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Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 01:49 PM
* A recently dethroned champion wins his 'rematch clause' match
* The "advantage" side wins a handicap match
* A wrestler continues his match normally while a person he has been feuding with stands harmlessly at the entrance

Add your own, please.

CSL
07-18-2014, 01:54 PM
*the hand will not drop for the third time unless it's against a monster who is at the start of his big push

CSL
07-18-2014, 01:56 PM
also, watch 5 Dollar Wrestling, "the rules go out of the window" so to speak. Handicap matches where the heel team is at a disadvantage and win clean, guy has his retirement match in a tag match and never gets tagged in, boy scout uniforms etc

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 01:57 PM
A ref asks "DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE?" and a wrestler says "NO THANK YOU" and the match ends

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 01:57 PM
What's 5 dollar wrestling?

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:00 PM
lol I'd pop for that, some kind of guy who just doesn't care/was maybe "pushed" into wrestling etc until eventually he RISES ABOVE IT ALL and develops a passion for it and wins the girl and has outtakes interspersed with the end credits etc. Got away from me at the end but you get the idea

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:03 PM
What's 5 dollar wrestling?

Colt Cabana, Jake Manning and Marty DeRosa book some of the worst wrestlers anywhere ever and the daftest angles for a laugh. Colt and Marty commentate on the shows. At first glance it just looks like the worlds worst indy fed but it's basically a giant pisstake with some hilarious stuff included

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:03 PM
you haven't lived until you've seen Jimmy The Snake Roberts DDT like 20 people in a row for no apparent reason

drave
07-18-2014, 02:08 PM
Using the "blinding powder" to get a win.

drave
07-18-2014, 02:08 PM
Or the sputa, spewt..... THE GOD DAMN GREAT MUTA SPIT!

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 02:13 PM
People win with that whenever they use it, I thought. Tajiri, anyway.

Innovator
07-18-2014, 02:17 PM
The hot tag in a tag match never happens and the heels win triumphantly. Doesn't matter in big tag matches.

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:23 PM
John Cena Loses

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Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:24 PM
The Heel handicap teams have won on raw recently, at least in divas matches.

Refs checking the turn buckles and boots and such and actually finding a foreign object

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:25 PM
Would have loved to see Regal get patted down, they find his knuckles and just throw out the match

drave
07-18-2014, 02:27 PM
John Cena Loses

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lol, someone was gonna.:y:

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 02:27 PM
Divas matches are not canon.

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 02:27 PM
Would have loved to see Regal get patted down, they find his knuckles and just throw out the match

That would be awesome.

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:28 PM
To piggy back on ABT, Someone watches from the ramp, distracts someone who gets rolled up, then that person kicks out and wins t he match like "oh ho boy you almost got me".

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 02:29 PM
* A heel tells the crowd to shut up, and they immediately fall silent

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:30 PM
Wrestler debuts from a country the USA is at odds with and simply states "Despite the current political climate, I have no strong feelings about the USA in comparison to my own country."

road doggy dogg
07-18-2014, 02:33 PM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProfessionalWrestling

you're welcome

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:35 PM
For what? Posting a list of all the things that DO happen in a thread about things that DO NOT?

road doggy dogg
07-18-2014, 02:36 PM
yeah fuck you

road doggy dogg
07-18-2014, 02:37 PM
right in the fucking dick

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:38 PM
What an asshole this guy

road doggy dogg
07-18-2014, 02:39 PM
so much negativity

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 02:40 PM
Did this thread just get RDD'd out of nowhere?

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:40 PM
somebody ban rdd

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:41 PM
forever

Nowhere Man
07-18-2014, 02:41 PM
"Let me tell you, (wrestler I'm feuding with), this has gone too far! You've crossed a line. There's only one thing left to do......calmly discuss our personal and professional differences until we've reached a resolution that we're both satisfied with, then resume our respective careers in a more sportsmanlike manner!"

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:42 PM
FOREVER

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:43 PM
"You beat me like a dog, attacked my wife, defamed my family...I am suing this company for a hostile work environment and will no longer subject myself to this abuse".

drave
07-18-2014, 02:47 PM
"Let me tell you, (wrestler I'm feuding with), this has gone too far! You've crossed a line. There's only one thing left to do......calmly discuss our personal and professional differences until we've reached a resolution that we're both satisfied with, then resume our respective careers in a more sportsmanlike manner!"

