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Corkscrewed
03-11-2015, 01:14 AM
Should occur after WrestleMania and be to an NXT call-up like Adrian Neville or Sami Zayn. Neville makes some sense because Rusev's never really faced such an athletic high flyer who isn't your puny Cruiserweight level guy, so it could be believable and then kickstart a nice feud that puts Neville over as well (as long as he's not Mighty Mouse).
Rusev losing to Cena does nothing for either person. Which is, of course, why that will happen at WrestleMania.
Agree or disagree?
Dark One
03-11-2015, 01:29 AM
Rusev losing to Cena does nothing for either person. Which is, of course, why that will happen at WrestleMania.
I would be pretty shocked if that's not what happened.
But, at the same time, I don't know that I can really figure out anyone else who's a legitimate choice to do it. It's a little bit of the Brock Lesnar conundrum where there's no one who's anywhere close to the world-beater level that would be required for it to make sense--other than Cena, because he's been booked as relatively unbeatable for over a decade now.
Sure, they could give it to an NXT call up, like Neville, but then what? I have trouble legitimately hoping that anyone they call up that they give it to would still be doing anything in six months.
It should probably go to someone who's semi-established already and moving upwards, but who's that going to be? I could see them using it to get Ziggler over again, but that's probably never going to happen.
After being unbeaten for this long, it's kind of passed the threshold of being thrown away as a short term boost to a guy and moved into "big deal" territory, and there aren't many people who are in a position to a) deserve it b) use it and/or c) be believable in it.
It's kind of a shame, because in the past six months, they've had a whole clump of guys who were all hugely over and could have taken advantage, but they've pretty much murdered all the momentum those guys, like Ziggler and Ambrose, had.
Which means if he doesn't lose to Cena at Wrestlemania, he'll probably lose to Sin Cara on a random Raw in a few months.
erickman
03-11-2015, 06:01 AM
yeah it should have been swagger but wwe screwed that angle up, swagger could not even win for zev.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-11-2015, 07:15 AM
Roman Reigns was Rusev's first lost technically. By DQ and when he eliminated him in some Battle Royal. (Not the Royal Rumble)
Shisen Kopf
03-11-2015, 07:21 AM
They should have whoever beats him immediately go on a bus tour of the USA this summer and have a "made in the USA" gimmick too. It's the smrt thing to do.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-11-2015, 07:39 AM
I'll be your herrrrrrro heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrroooooo!
The scenario with Neville is good, but as you say, Cena will more than likely beat Rusev at Mania.
This is where I'm thinking of the next step; if someone beats Cena clean (or clean-ish, not a distraction finish) for the belt it will mean just as much, maybe more, to best Cena for the US Title.
Ruien
03-11-2015, 09:49 AM
No, there should be no NXT guy coming in and beating Rusev. It needs to be someone on the rise and has the ability to make people believe he can actually beat Rusev. Maybe Ambrose in a couple months.
poopfromweiner dude
03-11-2015, 10:15 AM
Rusev has such a stupid face how does he keep winning
I like the monster with the long undefeated streak...but I donut like rusev
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-11-2015, 10:15 AM
HELLUVA KICK! 123!
SAMI ZAYN HAS DEFEATED RUSEV
OLE! OLE! OLE OLE!! OLE!
OLEEEEEEEEEE!
Clerk
03-11-2015, 10:27 AM
Rusev is BORING BORING BORING BORING.
Jazzy Foot
03-11-2015, 11:29 AM
Rusev shouldn't lose until he's won the WWE title at WM 32 then have him lose at WM 33 to Daniel Bryan.
Clerk
03-11-2015, 11:35 AM
Rusev shouldn't lose until he's won the WWE title at WM 32 then have him lose at WM 33 to Daniel Bryan.
Have Brock lesnar win at WM and Paige comes out they fuck and Paige cashes in Seth Rollins MITB and Paige is the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion
No, there should be no NXT guy coming in and beating Rusev. It needs to be someone on the rise and has the ability to make people believe he can actually beat Rusev. Maybe Ambrose in a couple months.
