Gotham (Fox Mondays)

[Kalyx triaD]

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[screech]

I'm intrigued. Also I'm a Benjamin McKenzie fan.

[RoXer]

I'm interested.

This and that gang/cop show with John Locke makes for a maybe promising summer lineup for FOX

[Lock Jaw]

I too am interested. Even though it is on Fox, which means it will get cancelled after two seasons max.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm thinking season and a half, after the viewership drops about three households.

[VSG]

TSCC :'(

[Lock Jaw]

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:'( :'( :'(

[Asmo]

Good trailer. Don't like the casting for Gordon though. Looks too bland, and normal. But maybe that's only because i'm used to seeing an older commissioner.

[Lock Jaw]

The show is about the origins of his mustache.... they will tease it a few times, but it won't be seen until the series finale....

[Kalyx triaD]

Gordon is fairly bland and normal looking.

[Jura]

Looks interesting. If the fans stick behind it then it will find success but if TSCC, Firefly and Almost Human are the examples of Fox having faith in comic book type/sci-fi shows then it doesn't look good.

[CSL]

looks promising, will probably be eh via most TV being eh. Bill Rawls tho

[Innovator]

Californiaaaaaaaaaa

[road doggy dogg]

I've never known Commissioner Gordon to be brooding

[CSL]

YOU'D BE BROODING TOO IF THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE DIED IN YOUR ARMS AFTER A CAR CRASH :(

[CSL]

actually had to look that up, thought she fell off a cliff or something :o

[Nowhere Man]

This could be cool, but more than anything I'm worried that we're going to get the Smallville effect, where everything happens out of order to the point where all of Batman's enemies are running around before Batman ever shows up.

[The Destroyer]

Topic title should surely be this "fall", right?

[Kalyx triaD]

Eh, I'll do it.

[Lock Jaw]

I enjoyed the pilot. Really dig the atmosphere and setting. Didn't really keep up on "the news" about this show too much, so it was cool to see Renee Montoya and Crispus Allen on the show.

On the whole, I'd say much better than what I was expecting.

[Boondock Saint]

Wasn't impressed...but I know not to judge shows off their pilot since they're shot months before, without a full writing staff, clear direction etc. I'll stick with it, see where it goes.

[Disturbed316]

Starts this weekend where I am, looking forward to it.

[Damian Rey]

Didn't enjoy it at all. Cluster fuck of a first episode. Just kept jumping from one scene to another. No build up or sizzle. Felt like they tried too hard to stuff as many characters in as they could with no reason. Catwoman just prowels around and steals for no reason, poison ivy is some kid with a scum bag for a dad, penguin turns heel after an act of kindness he begged for, and Alfred is seemingly an insensitive ass yelling at Bruce instead of trying to comfort him. Oh, and Gordon doesn't know Barbara, but she doesn't know him either.

I know it's a pilot but Christ could they slow it down and just let it burn? I lost interest about 20 minutes in. Unlikely I tune in next week.

[Destor]

A swing and a miss.

[Clerk]

Please don't tell me people are actually going to watch this. please.

[screech]

I enjoyed it, though it did move a little fast for a pilot.

[JimmyMess]

Just watched this. Enjoyed it, started off kind of shaky but it picked up towards the end, I'll continue with it.

[whiteyford]

Yeah enjoyed it.

[dronepool]

Thought it was gonna suck, hate that isn't part of CW but it was pretty good, surprised me.

[Mercenary]

I liked it. Well except for Penguin. He is to tall, and skinny

[JimmyMess]

maybe him digging into that sandwich at the end implied he will soon be a glutton and eat himself to fatness.

[Fox]

Only watched the first 5 minutes of this so far. Not loving it. Little Selina Kyle just happens to be there when Bruce's parents are shot? COME ON.

[Mercenary]

maybe him digging into that sandwich at the end implied he will soon be a glutton and eat himself to fatness.


Ya know I kinda hope so cause he seems off

[Nicky Fives]

seemed okay to me, need a few more episodes to make a decision....

[Ruien]

Seemed rather good. Will tune in again next week. Love the Penguin character.

[KIRA]

the post above me sums up my feelings

[VSG]

The guy playing Penguin is the only one who impressed me so far, I am ok with him not being fuller yet.

[Cuzziebro]

The second episode was better. Penguin is easily the best character at the moment.

