Suicide Squad (2016)

[Ruien]

I didn't even notice Batman in the trailer.

[drave]

Margot Robbie in a bra? Color me sold.

But in all seriousness, them showing MULTIPLE Batman snips makes me feel like they think he's a big draw. Which he is. But I'd rather they try and make us forget he's in it and surprise us later.


You do know that she has been in much less on screen yea? Just sayin'

Or is the allure that it is Harley Quinn in a bra?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I've seen Wolf on Wall Street. So yes. I know there's more. I still find her wildly attractive. So maybe the Harley Quinn thing you mentioned is true.

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah....the two put together is quite alluring.

[Lock Jaw]

I have not seen Wolf of Wall Street.............. might have to now. :shifty:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Just Google the good parts, pal.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Director David Ayer coming out and saying rumors of the reshoots being to add humor are silly. Stated was to add/enhance the action/set pieces.

[Rammsteinmad]

With every week there seems to be something new coming out basically promoting Jared Leto as the Joker. How he supposedly sent used condoms to cast members as presents, or how the "world stopped and stood in awe" at his performance... with all this news going around now of reshoots being done to "make the film less gritty" or whatever, and apparently now Suicide Squad 2 will be R-Rated, surprise surprise, jeez I wish this film would hurry up and come out so Leto's Joker can basically fail to live up to the hype. Can't help but feel that it's nothing but Heath Ledger Joker #2.

Stay positive :y:

[alvarado52]

Without a doubt "they" seem to be going out of their way to promote Leto's Joker.

I remember we didnt see or hear much of anything about Ledger's Joker, which made it all the more amazing when we finally DID and he knocked it out of the park.

[Simple Fan]

I think Leto will do great. I dig the look and haven't really seen anything other than the trailers. Don't think he'll be Ledger like either. May have a few nuisances from him because he did such a great job but with this characters look I feel he'll be more psychotic and wild.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yeah nothing about him screams Ledger. I think Leto is more than talented enough to do a great job. But, much like Affleck, I'm worried that it'll be a strong performance of muddled character direction and writing.

At least we know the director is capable of greatness, such as Training Day and Fury.

[Frank Drebin]

Always liked this quote. Kinda sums up my initial doubts about this movie.

Oh good. The Joker's car has the licence plate "HAHAHA"

I wasn't sure people were going to get that he likes to laugh. Good call DC.

[RP]

this movie might be incredible. I think The Dark Knight is the best comic book movie of all time. This one has a chance.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Watched the clip of Joker and Harley in the lambo with Batman pursuing. And it felt bad. Like, Joker and Harley seemed so hammy. It is just a clip out of context. But still.

I did like the clip introducing Katana.

[RP]

Watched the clip of Joker and Harley in the lambo with Batman pursuing. And it felt bad. Like, Joker and Harley seemed so hammy. It is just a clip out of context. But still.

I did like the clip introducing Katana.

Only thing i didnt like about that clip was Harley's hair. But i probably could use some more context to it.

[ClockShot]

Review embargo is over and critics aren't being too kind right now.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not surprised at this point. It's almost DC's thing now. Make much anticipated, severely hyped films only to produce a mediocre at best effort. Oh Well. Maybe Wonder Woman will be good.

[Destor]

I will see it this weekend. By my own rules I really shouldn't but I want to hope that snyder was thw issue with BvS and that its better than it looks...i very well might abandon ship on DC theater viewings if this is poor. May go to dvd until they earn some trust.

[ClockShot]

Not surprised at this point. It's almost DC's thing now. Make much anticipated, severely hyped films only to produce a mediocre at best effort. Oh Well. Maybe Wonder Woman will be good.

Ask Chris Nolan to pick a hero out of a hat and make another trilogy. Convince him with a few truckloads of money and a sizeable stake in DC.

Worked for Batman.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They can't keep relying on the same guy. Feels like we're not really going to get anything good until after Wonder Woman, as that film was the last I'm production before the massive shift in roles happened following BvS.

[RP]

Well, when you cast Jai Courtney in your movie, it automatically brings thing down a few notches.