I feel like Sandow could pull off something like this.

Rammsteinmad
07-18-2014, 02:51 PM
A feud/misunderstanding is resolved without any violence.

CSL
07-18-2014, 02:52 PM
*the referee doesn't believe the heel that high-fived himself and orders his tag partner back in

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 02:53 PM
AUSTIN: "I ain't through with ya', Vince! I ain't through with ya', not yet by a long shot!"

***

WWE has come to terms on the release of Steve Austin (Steve Williams) from his contract. We hope he chokes on a bag of dicks in his future endeavors.

Innovator
07-18-2014, 02:55 PM
Interviewer: Do you care to explain why you and your partner were at odds last week?

Wrestler: Oh that? We talked it over during the week and hashed it out. He came over for a barbecue on Saturday, brought the kids. I couldn't believe how big his son is now. Time flies, man.

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:56 PM
Steve Austin was arrested for assaulting several uniformed officers on monday night

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 02:58 PM
Kind of would love to see a guy run to the back, jump into a limo, and instead of it peeling out the driver is taking a dump so the guy gets caught

Nowhere Man
07-18-2014, 03:02 PM
*the referee doesn't believe the heel that high-fived himself and orders his tag partner back in

Conversely, the referee does believe that the always-honest babyface did tag his partner in while the ref was distracted by the heel team's shenanigans.

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 03:05 PM
Two wrestlers get married and it works.

Nowhere Man
07-18-2014, 03:08 PM
A high-profile match gets canceled because one of the participants decides not to sign the contract.

Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2014, 03:10 PM
Hahaha, a contract signing segment where a wrestler appears with his lawyer and is like "nah, I don't think this is a great idea" and no fight breaks out.

Innovator
07-18-2014, 03:14 PM
A GM gets chastized by the board of directors for not booking a main event for the show until someone issued a challenge for later in the night

Cool King
07-18-2014, 03:15 PM
A wrestler brings a gun to a No DQ/Anything Goes Match and uses it.

Nowhere Man
07-18-2014, 03:20 PM
An even number of faces and heels start off the opening of Smackdown interrupting each other to talk about their own singles feuds.....and then everyone just goes their separate ways for the night.

Innovator
07-18-2014, 03:25 PM
When a wrestler grabs a mic in the ring with another guy and starts to monologue with insults and jokes, he gets brutally attacked.

Innovator
07-18-2014, 03:25 PM
MITB gets cashed in earlier in the day when the champ is working out in the ring.

SlickyTrickyDamon
07-18-2014, 03:27 PM
Ref reaches 10 in a double knockout count in a regular match. It only happens in draw last man standing matches.

Hanso Amore
07-18-2014, 03:39 PM
Match is thrown out for punching with a closed fist

Droford
07-18-2014, 03:59 PM
A wrestler brings a gun to a No DQ/Anything Goes Match and uses it.

related note, I hate in no DQ matches when someone has a submission hold on and the other person ends up in the ropes and ends up breaking the hold. really no reason to break the hold.

Nowhere Man
07-18-2014, 04:58 PM
A competitor wins a ladder match by snagging the belt/briefcase/whatever with a really long candy-grabber thing.

poopfromweiner dude
07-18-2014, 04:58 PM
When kurt angle shot the big show

Emperor Smeat
07-18-2014, 05:02 PM
A contract signing ends with a gentleman's handshake

KIRA
07-18-2014, 05:03 PM
Despite two wrestlers having an intense hatred they never ever attack each other off camera

Bad News Gertner
07-18-2014, 06:33 PM
Blacks getting pushes

Cool King
07-18-2014, 06:42 PM
Blacks getting pushes

That reminds me, I came across this article last week.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/07/the-not-so-fictional-bias-in-the-wwe-world-championship/374042/

DAMN iNATOR
07-19-2014, 01:09 AM
Interesting article, but I find it hilarious that for everything accurate about the article, there were a couple of notable things:

● Booker is mentioned for his brief feud and match with Triple H @ WM XIX, yet once they cover that, it's on to the next guy. No mention of him winning the 2006 KotR and going on to win the World Heavyweight Championship as King Booker or him defeating the ECW Champion and WWE Champion to be given the name-only title of "Champion of Champions".

