Sting and Undertaker

[Razzamajazz]

Ahem.

Please remember this thread 13 weeks from now.



Thank you.

[Mercenary]

Won't happen

[Franchise]

No chance.

Even if Undertaker returned and some how was able to fight at WM which I think is highly unlikely, it won't be against Sting.

Without the streak the prospect of that clash is truly dead in the water, it wouldn't have the hype surrounding it etc.

IF he returns I have always been adamant it should be to avenge his defeat against Lesnar so as to say he defeated all his Mania opponents and draw a line under that. However the prospect of that looks slim........the rumours are that Lesnar will hold the title until WM and then drop it to the Rumble winner (assuming a singles match).

That would mean Taker would return as a surprise entrant or otherwise to the Royal Rumble, win it and then feud with Lesnar. This would be a ridiculous move on the part of WWE to allow Taker whose appearances over the last two years account for minutes, over say someone like Reigns (who should really have won the RR this year) or Wyatt, or even Ambrose who have been busting their asses week in week out.

Undertaker's career is done. Once the streak ended there was really no options left. And given the terrible performance he gave personally, I hope he never returns to the ring. I know compared to many others who have carried on wrestling past his age, Taker has put his body through a whole lot more. But he just can't hack it anymore. He's earned his retirement, give him his HOF spot and let's end it there.

[Razzamajazz]

please remember this thread.

thanks

[Crippla]

Spam

[Crippla]

it's real meat

[DAMN iNATOR]

Gonna be Sting v. HHH, if anything, which I would think would be delightful.

[Franchise]

To add to my earlier points:

- Rather than speculate Taker v Sting I would simply be pleased to see the man return to WWE tv walking unaided to the ring and back again.

- If he is going to wrestle at mania it won't be against Sting as the match with Triple H seems set in stone now barring some serious injury to either man.

- If Taker is set for Mania the only viable option imo is to wrestle Lesnar and pick up the win. Firstly as we don't want to see Taker go out on a loss and two WM losses on the bounce, and it would make a great storyline for Taker to end "Brock's streak" as champion and get some measure of revenge and closure from WM 30.

Edit: doesn't necessarily have to be a title match. Taker could mysteriously return at RR etc chokeslam Lesnar and cost him the title either being pinned by Cena or Rollins or say Lesnar had the match won against Cena, Taker slams him, Rollins cashes in.

- If Sting and Undertaker are going to wrestle to do so at Mania is pointless without the streak and wouldn't generate as much excitement. It would however I feel generate a decent enough level of excitement if it took place at Summer Slam or another PPV and restore some credibility/prestige to that parrticular PPV.

- Sting isn't going to lose his first match in WWE and neither will Taker lose a second consecutive WM match so Sting v Taker for WM 31 is a non-starter.

[The MAC]

actually undertaker losing the streak makes Sting vs taker MORE plausible...hear me out..

Sting was the mainstay of WCW as Taker was for WWE, so the battle is not about a streak as they are "equals" . Sting isn't some up and comer looking to beat taker and get a name for himself by ending the streak.

I think they had to get Taker off the streak so that his feud with Sting would be on a different level than a challenge for the streak.

[Franchise]

actually undertaker losing the streak makes Sting vs taker MORE plausible...hear me out..

Sting was the mainstay of WCW as Taker was for WWE, so the battle is not about a streak as they are "equals" . Sting isn't some up and comer looking to beat taker and get a name for himself by ending the streak.

I think they had to get Taker off the streak so that his feud with Sting would be on a different level than a challenge for the streak.

The thing with Taker v Sting was more a clash of characters, their mystique, aura, Taker gave off the same air of fear that Crow Sting did during his run. It would have been like two forces colliding. Taker would have conquered every opponent but then Sting appears.

Yes they're equals but that's what makes a WM match less attractive. They would be better duking it out as equals on another PPV, and that could be hyped up around the match a la HBK v Hogan at Summer Slam some years ago.