[Ruien]

Still can't wait to see this movie. Screw critics.

[Malfeitor]

Jeremy Jahns said its worth buying on Blu-Ray.

Take that for what it's worth.

[Ruien]

Cheaper to see a movie at11:30am ($5.49) than to buy a 25 dollar dvd.

[Destor]

Cheaper to see a movie at11:30am ($5.49) than to buy a 25 dollar dvd.netlfix...hbo...redbox...free tv...bargin bins...

[Kalyx triaD]

Jeremy Jahns said its worth buying on Blu-Ray.

Take that for what it's worth.

Who?

[Ruien]

Jeremy Jahns said its worth buying on Blu-Ray.

Take that for what it's worth.

Cheaper to see a movie at11:30am ($5.49) than to buy a 25 dollar dvd.

netlfix...hbo...redbox...free tv...bargin bins...

[Sixx]

torrent, as i got neither of those

well, except for blu-rays but fuck it, i still download shit if i don't watch them in the cinema

[Mercenary]

If I avoided every movie critic says is bad. I would miss a whole bunch of movies I liked

[Emperor Smeat]

According to a report from Hollywood Reporter, this film ended up being plagued with issues from the start.

Warner Bros only gave them about 6 weeks to write a script. The director only got picked because other bigger name directors either refused or were already busy on other projects. Only reason reshoots happened was due to the boss of Warner Bros being pissed at Batman vs Superman "damaging" their DC film brand.

In regards to comedy in the film, Warner Bros wanted more added in while the director and actors didn't.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/suicide-squad-reportedly-had-very-troubled-product/1100-6442334/

[RP]

It's just stunning that this happened. It just goes to show that you cant trust any trailers. Trailers are like old beat up bitches wearing make-up after you've had 20 beers. They look amazing, act amazing and when you go to fuck them you're shocked how bad of a choice you made.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not even. It's not that stunning that D.C. keeps releasing clunkers. They rushed to get these movies and their universe off the ground with no plan in place, and now they're eating shit for it.

[Frank Drebin]

I'm just glad that after this movie get released and gets "meh" box office results, the seemingly endless articles about how "Leto so cray cray being Joker" and random casting notes and tidbits about the plot will end.

Seems like I've been hearing about this for three years. It's going to feel like the day after an election. Instead of "where are all the Trump and Clinton ads? Oh yeah....thank God that's over." It'll be "why haven't I heard anything about Suicide Squad in a week? Oh yeah....thank god that's over."

[RP]

Im sure it will still pull 150 mil opening weekend

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's gonna have a massive opening weekend. But as we saw with BvS after the reviews and word of mouth, it could see a huge dip the following week.

[RP]

Yahhh i dont know. We'll see. I've seen movies with bad reviews turn out to be pretty decent. The most recent being X-Men Apolcalpse

[Fignuts]

They got a company that only makes trailers, to make the final cut of tne film.

[RP]

I'm also not naive enough to believe that a movie this hyped doesnt lend itself to even the best reviewers making up bullshit to be contreversial or different.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Or maybe it just really sucks.

X-Men wasn't a bad movie. It was decent. And it got decent reviews. Reading those reviews and the one for the film of topic is a completely different experience.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not to say that maybe a very small contingentof reviewers hate movies like this. Here in San Diego, we have a free mag called The Reader. The guy who reviews movies hates everything. He didn't like the Dark Knight, for fuck's sake. So yeah, there are the snobs who will hate on anything like this. Even the almighty Marvel movies. However, if the film is good, those in that small contingent will be drowned out.

When you have such a large sample of people watching the same movie and having the same reaction, it probably means something.

[Ruien]

Same thing happened to the Warcraft movie but it turned out to be really good.

[Kalyx triaD]

Reminder that all movies are hyped to hell. I'm not sure why people take media as some kind of indicator of film quality.

I watch trailers as a kind of primer to the movie. I don't actually judge either direction.

[Malfeitor]

The movie was rad.

I don't understand why it got so much hate.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'm seeing it Sunday. I'll give my thoughts them. Bummed out to read Leto only has about 10 minutes screen time.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I've just seen it and I thought it was rather naff. It was poorly edited, and everything felt really flat.

