Worst finsher EVER

[whiteyford]

Exactly what the title says, what do you think the worst finisher in rasslin' is? Be it from a kayfabe standpoint or otherwise, present day or, for Seth, the distant past.

Ok, go...

[Tazz Dan]

The peoples elbow.

[whiteyford]

What was the stupid thing Orton and MVP did when they debuted, was the generic finisher in the games for a few years, Overdrive?

[Wishbone]

Tie between Hogan's leg drop and the cobra. Neither have any real impact nor are they "entertaining". For a finisher to be good it either needs to have impact and look impressive like the Stunner or F-5, or it needs to be over the top and fun like the people's elbow or the worm. Hogan's leg drop was just that... a leg drop, and the cobra is damn near on par with the finger poke of doom.

[Wishbone]

What was the stupid thing Orton and MVP did when they debuted, was the generic finisher in the games for a few years, Overdrive?

The Overdrive, yeah. MVP still does it in TNA too. Calls it the Play Maker.

[Razzamajazz]

the big ending

[screech]

619, easily

[Stickman]

Angle Slam

[screech]

Tie between Hogan's leg drop and the cobra. Neither have any real impact nor are they "entertaining". For a finisher to be good it either needs to have impact and look impressive like the Stunner or F-5, or it needs to be over the top and fun like the people's elbow or the worm. Hogan's leg drop was just that... a leg drop, and the cobra is damn near on par with the finger poke of doom.

How is the Cobra not over the top and fun?

Also it's the best because no one has ever kicked out of it.

[Nowhere Man]

Gotta go with Hogan's Leg Drop. As dumb as something like the People's Elbow or the Worm might be, they at least did big impactful moves to set them up- the Rock Bottom or a spinebuster, etc. Hogan just did either a lazy big boot or a generic scoop slam before dropping the leg, and it never, ever looked good.

Rey Mysterio's splash is pretty awful too. The smallest guy in the company falling on you should not be a finisher. Hell, Rey and the other luchadores don't really need KO finishers, since part of their whole deal is they're so fast and tricky that they can just roll you up for the win before you realize it. Having him just know a billion ways to do a hurricanrana is enough.

[Heisenberg]

619, easily

That move hurts him and makes him look obvious. WCW Rey Mysterio was way better, not a better as Kanyon though.

I don't know if the Hogan Leg Drop should get the vote. From a young age I assumed he could crush the trachea of his opponent.

[Maluco]

There is at least a lot of fun with the Peoples' Elbow, The Worm etc... the crowd ate those up which made them good finishers in my opinion. Hogan's legdrop has become iconic and comes from a time where it was more realistic I guess. Hogan was billed as being 6'7, a big guy, so it was prob enough to stun a guy for the three count 20-30 years ago.

In modern times, hate the AA. It is just flipping a guy onto his back, and sometimes, there is no height to it at all. Seems like a backdrop should probably hurt more. When you are the top guy, your special should be memorable and provide memorable moments (Stunner), AA hasn't done that for me.

[Nowhere Man]

The 619 is a dumb move, but I don't think I've ever seen him pin someone off it directly. He always did something else for the actual finish- the West Coast Pop, the splash, or Dropping the Dime.

[DrCrawford]

About the leg drop though, it can be argued that they get their ass beat so hard then the kick finally puts them down...the leg drop would just be for show and added effect.

Either way, I always thought the GTS looked really dumb.

[Emperor Smeat]

The Overdrive

Been used by a lot of guys and always because Creative or they haven't thought of an actual finisher yet. More times its looked bad when done than good.

[Bad News Gertner]

How is Hogan's Leg Drop the worst? It was friggen 1984! Christ, a regular suplex was a finisher then.

I hate the spear, and the Bo Dazzler is awful.

[Corndad]

The Worm.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Bionic Elbow.

[Cool King]

the big ending

That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of this thread.

[Bad News Gertner]

Let's be honest, Bo Dallas is the next Bruno Sammartino, but the BoDazzler is terrible.

