RAW 6/2

[Dark One]

Son of a bitch.

[Savio]

would have never thought Rollins

[Droford]

Aww

[el bobbo]

#Swerve

[ron the dial]

damn
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[Heisenberg]

Evolution!!!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What in the fuck?!

[Emperor Smeat]

Did not expect it to be Rollins or just him.

[owenbrown]

the fuck?

[KIRA]

Really it shouldve been ambrose man! wtf

[ron the dial]

i wanna hear why. i like it, but i need to hear why.

[teamXtremist]

And the new member of evolution is seth rollins

[Dark One]

Would have loved to see Ambrose in this spot.

[Mercenary]

What the hell!

[Lock Jaw]

BOOOOOOOOOOO this sucks

[Poit]

This just doesn't feel right.

[teamXtremist]

Shield getting raped

[KIRA]

This just doesn't feel right.

Thats cause Ambrose was the guy for this job.

[Lock Jaw]

Shield still had a lot of mileage, and Rollins is money as a face.

[Dark One]

So, I guess maybe the better question is who will be the new member of The Shield? Or will they stay down to two?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Way to break up your hottest babyface act, WWE. :y:

Think I'm just gonna tune out until MITB.</font>

[Shisen Kopf]

Sign of the year nominee Shield is the future now

No. The sign of the year was TPWW Shisen KOTF. Woooooooo!

[Innovator]

God dammit

[ron the dial]

Really it shouldve been ambrose man! wtf
kinda agree but this could work just as well.
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[Innovator]

At least evolution upgraded in the in ring department

[mhirn3]

I love it. Swerve everyone who thought it would be Ambrose and put Rollins with them and use it to build him as a star.

[Nowhere Man]

Okay, so last night Seth Rollins nearly kills himself to take out Evolution, again, and 24 hours later he's thick as thieves with them. That's fucking stupid.

[Emperor Smeat]

:wavesad: Shield and that stretch of amazing 3v3 matches they had together.

[Droford]

Bats comes back pissed they gave his spot to a nobody, might get a positive reaction

[Innovator]

Better explain it better than "we fooled you all" to not be a tna/Russo turn

[Heisenberg]

Seth Rollins is welcome in Evolution

[ron the dial]

rollins can pull this off. i have no doubt. he needs the evolution rub more than ambrose does imo. and this will only serve to get all 3 of them over even more. but i guess shield needs a third to make things even again, unless hhh steps out of the ring moving forward?
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[Frank Drebin]

Been a while since we got the sudden, massive heel turn moment. I like it. Roll with it.

[road doggy dogg]

LOVE IT

[Frank Drebin]

Rollins also was the shield member who needed to differentiate himself the most. He stands the most to gain from a heel push.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If this leads to Seth Rollins winning MITB it will be worth it.

[Poit]

Been a while since we got the sudden, massive heel turn moment. I like it. Roll with it.

Except...

Okay, so last night Seth Rollins nearly kills himself to take out Evolution, again, and 24 hours later he's thick as thieves with them. That's fucking stupid.

This. Rollins has fought Evolution too hard for it to have just been an act.

[Dark One]

I'm excited to see where this goes. It's going to come down to what they come up with explanation, but I'm willing to hope it's something more interesting than "Money."

[Tazz Dan]

Loved the Rollins turn there. I was expecting Roman to turn around and knock both Ambrose and Seth out, but I'm digging Rollins getting the rub.

[Lock Jaw]

Seth Rollins was well on his way to becoming the breakout star of the group... Winning people over with his Daniel Bryan like frenzied offense. Had to turn him heel now so he wouldn't outshine their chosen one.

[KIRA]

Rollins also was the shield member who needed to differentiate himself the most. He stands the most to gain from a heel push.

Damnit....that's a logical acceptable answer

[ron the dial]

Except...



This. Rollins has fought Evolution too hard for it to have just been an act.
if the boss and now stablemate hhh told him to go out there and sell it like he meant it so that when the moment came the impact would be that much greater, why wouldn't he? seems plausible to me.
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[Frank Drebin]

Rollins has fought Evolution too hard for it to have just been an act.

Sweet sweet poit....Everyone's got a price. Mwahahahaha

*money money money money moneeeee eeee*

[Lock Jaw]

I will give them this... It may not make much sense, but I haven't been this "upset" and "shocked" at a heel turn in a long time.