[RP]

I saw it. Honestly, i think the actors got betrayed by editing. I'm not sure if it was cut up to much or what, but, this was a shitting movie edit if i've ever seen one. I cant blame any of the stars. Still though, It wasnt completely horrible.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Rumors flooded the internets after reviews started releasing that there were plenty of cuts, only 6 months allotted to write the script, rewrites and studio involvement. I.e. a bunch of excuses as to why the movie probably isn't good.

[RP]

This feels like a movie the studio should not have gotten themselves involved with.

[Rammsteinmad]

Rumors flooded the internets after reviews started releasing that there were plenty of cuts, only 6 months allotted to write the script, rewrites and studio involvement. I.e. a bunch of excuses as to why the movie probably isn't good.

Seems to be a trend with DC's films lately.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's damage control. They pulled the same shit with BvS.

[Simple Fan]

Just got back and I thought it was damn good. Want to see more of Leto as Joker. Killer Croc looked better than I thought he would. Looking forward to Wonder Woman.

[Ruien]

Everyone I know in real life so far has enjoyed the movie. Really excited to see this still. May actually go tonight and pay the crazy price to see it.

[Disturbed316]

Saw it yesterday and enjoyed it. The main story/plot was pretty weak but the interaction between the characters was great with some really funny moments. Not sure how I feel about Letto's Joker, he didn't have enough screen time to really make my mind up.

[Vastardikai]

Overall, it was a fun ride of a movie.

Deadshot felt like every Will Smith character.If one of the Joker scenes had Jim Carey in Leto's place, no one would have noticed. They showed the Mad Love cover, but left out the actual Mad Love. Flagg was just there.

Complaints over with, Enchantress was a solid villain. She was a legit threat. Viola Davis was perfectly cast as Amanda Waller. I felt she should have put up more of a fight against the underlings, though. Margot was good as Harley. I bought her as at least a little off, but that made her dangerous. Needed the mallet instead of a bat, though. Croc and Boomerang ruled. Diablo was probably the show stealer. I really hated to see him go.

[RP]

Overall, it was a fun ride of a movie.

Deadshot felt like every Will Smith character.If one of the Joker scenes had Jim Carey in Leto's place, no one would have noticed. They showed the Mad Love cover, but left out the actual Mad Love. Flagg was just there.

Complaints over with, Enchantress was a solid villain. She was a legit threat. Viola Davis was perfectly cast as Amanda Waller. I felt she should have put up more of a fight against the underlings, though. Margot was good as Harley. I bought her as at least a little off, but that made her dangerous. Needed the mallet instead of a bat, though. Croc and Boomerang ruled. Diablo was probably the show stealer. I really hated to see him go.

I thought the same thing about Flagg. The guy who plays him is a great actor too. Bummed me out.

[Destor]

Went with a group. Guys gals and only 2 comic fans in the group. All hated it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

$135,105,000.

[Destor]

$135,105,000.
Expect a record breaking drop off next weekend

[Simple Fan]

It should drop off next weekend because it did so well opening weekend. Actually broke records for August releases which includes Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Lock Jaw]

Not surprising it would beat Guardians of the Galaxy opening, since some of the characters/cameos in Suicide Squad are way more well known than any of the Guardians were at the time.

[Destor]

It should drop off next weekend because it did so well opening weekend. Thats not how things work.
Actually broke records for August releases which includes Guardians of the Galaxy.
Guardians was successful due to longevitiy at the theater due to word of mouth sales.

Suicide Squad will rapidly fall due to word of mouth, which is a strong parallel between it and guardians.

[Simple Fan]

I don't know it won't have a lot of competition and it's a pretty fun movie. I think it will do pretty well.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

BvS had zero competition and it fell off dramatically. Not having anything to go up against doesn't mean much.

[Sixx]

of course it will make money, but not the kind they'd want

as someone mentioned, guardians was so succesful mainly because of word of mouth, this thing here - no way

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Any movie is successful because of sustained ticket sales. The Dark Knight was pulling in money left and right, every weekend. It didn't blow its load opening weekend only up fall off.

