PDA

View Full Version : So, In Kayfabe


Asmo
03-04-2014, 06:47 AM
Do SuperStars go up to the show's general manager / authority and ask them for time on the mic? And, hence, does the GM / authority schedule the matches accordingly?

Ok. Speculate. Any other kayfabe / wrestling tropes you simply can't provide a reasonable answer for?

Innovator
03-04-2014, 06:49 AM
When they make the main event on the fly, I assume in storyline that the previous match before it was supposed to close the show. So, if it wasn't for Cena and Bryan challenging people, Heath Slater would be main eventing.

Bad News Gertner
03-04-2014, 07:09 AM
Wouldn't that be amazing!

Hanso Amore
03-04-2014, 07:51 AM
Lol good point inno. In kayfabe they fly by the seat of their pants on a weekly million dollar show of a billion dollar company.

Hanso Amore
03-04-2014, 07:53 AM
I always wondered who in the back is making the call on when security comes out. Like oh shit lets see where this goes.....oh ok he's been put thorn a table, security go out there and break it up.

Bad News Gertner
03-04-2014, 08:36 AM
Who was part of this WCW Championship committee that Mike Tenay spoke of?

voncouch
03-04-2014, 09:19 AM
When they make the main event on the fly, I assume in storyline that the previous match before it was supposed to close the show. So, if it wasn't for Cena and Bryan challenging people, Heath Slater would be main eventing.

In that case, are all match contracts written like Mad Libs?

" (Wrestler) challenges (Wrestler) in (Place) on (Date) on the condition of (Stipulation)."

Innovator
03-04-2014, 09:50 AM
And how shotty are WWE contracts that they're made up, agreed upon, and signed within minutes. Do they have to be notarized? Is Brad Maddox a notary public?

#1-norm-fan
03-04-2014, 10:51 AM
When someone like John Cena does a run in, does he stop by the guy who plays the entrance themes on the way out or does the guy just sit in the back waiting for a guy to run by and then plays their music?

HTrain90
03-04-2014, 11:38 AM
When you have a really intense grudge match (like Shawn v Taker in the first cell match, or any number of other feuds that were decidedly personal in nature), how do the guys never run into each other backstage before the match - particularly at the Gorilla position when they walk into the arena within 3 minutes of each other?

Rammsteinmad
03-04-2014, 01:09 PM
How the shows and PPV's always manage to end in the allocated time slots. How convenient that the matches end, run in's take place etc, at the exact 3-hour mark.

Hanso Amore
03-04-2014, 02:14 PM
When you have a really intense grudge match (like Shawn v Taker in the first cell match, or any number of other feuds that were decidedly personal in nature), how do the guys never run into each other backstage before the match - particularly at the Gorilla position when they walk into the arena within 3 minutes of each other?

Security escorts them from their locker room like Goldberg.

whiteyford
03-04-2014, 02:47 PM
There's a heel and face locker room, the fact that when guys turn 99% of the time their past transgressions are forgiven/forgotten about by their new peers is something the UN should investigate as a possible way to bring about world peace because I can't explain why that happens.

BigCrippyZ
03-04-2014, 03:52 PM
Security escorts them from their locker room like Goldberg.

When I was young, this is legit what I thought happened.

BigCrippyZ
03-04-2014, 03:54 PM
When someone like John Cena does a run in, does he stop by the guy who plays the entrance themes on the way out or does the guy just sit in the back waiting for a guy to run by and then plays their music?

He's some scrawny wimp who's ALWAYS friendly with the faces and easily intimidated by the heels.

BigCrippyZ
03-04-2014, 04:28 PM
The fact that no one has been prosecuted or convicted of any criminal acts due to their outside the ring actions, i.e., stalking, assault, battery, breaking and entering, attempted murder, destruction of property, harassment, etc.

BTW, Godfather openly and in plain view of public discussed his engagement and activities involving solicitation and use of illicit drugs. He also was never prosecuted or even arrested.

Our criminal justice system is a joke.

MIZantine Empire
03-04-2014, 04:54 PM
How a heel champion doesn't leave the ring and get counted out in a title defense.. I always loved when the heel bitches about having to face someone, then wrestles the whole match..

