Is New Jack the most popular wrestler to never step foot in WCW or WWE

[Bad News Gertner]

One of those random thoughts I had watching ECW.

It's completely ridiculous, but it's probably New Jack

[Juan]

Probably still Sting, for now

[Shisen Kopf]

Fuck you dude. MG Hurst.

[Shisen Kopf]

Sting was never in wcw??

[cnoslim]

I'll say yes just because the lucky bastard got to bang terri runnels

[Bad News Gertner]

Christ, that was supposed to say WCW or WWE. Topic fail.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably some TNA dude is more popular than New Jack

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol name one.

ECW was pretty big, and the WWE releasing all this ECW footage even more people know him, plus shit like Beyond the Mat and his stabbing people on youtube and beating a 70 year old man with a baseball bat.

[Lock Jaw]

Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, James Storm.... probably all more popular than New Jack.

[Lock Jaw]

Wait, AJ Styles was in WCW so :foc: him.

[road doggy dogg]

I'd say probably AJ Styles but I wouldn't dispute if you said otherwise

[road doggy dogg]

Wait, AJ Styles was in WCW so :foc: him.

was he? I did not know that

I retract my post as well

EGG on FACE here :o

[ron the dial]

grizzly redwood

[Shisen Kopf]

Magnum TA. He rassled in the NWA but never WCW.

[Lock Jaw]

He was part of the tag team division in the dying months....

Air Styles and Air Paris....... AIR RAID

[Shisen Kopf]

I win. /thread

[Dark One]

http://i.imgur.com/3nntqib.png

[Bad News Gertner]

Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, James Storm.... probably all more popular than New Jack.

Samoa Joe wrestled on Velocity

[Bad News Gertner]

Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bobby Roode, James Storm.... probably all more popular than New Jack.

I'd bet my house that New Jack was more popular than Bobby Roode and James Storm.

[McLegend]

There is no way it can be New Jack.

[#1-norm-fan]

It seems like someone had to have gained SOME semblance of popularity somehow without setting foot in WWE or WCW. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head though.

[McLegend]

Magnum TA

He was never in WCW.

[Bad News Gertner]

James Storm wrestled in WCW and Robert Roode wrestled in the WWE

[Bad News Gertner]

Magnum TA

He was never in WCW.

NWA/WCW is basically the same thing. He wrestled in the big two. WCW became WCW in 1986, the same year Magnum got into his accident.

[Bad News Gertner]

It seems like someone had to have gained SOME semblance of popularity somehow without setting foot in WWE or WCW. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head though.

Lol I told ya, New Jack seems ridiculous but it's very hard to come up with a different answer.

[#1-norm-fan]

I guess it depends on how you define popularity. If it's just within the wrestling world, it could definitely be New Jack. If we're counting mainstream recognition, there are guys on TV and in movies who could win out.

[McLegend]

NWA/WCW is basically the same thing. He wrestled in the big two.

Fair enough

[Simple Fan]

Lol name one.

ECW was pretty big, and the WWE releasing all this ECW footage even more people know him, plus shit like Beyond the Mat and his stabbing people on youtube and beating a 70 year old man with a baseball bat.

The only TNA guy that wold come close is Samoa Joe

[McLegend]

Was Steve Corino in WCW?

[Bad News Gertner]

I guess it depends on how you define popularity. If it's just within the wrestling world, it could definitely be New Jack. If we're counting mainstream recognition, there are guys on TV and in movies who could win out.

I'm defining it as people know who he is.

Lol like I said, name one.

[Savio]

Probably Bruiser Brody

[Bad News Gertner]

Was Steve Corino in WCW?

Corino wrestles matches in the WWF

[McLegend]

Even if Steve Corino was never in WCW he will probably not be dubbed as popular as New Jack.

So I will lose again

[McLegend]

Corino wrestles matches in the WWF

Son of a dick

[Bad News Gertner]

probably Bruiser Brody

Brody wrestled in the NWA.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm defining it as people know who he is.

Lol like I said, name one.

Well if that's the case, more people know who Eric Young is than New Jack.

He's got some show on Animal Planet that is relatively popular. My fucking mom knows who he is.

[#1-norm-fan]

But of course he probably jobbed on an episode of Jakked or something.