● There's slight mention of the WWE's version of the ECW Championship, but no mention of Bobby Lashley, who despite the fact that WWE has gone on the record as stating that the title never was nor never will be considered a world championship, nonetheless held the title from the time he won it at December to Dismember in 2006 until Backlash 2007 where he lost it to Vince in a 3-on-1 handicap title match pitting him vs. Vince, Shane and Umaga.

Other than that it is an interesting and informative read. I guess nobody but Vince could say for sure, but I've always gotten the impression that he's at least somewhat racist. I'm sure that opinion is probably held by many others and not helped by the fact that not only have very few black superstars in the company ever been World Heavyweight Champion, as the article pointed out, none besides The Rock have ever claimed WWF/WWE Champion status.

Vastardikai
07-19-2014, 01:50 AM
A wrestler wins a trophy, and it never gets destroyed (in the US).

StingerMarksTaker
07-19-2014, 02:37 AM
A wrestler comes to the ring with a shirt stating
that he broke some guy's neck.

Oh wait?.

#1-norm-fan
07-19-2014, 03:17 AM
Two wrestlers get married and it works.

I would argue Al Wilson and Dawn Marie worked out.

I mean, yeah he died. But... everyone dies. At least he did it in the most awesome way possible.

#1-norm-fan
07-19-2014, 03:24 AM
I guess nobody but Vince could say for sure, but I've always gotten the impression that he's at least somewhat racist. I'm sure that opinion is probably held by many others and not helped by the fact that not only have very few black superstars in the company ever been World Heavyweight Champion, as the article pointed out, none besides The Rock have ever claimed WWF/WWE Champion status.

Who should have? I'm sure there are probably some black guys who COULD have been champion. That doesn't mean them not winning it is a sign of racism though. Maybe the white guy holding the title was more deserving in Vince's eyes and he didn't feel a silly need to make sure every race got it's fair share of title reigns.

DAMN iNATOR
07-19-2014, 02:19 PM
A group of fans from a wrestler's hometown at a show in that town make a sign which instead of promising to riot instead says "If ________ loses, we walk out quietly and in orderly fashion, accepting the fact that the promoter probably knows better than us who should win and who should lose."

Executioner
07-19-2014, 05:09 PM
Babyface team winning the coin toss in a WarGames match

Bad News Gertner
07-19-2014, 05:16 PM
Who should have? I'm sure there are probably some black guys who COULD have been champion. That doesn't mean them not winning it is a sign of racism though. Maybe the white guy holding the title was more deserving in Vince's eyes and he didn't feel a silly need to make sure every race got it's fair share of title reigns.

Percy Watson!

thedarkness214
07-19-2014, 05:27 PM
Who should have? I'm sure there are probably some black guys who COULD have been champion. That doesn't mean them not winning it is a sign of racism though. Maybe the white guy holding the title was more deserving in Vince's eyes and he didn't feel a silly need to make sure every race got it's fair share of title reigns.

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screech
07-19-2014, 10:36 PM
Match is thrown out for punching with a closed fist

I remember Test losing a match because of this. He was "feuding" with Stephanie and she was ringside. He was doing the 10 punches in the corner when she went over and told the ref his fist was closed. Don't remember who he was facing, though.

KaosDarksol
07-19-2014, 11:37 PM
I remember Test losing a match because of this. He was "feuding" with Stephanie and she was ringside. He was doing the 10 punches in the corner when she went over and told the ref his fist was closed. Don't remember who he was facing, though.

I also remember ric flair being a special referee in a match with the dudleyz vs somebody I don't remember (probably Orton and Batista) and disqualifying them for using closed fist

KaosDarksol
07-19-2014, 11:39 PM
A wrestler remembers a long feud he had with a rival and decides not to be partners with him a year later

SlickyTrickyDamon
07-19-2014, 11:40 PM
related note, I hate in no DQ matches when someone has a submission hold on and the other person ends up in the ropes and ends up breaking the hold. really no reason to break the hold.

Except that he can't win the match in the hold because rope break still counts it's just not a DQ for holding onto it.

MIZantine Empire
07-20-2014, 02:04 AM
The champion usually never gets pinned/eliminated first in an elimination style match. At least I can't off the top of my head remember this happening

Tom Guycott
07-20-2014, 02:38 AM
"Let me tell you, (wrestler I'm feuding with), this has gone too far! You've crossed a line. There's only one thing left to do......calmly discuss our personal and professional differences until we've reached a resolution that we're both satisfied with, then resume our respective careers in a more sportsmanlike manner!"