[Crippla]

The clothesline from hell is pretty unoriginal for a finisher even though it looked impactful when JBL used it.

[whiteyford]

Let's be honest, Bo Dallas is the next Bruno Sammartino, but the BoDazzler is terrible.

I see him more as a Karl Gotch type legend.

[Kris P Lettus]

Mandible Claw

[whiteyford]

I hate the spear.

The spear looks great when it's done by someone who looks vicious doing it, Rhyno/Goldberg type guys, Christian and even Edge hitting it as a finisher was meh.

[parkmania]

Mandible Claw

I see the Mandible Claw as being more credible than the Abdominal Claw.

[whiteyford]

I always liked the heart punch, as stupid as it is.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Gotta go with Hogan's Leg Drop. As dumb as something like the People's Elbow or the Worm might be, they at least did big impactful moves to set them up- the Rock Bottom or a spinebuster, etc. Hogan just did either a lazy big boot or a generic scoop slam before dropping the leg, and it never, ever looked good.

Rey Mysterio's splash is pretty awful too. The smallest guy in the company falling on you should not be a finisher. Hell, Rey and the other luchadores don't really need KO finishers, since part of their whole deal is they're so fast and tricky that they can just roll you up for the win before you realize it. Having him just know a billion ways to do a hurricanrana is enough.

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Leg drops hurt, dude. Especially from 300lb dudes.

Worst finisher was Foley's mandible claw before he got Mr. Socko.

[Theo Dious]

I particularly hate the Styles Clash. The setup for it is way too contrived and it has very little impact.

[Ultra Mantis]

Canadian Destroyer

[whiteyford]

Love the Canadian Destroyer, you're a monster.

[Theo Dious]

If the Canadian Destroyer actually destroyed Canada it would appeal to me.

[wwe2222]

Berserkers throw the guy over the ropes and win by count out.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Love the Canadian Destroyer, you're a monster.

The guy taking it does all the work. :n:

[whiteyford]

Doesn't make it any less awesome.

[dronepool]

Leg Drop.

[Ultra Mantis]

Doesn't make it any less awesome.

Picture Miz taking the move. No chance that's happening. If you can't even destroy The Miz with your finisher then how are you going to destroy Canada?

[whiteyford]

Damn your logic.

[whiteyford]

Not sure when destroying Canada became something to factor in though.

[Ultra Mantis]

A good finishing move should be able to destroy at least one country. Your better ones would be those that destroy planets or even solar systems.

[whiteyford]

Again, logic, curse you and it.

[Tazz Dan]

Hey whitey, speaking of destroying things...... Last night was amazing ;)

[whiteyford]

sonnnofaaaabitch

[Vastardikai]

Garvin Stomp

[#1-norm-fan]

Phantasio's magic underwear removal

[Graveler]

How is Hogan's Leg Drop the worst? It was friggen 1984! Christ, a regular suplex was a finisher then.

I hate the spear, and the Bo Dazzler is awful.

Plus, a 300lb guy jumping and his leg hitting your sternum is a believable way to finish someone off. Way more than the people's elbow

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I change my answer to Hyperdrive.

Earthquake's finisher by a non fat guy. Worst ever.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I remember when the Rock Bottom looked weak. Back before Rock really started getting air with it.

Iron claw was terrible.

Bionic elbow was cool, but why didn't he just do it at the beginning of the match?

Dudley's double-team neckbreaker. Just flip the guy over and hit the 3D you fucking idiots.

[Mercenary]

Tie between Hogan's leg drop and the cobra. Neither have any real impact

I love to see a 305lb man jump up, and come crashing down on your neck, and than say that it has no impact.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Samoan Spike.

[Mercenary]

Plus, a 300lb guy jumping and his leg hitting your sternum is a believable way to finish someone off. Way more than the people's elbow

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neck/head

[Nowhere Man]

Okay, so given the time period that Hogan came up in, I'll concede that the Leg Drop isn't the worst of the bunch; there are lots of finishers from back then that are mundane now.