The intrigue with Sting would have been "nobody in WWE could end the streak, could one of WCW's greatest legends and the man who in so many ways is similar to the Taker be the man to beat him"?

It would just be like watching a pickup soccer game.


EDIT: I think ultimately we all have to reluctantly accept that Sting v Undertaker won't happen not so much for the streak being lost but the evidence that has been clear over the last couple of years; Undertaker just can't cope with pro wrestling anymore. It was rather a sobering moment watching a man who was once the main draw, the phenom, top of his game etc put in such a terrible performance and ultimately lose the one statistic/merit/attribute that set him apart from his peers such as Hogan, HBK, Austin, Rock, Triple H, Bret Hart, Ultimate Warrior, Savage.....I could list them all. Despite all the big names that had come and gone and appeared at WM, he was THE ONE who had the streak and despite the repetitiveness of watching him come out every year and knowing he would most likely win, we enjoyed watching him add another "victim" to the list. Now that's gone, Undertaker doesn't seem quite as intimidating or larger than life.

Sting v Taker would have been epic 10 years, 7 years maybe even 5 or 3 years ago. But the ship really has sailed (for Mania) and given Taker realistically would have only one more match left if any at all, it makes sense to have him avenge that defeat to Lesnar and then call it a day.

It's sad we may not get to see it but we need to accept it and move on.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I really wish everyone would shut the fuck up about Sting vs. Undertaker forever. That match would fucking suck ass, and I hate you if you think otherwise. Thank you.

[Shisen Kopf]

Sting vs Taker huh? Never thought about that for a WM match.

[XL]

Is this because of the latest Monday Night War show?

[Franchise]

Is this because of the latest Monday Night War show?


Maybe.

But it clearly won't be happening at Wrestle Mania if at all. Sting v Triple H is dead cert.

I think in the first instance we would like to see Taker back on WWE TV.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>In spite of their age I'm fairly certain two legends like Sting and Undertaker could find a way to put together something special in front of 80,000 people or however many people are crammed into WrestleMania in a given year nowadays.

That being said, it was always going to be hard to figure out from a booking perspective. When Taker had the Streak intact, losing it to Sting would have made zero sense but having Sting drop his first WWE match would have been a bit of a wet fart as well. Now that the streak is gone, I'm still not sure how you book it. You have the same issue of not wanting Sting to drop his first match but do you really have Taker lose a second time in a row?

If the match HAD to happen, I suppose you have Taker avenge his streak against someone this year (or sit out entirely) while Sting goes over HHH. And then they face off at WM 32 with the build being that it's each man's retirement match. But that build still seems flimsy and I don't think they'd want Taker sharing his retirement moment with another retiring legend.

At the end of the day I've accepted the match won't happen for a variety of reasons and I'm fine with it. I've always been a big Taker mark and a MASSIVE Sting mark (grew up with WCW) and that's why it was a dream match for me. But it's not like WWE is missing some massive opportunity by not doing it. In fact I'd say most of the younger audience wouldn't even "get" it. People unfamiliar with WCW think Sting was WCW's Undertaker. In terms of being the most prolific "lifer", then yes. But as a character he was completely different.</font>

[Franchise]

That being said, it was always going to be hard to figure out from a booking perspective. When Taker had the Streak intact, losing it to Sting would have made zero sense but having Sting drop his first WWE match would have been a bit of a wet fart as well. Now that the streak is gone, I'm still not sure how you book it. You have the same issue of not wanting Sting to drop his first match but do you really have Taker lose a second time in a row?

If the match HAD to happen, I suppose you have Taker avenge his streak against someone this year (or sit out entirely) while Sting goes over HHH. And then they face off at WM 32 with the build being that it's each man's retirement match. But that build still seems flimsy and I don't think they'd want Taker sharing his retirement moment with another retiring legend.

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Sting v Undertaker at WM would only have had its effect had the streak been in tact from the angle that Taker had beaten everyone in the WWE and that there's nobody left, then Sting would appear and pose a new challenge. Someone on his level in terms of iconic status in their respective organisations, their characters, their mystique, their styles, all heading fr a collision course. It would build and build and build until boiling point. Without the streak, there's nothing to build on for a feud at WM so it's a non-starter.


