in the head with a shoe.

this made me laugh out loud mainly bc i could completely see this happening

[ron the dial]

i love that the location of tonight's show actually matters. pretty exciting stuff regardless of any of the speculation and dirtsheet bullshit. most of me wants punk to show up, but there's just a little bit of me that wants to see this crowd just absolutely lose it.

[ron the dial]

lol just thinking about how hard batista is going to get booed. great call to turn him heel. don't fight what's right.

[owenbrown]

lol @ the #HijackRaw stuff on Twitter :lol:

[Bad News Gertner]

So fucking stupid

[Shisen Kopf]

He doesn't have workrate above 8.7 therefore his heat has not been certified by the FBDV of America.

according to my wrist workrate meter--he registers at a 8.9. I bought the crappy cheap one not certified by the International Federation of Workrate, Serious Business, and Artistic Combat known as Rasslin'. Think I might need a new one.

http://0.tqn.com/d/walking/1/0/1/q/2/omron-hr500u-wrist.JPG

[ron the dial]

So fucking stupid
awwwww poor baby

[NormanSmiley]

Those frail ass wrists you got prove you have no workrate

[Bad News Gertner]

That's cute that the fat bloated cow was able to clean the bbq sauce off his keyboard to type that

[owenbrown]

I don't think it was bbq sauce he was cleaning off :shifty:

[ron the dial]

then what was it, owen? i'm confused :?:

[Bad News Gertner]

Read his next blog

[jbizness]

:lol: I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the folks who started the #HijackRaw shit didn't have 30,000 posts on a wrestling forum.

[owenbrown]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/s403x403/551077_757309410961103_149163044_n.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

:lol: I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the folks who started the #HijackRaw shit didn't have 30,000 posts on a wrestling forum.

That's an incredibly bad assumption.

[Mercenary]

I think it's obvious that Heath Slater is the victim of backstage politics by Hulk Hogan.


You leave the greatest of all time out of this!

[Tanawesome]

You leave the greatest of all time out of this!

I don't recall him mentioning Billy Gunn?

[KIRA]

That's cute that the fat bloated cow was able to clean the bbq sauce off his keyboard to type that


Am I Included in this FBDV category?

[Bad News Gertner]

No, as I enjoy your work.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm pretty annoyed that the Chicago crowd didn't enjoy Emma or the Christian/Sheamus match.

[ron the dial]

i'll put christian/sheamus on chicago being dicks, but i understand not getting into emma. they've done a shit job of bringing that character to the main roster in a way that allows anybody to understand the charm. it seems the majority enjoying it are those that watched it develop in nxt, and that's not a very large number of people. that might work moving forward since nxt is getting more exposure, but as of right now they have to work under the assumption that most fans have no clue who these people are when they come up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree with that assessment. I just hope Emma doesn't get the blame for the character not connecting. She is going way OTT with it though.

[ron the dial]

i'd imagine she's been instructed to lay it on thick, being teamed with santino and all. i really hope it's given time to develop and catch on before they pull the plug on it, though. one of the more unique diva characters to exist, and a fantastic wrestler as well. it'd be a shame to ruin that by hotshotting her character the way they have.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm sure she has been too. Good on her for sticking to the guns on RAW. Slow and steady should have been the way to introduce Emma.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm pretty annoyed that the Chicago crowd didn't enjoy Emma or the Christian/Sheamus match.

i'll put christian/sheamus on chicago being dicks, but i understand not getting into emma.

Agree with Chicago being dicks to that match but think it was more towards Sheamus and his recent booking than the match itself. Him vs Orton from the Raw after Mania 29 was the match that started the whole chanting rebellion to begin with.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Sheamus is really good. It's not his fault he's friends with Triple H.