DTTS may have found a winner with the Iron Claw, though. I don't think I've ever seen anyone make that not look idiotic.

[Wishbone]

I love to see a 305lb man jump up, and come crashing down on your neck, and than say that it has no impact.

If we're going by realism standards then 90% of the best finishers in the world wouldn't be all that great. The Rock Bottom? Seems like a DDT would be more devastating. Hell a suplex is probably as painful, if not more so.

Hell if realism is the makings of the best finisher then Big Show's WMD or Knockout Punch is the greatest finisher ever because it makes more sense than almost any of them considering that it's quick, requires almost no set up and in reality a punch like that from a giant would probably do more damage than just being dropped on a mat.

This is professional wrestling, not a real sport. A finisher should be judged by how much of a spectacle it is, not how much damage it'd actually do or how realistic it is.

[Shisen Kopf]

Umaga's Samoan Spike was pretty bad

[Shisen Kopf]

Tito Santana's flying burrito

[Wishbone]

Umaga's Samoan Spike was pretty bad

Damn, me agreeing with Shisen Kopf... what has happened to the world?!

But yeah, it was pretty dumb. On the same level as the Cobra... Well maybe a little more believable. I mean a thumb to the throat is still better than someone poking you with his hand in the chest while trying to do shadow puppetry.

[Tazz Dan]

The best finisher ever is clearly the finger poke of doom.

[KIRA]

Im split between Ultimate Warriors Splash and Hogans leg drop

[Tom Guycott]

If the Canadian Destroyer actually destroyed Canada it would appeal to me.

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[Tom Guycott]

What was the stupid thing Orton and MVP did when they debuted, was the generic finisher in the games for a few years, Overdrive?

Elix Skipper used it too.

Have to agree with the Styles Clash/Faith Breaker though. Even suspending belief, it's hard to see how someone slamming your knees into the mat will "knock you out" for the 3 count.

Unless it's a second/top rope variant.

To be fair, though, much like the worm, people's elbow, huri-chokeslam, etc., the setup (or teased setup for false finishes) is more of the payoff than the actual finisher.

[Bad News Gertner]

You have to consider the timeframe of the move. The Iron Claw was a good finisher for its time. Nowadays, not so much. Same as Hogan's legdrop.

[Bad News Gertner]

Damn, me agreeing with Shisen Kopf... what has happened to the world?!

But yeah, it was pretty dumb. On the same level as the Cobra... Well maybe a little more believable. I mean a thumb to the throat is still better than someone poking you with his hand in the chest while trying to do shadow puppetry.

I'm pretty sure if someone were to slam their thumb into your throat it'd hurt like a bitch. I didn't think it looked bad. It looked painful.

CM Punk's GTS is stupid. I like the vice, but the GTS looks retarded.

[Krimzon7]

dumbest finisher? The sleeper hold. Especially when they would slap your trap muscle to 'wake you up'.

Maybe I'm saying that I hated Brutus the Barber. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Gotta tell ya, the zig zag is pretty lame. Wish he'd just steam the Fameasser or the Rough Rider as his finishing move.

[Nowhere Man]

I know I don't have too much room since I just reversed course on the leg drop, but the sleeper? I mean, you do know that's a legit martial arts choke-hold, right? We can talk aesthetics versus realism all you want, but the sleeper is one of my favorite old-school finishers out there; simple to apply, obvious in what it does, and would still be genuinely effective if it was a real fight. Yeah, nowadays it's just another rest hold for the babyface to transition into his comeback sequence, but I'd still buy someone straight choking their opponent out for the win.


I'll agree about the Zig-Zag, though. If anything, I think Dolph should use that sweet jumping DDT as his finisher.

[Wishbone]

I'm pretty sure if someone were to slam their thumb into your throat it'd hurt like a bitch. I didn't think it looked bad. It looked painful.

CM Punk's GTS is stupid. I like the vice, but the GTS looks retarded.