"You beat me like a dog, attacked my wife, defamed my family...I am suing this company for a hostile work environment and will no longer subject myself to this abuse".

#heelpromos

Shadrick
07-20-2014, 02:38 AM
Who should have? I'm sure there are probably some black guys who COULD have been champion. That doesn't mean them not winning it is a sign of racism though. Maybe the white guy holding the title was more deserving in Vince's eyes and he didn't feel a silly need to make sure every race got it's fair share of title reigns.

Accurate.

But it doesn't absolve it from being an interesting dynamic. I do believe that with the right program, any wrestler can be highlighted to the point where they can get over with the crowd, either as a heel, or as a face, and we've seen some guys spend only a few years in the WWE, and have it, the WWE Championship, quickly (Sheamus, Cena had it in 3 years, etc).

But the word "deserving" is kinda funny in a faux pas way. I find it hard to believe that a guy like Henry, or Booker, with tenure, and have been a bit more over than some previous WWE champions, only made it to the less of the two prestigious belts, the WHC, a belt that Punk had after only 2 years, and Khali had damn near right away. And Henry JUST got it a less than 3 years ago.

I don't think Vince/WWE is necessarily racist, but I do think there is prejudice. I think the glass ceiling for black wrestlers is a bit lower. Maybe it's a business thing and they're trying to market to there core demographic, which is understandable; Ahmed almost got the belt once, but the corporate dynamic was different then. As a black guy, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see Kofi get a real program, and stop being simply a spot whore in any type of rumble.

I don't lose sleep over it though, I still try to enjoy the product for what it is, since theres no way to really PROVE either side.

Tom Guycott
07-20-2014, 02:46 AM
Other than that it is an interesting and informative read. I guess nobody but Vince could say for sure, but I've always gotten the impression that he's at least somewhat racist. I'm sure that opinion is probably held by many others and not helped by the fact that not only have very few black superstars in the company ever been World Heavyweight Champion, as the article pointed out, none besides The Rock have ever claimed WWF/WWE Champion status.

I would attribute this a little less to racism and more to him expecting "championship material" to look a certain way, ESPECIALLY black guys. Notice how similar Lashley looks to Ahmed in his prime? It's totally shocking Titus hasn't gotten the push Reigns is getting.

And at that, if Vince IS racist, he's racist against all people of any skin color who AREN'T of Samoan heritage.

Tom Guycott
07-20-2014, 02:52 AM
* A recently dethroned champion wins his 'rematch clause' match


Didn't this actually happen a few times to get over the idea that "anything can happen in the WWF" when that was the tagline they were running with in the Attitude Era?

Like right after the PPV they get rematch on RAW, and one of the former champions regains their title?

Tom Guycott
07-20-2014, 03:03 AM
But, playing along:

*** Wrestler attended to by trainer, though totally conscious, voluntarily goes to local medical facility... main event matchup be damned.

*** Wrestler does something sketchy, i.e. picks up a chair. Ref asks "What are you doing?" Wrestler actually answers "What does it look like, ref? I'm about to clock my opponent with this illegal object because I'm upset and no longer care about the outcome of this matchup!"

*** Wrestler actually gets DQ'd in a 5 count from a hold involving opponent being entangled in ropes.

*** Ref doesn't fall for Eddie pretending to be hit by the object opponent is holding from when his back was turned.

*** Ref bump happens, but nothing shady transpires in that time period. Match continues when ref comes to with no momentum shift whatsoever.

Vastardikai
07-20-2014, 03:10 AM
The champion usually never gets pinned/eliminated first in an elimination style match. At least I can't off the top of my head remember this happening

Taz (c) vs. Mike Awesome vs. Masato Tanaka for ECW Title

Chris Jericho (c) vs. 2 Cold Scorpio vs. Shane Douglas vs. Pitbull 2 for ECW TV Title.

I want to say Mikey Whipwreck (c) vs. Steve Austin vs. Sandman for ECW Title as well, but I can't recall if this match was actually a thing right now.

It was mainly a Paul Heyman trope. He wanted it to happen in the Elimination Chamber during the worst PPV ever to take place in Augusta, GA, where Show would get eliminated by Punk first, more or less "making" Punk. Tragically, it didn't happen.