[JimmyMess]

Just saw this ep. Immediate thoughts:

- Penguin is awesome
- Story is getting darker, cooler
- Selina's eyes are freakishly far apart
- Some hammy acting, but solid nonetheless.

[VSG]

Yeah, Penguin is the guy on the show by far.

[screech]

Another good episode. Really digging this show so far

[KIRA]

I have never disliked Bullock so thoroughly.

[loopydate]

Just saw this ep. Immediate thoughts:

- Penguin is awesome
- Story is getting darker, cooler
- Selina's eyes are freakishly far apart
- Some hammy acting, but solid nonetheless.

Oswald is definitely the highlight. I was struck this week by how much Selina looks like Michelle Pfeiffer. A younger, much more awkward Michelle Pfeiffer, but facially they're pretty similar.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, been thinking that ever since the first pics of her in the role came out.

[DaveBrawl]

Noticed that myself watching it last night.

[Destor]

just got caught up...so far im very underwhelmed. I'll give it till ep 6 but as it stands its very much on the bubble.

[Tom Guycott]

I have never disliked Bullock so thoroughly.

I feel the same way... except about Montoya. She just seems like an ass here.

But all things considered (especially to the detractors about Penguin not being fat), this islike, what, 15 years before Bruce goes all cape and cowl? That's a long time; time enough fo people to change into the characters we know.

But I will say Riddler seems a bit forced. He's not even in it much, but 2 eps in and he already annoys me.




Also, unrelated, and I'm sure it's just me, but Bullock and Fish's "relationship" reminds me of Officer Mace and Nightshade from that old cartoon C.O.P.S. and that is in no small way thanks to how they look.

[JimmyMess]

Finally was able to watch an episode as it happened. I thought it was another improvement from last week.

[McLegend]

It was pretty good.

Did anyone else hear the batman theme from the Dark Knight movies during the Barbara Keen/ Renee Montaya scene in the apartment?

Very possible I was hearing things.

[JimmyMess]

I didn't hear it. I'll watch tomorrow again for it.

[Cuzziebro]

Again another good episode. Could almost see Bruce's brain ticking over.

[Mercenary]

Bullock is great!

[ClockShot]

Watched the first episode today. Enjoyed it very much.


Had to laugh when I saw the ear plug in Penguin's ear. Pretty much knew the gunshot next to the head was coming. :lol:

[Destor]

This show is basically asking me to to be excited and go "oh hey I know that character from other mediums!" Like a live action where's waldo show. It fails to be compelling beyond that. Weather Balloon man? yeah, ok, that is in no way lame at all. im very interested. please tell me more.

I do like the subplot of Barbara and the lady cop.

[VSG]

Way better than Agents of Shield was at this time imo.

[Destor]

agents of shield was very terrible at this time, that of course has no relevance to gotham at all

[VSG]

Other than the possibility of things getting better once a show hits its groove. I can already see the improvement from over the few episodes so far, especially that ridiculous pilot.

[Destor]

Other than the possibility of things getting better once a show hits its groove. I can already see the improvement from over the few episodes so far, especially that ridiculous pilot.
Mutant enemy (the production company behind SHIELD) has a long history of adapting to the audience. So I was never too worried about it finding its niche (though I stopped watching it after 6 episodes and decided to wait for the DVD because it was unwatchable [it became excellent about ep 18 or so {yay blu ray!}])

Gotham however I dont know about their production crew. I dont know how perceptive they are. What I do know however is they had 22 episodes ordered and 12 were filmed before the first one aired so I cant expect any improvement (and their hasnt been any for me at least) until atleast after episode 12.

Im hopeful though that it will get better. Ep 2 was better than ep 1 but ep 3 was worse than the pilot (felt it was "holy shit" level bad monday.) Maybe it will improve, theyre working in decent subplots and once they let a few of them reach a boil (see: sweeps) maybe they will show their worth as writting staff but as of right this second the show is just a string of Easter eggs while a half brained plot barely moves along daring you to turn the channel.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Really strange in a show about Gotham before Batman and they have cell phones and shit. Isn't Gotham supposed to be the Roaring 20s when The Wayne's are alive? Looks like they want to do a prequel but don't really want to do a prequel.

Penguin is the man of the show so far. Can't get used to OC boy being Gordon. Gotham City here I come!