It'd hurt, but enough to knock a supposedly "trained fighter" out for a 3 count though? But yeah, the GTS sucks. Seems like Punk could easily just shining wizard you and do more damage since the entire move is just a flashy way to smack someone's face with your knee. Hell the shining wizard even looks more impressive as a finisher. In fact, why don't more people use the shining wizard as a finisher?! I love that move damnit!

P.S. WTF is happening?! I've agreed with Shisen and Gertner both in one weekend! The world is going mad I tell you! MAD!

[Bad News Gertner]

It'd hurt, but enough to knock a supposedly "trained fighter" out for a 3 count though? But yeah, the GTS sucks. Seems like Punk could easily just shining wizard you and do more damage since the entire move is just a flashy way to smack someone's face with your knee. Hell the shining wizard even looks more impressive as a finisher. In fact, why don't more people use the shining wizard as a finisher?! I love that move damnit!

P.S. WTF is happening?! I've agreed with Shisen and Gertner both in one weekend! The world is going mad I tell you! MAD!

It looks like with enough force you could break a bone in some guys neck. I'll go use the Samoan Spike on an old woman tonight walking down the street and I'll let you know the end result.

[Fignuts]

Legit choked out a friend with the sleeper.

Dunno where all the 619 hate came from. Cool looking move. Doesn't have to make sense. 95% of pro wrestling doesn't make sense.

[weather vane]

Heart punch

[Krimzon7]

I know I don't have too much room since I just reversed course on the leg drop, but the sleeper? I mean, you do know that's a legit martial arts choke-hold, right? We can talk aesthetics versus realism all you want, but the sleeper is one of my favorite old-school finishers out there; simple to apply, obvious in what it does, and would still be genuinely effective if it was a real fight. Yeah, nowadays it's just another rest hold for the babyface to transition into his comeback sequence, but I'd still buy someone straight choking their opponent out for the win.


I'll agree about the Zig-Zag, though. If anything, I think Dolph should use that sweet jumping DDT as his finisher.

I know better than most about the sleeper, since I've tapped many times to the rear naked choke when I roll. I think I had the epiphany about me not really hating the sleeper as much as I hated Brutus the Barber Beefcake mid post.

[voncouch]

Berserkers throw the guy over the ropes and win by count out.

Why are we still debating this? This is the clear winner.

[Dukelorange]

Juvi Elbow

[Tom Guycott]

Legit choked out a friend with the sleeper.

Dunno where all the 619 hate came from. Cool looking move. Doesn't have to make sense. 95% of pro wrestling doesn't make sense.

I liked the 619 better when Rey Rey just used it as a rope dive feign and not an offensive move in an of itself.

Also, totally forgot about Berzerker dumping people out the ring. HUSS! HUSS! HUSS!

[Heisenberg]

Legit choked out a friend with the sleeper.

Dunno where all the 619 hate came from. Cool looking move. Doesn't have to make sense. 95% of pro wrestling doesn't make sense.

It is alright when someone knows how to sell it, but if you watch lately, some of the guys walk to the rope and just fall on it. It's sloppy, I would never fall for it.

I could salvage it for a dream Rey heel run, instead of the setup Rey can wait until someone is standing by the ropes and just drop the kick into their testicles and pan in on Rey having some mean sadistic look on his face as the area swells and causes the match to end. Cue the slowed down version of Booyaka and call it magic.

[DaveBrawl]

Always thought it looked awkward when anyone other than Kanyon did the Flatliner.

[NormanSmiley]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfliS8gl3tq26316VvDFceLbJsPwixBZcLsK7ItTUPiChrpJzoqg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=BUjgu-ZDU1JR4M&tbnid=nsfy392OBwW3kM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lucapoisonhallofshame.com%2F2010%2F12%2Fmean-gene-okerlund-il-wrestler-e-la-sua.html&ei=T5swU-j7F4mNrAGLtoCYCg&bvm=bv.62922401,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNHIFw9DqLvrul5EjAgC2npK2BtKrA&ust=1395780049664654)

[Swiss Ultimate]

This one is going to be controversial.