[Bad News Gertner]

You basically have to find someone who was completely independant (I consider ECW to be independant)

[McLegend]

Simon Diamond

[Bad News Gertner]

But of course he probably jobbed on an episode of Jakked or something.

Close: Sunday Night Heat and I saw him in a tag team against Palumbo and Stamboli on Velocity.

[Savio]

Brody wrestled in the NWA.
Well that takes part of TNA and part of ECWs timeline then

[Shisen Kopf]

Frank Gotch and Georg Hackenschmidt

[Bad News Gertner]

Im positive Simon and Swinger wrestled in a Dark Match in the WWF. That being said, New Jack was more popular

[#1-norm-fan]

Simon Diamond

He wasn't as popular as New Jack.

It couldn't be an ECW guy. Anyone in ECW as popular as New Jack would have at least stepped foot in WWE or WCW.

[Taft]

it's totes new jack

[Shisen Kopf]

Mass Transit

[Bad News Gertner]

Well that takes part of TNA and part of ECWs timeline then

Should probably state the topic as post 1986 Territory area.

[Lock Jaw]

Rockstar Spud more popular

[#1-norm-fan]

I've got the answer...

Andy Kaufman.

[Savio]

Im positive Simon and Swinger wrestled in a Dark Match in the WWF.
So did new jack

[Shisen Kopf]

Every match New Jack rassled was a dark match....ey-oh!

[Vastardikai]

Kenta Kobashi.

[Vastardikai]

And I wouldn't call what New Jack does "wrestling."

[Bad News Gertner]

When did New Jack wrestle in a dark match? If so then this has been a complete waste of fucking time.

[Bad News Gertner]

I've got the answer...

Andy Kaufman.

Kaufman appeared in the WWF if you can believe it

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Wait, AJ Styles was in WCW so :foc: him.

AJ Styles was in WWE too.

[#1-norm-fan]

I can't believe it.

[Bad News Gertner]

In other news, Slater Gator just beat Goldust and Stardust on Main Event.

Slater Gator baby!

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, I skimmed through cagematch.net and found no New Jack matches for WWE or WCW.

[Bad News Gertner]

I can't believe it.

Yuppers. Vince actually promoted Kaufman vs Lawler on WWF television and did an interview with Kaufman

[Savio]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread250636/pg1

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

False premise of a thread. New Jack was NOT a wrestler. He wasn't even a brawler. He was just a propsmith.

[Bad News Gertner]

New Jack was awesome. The Gangstas were bad fucking ass.

[Shisen Kopf]

Mohammed Ali---boom. Winner!

[Bad News Gertner]

Ali fought Gorilla Monsoon

[Bad News Gertner]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread250636/pg1

Lol he basically wrestled in front of Pat Patterson

[Bad News Gertner]

This thread idea sounded so much less complicated in my head. Fuck it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Set up to fail hahaha

[Bad News Gertner]

The answer to this and every question is Rock and Roll Buck Zumhofe./end thread.

[Vastardikai]

New Jack was awesome. The Gangstas were bad fucking ass.

WWE signed the only member of the Gangstas that was worth a shit in the ring.

[Bad News Gertner]

You'd better recognize!

[Shisen Kopf]

Ali fought Gorilla Monsoon

That was WWWF. You said WWE. #jewlawyerpost

[Vastardikai]

You'd better recognize!

Exactly.

[ron the dial]

how did i forget buck zumhofe?! #FreeBuck

[Bad News Gertner]

A miscarriage of justice

[Bad News Gertner]

Im gonna base my King of the Forum platform on the release of Buck Zumhofe back into society.

[ron the dial]

i need him to bring his half awful normal sized wrestlers/half midget wrestler promotion back to my hometown for more mediocre action set on a sand volleyball court!

still can't believe i met him and his daughter. one of the weirdest anecdotes of my life.

[Bad News Gertner]

This horrible thread is almost at 3 pages.

I remember when Poit said none of my topic threads ever got responses.

Who's laughing now!!!!!

[Bad News Gertner]

i need him to bring his half awful normal sized wrestlers/half midget wrestler promotion back to my hometown for more mediocre action set on a sand volleyball court!

still can't believe i met him and his daughter. one of the weirdest anecdotes of my life.

Weirdest or greatest? You shook hands with a legend. Lol still love your Buck Zumhofe encounter.