[wwe2222]

Really strange in a show about Gotham before Batman and they have cell phones and shit. Isn't Gotham supposed to be the Roaring 20s when The Wayne's are alive? Looks like they want to do a prequel but don't really want to do a prequel.

Penguin is the man of the show so far. Can't get used to OC boy being Gordon. Gotham City here I come!

Do you make the same comments about Batman movies that quite obviously don't take place in the 20s?

[Jura]

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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Do you make the same comments about Batman movies that quite obviously don't take place in the 20s?

The past looked like the past in Batman Begins.

[KIRA]

The past looked like the past in Batman Begins.

You're not really supposed to know what time period Gotham exists in hence all the anachronistic tech,buildings clothes,cars etc.

A few things 1.The reason Alfred gives for not getting Bruce to a dr. is utter bullshit

2. Oswald should be deaf in one ear seeing as how Gordon fired right next to his head.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Oswald should have stayed outside of Gotham for longer. Seems like he was never really away almost.

[Ruien]

He is critical to furthering the plot.

[wwe2222]

The past looked like the past in Batman Begins.

What? It looked like the past because it was the past and it was a flashback. If this show is still on the air in 20 years, this will look like the past.

[Simple Fan]

Well I guess Gothem is a state.

[VSG]

Penguin :heart:

[James Steele]

I've enjoyed the show. I'm not a hardcore purist or anything to the batman story so I enjoy the ride.

[Destor]

solid ep, I hope the trend continues

[KIRA]

My god Penguin is the master of the long game,but the great thing is I feel so bad for him even when I'm reminded that his harmless facade is just that and he is in fact a murdering psycho. I'm also warming up to Bullock seemingly episode by episode.

Fish Mooney is a cool addition
And then the Joker is out there somewhere as it seems Gotham is becoming a hub for freaks and monsters even at this early stage....I love it all.

[Lock Jaw]

Penguin definitely playing the Game of Thrones

[VSG]

lol yeah Bullock has become one of my fav characters on the show now.

[Kalyx triaD]

Just got caught up to episode 5. Kinda surprised they went into one of the more fantastical elements of Batman's mythology. This show may have some legs yet. Penguin is certainly the highlight. Interesting remix with Montoya and Babs 1, but I guess it makes it more interesting.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

My god Penguin is the master of the long game,but the great thing is I feel so bad for him even when I'm reminded that his harmless facade is just that and he is in fact a murdering psycho. I'm also warming up to Bullock seemingly episode by episode.

Fish Mooney is a cool addition
And then the Joker is out there somewhere as it seems Gotham is becoming a hub for freaks and monsters even at this early stage....I love it all.

You think Joker is in play? I figured after Heath Ledger that The Joker was shelved for a long time.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Well I guess Gothem is a state.

Duh Gotham City is New York City. City and State.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

My god Penguin is the master of the long game,but the great thing is I feel so bad for him even when I'm reminded that his harmless facade is just that and he is in fact a murdering psycho. I'm also warming up to Bullock seemingly episode by episode.

Fish Mooney is a cool addition
And then the Joker is out there somewhere as it seems Gotham is becoming a hub for freaks and monsters even at this early stage....I love it all.

I love Fish so far. The organized crime part of Batman usually just ends up being something the Joker or the other main bad guys just take over. It's cool to see the inner workings before they become the bitch of the inmates of Arkham.

[Lock Jaw]

Hot episode tonight.... really enjoying this show greatly...

[McLegend]

Donal Logue was tremendous last night.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Really great insight for Bullock. I think he must see alot of himself in Gordon or what he used to be before Gotham turned him into what he is today. Probably why he's pissed off at him most of the time.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I quite like the atmosphere of the programme, and as others have noted, Penguin is the most interesting character. I do like Sean Pertwee as Alfred, though.

[VSG]

Penguin being Joker-esque in chaos is boggling my mind. Just think that reveal to the police happened way too soon after the pace of the past episodes.

[KIRA]

Agreed. I thought the MCU would at least get to lock Gordon up with the show shifting to Montoya and Allen for a bit,plus what could penguin gain by putting so many people himself included in danger.

[Lock Jaw]

Penguin hatching big plans/schemes.... just you watch.

[Simple Fan]

Last episode was cool my name even came up a couple times. Raymond Earl is my first and middle names, so it was pretty cool to hear my name on tv.