It genuinely doesn't matter, does it? Whether it's an NXT debutant, or a "star in the rise" that beats Rusev (or Cena), they won't maintain the character beyond a few weeks, and they'll be back to losing in the midcard shuffle before we know it.
Anybody Thrilla
03-11-2015, 11:58 AM
If Kurt Angle isn't the one to beat Rusev, we're all wasting our time.
Simple Fan
03-11-2015, 12:28 PM
Rusev shouldn't lose until he's won the WWE title at WM 32 then have him lose at WM 33 to Daniel Bryan.
You had me until you got to Daniel Bryan. I would be down with a Rusev WWE title reign. Why not a fued with either Brock or Roman coming out of Mania after he beats Cena.
Ruien
03-11-2015, 12:34 PM
It genuinely doesn't matter, does it? Whether it's an NXT debutant, or a "star in the rise" that beats Rusev (or Cena), they won't maintain the character beyond a few weeks, and they'll be back to losing in the midcard shuffle before we know it.
By having some scrub no one has heard of beating Rusev clean will hurt him. Having him lose to someone like Ambrose that (in theory) has been on the rise for 2 months before their match would make sense. Lets not turn Rusev into a jobber.
Ruien
03-11-2015, 12:35 PM
Hell, as much as I want Rusev to beat Cena at Mania (I think it could happen too) I want to see him lose all the same. Having his current streak may do more harm than good if it sticks around for to long. It will turn into his gimmick and won't have anything after it goes away.
Jazzy Foot
03-11-2015, 01:49 PM
Have Brock lesnar win at WM and Paige comes out they fuck and Paige cashes in Seth Rollins MITB and Paige is the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion
Can she do that? If so you don't need to ask me twice if it's a good idea.
Topless Paige as WWE WHC.
She can pose topless like Hogan did.http://www.geocities.ws/jim_ballard76/champions/hogan93.jpg
i c wut u r aiming for, some kind of Razor Ramon losing to 1-2-3 Kid shocker
Clerk
03-13-2015, 09:14 AM
Can she do that? If so you don't need to ask me twice if it's a good idea.
Topless Paige as WWE WHC.
She can pose topless like Hogan did.http://www.geocities.ws/jim_ballard76/champions/hogan93.jpg
In the words on Vince Mcmahon: "Expect the unexpected"
DAMN iNATOR
03-13-2015, 12:32 PM
Yeah, Cena definitely shouldn't be his first clean loss, especially not with the U.S. Championship on the line at Mania. This isn't 2004, and Cena isn't the Doctor of Thuganomics.
I say pick up after Mania where they left off between Rusev and Swagger. Even if Swagger doesn't end up with the title it could still be a pretty entertaining feud.
DAMN iNATOR
03-13-2015, 01:12 PM
If Kurt Angle isn't the one to beat Rusev, we're all wasting our time.
How I wish that were possible. However, considering what he's up to lately in #LOLTNA (no spoilers), I don't think he'll be back to WWE anytime soon.
Bad News Gertner
03-13-2015, 05:29 PM
Neville sucks, so no.
Heath Slater baby!
Mr. Nerfect
03-15-2015, 08:15 PM
Jack Swagger was the man to do it. Cena will probably do it at WrestleMania. It won't be the end of the world. If it were someone on the current roster, I'd pick Ziggler. If I had to call up someone from NXT to do it, I'd go with Chad Gable. Have him answer an open challenge from Rusev, who basically laughs in Gable's face, but is unaware of Gable's amateur background and gets pinned. We only find out about Gable's history on SmackDown when he introduces himself properly.
Corkscrewed
03-17-2015, 04:04 PM
Has Rusev ever fought Ambrose? If Ambrose went over Rusev to get Dean over, would that work?
drave
03-18-2015, 11:06 AM
Has Rusev ever fought Ambrose? If Ambrose went over Rusev to get Dean over, would that work?
