Would the WWE Network Picking up "TNA/Impact!" be a good business move? [Archive]

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Big Vic

07-28-2014, 11:40 AM

They might get a whole new bump of subscribers in a critical time when their first 6 month deal is close to coming up, they will also have a second set of pay-per-views to air, which could retain their current subscribers who are on the fence.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 11:52 AM

LOL

You really think there are people who would buy the WWE network just to see TNA? If anything those hardcore fans arleady have the network.

And the WWE would never put a rival promotion on their network.

Vince would need and want full control over the product.

And also, LOL - That TNA would be a bump to the network.

Mutie thread.

07-28-2014, 12:09 PM

Yeah, Vince isn't gonna pay to have TNA on his Network, and if Vince isn't paying, then there's no upside for TNA.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 12:11 PM

"Hey im going to spend X amount of money to produce a show that will get the same ratings as the stuff im already paying to make (NXT)".

Vince Killed off WCW, the biggest company ever besides WWF, you think he would give two shits about a redneck promotion full of his rejects?

Outsider

07-28-2014, 12:12 PM

In terms of a business move, adding more wrestling to a network that they are struggling to sell to wrestling fans with a (albeit small) pre-existing fan base and recongiseable names, it would be smart.

So there is no way in hell they will do it.

whiteyford

07-28-2014, 12:18 PM

Why would he pay for it, if they go bust he buys up the name, and more importantly the video library, for a pittance and is then free to do what he wants with it.

Big Vic

07-28-2014, 12:19 PM

Vince Killed off WCW, the biggest company ever besides WWF, you think he would give two shits about a redneck promotion full of his rejects?
Vince wanted to keep WCW going under his control but could not due to not being able to get a time slot for programing. I would think Vince would do the same for TNA also if it on his network it means it won't be on another network (like WGN or FX) and have access the their video library. I'm sure out of the 1M fans that watch TNA a good percentage of them would probably buy the network to continue watching the product.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 12:22 PM

Vince wanted to keep WCW going under his control but could not due to not being able to get a time slot for programing. I would think Vince would do the same for TNA also if it on his network it means it won't be on another network (like WGN or FX) and have access the their video library. I'm sure out of the 1M fans that watch TNA a good percentage of them would probably buy the network to continue watching the product.

And most of the 1M fans are also existing WWE fans, so hes not gaining 1M viewers.

He was going to make Smackdown a WCW show. But he didnt see the money in it and killed that plan.

TNA is a non factor. WWE is going to go on with or without them and there is no money to be made with TNA on the WWE network.

Outsider

07-28-2014, 12:22 PM

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 12:23 PM

Seriously...1Mpeople watch TNA on Spike...I doubt even 1/10th of them would pay MORE MONEY to keep watching.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 12:24 PM

Because putting another wrestling show on the network will make more fans by the network and make the company more money.

And before the response 'people won't pay $10 to watch TNA' I agree, but people who aren't paying at the moment may be more likely to if they get another new show as well.

Like I said, not arguing it is going to happen though. In fact quite the opposite. I think the buying of the video library is probable though.

So you actually think that if Vince decided an extra wrestling show is what he needs that he would pay some other company to put a show on his network, instead of just producing another NXT show, or another concept?

Big Vic

07-28-2014, 12:30 PM

Seriously...1Mpeople watch TNA on Spike...I doubt even 1/10th of them would pay MORE MONEY to keep watching.
I base this on nothing but I think at least 250,000 of that 1M would.

I feel this would be a good shot to get more subscribers on his network, TNA isn't the best company in the world but it does have some die hard fans, (See TLP) I feel if WWE offered TNA a "ECW on TNN" type deal they would no doubt profit from the deal

slik

07-28-2014, 12:39 PM

It might boost subscribers slightly but it would be odd for WWE to advertise another promotion they had no control over the production of.

Everything on the Network that is live or new is an in-house program.

07-28-2014, 12:40 PM

I look at it this way... these are the true dark days of TNA. They don't get the fan fair they use to and their biggest stars are pretty much gone or one foot out the door. ROH at this point has more value.

As I said in another post, I hope they make a comeback because there are alot of jobs on the line, but otherwise unless something REALLY changes, they don't have much value left.