[Lock Jaw]

Are you the spirit of the goat irl?

[Simple Fan]

If I dressed up tonight I would have to be the spirit of the goat and scare the kids that come to the house.

[Simple Fan]

Are you the spirit of the goat irl?

Why are you a first born child?

[Simple Fan]

Are you the spirit of the goat irl?

Why, are you a first born child?

[KIRA]

Penguin making HUGE moves. Gordon and Bullock ready to go out like fucking badasses. I LOVE THIS SHOW.

[Destor]

First truely great episode and I hope this show can churn an episode out every few months half as good as this one was.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Agreed, this last episode was the best one yet.

[Kalyx triaD]

Last episode was straight X-Files but this one was classy. Big things happening. Selina's a perv.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Dan Heyeda in last week's episode was great. Weird seeing him as a cop and not some sort of sleezeball. Well he might have been a cop sleezeball. Probably.

Perv? She's 15. Probably just stealing something like she did in the movie. Besides its not pervy if they are destined to be a couple. It's romantic stalking.

[VSG]

Lol just don't use "romantic stalking" to justify anything in real life.

[KIRA]

Lol just don't use "romantic stalking" to justify anything in real life.

If anything it'll just get your ass thrown in jail quicker.


Speaking of stalking I'm not so sure that's not what Montoya was doing with Barbra.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If anything it'll just get your ass thrown in jail quicker.


Speaking of stalking I'm not so sure that's not what Montoya was doing with Barbra.

Not sure she'd turn face to Gordon so quickly if she was trying to do that. She just thought her old girlfriend was hanging with a murderer. Although if she believed that I'd have tried alot harder to get them apart.

[KIRA]

I just meant she kinda seemed that way before she realized Gordon was a really good guy.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I just meant she kinda seemed that way before she realized Gordon was a really good guy.

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Well, she's a piece of shit still. I don't get it. Probably the show trying to be edgy.

[KIRA]

Well IMO it's Barbra who's pulling a dick move here

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Well IMO it's Barbra who's pulling a dick move here

Not really a dick move. amirite?

[KIRA]

:naughty:

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Touché

[KIRA]

Man, Selena was working HARD for that kiss
And I'm kinda surprised Gordon didn't punch Dent for the shit he pulled
Change of scenery is a nice interesting twist my first thought was "So is Gordon gonna deal with people trying to escape every week?

[screech]

I thought he was going to deck the mayor. He was already being demoted, might as well take out some frustration.

[KIRA]

You're right the Mayor deserved it way more

[Jura]

I didn't realize the Penguin was in the Walking Dead.

[KIRA]

GOTHAM is back and Gordon is working in Arkham Asylum infact thats the title of episode 11

And I think the song Sea Change is in it.

Gotham is so easily watchable its ridiculous

The warden is a huge asshole

Bullock comes in like a fucking superstar

[Lock Jaw]

Dude who escaped seems like he is supposed to be Hugo Strange.... but he is called something else....

[KIRA]

Dude who escaped seems like he is supposed to be Hugo Strange.... but he is called something else....

Yea I was thinking Zeus or Strange he might be an amalgam of the two

[mitchables]

bullock is amazing, quickly becoming one of my favourite current characters in anything

[KIRA]

He really is his Transition from unlikeable to gruff lovable asshole has been great

Also it seems no one is good for Barbra her two loves can't fix whatever is broken inside her
like I think she believes they can maybe its the city maybe its her.

[KIRA]

Electrocutioner confirmed

Falcone is a RUTHLESS motherfucker that I can kinda feel for.

James Gordon every woman he meets wants the D
for some reason

Barbra's parents make my skin crawl

poor poor Edward

[KIRA]

Torture....I think Fish is into it

Being tortured I mean

Heartbreaking episode in a ton of ways pathos of Fish Mooney

[KIRA]

JOHNATHAN CRANE!!!

[Nicky Fives]

So is Ms. Kringle going to die and launch Nygma into being The Riddler?

[KIRA]

Sadly thats what I think too poor guy.

Penguin has a horseshoe up his ass.
the bus back to Gotham would've had me longing for the car crusher

I was racking my brain trying to figure out who the guy with fish was then I realized he might be an OC.

[KIRA]

THE JOKER!??? I think it's too soon don't get me wrong I'm excited but it also looks like they dropped the original plan of having a bunch of red herrings all leading up to Joker appearing.