Swiss Ultimate
03-04-2014, 05:00 PM
When someone like John Cena does a run in, does he stop by the guy who plays the entrance themes on the way out or does the guy just sit in the back waiting for a guy to run by and then plays their music?

XL
03-04-2014, 06:44 PM
Do SuperStars go up to the show's general manager / authority and ask them for time on the mic? And, hence, does the GM / authority schedule the matches accordingly?

Ok. Speculate. Any other kayfabe / wrestling tropes you simply can't provide a reasonable answer for?

Stands to reason. They'd also have to specify what they wanted to talk about. Otherwise, how would the commentators and graphics guys know that Cena was coming out to "confront The Wyatts".

JimmyMess
03-04-2014, 06:50 PM
There's a heel and face locker room, the fact that when guys turn 99% of the time their past transgressions are forgiven/forgotten about by their new peers is something the UN should investigate as a possible way to bring about world peace because I can't explain why that happens.

"I hate you and you hate me... but we BOTH hate THAT guy more"

Theo Dious
03-04-2014, 07:38 PM
How a heel champion doesn't leave the ring and get counted out in a title defense.. I always loved when the heel bitches about having to face someone, then wrestles the whole match..

To be fair on this one, there have been instances in the past of such tactics leading to threatened actions or stipulations. If someone intentionally gets himself counted out or DQ'ed, it can lead to a street fight of some kind where such things are irrelevant.

Theo Dious
03-04-2014, 07:38 PM
"I hate you and you hate me... but we BOTH hate THAT guy more"

Isn't that basically what happened between Hitler and Stalin before Hitler turned heel on Russia?

Theo Dious
03-04-2014, 07:40 PM
BTW, Godfather openly and in plain view of public discussed his engagement and activities involving solicitation and use of illicit drugs. He also was never prosecuted or even arrested.

Meh, people do this a lot. Prosecution and arrest would take much more investigation, otherwise he'd just be like "ha ha just kidding."

NormanSmiley
03-04-2014, 08:16 PM
when the wcw tv title would be defended on PPv bugged me

also the intercontinental title being defended on world tours

BigCrippyZ
03-04-2014, 08:35 PM
Meh, people do this a lot. Prosecution and arrest would take much more investigation, otherwise he'd just be like "ha ha just kidding."

True, but he was never even investigated and was on national TV every week!

JimmyMess
03-04-2014, 09:07 PM
Also in kayfabe, and its a question I've seen on here before. What ever happened to the rule of the champion having to defend their strap every X amount of days? It comes up occasionally in storylines but is never consistant.

Ambrose defended his belt in February, but when was the time before that? October?

Or AJ Lee?

what is exactly is the kayfabe "rule"?

NormanSmiley
03-04-2014, 10:36 PM
30 days was the rule in the 80s

Shisen Kopf
03-04-2014, 10:37 PM
Remember when Tatanka turned heel? Man that was intense. Tatanka rules!

Lock Jaw
03-04-2014, 11:17 PM
As a former general manager, I can say confidently that when I was running things, I had a rough outline for what I would like to happen on my shows.... but I would often manufacture situations that would result in me making the match "on the spot" so it feels "spontaneous".

Like I'd give an open mic to Face of the Month, fully expecting Heel of the Month to come out and talk smack... leading to me making the match I was going to have anyways. They are very predictable and reliable when it comes to this.

Curd
03-05-2014, 12:15 AM
Who was part of this WCW Championship committee that Mike Tenay spoke of?

In kayfabe, I presume JJ Dillon, Terry Taylor, and Paul Orndorff for the perspective of retired wrestlers, Dr. Harvey Schiller for an injury proneness perspective, and Doug Dillenger as Ted Turner's proxy. :lol:

Bad News Gertner
03-05-2014, 12:58 AM
Why did wrestlers continuously try and powerbomb Kidman week after week? It's not like they couldn't just watch the show.