Outsider

07-28-2014, 12:41 PM

So you actually think that if Vince decided an extra wrestling show is what he needs that he would pay some other company to put a show on his network, instead of just producing another NXT show, or another concept?

People would feel they are getting something 'different', and that will attract people to the network.

You are right that they could just produce more content themselves, but historically WWE are pretty bad at that. NXT is an exception, where it does work, but normally anything other than RAW or Smackdown is essentially just another show for jobbers, a glorified re-packed Heat. And you would have to question the capacity of the WWE to put on another show at the moment, with budget cuts already happening.

There is also business sense in paying other people to produce your show - you are just paying for the show. If it fails, your loses are far less.

slik

07-28-2014, 12:41 PM

I think something like WGN that is trying to build their brand with programs like Salem could be a wise choice for TNA.

FX would be great but I don't see it happening tbh.

Lock Jaw

07-28-2014, 12:48 PM

Only way this would happen is if Vince bought the company and thus got creative control over it.

Which isn't going to happen.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 01:36 PM

correct Lock jaw

How many wrestlers never appeared on WWE programming because of control issues...and you think Vince would put up another company? Come on. You guys are being purposefully ignorant.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 01:38 PM

I base this on nothing but I think at least 250,000 of that 1M would.

I feel this would be a good shot to get more subscribers on his network, TNA isn't the best company in the world but it does have some die hard fans, (See TLP) I feel if WWE offered TNA a "ECW on TNN" type deal they would no doubt profit from the deal

You base your assumptions on nothing, then make more assumptions about what other companies may want.

So basically you freely admit you are a moron pulling this all out of your own ass.

Look at this message board. 9/10 people think this would never happen and I bet 9/10 wont pay to see TNA. And these are the most hardcore fans.

yet based purely on your made up logic 250K new subscribers would sign up for WWE network.

Free PPV cant get them to sign up, but watching sub par cable based wrestling will?

you are a moron

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 01:39 PM

Seriously, a free week demo didnt spike them 250K subscribers, but TNA would? Who cant even get 100 people at a house show.

Riiiiiight

Big Vic

07-28-2014, 01:48 PM

Paying 10 dollars for weekly programming and spending 30 dollars to go to a house show are 2 totally different things moron.
A free demo and new programming content are 2 totally different things moron.
I pulled that 25% out of my ass just the same as you pulled the 10% out of yours. Believe it or not there are some (crazy) people who prefer TNA over WWE.

Big Vic

07-28-2014, 01:55 PM

100,000 hours of new content plus new weekly programming have 0 chance of gaining subscribers

Shisen Kopf

07-28-2014, 02:03 PM

I would cancel my subscription if lol TNA is on the WWE network. Who wants to watch that garbage? If they are gonna add programming, add all the Raws and Nitros from the Monday night wars era. Don't add that utter shit. Goddamn this thread has angered me so much #seriousbusiness

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 02:06 PM

WWE fans spend 30+ dollars to go to house shows, and they pay 10 dollars a month for network access.

TNA white trash fans dont spend money on shows, and wont on the network access.

And lets not pretend it costs more than 12 dollars to go to a TNA BaseBrawl Event.

and if you prefer TNA to the WWE I can only assume you prefer giant cocks in at least 2 of the holes in your body at once.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 02:07 PM

Seriously, anyone who "prefers" TNA to the WWE please chime in and I will confirm your status as a human fecal stain

Big Vic

07-28-2014, 02:12 PM

I already said half of the TLP people do, Jabba, AfterLife, and Narc.

Dunno if Narc still does since I haven't heard the show in a while but he used to.

The Rogerer

07-28-2014, 02:32 PM

Spike pay TNA money because people watch TNA and adverts, so advertisers pay Spike money.

WWE would pay TNA money so that people would clog up the Network bandwidth watching shitty TNA shows and practically no-one new would subscribe.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 02:37 PM

I already said half of the TLP people do, Jabba, AfterLife, and Narc.

Dunno if Narc still does since I haven't heard the show in a while but he used to.

I dont know or care what the fuck TLP means, but this is my point exactly.

Jabba, Afterlife and Narc are the fucking dregs of society and dont count as people.