[Lock Jaw]

"Nicholson-esque" at the end there... but nothing really "concrete" to say this guy is The Joker.

I think they are supposed to have Red Hood coming in an upcoming episode....

[dronepool]

Ginger connection.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/S9Mv3A51EWI/AAAAAAAAMQs/ACH3V0-5cvQ/s1600/southpark-the-killing-joke.jpg

Loved Joker in this episode.

[KIRA]

"My mind is made up Alfred" Oh he'll be hearing those words with that attitude for a long ass time to come he just doesn't know it yet.

[rad dggy dg]

I wonder if Killer Croc will be in this

[Destor]

Good ep but if that was the joker they wasted him in a one off

[Lock Jaw]

Could always just say that he was "under the influence" of "Joker gas".....

Have them come up against more "Jokerized" people and realize that something is going on....

[KIRA]

Kinda like that idea...wait does Joker gas make you kill people I thought you just laughed till it killed you....but then it could easily be altered I suppose

[Lock Jaw]

Joker has "Jokerized" people in the comics before

[rad dggy dg]

it would be cool to see bane in this series too, a young bane

[Simple Fan]

They have already discovered the venom that makes Bane big in an earlier episode so he could show up later.

[Nicky Fives]

Really like the subtle circus references with Robin's parents.....

[screech]

Girl I went to college with played Robin's Mom

[Stickman]

The wife and I were really into the show but have completely lost that interest. I know a lot of shows follow the same formula every episode, but I dont get why every villain has to be so over the top crazy and weird, it is like they are zombies almost yet at the same time all these mob bosses are "normal." I dunno, if the show gets great reiviews for 4 or more seasons maybe I will try again.

[Lock Jaw]

Girl I went to college with played Robin's Mom

Thought she was "hot"

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Sadly thats what I think too poor guy.

Penguin has a horseshoe up his ass.
the bus back to Gotham would've had me longing for the car crusher

I was racking my brain trying to figure out who the guy with fish was then I realized he might be an OC.

So is Fish.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The wife and I were really into the show but have completely lost that interest. I know a lot of shows follow the same formula every episode, but I dont get why every villain has to be so over the top crazy and weird, it is like they are zombies almost yet at the same time all these mob bosses are "normal." I dunno, if the show gets great reiviews for 4 or more seasons maybe I will try again.

They took a extra long-time off between the half of the seasons. Sort of threw me off caring about the show.

[Simple Fan]

I don't know if that was Joker last week, this week has Red Hood.

[Lock Jaw]

Daaaaamn, Fish..... didn't see that one coming....

[Simple Fan]

Holy shit that was crazy.

[dronepool]

Was that TV-14? Damn.

[KIRA]

holy shit
Fish Mooney......

GCPD fucking sucks nobody thought to confiscate that hood?

[Lock Jaw]

Another thing.... I thought Gordon/Bullock were supposed to be Homicide department....

What are they doing being called in to investigate a bank robbery where no one was killed?

Last week too, Gordon starts to involve himself in the circus case before any dead bodies are found.

[VSG]

Seriously wtf was up with the Fish scene? Never saw that coming :lol:

[Lock Jaw]

Also, the two options were "we take your eyes" or "we kill you all". Now that she took away the first option, shouldn't they just be all "Ok. I guess we kill you all."

[Simple Fan]

Also, the two options were "we take your eyes" or "we kill you all". Now that she took away the first option, shouldn't they just be all "Ok. I guess we kill you all."

She has balls, can't kill someone that has massive figurative balls.

[dronepool]

That operation though..

[KIRA]

If Loeb's daughter ever got her hands on Penguin...

There are times when I want Bruce to be batman just for a while like with his smug condescending board of directors.

When I heard that Dr's name I was like "Oh shit German doctor this is gonna go downhill fast" damn was I right.

[screech]

Pissed we have to wait 5 weeks until the next one.

[screech]

Fish Mooney almost taking Penguin's spot as my favorite character.

[VSG]

Seriously, she's really coming into her own strongly.

[Destor]

I have no clue why they took such a long break right after a long break. Thankfully I've completely forgetten what their arcs were so im not too bothered

[VSG]

Yeah tell me about it. I hate all these long breaks every show seems to take all the time now. At least be consistent with the breaks.

