Adam Rose is fucking awful

[Bad News Gertner]

Discuss.

[road doggy dogg]

His gimmick would be ever-so-slightly less fucking horrible if it came out in February 2013 instead of yearsbehind.com and looking utterly cringeworthy

[Bad News Gertner]

I liked his debut, but man did it ever get tiresome fast.

Kinda like Shisen's KOTF campaign.

THAT'S RIGHT SHISEN! IM CALLING YOU OUT!

[Heisenberg]

This was established a long time ago, this might be stick worthy.

I'm glad he didn't come out last night, if he did I was still out rocking a piss.

He's been in developmental forever hasn't he?

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah for like 4 years

[cnoslim]

Dont be a lemon guys.....be a rosebud

[whiteyford]

It works on NXT, but everything does pretty much, it also got pretty much abandoned in terms of creative after about 4 weeks.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

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Been saying Adam Rose had a short shelf life since day one.

Crowd involvement singing a song didn't last that long for Fandango either. At least that isn't all of Fandango's gimmick though. It is the entirety of Adam Rose's gimmick.

[Heisenberg]

I'm grow bitter each time The Ascension stays and others get called up

[road doggy dogg]

@STD: I agree, these kinds of fads are fun for a brief time but they have no substance or sustainability.

In fairness though, I lumped DBry's "Yes!" thing in the same category and its had a bit more staying power.

[Ruien]

Agreed. Hated it the first night he came out.

[Bad News Gertner]

That being said, if Tyler Breeze fails I will cry.

[#1-norm-fan]

He has a fun gimmick and he's comfortable enough in it to pull it off without looking unnatural and awkward.

Unlike that untalented fag who plays JBL's nephew on the JBL-Cole Show.

[Bad News Gertner]

I will murder you and your family!

Vote Gertner for KOTF

[cnoslim]

He has a fun gimmick and he's comfortable enough in it to pull it off without looking unnatural and awkward.

Unlike that untalented fag who plays JBL's nephew on the JBL-Cole Show.

I agree, i find his gimmick entertaining -- Adam Rose future wwe world heavyweight champion

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That being said, if Tyler Breeze fails I will cry.

Breeze is not one-dimensional but I share this sentiment.

[DrCrawford]

Agreed 110%

[Emperor Smeat]

Should have kept the Leo Krugger character but the Adam Rose character would be better if they didn't just keep having him just be there for no real reason.

The Rose-Zeb/Swagger feud had some potential but got quickly dropped.

[#1-norm-fan]

Exactly. It's not the gimmick or the guy behind the gimmick that sucks. It's the fact that they've done nothing with him. Any character gets boring quickly when they're not involved in anything remotely interesting.

[Lock Jaw]

I liked that one match he had as Leo Kruger where he essentially just got beat up by Cesaro for 15 minutes.

[Simple Fan]

Agree should have stayed Leo Kruger then people could take him serious. He is a good in ring performer but the gimmick is just dumb.

[ron the dial]

he's pretty "bleh" in the ring. i've always thought so. i don't hate the adam rose gimmick, but creative isn't actually trying to get it over. so, couple in ring work i don't care for and a gimmick that's floundering (whether or not it's his fault), and i'm not interested.

[Bad News Gertner]

Adam Rose is basically the "B Sharps": hilarious the first time but gets progessivly less funny each time you see him.

Hope someone gets that reference.

[Shisen Kopf]

Adam Rose acts like a giant homo. And that doesn't make the world work #oldschoolshisen #KOTF

[Vastardikai]

Nothing he does in the ring looks particularly impactful. NOTHING.

I think even Jeff Jarrett "hits the ropes harder" than he does.

Like I said in another thread, the only feud for him that looks compelling at this point is if he feuded with the rabbit. I don't mean the guy in the rabbit suit. I mean the actual rabbit.

From there, maybe have KENTA come out and murder the rosebuds.

And from there, send him back to NXT. Call up Tyler Breeze, sit back, and count all the money that pours in.