Not sure. Ambrose doesn't need a win over Rusev to be over though, he is "over" on character alone and has a pretty shitty W/L record.
Simple Fan
03-18-2015, 12:03 PM
Swagger should do it on Raw the night after Mania. If Swagger won the battle royal then beat Rusev it would make him red hot with the We the People gimmick. Its about time Zeb returned to.
Shadrick
03-18-2015, 03:24 PM
Rusev will lose to Cena, then get mad at Lana for giving him the match, fires her, Lana takes time off, etc.
I think Lana's time off May have already started.
Mr. Nerfect
03-19-2015, 09:07 AM
Swagger should do it on Raw the night after Mania. If Swagger won the battle royal then beat Rusev it would make him red hot with the We the People gimmick. Its about time Zeb returned to.
I'd actually like that. :y:
Moonax
03-22-2015, 01:59 PM
But we know what will happen.
Cena will win, because its Cena and LOLCENAWINZ.
The next time you see Rusev will be in some comedy tag team on Main Event and you'll go, 'oh yeah, that guy, he could have been a monster heel, till Cena killed him stone dead'.
Simple Fan
03-22-2015, 03:12 PM
Ryder and Rusev The Woo Woo Crush.
Moonax
03-22-2015, 03:29 PM
Ryder and Rusev The Woo Woo Crush.
Don't give Vince ideas.
I'm sure it'll involve dancing as well.
Probably a dance off with Fandango.
Simple Fan
03-22-2015, 03:32 PM
No it would be a fuwd with Fandago and Fandango steals Lana
Jazzy Foot
03-22-2015, 07:29 PM
Am I the only person who thinks having Rusev lose to Cena would be a huge mistake?
Damian Rey
03-22-2015, 08:25 PM
Because?
Jazzy Foot
03-22-2015, 08:54 PM
Because?
Building him up as this undefeated monster better than having him drop the title to Cena who really doesn't need the belt, a push or anything really.
Mr. Nerfect
03-22-2015, 09:38 PM
I think Cena beating Rusev is actually a good move. It's time to see what Rusev can do without the streak on his side.
Mr. Nerfect
03-22-2015, 09:39 PM
If Rusev does retain, however, I would like Cena to sell the loss by disappearing for a little while.
Jazzy Foot
03-22-2015, 10:02 PM
If Rusev does retain, however, I would like Cena to sell the loss by disappearing for a little while.
This. I think it would do wonders for both him and WWE. It's not like he will be forgotten etc and with him taking a backseat it allows WWE to push younger talents and perhaps actually settle on someone they feel is a true main eventer.
Jazzy Foot
03-22-2015, 10:03 PM
I think Cena beating Rusev is actually a good move. It's time to see what Rusev can do without the streak on his side.
I like the idea of Rusev being dominant and waving the Russian flag in everyone's faces given its relevance right now i.e. Russia/Putin constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. Have it continue until we eventually get bored.
Mr. Nerfect
03-22-2015, 10:18 PM
I would have had Cena put his career on the line against Rusev. I know that stipulation often doesn't carry much weight, because most of the time it telegraphs who is winning -- but I think it would have been organic and fit this story. Cena doesn't win the US Title, Rusev has no reason to fight him again, Cena puts something big on the line for another shot. Sure, Cena would obviously be winning, but that's the sort of story they are trying to tell with these guys.
OR Rusev could actually beat Cena, then Erick Rowan, Ryback and Dolph Ziggler can fight Rusev in order to pay back Cena by winning his job back. A Triple Threat Match to decide who faces Rusev actually has some appeal. Or Rusev could go through them one at a time. Ziggler can be given the shot of challenging for the US Title or fighting for Cena's job. He (almost reluctantly) has to go with Cena, and he gets Cena back in the WWE. Or something.
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