[#1-norm-fan]

Abraham Lincoln

[ron the dial]

yeah i guess i didn't technically meet his daughter; she was just standing right there. he probably told her she wasn't allowed to talk to the locals.

[ron the dial]

(i'm still trying to think of a legit answer here. i have nothing.)

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol she probably was going to slip you a note " please help, my dad rapes me every night", to which you'd reply "Hey Buck, can I buy you another beer"

[ron the dial]

part of me really wants this shirt

http://www.defunkd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/rock.gif

[Bad News Gertner]

Haha it's an awesome shirt

[Bad News Gertner]

Col. DeBeers. I win.

[Droford]

I think its clearly Austin Aries

[Fignuts]

I'll say yes just because the lucky bastard got to bang terri runnels

That was recently. Have you seen Terri Runnels recently?

[Shisen Kopf]

Col. DeBeers. I win.

Owenbrown's fav rassler!

[whiteyford]

Ian Rotten.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

WWE signed the only member of the Gangstas that was worth a shit in the ring.

0.o

They signed Mustafa?

[whiteyford]

D Lo before the chest protector

[Tom Guycott]

Samoa Joe wrestled on Velocity

If you're counting one-off jobber matches of the Velocity/Heat variety, then AJ Styles was eliminated even without the Air Raid reference.


What the heck ever happened to Air Paris, anyway?

[Big Vic]

Brody wrestled in the NWA.
New Jack Wrestled for TNA in 2003 when they were a part of the NWA

[Bad News Gertner]

Hey Savior

[Big Vic]

http://ka.richtaur.com/ani_iaste.gif

[Vastardikai]

D Lo before the chest protector

Hell, D-Lo before he was an extra in the Nation of Domination.

[Heisenberg]

Moderator Visit:

Hey guys, just making sure everyone is getting along ok in here, call if you need anything.

Hope the readers here aren't getting touched unwarranted at home. PM me if you are and need help or an edit, thanks.

[FourFifty]

Was Hayabusa or The Giant Baba ever in WWE/WCW?

[Shisen Kopf]

Baba had wrestled for Vincent J. McMahon in the United States in the early 1960s, unsuccessfully challenging NWA champion Buddy Rogers for the world title, and returning to face Bruno Sammartino for the WWWF title in 1963 in Madison Square Garden. Bruno retained, defeating Baba.--this was actually mine but Wikipedia plagiarized it from me. Assholes.

[Big Vic]

Johnny Fairplay is more popular than New Jack

[Bad News Gertner]

Fourfifty tried to molest me with his greedy jew fingers

[FourFifty]

Fourfifty tried to molest me with his greedy jew fingers

Tried?

[Emperor Smeat]

Rockstar Spud and if doesn't by the time TNA is done, he will just challenge New Jack in a "Most popular wrestler to never step foot in WCW or WWE" match to prove that he is.

[Ruien]

Does Dixie Carter count? If not I would say Abyss has a shot at being more popular.

[James Steele]

David Von Erich

[James Steele]

Verne Gagne

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

David Von Erich wrestled once in a WWF show at MSG.

[Seth82]

Verne Gagne appeared numerous times in WWF at MSG during the 70's

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nP-cYhd6mCU/UmGPcYizzwI/AAAAAAAABpI/NpOLi_d4uUs/s1600/verne.png

[James Steele]

*WWWF which was ran by a different man than who ran WWF

[Bad News Gertner]

Stupid thread. Ugh.

[#1-norm-fan]

Verne Gagne also appeared in WWE. Hall of Fame.

If Andy Kaufman doesn't count because he appeared on WWF TV for an interview...

[Bad News Gertner]

This idea sounded so much better in my head

[FourFifty]

What this thread boils down to is this question....

Which person that no one gives a shit about do you like the most? Someone who wrestled for a specific territory, someone who never wrestled in America, someone in TNA, or someone who in their prime couldn't even job on Shotgun Saturday Night?

[Heisenberg]

Moderator Duty Post:

FourFifty,

Hey champion, I hope these new accusations posted against you are untrue, it would break my heart to edit some sense into it. Unwanted touch and advances will not be tolerated. It'd break my heart to stop the flow of wrestling info for a bit to settle this dispute.