MIZantine Empire
07-20-2014, 05:26 AM
Taz (c) vs. Mike Awesome vs. Masato Tanaka for ECW Title

Chris Jericho (c) vs. 2 Cold Scorpio vs. Shane Douglas vs. Pitbull 2 for ECW TV Title.

I want to say Mikey Whipwreck (c) vs. Steve Austin vs. Sandman for ECW Title as well, but I can't recall if this match was actually a thing right now.

It was mainly a Paul Heyman trope. He wanted it to happen in the Elimination Chamber during the worst PPV ever to take place in Augusta, GA, where Show would get eliminated by Punk first, more or less "making" Punk. Tragically, it didn't happen.

Ahhh thanks.. I've never seen these matches, but that sounds like a Paul hey man thing.. I wish it happened more.. I like the excitement of knowing the champ is done early.

XL
07-20-2014, 05:27 AM
Accurate.

But it doesn't absolve it from being an interesting dynamic. I do believe that with the right program, any wrestler can be highlighted to the point where they can get over with the crowd, either as a heel, or as a face, and we've seen some guys spend only a few years in the WWE, and have it, the WWE Championship, quickly (Sheamus, Cena had it in 3 years, etc).

But the word "deserving" is kinda funny in a faux pas way. I find it hard to believe that a guy like Henry, or Booker, with tenure, and have been a bit more over than some previous WWE champions, only made it to the less of the two prestigious belts, the WHC, a belt that Punk had after only 2 years, and Khali had damn near right away. And Henry JUST got it a less than 3 years ago.

I don't think Vince/WWE is necessarily racist, but I do think there is prejudice. I think the glass ceiling for black wrestlers is a bit lower. Maybe it's a business thing and they're trying to market to there core demographic, which is understandable; Ahmed almost got the belt once, but the corporate dynamic was different then. As a black guy, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see Kofi get a real program, and stop being simply a spot whore in any type of rumble.

I don't lose sleep over it though, I still try to enjoy the product for what it is, since theres no way to really PROVE either side.
There's been a bunch of white "spot" guys that also don't/didn't deserve to get the WWE Title. I'm looking at Evan Bourne, Paul London, John Morrison, Brian Kendrick. Kofi is a black version of those guys. Him not getting a crack at the Main Event is nothing to do with his skin colour.

Didn't this actually happen a few times to get over the idea that "anything can happen in the WWF" when that was the tagline they were running with in the Attitude Era?

Like right after the PPV they get rematch on RAW, and one of the former champions regains their title?
Austin won back the belt the following night having lost it to Kane at KOTR '98.

MIZantine Empire
07-20-2014, 05:53 AM
There's been a bunch of white "spot" guys that also don't/didn't deserve to get the WWE Title. I'm looking at Evan Bourne, Paul London, John Morrison, Brian Kendrick. Kofi is a black version of those guys. Him not getting a crack at the Main Event is nothing to do with his skin colour.


Austin won back the belt the following night having lost it to Kane at KOTR '98.
didn't this just happen with the ic title too? I wanna say Barrett lost it, then regained it the next night

Tazz Dan
07-20-2014, 07:07 AM
I think so, at WM? He dropped to The Miz I think, and win back the following night.

Tazz Dan
07-20-2014, 07:08 AM
Also, I agree with XL's post. Kofi is shit, IMO. Not a knock on those who like him, I just don't, at all.

Shadrick
07-20-2014, 07:14 AM
There's been a bunch of white "spot" guys that also don't/didn't deserve to get the WWE Title. I'm looking at Evan Bourne, Paul London, John Morrison, Brian Kendrick. Kofi is a black version of those guys. Him not getting a crack at the Main Event is nothing to do with his skin colour.


Austin won back the belt the following night having lost it to Kane at KOTR '98.

Right, and I understand his (current) placement. I get that. And I use him as an example because he's the most over (not saying much) black guy on the card currently that isn't Mark Henry. But that really goes back to that word "deserve" and his placement is dictated by creative, really, and that's really my point.

It's easy to say a guy shouldn't have the title, when he hasn't really been given anything meaningful to do. Like, do I think Kofi "deserves" the WWE Championship? Hell no. But do I think it's interesting that he's been relegated to Rumble spot whore, constant jobber, and for the longest has had no realistic, longstanding feud, or interesting direction? Definitely. Have I noticed that trend amongst the few black talents that come through the company? Yeah. And if he was the first, I wouldn't say anything, but he's not. They changed his pants and he got some ink.