Falling headbutt.

I don't buy it. At all.

A real headbutt? Ow. Falling onto my shoulder or chest? Not so much.

DISCUSS

[whiteyford]

I always figured the guy delivering it would take as much if not more damage than the guy on the receiving end. Unless it's a Samoan, because wrestling has taught us that as a people they are impervious to headbutts.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I always figured the guy delivering it would take as much if not more damage than the guy on the receiving end. Unless it's a Samoan, because wrestling has taught us that as a people they are impervious to headbutts.

This is why I hate that DB does it. He mirrors too much of his stuff from Benoit who mirrored too much of his stuff from Dynamite Kid. Not really good examples to follow.

[Savio]

"Worst finisher to use in a real fight"

[Vastardikai]

I always figured the guy delivering it would take as much if not more damage than the guy on the receiving end. Unless it's a Samoan, because wrestling has taught us that as a people they are impervious to headbutts.

2 notes:

1. Really depends on the part of the head being used on what part of the body. When Cesaro was headbutting people in the face, that was fine, because that's actually a legit (and absolutely devastating) use of a headbutt.

2. There was an episode of Wipeout! one time that had the door knocker, which was a bit where they open a door and a big hammer would knock them into the water. A Samoan came up to that part, took the hammer to the head and kept running forward. My reaction was "Way to live up to the stereotype!"

[Savio]

Worst finisher was Foley's mandible claw before he got Mr. Socko.
I don't think he used that as a finisher too much.

[Curd]

"Miss Madness" Mona - Minnesota Twist, was basically an Oklahoma Roll into a Reverse Chancery

Nicole Bass - Testicular claw, really exposed her lack of wrestling ability

Chyna - Top Rope Pedigree, took forever to set up and only looked good when Jericho took it

[Swiss Ultimate]

I don't think he used that as a finisher too much.

He used it enough. Don't remember TOO many Double-Arm DDTs during that period.

[Savio]

He won his 3rd WWE title with one #RandomFact
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Did he use it to finish the match though?

[Swiss Ultimate]

"Worst finisher to use in a real fight"

Falling headbutt.

[Bobo]

Torture rack

[mxyzpltk]

Sarge's Atomic Noogie

Damien Demento's kneedrop

Nikolai Volkoff's clothesline to back of the head (1990)

Kamala's splash during his 1992-93 simpleton phase where he would forget how to properly pin his opponent and roll him over for two minutes before getting it right. You would think even a jobber could have mustered the energy to kick out at two by the time his shoulders were down on the mat.

[cnoslim]

Wade barretts wasteland

[The Condor]

GTS sucks, looks awful and Punk can't complete the move on everyone properly due to his size. I believe Glacier's "Ice Pick" ought to be mentioned.

[Bad News Gertner]

Curtis Axel's is awful

[Cool King]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BDqv4mIH8uk/UV2BTmSIzeI/AAAAAAABMpI/E5_mL3Nu5xU/s1600/e.gif

[Bad News Gertner]

Simon Dean used that move. Called the 'Simonizer'. Looked ten times better when he did it.

[KIRA]

Tie between Hogan's leg drop and the cobra. Neither have any real impact nor are they "entertaining". For a finisher to be good it either needs to have impact and look impressive like the Stunner or F-5, or it needs to be over the top and fun like the people's elbow or the worm. Hogan's leg drop was just that... a leg drop, and the cobra is damn near on par with the finger poke of doom.

The Cobra is a jab to the THROAT oh yea its damn effective.

[Vastardikai]

Forgot to mention one:

Sgt. Slaughter's Atomic Noogie.

[KIRA]

2 notes:

1. Really depends on the part of the head being used on what part of the body. When Cesaro was headbutting people in the face, that was fine, because that's actually a legit (and absolutely devastating) use of a headbutt.

