do you want a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout first?

[Kris P Lettus]

I want a new Fallout.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fallout. Elder Scrolls online is good enough for now.

[road doggy dogg]

C'mon is this even a question. Fallout 4 is probably the most-wanted game not named Half-Life 3

[Kris P Lettus]

C'mon is this even a question. Fallout 4 is probably the most-wanted game not named Half-Life 3

I feel it would be a bigger debate if ES online hadn't come out. I wish Bethesda would put out a whole game of either.

[The Mask]

Probably elder scrolls, have no interest in online but I really liked skyrim. Fallout would be fine also though.

[Heisenberg]

Some game devs are working on the new Fallout, I can sense it

[alvarado52]

Felderscout

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I have never been that bothered about Fallout; I prefer Oblivion and Skyrim, so definitely a new Elder Scrolls game.

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[road doggy dogg]

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[Fignuts]

Love Fallout, but I like the environments and the lore of the Elder Scrolls games more than the wasteland.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fallout 4 before TES VI: Wherever, please. I just hope that since a new Fallout game is obviously in the works and Bethesda are being über secretive about it that they are not making a shitty-ass Fallout: New Vegas 2 sequel to 2010's Fallout: N.V. About the only amazing things about that game were Caesar, Mr. House and the gambling. Everything else was shit.

On the other hand, EVERYTHING about Fallout 3 was amazing, soundtrack, characters, missions, environments, weapons...EVERYTHING.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fall out NV was great. It had so much with the dynamic of the different factions. Doing one thing would piss off somebody else. The different paths to Hoover Dam were great. Just finished off three paths I didn't choose when I originally played. Beat the game four times now.

[road doggy dogg]

New Vegas was awesome, what are you talking about

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Soundtrack was weak compared to 3 though.

[Kris P Lettus]

I like that damninator thought he had to let us know that Fallout New Vegas 2 would be the sequel to Fallout New Vegas 1.

[DAMN iNATOR]

New Vegas was awesome, what are you talking about

Just didn't care for it as much as FO3. I'm not going to lie and say there weren't a couple fun side quests and NPC characters but the environments and main story did 0 for me, not to mention the weak Dead Money DLC. People shouldn't have had to wait until the Ultimate Edition released on disk for it to be playable, and then when you can get to playing through it you have to suffer through gameplay mechanics which are nothing like the main game.

Didn't stop me from eventually obtaining every last achievement in the game but after a certain point I felt like they were my only motivation to keep going.

[Destor]

Daminator has awful taste tho its not shocking

[DAMN iNATOR]

I just love e-bullies SO much...:roll:

[Destor]

Saying things you dont like isn't bullying...Jesus i hate postmodernism

[road doggy dogg]

Just didn't care for it as much as FO3. I'm not going to lie and say there weren't a couple fun side quests and NPC characters but the environments and main story did 0 for me, not to mention the weak Dead Money DLC. People shouldn't have had to wait until the Ultimate Edition released on disk for it to be playable, and then when you can get to playing through it you have to suffer through gameplay mechanics which are nothing like the main game.

Didn't stop me from eventually obtaining every last achievement in the game but after a certain point I felt like they were my only motivation to keep going.

Oh comparing it to FO3, which is IMO one of the best games ever made, of course it will pale in comparison. Does not mean it is without merit, though.

[Razzamajazz]

my play ratio is 3 elder scrolls:1 fallout

meh

[The Mask]

I agree with fignuts re: the environments and stuff too. Something peaceful about skyrim amidst all the other shit. Going collecting shit for potions and shooting animals as an archer for a while was pretty relaxing. Plus I prefer my games sans guns for whatever reason.

[alvarado52]

No I'm with Damninator here....I played the living shit outta FO3, but lost interest midway through FANV. Couldnt even tell you why...the game was good enough, hit all the right spots, but I guess I never got roped in the way I did with the previous.

[Curtis]

They should do a crossover, a gritty realistic game set in a modern time universe (Fallout is future, Elder Scrolls is medieval/fantasy), so they should make a game in a modern time universe (like GTA games).

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They should do a crossover, a gritty realistic game set in a modern time universe (Fallout is future, Elder Scrolls is medieval/fantasy), so they should make a game in a modern time universe (like GTA games).