[Tazz Dan]

This. Rollins has fought Evolution too hard for it to have just been an act.

Maybe HHH only initiated "Plan B" backstage at Raw? There was no reference to that being a plan all along for them. Maybe Hunter made him an offer he couldn't refuse. This isn't the first time something like this has happened in wrestling.

[Droford]

If this leads to Seth Rollins winning MITB it will be worth it.

In 3 years..maybe

[road doggy dogg]

Agree with most comments here


If you think about it... Batista quits, HHH is basically fucked. He needs to do a big move.

Maybe he "promised Rollins a title match" (or whatever verbiage he used on Bats)... Rollins hates Evoluion but the offer is too good to refuse

Doesn't have to be a long-winded plan, could've just been formulated tonight (kayfabe)

[road doggy dogg]

Listening to Booker T on this post-show is ALMOST as bad as Shannon Sharpe on CBS pregame show

[KIRA]

Still would've preferred the guy who is sitting on a powder keg of crazy it wouldve been more obvious yea but I can't wait to get the ball rolling on heel Ambrose.

[Lock Jaw]

Tyler Breeze for replacement Shield member

[Poit]

OK, OK, I'll wait and see where this goes, but I'm not too hopeful.

[mhirn3]

Simple: have it that HHH came to him and said "doesnt it piss you off that you did the things that took us out most and still people only talk about those 2? Come join us and become the star you're meant to be".

[ron the dial]

"we paid him off" is so fucking lame, though. i hope they at least try to make it sound like a plan of some sort. why couldn't they have considered him to be a 4th member before batista left? they used to roll four deep, and they needed somebody from the new generation to represent. batista just forced their hand on the reveal. i don't know. seems far more interesting to me that way.
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[Dark One]

Listening to Booker T on this post-show is ALMOST as bad as Shannon Sharpe on CBS pregame show

He could make it if he'd just bust out his old classics.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m78hw7PvXm1rqoq0po1_500.jpg

[road doggy dogg]

Renee is such a fucking babe holy shit

[dronepool]

I didn't see that turn coming, cool moment.

[Emperor Smeat]

I like to think Rollins split was because he couldn't deal with the other guys anymore backstage. Maybe Reigns is a constant huge pig at catering leaving nothing good for Rollins to eat. Maybe Ambrose and his random nonsense antics/speeches finally drove Rollins insane.

Either that or he took too many bad bumps last night and forgot what happened while Triple H corrupted him with an offer too good to refuse.

[BigCrippyZ]

Very cool turn. I figured one of them was going to turn eventually but that it would probably be Ambrose. I definitely didn't see the turn coming tonight, especially after their promos.

I'm excited and interested to see where this goes and how they explain things, etc. That being said I also can't wait to see the promos/work that a heel Ambrose could do.

[road doggy dogg]

Going forward, I'm excited for Rollins.

He's great at playing a baby face in tag matches, lots of high-risk etc. Interested to see if he can play the heel role in matches, and have a more well-rounded repertoire in his arsenal.

[road doggy dogg]

why do people keep saying heel Ambrose, how is he a heel after this ..........

[ron the dial]

the thing about ambrose is that even as a face, he can deliver what is essentially a heel promo. the shit he's going to say to rollins.....
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[mhirn3]

I still don't put it past WWE to do it as a double swerve where Rollins goes back to the Shield after destroying Evolution from the inside.

Now hear me out.....the beatdown can be explained easily....he had to sell it to get HHH to believe it.

Not saying this is the route they will go, but it'd be interesting.

[ron the dial]

why do people keep saying heel Ambrose, how is he a heel after this ..........
they are talking about eventually
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[ron the dial]

I still don't put it past WWE to do it as a double swerve where Rollins goes back to the Shield after destroying Evolution from the inside.

Now hear me out.....the beatdown can be explained easily....he had to sell it to get HHH to believe it.

Not saying this is the route they will go, but it'd be interesting.
i love this, honestly.
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[Shisen Kopf]

The greatest sign in the history of rassledom

http://s23.postimg.org/nxgwd15bv/20140602_231849_1.jpg

[screech]

I still don't put it past WWE to do it as a double swerve where Rollins goes back to the Shield after destroying Evolution from the inside.

Now hear me out.....the beatdown can be explained easily....he had to sell it to get HHH to believe it.