[KIRA]

Back from the break gotta say, I kinda like Selina acting as Bruce's heavy.

[KIRA]

Also Fish will not be returning for season 2

[KIRA]

Well Edward Nigma just crossed into Riddler territory beautifully

[Nicky Fives]

I was thinking Nygma was going to accidentally kill Kringle somehow by protecting her from abusive cop guy to cause the snap, but the way they did it worked as well....

[screech]

Also Fish will not be returning for season 2

So they confirmed that someone else won't take up the role? I know the actress is leaving after this season.

[KIRA]

I think shes going to die I mean she has been shot.

Penguin is brilliant and has kicked off the mother of all gang wars.

[Lock Jaw]

Ok finale....

Barbara is just the worst... hated her for the entire season... hope she doesn't return.

Also, yes Penguin... as a man who has a precarious balance, it is def a good idea to climb up on a small ledge to yell that you are a king.

Also, how did Selina go from "morally ambiguous" to "full on hardcore gangster" in two weeks? Seems like a rapid change...

[Destor]

Terrible finale. Almost as bad as the premiere. I hope this isnt renewed.

[Lock Jaw]

It already has been

[screech]

I enjoyed the finale. Nygma starting to really "lose himself" was cool.

[screech]

Barbara is just the worst... hated her for the entire season... hope she doesn't return.

Also, how did Selina go from "morally ambiguous" to "full on hardcore gangster" in two weeks? Seems like a rapid change...

I agree on Barbara, was never a fan.

Fish's offer to Selena must have been pretty great.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

She's an orphan on the street. Made her feel like she had a family. Not that hard to see it not taking long to win her over.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Did Kringle intentionally show Ed her ass after questioning him?

[Lock Jaw]

If by that you mean she turned her back and left the room, than yes.

[Nicky Fives]

My question is if Alfred new about The Bat Cave before Baby Batman discovered it from the hint given by Lucius Fox....And I love Nygma, seems like he may become a focus of Season 2 next year.....

[Sixx]

I just started watching this out of boredom and I like it.

Hate Fish Mooney, not in a "heel" way, but she just sucks and all her scenes bore the shit outta me.

[Sixx]

Goddamn, Alfred is a total badass.

[Disturbed316]

It took me a while to get into this but ended up really enjoying the series.

[Sixx]

It took me a while to get into this but ended up really enjoying the series.

Same. I mean, it was one of the very few shows that had no delay here in Poland, every episode aired like a day or two after it aired in the US but I just didn't care about it at all. Was totally bored 2 days ago and gave it a go and ended up really enjoying it.

[Blue Demon]

I just basically binge watched all the episodes and finished last night....I'm digging it and hope it lasts a while

[Lock Jaw]

Hate Barbara so much... Unfortunately she will be back in the second season.... Wish she would just go away....

[screech]

She really got on my nerves toward the end.

[Lock Jaw]

Damn @ tonight's episode.....


On another note, I have actually enjoyed Barbara the two episodes this season.... improved like 200% by way of changing character completely....

[McLegend]

I had no idea Gotham already started.

[screech]

It's already way better than all of last season, and I really enjoyed it last year.

[Simple Fan]

Season's been great so far really like how the Joker character is going.

[Lock Jaw]

Well, so much for Jerome.... was really enjoying him in the role.....

Interested in the Theo Gallavad storyline, though... interested to see where it goes....

Don't "understand" Jerome's death "inspiring" people watching it to suddenly go insane and start laughing and killing people randomly.....

[Sixx]

That kid that people speculated would turn out to be The Joker is dead?

[KIRA]

That kid that people speculated would turn out to be The Joker is dead?

They did say they would be throwing out a lot of red herrings so...bye Jerome.

[Simple Fan]

Yea didn't expect Jerome dying. Still don't want to see Jim and Barbra back together though.

[Lock Jaw]

They are obviously not getting back together.....

[Sixx]

Might as well just kill off Barbara. That character sucks.

[Lock Jaw]

Much better this season.... can tolerate her now....

[Sixx]

Improved? Sure. Still sucks, imo.

[Sixx]

The guy that plays that bald, strong guy freed from Arkham is named Stink Fisher.

Just thought you should know. Very important.

[KIRA]

Improved? Sure. Still sucks, imo.

Also from the shows creators it turns out we were meant do dislike her from the start she was intentionally written as unlikable to set up for the Barbra we have now.