Again, not saying that black guys in the WWE haven't been given ANY opportunities. Just saying that over the years, it has seemed like less serious "okay, lets try some things to get him over" effort has been put into those characters. If you had told me in 97 that by 2014, Mark Henry would only have the WHC, and would never get the WWE Championship, AND it would only happen in 2011, I'd say you were crazy.

Also, I agree with XL's post. Kofi is shit, IMO. Not a knock on those who like him, I just don't, at all.

Yeah that's not really my point though. It wasn't really a pro-Kofi post as much as I was bringing him up as an example. Interchange Kofi with almost any other black guy in WWE post 1998.

I thought AJ was bland and boring when she was called up to the main roster. Then she was given something meaningful to do, and she hit a home run. Same with Wade Barrett.

Kofi's feud with Dolph was great. They traded victories, put on great matches, and you didn't know who would win. You got to see a mean streak from Kofi, just like in the Orton feud. Character development, woooo. You finding him shit is completely understandable, based off of what you've seen from him so far, and what he's been given to work with.

Tazz Dan
07-20-2014, 09:01 AM
I didn't read any other posts, just XL's at the top of the page. I had no idea who or what he was replying to, I just agreed with it lol.

Tazz Dan
07-20-2014, 09:02 AM
Maybe I should read the thread.

Tazz Dan
07-20-2014, 09:02 AM
I still agree with his post though.

Innovator
07-20-2014, 09:06 AM
In the opening punch exchange of a match, a wrestler gets KO'd

In the opening punch exchange of a match, a wrestler breaks his hand and taps out

Anybody Thrilla
07-20-2014, 11:58 AM
Not to deviate from the topic, but what makes Kofi "shit"? He's been in some really great matches.

Savio
07-20-2014, 12:13 PM
They storyline progresses on Smackdown.

A period of time in TNA where there is no heel faction and no heel GM.The champion usually never gets pinned/eliminated first in an elimination style match. At least I can't off the top of my head remember this happening
Happened to Chavo when he was Cruiser Champ.

Tazz Dan
07-20-2014, 12:32 PM
Not to deviate from the topic, but what makes Kofi "shit"? He's been in some really great matches.

I just don't like him in any form. His character does nothing for me, and I don't enjoy wrestling style. I get knocked a lot for saying this, but I dislike his 'jumpy' style as much as some hate those who 'flip' or are 'spot monkeys'. His spots he does in battle royals are cool, but it's about the only time I enjoy him. Like I said though, this is just purely MY opinion, and I don't expect everybody to agree with me, nor do I have issues with anybody who does like him.

Ruien
07-20-2014, 04:56 PM
Ummm, there is a large margin of more white guys in wrestling than black guys. I don't mean WWE, I mean in all of America. Wrestling is a primary white thing. It is like asking why a white guy does not win the most awards at the BET awards.

Anybody Thrilla
07-20-2014, 05:50 PM
BET awards are specifically for black entertainers, aren't they? That was kind of a dumb thing to compare it to.

Anybody Thrilla
07-20-2014, 05:54 PM
Unless WWE stands for White Wrestling Entertainment now.

Ruien
07-20-2014, 06:12 PM
There are white actors on BET though. Because the word black is in something does not mean it is strictly for black people.

Way to take a comparison to the extreme though. I am pretty sure you understood the point.

#1-norm-fan
07-20-2014, 07:23 PM
Ummm, there is a large margin of more white guys in wrestling than black guys. I don't mean WWE, I mean in all of America. Wrestling is a primary white thing. It is like asking why a white guy does not win the most awards at the BET awards.

That's another good point to Shadrick's posts. If you look at the number of black wrestlers compared to the number of white wrestlers, the percent that succeed and the percent that fail for odd reasons is just about the same I would think. If Dolph Ziggler were black you could replace Kofi with him and have the same exact argument.

#1-norm-fan
07-20-2014, 07:28 PM
BET awards are specifically for black entertainers, aren't they? That was kind of a dumb thing to compare it to.

It's Black Entertainment Television. As in entertainment for black people.

Not Black Entertainers Television as in television featuring only black entertainers.

It's still a more extreme example than WWE but I get what he's saying. lol

drave
07-20-2014, 07:57 PM
When was the last time Flair ever successfully came off the top rope without being tossed?