Not saying this is the route they will go, but it'd be interesting.

This would be awesome

[mhirn3]

That theory was just something I thought of when I was watching and conversing with a buddy.

I can't wait to go to raw in cleveland in 2 weeks.

[teamXtremist]

Seth Rollins is a mystery

[Dark One]

Here's what Seth'll look like on Smackdown or next Monday.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/20a01744de18731d4abdd0229cb77ab3/tumblr_mpl957cClv1rmvjexo1_500.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

https://24.media.tumblr.com/525348b2c15591f1e9a50ee8203e32dd/tumblr_n6kglpj5wO1srbyoyo1_500.gif

[Nark Order]

Not hating this. I think a simple "everyone has a price" can explain this easily.

[Crimson]

I dunno about that double swerve idea. We will just be back to where we were before. Trips will still be in charge.

[Tazz Dan]

The greatest sign in the history of rassledom

http://s23.postimg.org/nxgwd15bv/20140602_231849_1.jpg

Are you sure? These two may argue.


http://imageshack.com/a/img706/8229/ix0s.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img717/8329/td4m.jpg

[Savio]

I see rollins saying he did it for the money and because he was over shadowed.

[Shisen Kopf]

Tazz Dan, your signs are good but mine is better. We're talking about king of the forum. Not just a silly mod position. I turn down being a mod like every other day because i was unworthy of such a position

[Shisen Kopf]

Destor has signed up for "Juan in training" bullying classes. Step one: editing posts. :(

[drave]

Was a great show last night, was finally in a decent fan section for once. Friend and I started the Bo-ring chant, good times.

There was a fan "incident" at one point in the show when a group of knobs started a "Chris Benoit" chant and another fella took it waaaaaaaaaaaay too personal and ended up being taken away because he was going batshit cray cray.

Loudest pop was for The Shield followed by Bluetista's announcement of quitting. The Uso's come across better live than on TV I think, as well as the entire Adam Rose bit. No one gave a piss about The Wyatts without Bray.

Dark match saw Cena come flying out because people were already leaving. He called Bray Wyatt out, who came out but said that he is a God and a God chooses when to fight and tonight was not that night. Cena had the crowd start "the whole world in his hands" and changed it to "He has no pearls, in his pants" which caused Bray to get fired up and get in the ring. It was quick 5 minute match with both guys kicking out of finishers, a ref bump, followed by a Super Cena victory.

They are coming back to Indy in November.

[Destor]

Destor has signed up for "Juan in training" bullying classes. Step one: editing posts. :(
PLEASE. Ive been doing this MUCH longer :p

[drave]

The greatest sign in the history of rassledom

http://s23.postimg.org/nxgwd15bv/20140602_231849_1.jpg


Haha! Glad it made it on. We were in the last row in the lower section, mainly where it was lit red all night, so it was kinda hard to see. The other side said USA#1 which I proudly displayed when Zeb Colter came out to explain to the plebians exactly why USA is #1, the Rusev segment AND when the Mexicant's fought 3MB. Don't hinder Ginder.

[Cuse8]

after rollins hit reigns and ambrose turned slowly looking shocked.. for a second i expected him to smile and grab a chair with rollins to start beating down reigns... that would have been cool

but alas im all for heel rollins, he will be face again eventually.. give it about a year

[Innovator]

It is weird that a member of the AGE OF THE FALL is aligned with Orton and HHH

[Innovator]

Posted for RONTHEDIAL

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[ron the dial]

seriously. i saw the whole jimmy jacobs build from huss man to emo boy to riiiiiiight before that. so pissed i missed the payoff. his feud with cabana was awesome, though. as was his stint with the knee injury when he came out managing lacey on preshows with his cane and stuff. smoked a cigarette at ringside once. amazing character development.

[Tom Guycott]

Having just watched RAW...

Awesome. Loved Rollins' turn. I've said before that he has the most to gain from betraying The Shield should they break up. Ambrose has the skills to survive without it. Reigns has the look and the nepotism pedigree for a push. Seth was the most likely to just get lost in the shuffle in a singles run. In fact, I believe I said he should be the HBK in this Barber Shop situation should it arise. And arise it did.