Swiss Ultimate
03-05-2014, 01:28 AM
One I just noticed watching Lesnar F5 Henry. Why remove the monitors? If you're willing to hit someone with a chair and put them through an announce table, who cares about their safety?

Lock Jaw
03-05-2014, 01:34 AM
Brock Lesnar just hates monitors.

Swiss Ultimate
03-05-2014, 01:40 AM
"Write that down. I hate monitors."

Lock Jaw
03-05-2014, 01:43 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ENf9o6a.gif

whiteyford
03-05-2014, 01:43 AM
I remember a few years back there was actually a plan to publish a 'rule' book, wonder why they nixed that idea...

BigCrippyZ
03-05-2014, 01:53 AM
I remember a few years back there was actually a plan to publish a 'rule' book, wonder why they nixed that idea...

Creates too much "structure" they'd then have to "follow" or always consider when booking/writing.

Swiss Ultimate
03-05-2014, 01:59 AM
It'd be too much work for the lazy ass WWE writers. Heh.

They probably have their own writing guides.

whiteyford
03-05-2014, 02:15 AM
Also in kayfabe, and its a question I've seen on here before. What ever happened to the rule of the champion having to defend their strap every X amount of days? It comes up occasionally in storylines but is never consistant.

Ambrose defended his belt in February, but when was the time before that? October?

Or AJ Lee?

what is exactly is the kayfabe "rule"?

House shows:shifty:

#1-norm-fan
03-05-2014, 02:19 AM
Why is a camera always filming authority figures talking on the phone in their office? And why does someone always walk in and interrupt their conversation seconds after they cut to that camera?

#1-norm-fan
03-05-2014, 02:21 AM
Creates too much "structure" they'd then have to "follow" or always consider when booking/writing.

Maybe they'll figure out what structure is when they get to the "s" part of the dictionary. They're still focusing on working "abeyance" in.

#1-norm-fan
03-05-2014, 03:07 AM
By the way, Josh Mathews opened the Raw post-show last night by saying "The yes movement is in a state of abeyance." I was taking a drink of water right as he said it and almost did a completely unintentional spit-take on my laptop.

Droford
03-05-2014, 03:25 AM
The Yes Movement doesn't seem to be going anywhere to me. And if anything, whatever good happens to Bryan in the short term is more to do with the Walkout Movement anyway

Bad News Gertner
03-05-2014, 03:51 AM
We need a 3 Man Band Aid. I challenge each and every TPWW to make your voice heard and get 3MB into the main event of Wrestlemania in a match vs RybAxel and Tyler Breeze.

#1-norm-fan
03-05-2014, 05:25 AM
Sorry. Already involved in "the weird movement" to make Johnny Curtis WWE Champion. I can only focus on one movement at at a time.

This morning I had to forget about the yes movement, the walkout movement AND the weird movement momentarily just so I could have a bowel movement (AKA an Alex Riley movement).

Bad News Gertner
03-05-2014, 06:15 AM
If you are Pro-Choice, then you support the killing of Alex Riley.

XL
03-05-2014, 08:37 AM
Love me some wrestling tropes.

- Oddly, referees can only hear within their field of vision

- A referee shirt is like kryptonite to an active wrestler, where one move taken whilst wearing one can render them unconscious



-

JimmyMess
03-05-2014, 12:49 PM
Why does a camera catch someone getting hit with a bat but then they have to figure out what happened? Like they don't know buddy just got smacked with a bat?

I'm splitting hairs but whatever its Wednesday

whiteyford
03-05-2014, 01:05 PM
What metal are title belts from? Guys can take a bunch of chair shots but one clip from a title belt and they're out for the count.

Lock Jaw
03-05-2014, 01:10 PM
Why is a camera always filming authority figures talking on the phone in their office? And why does someone always walk in and interrupt their conversation seconds after they cut to that camera?

I can safely say I never had this issue.

BigCrippyZ
03-05-2014, 01:13 PM
Why is a camera always filming authority figures talking on the phone in their office? And why does someone always walk in and interrupt their conversation seconds after they cut to that camera?

You would think that the authority figures would at least have assistants/receptionists and security staff to prevent folks from just walking up to them or into their office.