Savio
07-20-2014, 09:20 PM
1982

Emperor Smeat
07-20-2014, 09:31 PM
Spanish Announce team hiring bodyguards to prevent their table from getting smashed most of the time.

#1-norm-fan
07-20-2014, 11:12 PM
When was the last time Flair ever successfully came off the top rope without being tossed?

He did it in his match against HBK at WrestleMania.

Tom Guycott
07-21-2014, 12:15 AM
BET awards are specifically for black entertainers, aren't they? That was kind of a dumb thing to compare it to.

Tell that to Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke, and Jon B. They didn't get the memo.

Tom Guycott
07-21-2014, 12:54 AM
Not to deviate from the topic, but what makes Kofi "shit"? He's been in some really great matches.

I just don't like him in any form. His character does nothing for me, and I don't enjoy wrestling style. I get knocked a lot for saying this, but I dislike his 'jumpy' style as much as some hate those who 'flip' or are 'spot monkeys'. His spots he does in battle royals are cool, but it's about the only time I enjoy him. Like I said though, this is just purely MY opinion, and I don't expect everybody to agree with me, nor do I have issues with anybody who does like him.


Kofi's feud with Dolph was great. They traded victories, put on great matches, and you didn't know who would win. You got to see a mean streak from Kofi, just like in the Orton feud. Character development, woooo. You finding him shit is completely understandable, based off of what you've seen from him so far, and what he's been given to work with.

:y: to Shadrick on this.

I like Kofi, and I agree with Tazz Dan here because he has nothing to do. He's most comparable to Jeff Hardy. He was great at the next TLC spotfest where he would fall off the next even taller ladder, but other than that, he was pretty useless outside of getting the "take my shirt off so the 13 year old girls can scream" pop. Then he started getting shit to do. Time to promo. Time to interact. He got pushed. He got feuds. It made people care.

And Jeff's ladder stunts are much like Kofi's battle royal anti-elimination spots... but the day-in day-out purposeless "throw a bunch of spots in a match, then job" Kofi is boring. It works for RVD right now because RVD is a vet who basically comes back to help get younger guys over.

I still maintain that Dolph and Kofi should have been a PPV headlining feud by now, had WWE taken the time and effort to build both guys, instead of letting Ziggles hit the "concussion ceiling" and have Kingston fuck off somewhere down the card doing random shit.

He's a guy who would benefit from a character tweak. Not just a knee-jerk "heel turn", though that would be interesting to see if handled well and not shoehorned in without reason. This is why I also say I'd like to see Kofi become Sting's successor (crow or surfer- both could work, but preferably surfer): he can keep flying, but adopt a little more ground, add the SDD and the SDL into his arsenal, and give him a breath of fresh air instead of throwing him into yet another tag team then doing nothing with him.







Once again, on topic:

*** Eva Marie has been released from her WWE contract. We wish her the best in her future endeavors. We just hope those endeavors don't include wrestling.

*** Due to a clerical error, JTG is actually still employed by WWE. We apologize to JTG in such a gross clerical oversight. Continue the clock.

*** A tag team will stay a tag team in perpetuity, and will never doublecross one another for a singles run ever.

*** Heels beat down a face 2 on 1 in the ring. The lights go out.... then the lights come back on, and there is no surprise whatsoever. An announcement is made that it was just a temporary power outage.

*** Someone issues an open challenge to anyone anywhere in a manner that suggests that someone from another fed or UFC will accept their challenge. An actual person still under contract from that fed unexpectedly appears... Taz(z) vs. Awesome not withstanding... you know what, that counts, so nevermind.

*** Jim Ross screams "BAH GAWD!!! DON'T DO IT!!! THAT MAN'S GOT A FAMILY, DAMMIT!!!" and the wrestler rethinks his attack on his opponent due to JR's compelling argument.

XL
07-21-2014, 01:05 PM
Hardy had that intangible charisma, an "X factor" if you will. Kofi either doesn't have it or is really good at keeping it under wraps.

XL
07-21-2014, 01:07 PM
The refs/security/backstage personnel/cops manage to breakup a brawl at the first time of asking.

XL
07-21-2014, 01:18 PM
A guy banned/removed from the building doesn't gain/regain access to the building.

XL
07-21-2014, 05:19 PM
A heel champion gets himself disqualified twice in a 2-out-of-3 falls match.

Bad News Gertner
07-21-2014, 06:01 PM
Should the BET awards feature tons of obese white chicks, since it's for black people?