Now WHERE they go with it remains to be seen. Maybe they do end up going the double swerve route... with Rollins being the "Architect of The Shield", it would make sense to theoretically be able to be the one to outthink the "Cerebral Assassin" with destroying Evolution from the inside. Maybe they do have him explain that he's tired of having to be the glue for the other two, keeping them level headed and focused. Maybe they simply take the "all for the fame and riches" route.

At the end of the day, it will give him some much needed character depth aside from simply being The Shield's resident spot monkey... and who knows, maybe he'll even find *that thing* (like that Divas poll that essentially made Cody Rhodes go from tag-team accessory nobody to Dashing) that will set him on the road to become the breakout star he is totally capable of being.

Yes, it would be "more fun" to see Mox cut loose as a full on heel. Yes, taking away their muscle to make Reigns the next big thing would be fun to see. Instead, they took a pragmatic route that can stand to benefit all 3 guys instead.

I applaud this.

[Innovator]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>That's my boy.</p>&mdash; The Zombie Princess (@JimmyJacobsX) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimmyJacobsX/statuses/473663496023203840">June 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[VSG]

Okay, so last night Seth Rollins nearly kills himself to take out Evolution, again, and 24 hours later he's thick as thieves with them. That's fucking stupid.


This. Rollins has fought Evolution too hard for it to have just been an act.

I like to think Rollins split was because he couldn't deal with the other guys anymore backstage. Maybe Reigns is a constant huge pig at catering leaving nothing good for Rollins to eat. Maybe Ambrose and his random nonsense antics/speeches finally drove Rollins insane.

Either that or he took too many bad bumps last night and forgot what happened while Triple H corrupted him with an offer too good to refuse.

Oh you lot. Can't you just accept the fact that Rollins really, really hated Batista? Once he quit Evolution, Rollins had no issues joining HHH and Orton.

[Tom Guycott]

OR Batista just jumped the gun with his temper. Yeah, WWE has been on a roll with this 3 man stable deal lately, but that isn't necessarily set in stone. Evolution was initially 4 guys, and it is totally possibe it can be again... or, as someone else stated, Hunter might be stepping back from being ring active with the group and naming Rollins as a successor (instead of Flair being past, HHH being present, and RKO and Bats being future, HHH is now the past, Randy is the "face of WWE" and Bats is theoretically his peer, and Seth is the new future). Trips was saying he had a plan- a bigger picture- and Bats "walked out" before it could unfold.

If this leads to the pre Guardians of the Galaxy face run they intended in the first place before the constant snubbing of DB bit them in the ass remains to be seen, but it doesn't have to be a slapdash replacement or can't coexist thing (like when Punk and Lesnar were both managed by Paul E but never appeared together).

Most likely scenario, though, is that Batista is turning face out of necessity. With Bryan hurt, and Cena run into the ground, there aren't too many credible and established main eventers that people would buy as title contenders thanks to WWE not being consistent with the slow push. Bats is fresh enough to work and doesn't have the YES movement to contend with this time.

[Wehttam]

you are right tom

batista needs to join the shield

[Innovator]

If Rollins was the Architect, Batista could be the Guardian of the Shield

[road doggy dogg]

OR Batista just jumped the gun with his temper. Yeah, WWE has been on a roll with this 3 man stable deal lately, but that isn't necessarily set in stone. Evolution was initially 4 guys, and it is totally possibe it can be again... or, as someone else stated, Hunter might be stepping back from being ring active with the group and naming Rollins as a successor (instead of Flair being past, HHH being present, and RKO and Bats being future, HHH is now the past, Randy is the "face of WWE" and Bats is theoretically his peer, and Seth is the new future). Trips was saying he had a plan- a bigger picture- and Bats "walked out" before it could unfold.

If this leads to the pre Guardians of the Galaxy face run they intended in the first place before the constant snubbing of DB bit them in the ass remains to be seen, but it doesn't have to be a slapdash replacement or can't coexist thing (like when Punk and Lesnar were both managed by Paul E but never appeared together).

Most likely scenario, though, is that Batista is turning face out of necessity. With Bryan hurt, and Cena run into the ground, there aren't too many credible and established main eventers that people would buy as title contenders thanks to WWE not being consistent with the slow push. Bats is fresh enough to work and doesn't have the YES movement to contend with this time.

what

there is absolutely no way Batista is going to be a face any time in the near future

his big "triumphant return" at the Rumble was met loudly with boos and it's only gone downhill since

[erickman]

what would be funny is if batista comes back as a heel next year and the fans chear him.

