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Tanawesome
03-03-2015, 01:49 PM
Should WWE break kayfabe when they put people in the HOF so people know every about them? OR Should they just induct the character?
Tanawesome
03-07-2015, 09:10 AM
I've always thought that the Performer should be honored for their entire career. That being said, I also think they should be able to pick which Character they want to be enshrined as. Very similar to Major League Baseball.
JimmyMess
03-07-2015, 10:06 AM
Little bit of both. I picked performer. Like I found it strange in Scott Hall's situation that they only referred to him as Razor Ramon... I thought it should be Scott "Razor Ramon" Hall on the induction, but acknowledge both aspects of the career.
Like when Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson goes in, same thing. I'd even say they should introduce the Deadman as Mark "The Undertaker" Calloway. The only exception would be guys who's character transcended their name, IE Hulk Hogan or Sting.
Tanawesome
03-07-2015, 10:11 AM
Absolutely. They did that for Alundra Blaze. They acknowledged her time as Medusa, but ultimately inducted her as her WWE persona.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-07-2015, 10:49 AM
Absolutely. They did that for Alundra Blaze. They acknowledged her time as Medusa, but ultimately inducted her as her WWE persona.
They had to. Her time as Alundra Blayze alone wasn't enough to be in the Hall of Fame.
She's basically only in the Hall of Fame because she dropped the championship in the trash on Nitro. If she didn't do that nobody would have cared about her at all.
Tanawesome
03-07-2015, 11:08 AM
That's fair, only being in WWE for 2 years doesn't really make a HOF career.
But, to an extent, neither does Scott Hall's 4 year tenure with WWE as Razor Ramon. He should have been inducted as Scott Hall, while acknowledging his time as Razor Ramon
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-07-2015, 11:19 AM
He was a 4 time IC Champion, pioneered the Ladder Match with Shawn Michaels, had a WWE Championship match at a PPV with Bret Hart and teamed with Ric Flair on a PPV in his first PPV match.
I'd say that's more than Koko B. Ware ever did in the WWE.
Shisen Kopf
03-07-2015, 12:30 PM
So what you're saying is that Tugboat will be inducted but not Shockmaster?
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 12:37 PM
Little bit of both. I picked performer. Like I found it strange in Scott Hall's situation that they only referred to him as Razor Ramon... I thought it should be Scott "Razor Ramon" Hall on the induction, but acknowledge both aspects of the career.
Like when Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson goes in, same thing. I'd even say they should introduce the Deadman as Mark "The Undertaker" Calloway. The only exception would be guys who's character transcended their name, IE Hulk Hogan or Sting.
I find this odd too as a few weeks back on commentary, he was referred to as "hall of famer, Scott Hal". So it seems WWE do kind of acknowledge the career but use a character or gimmick to induct them.
Perhaps because from a WWE perspective, 'Scott Hall' (and Madusa) were big outside WWE whilst they were better known by another persona in WWE and WWE/McMahon want their creative input to have top recognition in those circumstances.
Much how they created a new theme for Sting rather than use the Crow theme of old which was a million times better.
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 12:45 PM
They had to. Her time as Alundra Blayze alone wasn't enough to be in the Hall of Fame.
She's basically only in the Hall of Fame because she dropped the championship in the trash on Nitro. If she didn't do that nobody would have cared about her at all.
It was appropriate timing given the airing of "The Monday Night War" on the network and as you said the unique situation of her denigrating a WWE belt on a rival show.
Other than that there were no other appropriate female candidates as it appears there has to be at least one female inductee.
Ivory is worthy in my opinion but was her career that outstanding? Victoria is another but again question marks as to whether or not she was truly outstanding. Gail Kim's been more of a "success" in TNA. Molly Holly......maybe.
Beth Phoenix (boing boing) one day for sure but I don't think she has "retired" as such yet.
Miss Elizabeth might be overlooked because of her past and of course there's more chance of Hitler rising from the dead than Chyna ever being inducted. Triple H suggests it's because of her post-wrestling infamy but ultimately I can't see her ever being inducted whilst the McMahons (i.e. Stpehanie) still own the organization.
Any other stand out female wrestlers?
Oh Stacy Keibler!
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-07-2015, 12:48 PM
Jacqueline too. She was the first champion when they brought the championship back and also was the Crusierweight Champion. Sable too because of her importance to the Divas and being Brock's wife.
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 12:55 PM
Jacqueline too. She was the first champion when they brought the championship back and also was the Crusierweight Champion. Sable too because of her importance to the Divas and being Brock's wife.
Well if they were to practice what they preach, they shouldn't in theory induct Sable into the HoF because of her "past" i.e. Playboy.
But as I pointed out previously, Chyna's beef with WWE and vice-versa goes beyond pornography.
Jackie is another I overlooked
Victoria might be a likely choice as she is no longer affiliated with TNA, still maintains cordial relations with WWE (appearing backstage at many live events) and they even mentioned her in a recent article so who knows.
Mickie James is worthy but has "a past" too.
But then again so does Lana....who doesn't?
I would say next female inductee will be Stacy Keibler or Victoria.
Simple Fan
03-07-2015, 12:56 PM
Torrie Wilson ? Crazy she never won a title but she did win a Golden Thong Award
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 01:05 PM
Torrie Wilson ? Crazy she never won a title but she did win a Golden Thong Award
Exactly too much sexual stuff and not enough in-ring work.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-07-2015, 01:08 PM
Well if they were to practice what they preach, they shouldn't in theory induct Sable into the HoF because of her "past" i.e. Playboy.
But as I pointed out previously, Chyna's beef with WWE and vice-versa goes beyond pornography.
Jackie is another I overlooked
Victoria might be a likely choice as she is no longer affiliated with TNA, still maintains cordial relations with WWE (appearing backstage at many live events) and they even mentioned her in a recent article so who knows.
Mickie James is worthy but has "a past" too.
But then again so does Lana....who doesn't?
I would say next female inductee will be Stacy Keibler or Victoria.
WWE approved Playboy spread is different than hardcore porn.
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 01:10 PM
WWE approved Playboy spread is different than hardcore porn.
Playboy is still porn though so it's double standards for them to say that. But obviously they're not going to publicly express their feelings about Chyna.
It would be a like a woman inviting her husband's mistress to have sex with him in front of her.
Enjoyable for me but not the woman hehe.
Simple Fan
03-07-2015, 01:16 PM
Butt obviously they're not going to publicly express their feelings about Chyna.
Butt Lol.
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 01:18 PM
Butt Lol.
It wasn't a mistake ;)
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 01:19 PM
tits!
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 01:32 PM
So what you're saying is that Tugboat will be inducted but not Shockmaster?
Want Tamina to tug on my penis....I mean boat.
Simple Fan
03-07-2015, 01:50 PM
Exactly too much sexual stuff and not enough in-ring work.
Shocking coming from Jazzy Foot.
The Condor
03-07-2015, 08:05 PM
The devolution of this thread is a thing to behold.
Jazzy Foot
03-07-2015, 08:06 PM
Shocking coming from Jazzy Foot.
You weren't expecting that were you lol?
Tanawesome
03-07-2015, 09:03 PM
The devolution of this thread is a thing to behold.
Better sooner than later...
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