[Sepholio]

It's the fucking occulus mirror.

[el bobbo]

Adam Rose is basically the "B Sharps": hilarious the first time but gets progessivly less funny each time you see him.

Hope someone gets that reference.

Simpsons?

[hb2k]

He sucked balls as Leo Kruger. Dime a dozen. This character as an obnoxious douchebag heel, almost a Honky Tonk Man-type, would have had more legs.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Simpsons?

Can't be. That episode is great every time I watch it.

Awww it's a grammy.

[Tazz Dan]

I like Adam Rose. It's a fun gimmick, and it's different. I'm not ashamed to feel this way.

[screech]

Not an Adam Rose fan one bit, character or wrestler. Doesn't do anything for me.

[drave]

Not an Adam Rose fan one bit, character or wrestler. Doesn't do anything for me.

He doesn't make your loins frothy? Sounds like you are a LEMON!!!

[screech]

Not a bit, you frothy anus #CSL

[drave]

A Google Image search of Frothy Anus produces results of Rick Santorum. Alas, I do not have time to draw a frothy anus for you to pyro explode :(

[Heisenberg]

Takis and Monster Energy sponsored Mod post:

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We're all equals here, until someone gets bothered by an unwarranted touch.

[FourFifty]

Adam Rose has some potential, at least on the comedy team. I just want to see WWE do something with him. Have him feud with Sandow, or any other lower card Lemon.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was on board with the character until it became one-dimensional on the main roster. The same thing happened with Emma. The minds behind the main show don't get what makes these NXT characters click. At the rate they are going, Tyler Breeze will come up a gimmick where he runs in each match because he doesn't want to risk injury and losing his modelling contract.

Adam Rose hasn't had a feud since he's been on the main shows. He's been a guy who comes out, says his catchphrase, and adds a silly hat occasionally. Let him talk and let him show off eccentricity. Play up the fact that he is undefeated and is clearly a genius who is putting his opponents off. Speculate on just how good the guy is and just why he has chosen to act so aloof.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think they may have freaked out about losing Santino and just made him the new king of the comedy faces who only does comedy matches and segments but doesn't actually participate in storylines. Which would be fine. Except he's no Santino. Santino was a fucking amazing performer who had legs because he was able to transcend the character and pull off comedy outside of his goofy Italian stereotype schtick. Rose is good at pulling off the gimmick... but I don't think he has the skills to transcend the gimmick once it gets stale and just be entertaining without relying on it.

[Bad News Gertner]

The thing with Santino that made him great is he was unintentionally funny. That's what Rose is missing in that role.

[DAMN iNATOR]

He's got a good look and his theme is awesome, and the Kojak-esque red lollipop always makes me smile, but I feel like maybe he should be sent back to developmental. His gimmick is alright but it just kind of only works because hey, everybody parties...

[ron the dial]

that shows how much creative needs to be sent back to developmental.

[Cool King]

I've never liked Adam Rose. I find the character to be insanely annoying, and as for his in-ring stuff, I honestly can't comment, as I actually can't remember any of his matches since he was called up. I think he's had about eight matches since debuting in May.

I don't know what it is, but the guys that have been called up from NXT just don't seem to work out in one way or another, and personally speaking, I've found the majority of them to be pretty bad. I can only think of two/three people that are on the main roster now that came from NXT that I genuinely like, and they are Rusev and Lana and maybe Luke Harper.

The majority of them I don't like, and some I can tolerate. I've said it before that I don't watch NXT, so all I go by is what's posted on WWE.com about them and what people here post about them. I've also said this before about the NXT roster, that the guys on the roster just don't do anything for me. :-\

They don't "jump out" at me, or make me think "wow, he looks cool. I wonder what he's like in the ring?" or whatever. They just make me cringe at how bad their names are, or how they look, or whatever catchphrase they've got. Also, why do half of the NXT Divas have names that sound like they would be pornstar names? The worst one being Alexa Bliss.