[VSG]

If Rollins was the Architect, Batista could be the Guardian of the Shield

Ooooooooooffffff

[XL]

Except...



This. Rollins has fought Evolution too hard for it to have just been an act.

Maybe HHH only initiated "Plan B" backstage at Raw? There was no reference to that being a plan all along for them. Maybe Hunter made him an offer he couldn't refuse. This isn't the first time something like this has happened in wrestling.

This.

I still don't put it past WWE to do it as a double swerve where Rollins goes back to the Shield after destroying Evolution from the inside.

Now hear me out.....the beatdown can be explained easily....he had to sell it to get HHH to believe it.

Not saying this is the route they will go, but it'd be interesting.

Would he really need to go deep cover into the team they white-washed the night before and subsequently lost a member?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Loved the Rollins turn there. I was expecting Roman to turn around and knock both Ambrose and Seth out, but I'm digging Rollins getting the rub.

Glad to see SOMEONE else here who thinks Reigns should've gotten the push. I completely fail to see the argument that others have made regarding Rollins standing to gain the most from a heel turn and push.

[DAMN iNATOR]

PLEASE. Ive been doing this MUCH longer :p

He's right, Shisen. He's Juan 2.0. Don't be a bully, Destor, B.A. *.

[road doggy dogg]

what are you talking about

Reigns is easily going to get the biggest push out of this

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The only way Seth Rollins leaving The Shield is acceptable is if it leads to Randy Orton turning on Evoution and joining The Shield. Then he can clash with Ambrose, who turns on The Shield and joins Evolution. Triple H becomes jealous of Ambrose and Rollins' success so he turns on Evolution and joins The Shield, but tries to be the leader, which causes Reigns to turn on The Shield and join Evolution.</font>

[Dark One]

<font color=goldenrod>The only way Seth Rollins leaving The Shield is acceptable is if it leads to Randy Orton turning on Evoution and joining The Shield. Then he can clash with Ambrose, who turns on The Shield and joins Evolution. Triple H becomes jealous of Ambrose and Rollins' success so he turns on Evolution and joins The Shield, but tries to be the leader, which causes Reigns to turn on The Shield and join Evolution.</font>

What is this, TNA?

[el bobbo]

Loudest pop was for The Shield followed by Bluetista's announcement of quitting. The Uso's come across better live than on TV I think, as well as the entire Adam Rose bit. No one gave a piss about The Wyatts without Bray.


I like how the Uso's went from having dead silence to having one of the better pops. On top of that, their theme is great. Good for them.

[DAMN iNATOR]

what are you talking about

Reigns is easily going to get the biggest push out of this

Wouldn't work as a face though. His look just SCREAMS "über heel". Face run would seriously risk Reigns becoming just another vanilla face fans eventually stop giving a crap about.

Will definitely still have to wait and see how things go at this point, but I'm gonna stick with "the wrong guy from The Shield was chosen to go heel" at this particular point in time.

[road doggy dogg]

Wrong kid died, Dewey Cox

[road doggy dogg]

Anyway, your post makes no sense

[ron the dial]

reigns is going to be just fine as a face. it's worked so far, and now there's more fuel to the fire. a goddamn blood feud. he'll be a good heel eventually, but it'll be that much better once he's an established main event face and turns. at least i hope.

[Wehttam]

roman reigns going heel was the absolute worst option of the three. he is so crazy over at times. lets totally derail that and make him heel in a time where an over face character (who is actually trying to be face) is so rare.

rollins was the guy who was most likely going to get lost in the shuffle.

best move

[Cool King]

I get the feeling that next time we see Rollins, he won't have that blonde part of his hair.

It'll be all black.

[road doggy dogg]

Evolution should enforce a strict no-beard policy, a la the NY Yankees

[XL]

They neeede a no hair policy for Batista. Dude looked like a middle-aged Middle Eastern chap.

[Cool King]

I see what you mean but I prefer it when he has hair.

So many main eventers these days have hardly any or no hair at all.

Cena, Orton, HHH, Batista, Punk (several times during his 434 day title run), Bryan (when he first entered the main event scene), Kane (Unmasked WHC run), Big Show, Lesnar, Rock, Undertaker.

[XL]

It's hardly flowing locks is it?