2. There was an episode of Wipeout! one time that had the door knocker, which was a bit where they open a door and a big hammer would knock them into the water. A Samoan came up to that part, took the hammer to the head and kept running forward. My reaction was "Way to live up to the stereotype!"

The Legend lives on at 27:14
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[Tom Guycott]

GTS sucks, looks awful and Punk can't complete the move on everyone properly due to his size. I believe Glacier's "Ice Pick" ought to be mentioned.

To be fair, Glacier ought to be argued in worst ANYTHING that makes a list ever (finisher, ring ability, promo skill, etc.)

... except his Sub-Zero entrance. That was okay.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Without quoting anyone, Mankind used the Mandible Claw as a finisher ALLLLLLLLLLLL the frickin' time.

[DAMN iNATOR]

As a Zack Ryder guy, it fucking pains me to admit this but the Zack Attack is/was fucking awful. What person in any real fight would let another guy put his knee on their fucking face and grab your arms and twist you over into the ground?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Luckily, Zack Ryder doesn't need a finisher, seeing as to how he will never win another match.

[FourFifty]

I change my answer to Hyperdrive.

Earthquake's finisher by a non fat guy. Worst ever.

Yea, I'm thinking Hyper Drive also. Mojo doesn't have the build for that move, and the name doesn't make sense. If he's hyper he shouldn't have a finisher where he sits down.

[Rollermacka]

Yea, I'm thinking Hyper Drive also. Mojo doesn't have the build for that move, and the name doesn't make sense. If he's hyper he shouldn't have a finisher where he sits down.

Well, if we're talking "realistically" a 270 lb guy jumping high into the air and landing on your chest would hurt pretty bad. If we're talking "realistically", I would say the Heart Punch or even though I used it as a finisher.... the Iron Claw. I'm squeezing your temples till you pass out but you can't kick me in the balls or step on my foot to make me lose my grip so you can get loose :-\

[Sepholio]

Gonna just stick with The Worm here.

[Cool King]

Gonna just stick with The Worm here.

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[DAMN iNATOR]

450º Splash, or at least J-Gabe's version of it, seems pretty terrible. Guy could never seem to hit it quite right and almost always seemed to hurt himself on impact to his opponent, although I'm not sure if that's me or if he just way oversold it all the time.

[Tom Guycott]

But the point of selling said 450 is to make it seem more devestating. He's hurting himself to hurt the other guy more. Like with RVD's 5 Star.

And Gabriel landing it is far more consistent than John Morrison's Starship Pain.

[hb2k]

As a Zack Ryder guy, it fucking pains me to admit this but the Zack Attack is/was fucking awful.

So glad this got mentioned. What a fucking terrible move. Total indy "innovation" shit.

Paige Turner looks like a sack of ass as well.

[drave]

Paige Turner looks like a sack of ass as well.

You shut your filthy mouth. Any move causing the ass of Paige to turn is quite fantastic. :mad:

[Innovator]

Overdrive

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Hyper*drive

Your quote doesn't get fixed, IT STAYS FIXED!

[Road Warrior]

Currently- STFU, Big Ending, Bo Dallas bulldog thing, Neutralizer

All time- Overdrive/Playmaker, Worm, People's elbow

[Savio]

Lets be honest guys, did the worm really ever finish anyone?

[Bad News Gertner]

So glad this got mentioned. What a fucking terrible move. Total indy "innovation" shit.

Paige Turner looks like a sack of ass as well.

Matt Striker used the Zack Attack when he first debuted in the WWE. Called it "The Golden Rule.

[Bad News Gertner]

Suicide's finisher in TNA was the worst.

[Tom Guycott]

Currently- STFU, Big Ending, Bo Dallas bulldog thing, Neutralizer

All time- Overdrive/Playmaker, Worm, People's elbow

To be fair, how awesome or ass the Neutralizer looks is totally dependent on how well the person taking it can do so. In that way, it's kinda like the Canadian Destroyer.