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 02:38 PM

Scoreboard:

Fecal Stains who like TNA : 4

Normal People: 0

Heisenberg

07-28-2014, 02:45 PM

There are some that watch TNA to boycott WWE, so I don't know. The allure of being bought out by WWE isn't there, TNA doesn't touch WCW.

If Cena pulled a Hogan and went to TNA then we'd see the vicious cycle repeat

Big Vic

07-28-2014, 02:50 PM

Scoreboard:

Fecal Stains who like TNA : 4

Normal People: 0
4? I hope you are not including me. I can't watch the show, but recognize some people like it.

Emperor Smeat

07-28-2014, 05:43 PM

I'd say no to buying the promotion considering they already have NXT as their source of alternative WWE-type wrestling.

TNA's tape library would be a better purchase mostly because the Network benefits by having more stuff and the WWE already owns the bulk of wrestling's taped history.

Sepholio

07-28-2014, 08:13 PM

Hell no. Vince gonna let TNA tank then call up all the decent talents they have and offer them spots on NXT.

#1-norm-fan

07-28-2014, 08:31 PM

Scoreboard:

Fecal Stains who like TNA : 4

Normal People: 0

Wait. So they're winning???

Hanso Amore

07-28-2014, 08:46 PM

Golf scoring

Fignuts

07-29-2014, 01:10 AM

Would love it if WWE bought TNA's library. Their booking may be a joke, but they've always had a good roster, and there have been a lot of great matches throughout the years.

Wouldn't mind seeing that on the network at all.

I think more people would watch TNA matches than old WCCW matches.

SlickyTrickyDamon

07-29-2014, 01:15 AM

Yeah the tape library. Let it die.

Shadrick

07-29-2014, 02:15 AM

Golf scoring

I lol'd

Mr. Nerfect

07-29-2014, 08:14 AM

There is only a handful of talent that I see the WWE really being interested in.

* Austin Aries might get a shot even though the WWE passed on him at least once before. He's great in the ring and charismatic on the microphone. I could see him randomly attacking Daniel Bryan one week and getting everyone's panties wet.

* The Dudley Boyz and The Hardy Boyz might get shots again. The Hardys have been spotty employees in the past, but their merchandise money might get them a brief run. Jeff Hardy left the company on his own terms and was a big star for them at the time. I can see Bubba Ray and D-Von getting a New Age Outlaws-like run before they become producers/trainers for the company.

* Kenny King might get a shot in developmental. The company has passed on him for a while, but he's shown himself to be a good worker and he's got a personality. Still, they might just pass because he doesn't add enough "must see" for the WWE.

* Beer Money might get a shot. They are good workers and have an interesting dynamic. I could see them adding a lot to the tag team division actually.

* Derrick Bateman might get another shot, if the reason he was released wasn't for an attitude or something like that.

* Kurt Angle might get a Legends Deal or something. If he can still wrestle, they might try and make some money out of him.

* Magnus might get a developmental deal. The guy is young and has developed nicely. He could become useful to the WWE.

* Brittany might get a shot as a female talent down in NXT.

* Oh, and Bobby Lashley, if he swallows his pride. There is money to be made in a guy his size returning.

* MVP if he is willing to play a mid-card role. But the roster is pretty stacked, so I can see the company just passing on him.

Big Vic

07-29-2014, 09:32 AM

Lashley vs Lesnar would be alright for a B PPV or Survivor Series.

Dukelorange

07-29-2014, 03:35 PM

On the women side, I think Tiffany and Brittany would get in. The thing is WWE doesn't really like women with a lot of tattoos. So that eliminates like half of the girls...

Destor

07-30-2014, 01:56 AM

Why would picking up a show no ones heard of be a good move?

Rollermacka

07-30-2014, 02:14 PM

I would say from a "fan" perspective, I'd say no. Competition creates a better product, and if there's only one national promotion it pretty much becomes a monopoly again. I say if TNA finds a new home, Jarrett's promotion gets tv, and some of the smaller televised promotions get larger distribution, it will make more variety and that will help the business as a whole

Nicky Fives

07-30-2014, 02:40 PM

for the handful of great matches they'd be getting, they'd be getting an awful lot of crap to counterbalance.....

drave

07-30-2014, 02:51 PM

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