Fallout and Elder Scrolls PC versions can be modded. You could probably find a mod to suit your nerdgasm aspirations.

[Curtis]

Fallout and Elder Scrolls PC versions can be modded. You could probably find a mod to suit your nerdgasm aspirations.

im using a crappy cheap laptop that has built in graphics so theres no PC versions of games for me unless u mean the PC version of minesweeper

[Kris P Lettus]

Was there a console version of minesweeper?

[Fignuts]

Probably on the Jaguar.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

im using a crappy cheap laptop that has built in graphics so theres no PC versions of games for me unless u mean the PC version of minesweeper

Built in graphics might work for them. Fallout 3 is from 2008.

[Tom Guycott]

I would like to see Fallout, personally. I love me some Skyrim, but I have no long-term investment in the lore. I don't know hardly a thing about Tamriel that either Skyrim or a really Elder Scroll-centric friend didn't tell me. Fallout, on the other hand, makes sense to me as a whole, as I've been on that shit since I played the "enclosed Junktown" demo from one of those game mag discs.

I kind of had the opposite feeling about Fallout 3 and New Vegas, in that New Vegas, lore wise, made more geographic sense than DC. I get Bethesda wanted to do their own thing, but since the first two games were primarily made of what used to be California, it felt like more cohesive world building. It made less sense to me, for example, that Harold (and Bob) would wander all the way to the east coast or Dogmeat (or implied decendant thereof), for that matter. I like they made those nods, but it semed a bit... disjointed.

Meanwhile, the callbacks made more sense in New Vegas. I love the pottymouth, shotgunning, lush Cass anyway, but lost my shit when she explained who her dad was (a follower in FO2, bonus for her being soured on chems because of his heart condition- anything stronger than a stimpak would kill him), or that the old broad in the junkyard near Novac is basically why there was a crashed vertibird near Klamath (again, FO2), or any mention of The Hub, President Tandi, or anything else that has already been established in the world.

And even though half the soundtrack is carryover from 3, I actually dig the reference in the Ink Spot songs "Maybe" and "I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire"... the first was used as the intro for FO1, the second is the song Interplay *wanted* to use there, but were denied. Nice touch by Bethesda in general.

[dronepool]

Fallout

[Curtis]

Fallout



I didn't quite catch that, so u definetely want a new Elder Scrolls?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Oh comparing it to FO3, which is IMO one of the best games ever made, of course it will pale in comparison. Does not mean it is without merit, though.

No, obviously NV wasn't without merit. Not saying that in any way shape or form. I AM, however saying that the story, the combat with little or no tweaks to V.A.T.S., no improvement of the "Karma" system, and some annoying and at times game-breaking bugs and glitches. Obsidian put forth a great effort, it just seems very "MEH :|" compared to 3.

[Fignuts]

Enjoyed New Vegas' story more, thanks in large part to all the ties to Fallout 1 and 2.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No, obviously NV wasn't without merit. Not saying that in any way shape or form. I AM, however saying that the story, the combat with little or no tweaks to V.A.T.S., no improvement of the "Karma" system, and some annoying and at times game-breaking bugs and glitches. Obsidian put forth a great effort, it just seems very "MEH :|" compared to 3.

Knowing Obsidian's penchant for putting out half-assed games (KOTOR2 sent out unfinished) I was surprised they didn't fuck this game up.

[Tom Guycott]

Being fair, both modern Fallouts and Skyrim were "half-assed games". The awesomeness of the scope and ambition and execution of all the things they did right allows us to look past actual bug and glitch issues that should have been rectified ages ago.

When you have NPCs walking into the sky, then falling out of the sky to their death, or enemies (or sometimes allies even) that clip into the ground and out of the world, or entirely being missing from the world (troublesome if they're important to some quest), flickering scenery... not background, distance draw stuff, but actual standing in front of a thing and it shifts through planes of existance... the "draw distance" glitch where lines kind of just appear from the sky to your current foreground and stay screwing with vision in a particular area (or period) unless you load an old save, audio drops, random unprovoked hostility from neutrals, "stealing" things from bad guys or otherwise unoccupied places... etc., game after game, seemingly unaddressed.