[whiteyford]

Alexa Bliss is my future ex wife so you take that back!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Alexa Bliss is my future ex wife so you take that back!

Settle down there, JBL.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Seriously, though, I just cringed every time when he used to refer to a diva as "the next Mrs. JBL". Almost as bad as his "I gotta get me one of those!" knee-slapper.

[teamXtremist]

Don't be a lemon,be a rose bud

[Cool King]

1. rosebud

The appearance of one's rectum after fisting. The internal tissue pulls out beyond the sphincter muscle. The bright red to pinkish tissue looks like a rosebud.

"That dude takes alot of fists up his ass- check out that rosebud."

[ron the dial]

1. Lemon

An anime/manga based fan-work that depicts sexual acts.

Often shortened to simply "Lemon", the term is actually derived from a hentai (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hentai) anime in 1984, "Cream Lemon", which told a story about a girl called Ami and her relationships.

Since then "Lemon" has been used to refer to all sexually-oriented fanworks, in particular fan-fiction.

"That site has a few lemon fics"

[ron the dial]

i'd rather be a lemon

[Mr. Nerfect]

Almost everything that was meant to endear us to Rose were bland catchphrases, keep in mind. He just needs to do something a little more and seem like a real person.

[drave]

He should feud with serious business Rusev after his and Swagger's feud is over.

Just think it would be nice to actually (maybe) get a reaction out of Rusev rather than angry frown or nothing at all and Rose's character could do it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I actually think Rose would make a great heel down the line. He's already proven he can do creepy with his Leo Kruger character. Why does Rose like to party all the time? What is he running from? A more cult-leader and dangerously hedonistic Rose could be compelling.

[Innovator]

It sucks that his ceiling was his debut with the real song

[Hanso Amore]

It sucks that his ceiling was his debut with the real song

Lets be honest, he has never been good or entertaining, people just loved his entrance.

Hes absolute shit. His vignettes were god awful. he has no character or angle.

but Full Sail went ape shit on his entrance, which could have been anyone doing it and WWE hot shotted him.

[The Rogerer]

Wrestling seems to have this idea where you can stick any old schmoe in a role and it'll work out as long as they 'click' and 'put their own personality into it'. Can't wait to see Owenbrown as lead in Expendables 4.

[Innovator]

Lets be honest, he has never been good or entertaining, people just loved his entrance.

Hes absolute shit. His vignettes were god awful. he has no character or angle.

but Full Sail went ape shit on his entrance, which could have been anyone doing it and WWE hot shotted him.

Those reasons are the why I'm fearful for the Vaudevillains

[Hanso Amore]

They will be horrible too

[hb2k]

Problem with the NXT guys is that the Full Sail audience is a terrible focus group to see what will work - they're almost exactly the same as the old Impact Zone, a completely false environment with non-paying customers marking out over whatever zany thing they can giggle about. People marking out for Emma's dance or Rose entrance are no better than the Impact Zone fans who used to chant for Lance Hoyt constantly.

Rose in NXT had no depth or personality either. He was always a one note joke, and they need to get this idea out of their heads that just because something clicks there, it can click in WWE, because there have been far more failures than successes so far. Until this heel run started, Paige was another failure - they thought she could appeal to the masses because she got some good reactions in NXT. Throw her into the WWE context and she was drowning.

[XL]

To be fair, Paige was cut off at the knees with the gimmick they gave her. In NXT she was an anti-Diva; something "different" to the cookie-cutter, dime-a-dozen Divas on the main roster/types that WWE usually goes for. When she came up they played it like she was out of her depth, she barely got any offense in matches and came across as a bit of a fluke. She also didn't really speak, and when she did it was all "I'm so happy to be here".

Same for Emma, really.

On the opposite end of the scale, Bray came up gimmick intact and it all worked very well once he found his feet with the in-ring work. Having him lose all of his big matches (sans the match vs. Bryan at Royal Rumble) has done more harm to Bray.

Adam arose, I dunno. I dig the gimmick, they just don't seem to know what to do with it.