[Sixx]

Dislike in a heel way or dislike in a shitty character way?

There's a difference.

[screech]

If it was the latter, they get an A.

[Wishbone]

Damn, at first I was really iffy on this show because of all the liberties they took with the Batman mythos, but it just keeps getting better and better. This season so far has been some of the best tv I've seen in ages.

[KIRA]

HOLY SHIT ALFRED REALLY?

Edward Nygma #winning
to bad his psychosis is gonna screw this up......OR not....

Also pretty sure Galvan fucking with Penguin is gonna cost him huge.

[Lock Jaw]

Like new Captain Barnes character.... Michael Chiclets good.....

One thing I haven't liked about the new season too much is Ed Nigma having a Stephan Urkel version of himself that only he can see.... Not a huge fan of that....

[Nicky Fives]

hot, lesbian kissing has been a highlight though.....

[KIRA]

A lot of shit just hit a lot of fans and Nygma has destroyed the last link in his sanity chain.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Binge-watched season 1 on Netflix. I like people who like things I like.

[Nicky Fives]

A lot of shit just hit a lot of fans and Nygma has destroyed the last link in his sanity chain.

Penguin having his mother kidnapped isn't doing much for his sanity as well....

[KIRA]

Penguin having his mother kidnapped isn't doing much for his sanity as well....

I really felt terrible for Penguin last night and wanted him to destroy Galivan. Also lol at Zasz giving up that was the best.

[Simple Fan]

Nygma finally embracing the Riddler was cool. Hate Theo so much, want to see Penguin killhim good.

[VSG]

Jessica Lucas is ok though, especially bisexual Jessica Lucas.

[mitchables]

gonna miss the adventures of oswald and butch tbh

[VSG]

They were the Laurel and Hardy of Gotham :'(

[Lock Jaw]

I hope Butch still gets a lot of screen time.... and lots of wacky arm attachments.... hammer was a good start....

[Lock Jaw]

Hot episode...

Surprised to see Gallavan taken down so easily.... Though I think now The Order of St. Dumas will unleash all hell with a "Plan B"....

[Blue Demon]

Yeah, me too...although I can't help but feel there'll still be a bit of fight left in him.

[Nicky Fives]

Yeah, me too...although I can't help but feel there'll still be a bit of fight left in him.

Penguin & Riddler alliance may be interesting....

[Sixx]

Lil' Batman sure does cry a lot.

Pussy.

[KIRA]

Lil' Batman sure does cry a lot.

Pussy.

IKR there are times when he reaches Anakin Skywalker levels of unbelievably in terms of who he will become.

[KIRA]

Best villain motivation speech ever, It was delivered chillingly and watching these two together was fun Nigma is twisted.

Speaking of chilling (and twisted) Gordon, you picked the wrong fucking guy to NOT cross the line with I was wondering if/how that would cost him.

"Won't stop until he's dead" I think they just ran outta guys.

HA Bruce FAIL You can(not) advance go to your room and go to sleep.

When you ask for ID from a group of cloaked strangers you deserve that.

Good episode. no Bullock tho :(

[screech]

I'm gonna love this penguin/riddler tag team.

How long before Gordon just starts snapping necks and shit? I figure he's due after that pep talk from the captain.

[VSG]

This season seems to be mostly to get Riddler fully developed and I have no problem with that.

[Lock Jaw]

I am hoping to see at least one flaming sword before this Gallavan thing is done.

[mitchables]

riddler/penguin team-up is everything

single best thing to happen in this show to date

[Blue Demon]

This weeks ep was really good, Nygma killed it.

[Simple Fan]

Great episode, was literally pissed when the show ended. Next week should be great. Kinda hate that its the fall finale.

[KIRA]

FINALLY Bruce grows some goddamn balls.

Really good episode

ITS GOING DOWN!

[VSG]

Yeah I liked the episode also, feel like the entire season is going very well.

[KIRA]

Yeah I liked the episode also, feel like the entire season is going very well.

Yep this season has been very fun to watch last season had its meh episodes I cannot say that for this one so far.

[KIRA]

Fuck yea that episode

I'm glad Bruce is at least highly perceptive.

Gotham is about to get Strange(r) and cold...