Not sure why nobody is keen on the idea of seeing the two face off at another PPV after Mania (assuming Taker returns)? There would be no shadow cast over by the streak etc and just a pure old fashioned grudge match.

But again I feel the Undertaker has lost that aura that set him apart from everyone else and watching him wrestle again for me......it's difficult. He needs to avenge the defeat to Lesnar and then frankly.....that should be it.

Allow Sting to wrestle Triple H and get the win. After that wrestle only a couple more matches if ability allows, maybe a tag match on Raw with Cena or someone else.

But until we see Taker walk down that ramp and avenge his loss to Lesnar, Sting won't figure in his plans.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

FREE HEATH SLATER

[Anybody Thrilla]

Sting has no fucking mystique to anyone who watched TNA while he was there. They quite possibly could have been just me on the grand scale, but come the fuck on. He wrestles in a t-shirt, for fuck sake.

[whiteyford]

Yeah the cage match against Foley ruined the little mystique he had even there.

[road doggy dogg]

#NeverForget

[Razzamajazz]

Is this because of the latest Monday Night War show?


:shifty:
:?:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ahem.

Please remember this thread 13 weeks from now.



Thank you.

This thread should have been closed at this post. Should have been then re-opened 13 weeks after when its Triple H and Sting as the match at WrestleMania.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Is this because of the latest Monday Night War show?

Fuck that shit. Didn't even mention Tommy Dreamer in ECW.

[OverTaker]

*DONG* STILL HURTS

[Razzamajazz]

so how did they do? personally I thought the taker/bryatt match was meh, and sting/hhh was... entertaining.


also holy shit scott hall took a bump!

[Wrestlemania]

This won't happen. sorry to say. And if I wasbooking Mania I wouldn't have it included. If his streak was still intact then yes, it would be cringe worthy. But Taker is now and I hate to say this, semi retired. Sting has one last match probably left in him. And I have a feeling he's going to be using it against Cena. PLEASE BIN THIS THREAD....

[Fignuts]

Probably agreed with ABT when I first saw his comments. Not after WM31. Sting fucking brought it. Looked pretty great for his age. Peed a little when Sting did the plancha to the outside.

Taker looked good too. Match being average was on Wyatt's injury I think.

Guess the rumor is that after their matches at mania, Taker and STing both felt great and are open to the idea of a match next year. Can't see it being the shitshow I thought it would be anymore. Pretty excited at the prospect if I'm being honest.

To be fair, I never watched Sting in TNA, so there is that.

[Razzamajazz]

Sting's entrance fucking sucked. His music fucking sucks. With that said, I definitely see him being involved in a match in next year's, or even the year after that's, WrestleMania and hall of fame. I kinda hope it's 2 years from now, since Minneapolis is in the running for WM33.

[Fignuts]

Hopefully if they do the match, the commentators don't talk about WCfuckingW the entire time.

[Razzamajazz]

Well to be fair hopefully it won't be billed as a WCW vs WWE match.


But if they do that again, maybe a 6-8 man tag match? If the rumor of Hogan wanting another match is true.

[Razzamajazz]

I would also like to emphasize that SCOTT HALL TOOK A BUMP, ON THE OUTSIDE, IN 2015

[Fignuts]

Also, before anyone forgets, great call on Sting vs Taker at Wrestlemania 31.

Really panned out like you said.

[Razzamajazz]

I never said that, but ok.


Great thread!

[Razzamajazz]

Right?

[Razzamajazz]

Please someone acknowledge me.


I'm so pathetic and lonely.

[Razzamajazz]

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[Razzamajazz]

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[Anybody Thrilla]

Sting looked "OK", but nothing I need to see at Wrestlemania.

[drave]

Still don't get the allure behind this match.

[Fignuts]

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[Razzamajazz]

no u