XL
07-22-2014, 05:49 AM
Looks like Kofi might just have got interesting (or something interesting is about to happen around him).

XL
07-22-2014, 05:59 PM
All this talk of racism against black guys, at least Henry and Booker have all held the albeit secondary World Championship. The true crime is the rampant anglophobia that WWE display. Why has there never been an English World Champion!? Huh!?

Brigstocke
07-22-2014, 07:06 PM
To go back to the discussion on Blacks not winning titles, There is a very simple reason.

Its bred into black people in the first world to believe that whites still hold them down in todays day and age. That the new generation of whites are still to be held accountable for the slave trade of long gone generations, and that the whites of today still owe the blacks of today for the misgivings of our ancestors.

They can't be champions because then what would 'Whitey' owe them? Its almost as if they are more comfortable living in the past than arriving in the new equal future..

Come on guys its Middle Easterns we look down upon now, Can't we all join forces and be racist towards them instead?

Then in 60-70 years we can have a discussion about why Arabs never win titles.

#1-norm-fan
07-22-2014, 08:03 PM
All this talk of racism against black guys, at least Henry and Booker have all held the albeit secondary World Championship. The true crime is the rampant anglophobia that WWE display. Why has there never been an English World Champion!? Huh!?

There's even more SEXISM in WWE! Women have their own title to compete for as to not have them ever even having the chance to get involved in the "superior" men's title scene. SOUND FAMILIAR???

http://www.gvpt.umd.edu/uslaner/Black%20and%20White%20Segregation.jpg

robbied34
07-23-2014, 03:07 PM
* A recently dethroned champion wins his 'rematch clause' match

Add your own, please.

A champ winning his rematch actually happened. it was when austin won the title back from kane on raw the night after the 1st blood match

Rammsteinmad
07-23-2014, 04:13 PM
When there's a big man in a battle royal and the announcers are always like "omg who's gonna eliminate Khali?!" or something along those lines... and then said big man never wins.

Rammsteinmad
07-23-2014, 04:13 PM
Obviously this may have happened back in the day, but rarely happens now.

XL
07-23-2014, 06:56 PM
A "Best of 5/7" Series that doesn't end in the final match.

Tom Guycott
07-24-2014, 12:21 AM
Hell, a best of 5 series where someone gets swept in 3 would be a good way to build an up-and-coming cocky heel off the back of an established face... constantly tormenting his opponent about getting swept. Especially over some form of championship.

Tainted wins would be great, but not mandatory.

Big Vic
07-24-2014, 12:19 PM
More than 2 divas matches happen on a card.

XL
07-27-2014, 05:39 PM
Two guys walking through the backstage area before a match actually bump into one another. Which you think would happen at least when they get to Gorilla.

Innovator
07-27-2014, 07:18 PM
A guy's music hits and he isn't within 5 seconds of the curtain

Tom Guycott
07-28-2014, 12:43 AM
A heel complains about his hair being pulled, and the face gets DQ'd on the spot.

cnoslim
07-28-2014, 03:29 PM
Christian having good workrate

DAMN iNATOR
07-28-2014, 03:54 PM
All this talk of racism against black guys, at least Henry and Booker have all held the albeit secondary World Championship. The true crime is the rampant anglophobia that WWE display. Why has there never been an English World Champion!? Huh!?

Regal fucked up his chance, and Wade "Bad News" Barrett could use another year or two and then I'd love to see him as the first English World Champion. Sucks that injury sidelined him right out of the IC title. Definitely felt like they were going to give him a long reign so as to give him a foundation for his future main event push.

XL
07-28-2014, 07:08 PM
What about Bulldog!? Huh!?

SlickyTrickyDamon
07-28-2014, 07:10 PM
A heel champion gets himself disqualified twice in a 2-out-of-3 falls match.

Most times one DQ in a 2/3 falls title match means the title can't be won anymore.

XL
07-28-2014, 07:14 PM
Does it? I can't ever recall that happening.

#1-norm-fan
07-28-2014, 07:47 PM
I can't either. Then again I've noticed STD likes to randomly clarify or "correct" things that don't need it sometimes so he could be completely pulling that fact out of his ass.

drave
07-28-2014, 09:09 PM
No one ever stays dead from buried alive matches.

Simple Fan
08-03-2014, 03:40 PM
Raw commentators call a whole match.