[mitchables]

nygma and cobblepot continue to steal every scene they are in, especially together. i want that show so badly

freeze should be good, he's a bit captain cold-looking though

also gordon is doing some pretty dark shit, idk that i can reconcile this guy with how i know him as the commissioner down the line

love bullock still though, man deserves so many hugs

[KIRA]

love bullock still though, man deserves so many hugs

For making it up that insane staircase yes,yes he does.

[James Steele]

Holy shit, I love this show. Excited for it to start back up after winter.

[KIRA]

This whole thing with Gordon reminds me of what Two-face said to him in the Dark Knight "You thought we could be decent men in indecent times" This Gordon is like "Yea no fuck that,I need results!"

[Sixx]

I love this season, but I just don't like the fact Bullock's role is very minor comparing to the previous.

[VSG]

Back this week, and Japanese Hugo Strange was weird. Maybe in a good way, haven't figured out yet.

[screech]

BD Wong looks fucking sinister. Love it.

[screech]

Can't wait for more Mr. Freeze also. Great villain.

[Blue Demon]

He needed a career change after 2 failed dinosaur park positions.

[VSG]

Didn't think Nora would actually die but the ending scene was even more surprising.

[Lock Jaw]

Needs more ice puns

[VSG]

Nah, it's cool as it is.

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe as part of his "new life" he finds solace in ice puns

[VSG]

Thx for ignoring my pun.

[Blue Demon]

It's time to kick some ice.

[KIRA]

At this point Eds insanity and raging inferiorty complex are gonna get his ass caught.

Nice way to show Bruce develop one of his most defining Batman traits

LORI PETTY! aka Superman/Batman TAS LiveWire always loved her.

What is Hugo Strange doing???

Also BD Wongs portrayal of him is just menacing.

[Lock Jaw]

Was a bit "weird" when he was standing in the middle of the police station delivering menacing monologue to himself.... was that supposed to be "in his head", or was he really talking out loud.... you'd think someone would notice....

[KIRA]

Was a bit "weird" when he was standing in the middle of the police station delivering menacing monologue to himself.... was that supposed to be "in his head", or was he really talking out loud.... you'd think someone would notice....

Had to be in his head but what I mean is Jim Gordon probably doesn't suspect him but Nygma doesn't see it that way.

[VSG]

Riddler's graduated summa cum laude

[KIRA]

Riddler doing in a matter of days what every mobster,psycho ex and cult leader has failed to do.

I can finally really see the Batman in young master Wayne

Aww penguin....that guy looks familiar....Hey I know that dude AWESOME!(my attempt at not spoiling)

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched it. Was a pretty hot episode.

I hope that Bruce somehow becomes involved in catching Riddler.... another "step" in his journey....

[Swiss Ultimate]

Didn't think Nora would actually die but the ending scene was even more surprising.

I wish they'd bring back the Joker prototype. Loved that guy.

[KIRA]

Nice to see Bullock get more screentime

What was that song during Gordon's day to day montage I want it.

Love Paul Rubens!

Fingers crossed Penguin snaps and fucking kills these idiots.

Wayne and co nowhere to be found...and that's fine.

[VSG]

I wish they'd bring back the Joker prototype. Loved that guy.

When did you return? Or have I just missed your posts all this time?

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched the last episode.... wonder how Jim Gordon kept getting all that gel to put in his hair in prison....

[VSG]

All-natural Suave

[VSG]

Holy shit Penguin

[Simple Fan]

Yeah that was some wild shit. Penguin is back baby.

[KIRA]

Its nice to have the old Oswald back and holy fuck did he ever come back strong!

Its gonna be interesting to see if Gordon decides he wants a nut job roomie

[VSG]

Hmmm.. Azrael titled episode coming up soon. Dunno if this should have happened at all, but the entire season has been way better than the previous one so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

[KIRA]

I'm curious as to how Barbra Gordon will com into existence in this universe seeing as how her mom is crazier than a sack of rabid cats can't see Gordon wanting anything to do with her.

Sot hey are just making Freeze a straight up mercenary the characterization that made him a sympathetic villain completely gone. *sigh* Still love the suit though.

I'm seeing more and more of Batman in this kid and it's great

Wong as Strange is basically an evil George Taekai.

Oh shit Galavan....OH SHIT AZRAEL!

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched.... Azrael pretty sweet...

[Destor]

Finally gave up on this show and took it off my dvr. Pretty glad about it.