BvS did that and was considered a disappointment to the point that the entire hierarchy overseeing the films were changed. SS is probably gonna go thru the same drop off. Because it's probably just not a good movie.

[Simple Fan]

It was a good movie though, best comic book movie this year in my opinion. To me DC's movies feel more like a comic book. I like both Marvel and DC and I don't understand the hate that the DC films get. If they make a film completely different from Marvels formula they get shit on, if they have one thing that is similar to Marvel people shit on them for coping Marvel. I read some Rotten Tomatoes reviews and most of them had go into the movie trying to kill it, it's just not that bad of a movie.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I want to like this film. I was planning on seeing it eventually.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Stop being juvenile. They're not getting shit in because they're different from marvel or trying to copy them. They're getting shit on because they're not good movies. Yes, you may like them. But they're not good.

Just got back from this. Wasn't very good at all. Villain stunk. The plot was paper thin, and while there were cool cameos and the actors did ok, the overall story and characters were flat. The motives were flat. The Joker was useless. I could go on. And probably will.

But for now, I will say that it's deserving of its criticism. It's not a good movie. About as bad, possibly worse than BvS.

[Simple Fan]

Thought the character were well introduced and developed through out the story. Especially Diablo, they did a great job with him. Joker was great and had me hoping he survived and was glad to see him bust out Harley. Enchantress was a good villain and posed a legit threat. I'm not sure what people are expecting but the movie is fun all the way through an I enjoyed it. I'd actually put it above the theatrical release of Dawn of Justice but not above the Director's cut.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Stop being juvenile. They're not getting shit in because they're different from marvel or trying to copy them. They're getting shit on because they're not good movies. Yes, you may like them. But they're not good.

Just got back from this. Wasn't very good at all. Villain stunk. The plot was paper thin, and while there were cool cameos and the actors did ok, the overall story and characters were flat. The motives were flat. The Joker was useless. I could go on. And probably will.

But for now, I will say that it's deserving of its criticism. It's not a good movie. About as bad, possibly worse than BvS.

Better or worse than Ghostbusters 2016?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I had a better time with Ghostbusters. I wasn't bored. Simple fan says they were great with characters. They weren't. Deadshot and Harley get lots of love. But that's it. Diablo gets one scene where he explains everything at the very end. The other characters don't get shit. They're just there.

[Simple Fan]

Each member gets their own introduction and has something to contribute to the team throughout the movie. Diablo had great development all the way through that culminates with his final scene.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I had a better time with Ghostbusters. I wasn't bored. Simple fan says they were great with characters. They weren't. Deadshot and Harley get lots of love. But that's it. Diablo gets one scene where he explains everything at the very end. The other characters don't get shit. They're just there.

Did you really like Ghostbusters? You seemed personally invested in it being a good movie.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I wasn't personally invested. You mistook being objective about what was being said as me being invested. I posted z review of it in the rate the last movie thread. It was ok. Nothing special. But I had more fun watching that movie than Suicide Squad. I was actually bored in SS. For a lot of it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

You were not being objective. You were being very emotional.

That said, I have seen neither film yet. I wish they were both good films as I still plan to watch them eventually.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Perhaps you took it as emotionally. It's not what I was attempting.

I'd say give them a look. If you had to choose I'd say Ghostbusters is more deserving of your money. It's much less of a cluster fuck and, imo, more enjoyable.

[Crimson]

Movie was better than what I anticipated but nothing special. Wish Will Smith wasn't cast, I enjoyed Harley Quinn, Joker was ok Leto did fine, I just don't like the tattoos or his teeth.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Feel like he had such little time in no way could I judge his performance. He was interesting but never got past that due to having a very minor role.

[Simple Fan]

I'll agree could have had more Joker. Leto said they filmed enough to do a Joker movie and they cut a lot out. Could have more in the DVD release like Dawn of Justice though.

[Simple Fan]

List of supposed deleted scenes. Doesn't sound like there will be a Directors Cut as David Ayers has said that the theatrical release was his cut. Might see some in deleted scenes when it comes out on DVD and Blue Ray.

“In early cuts, the movie’s opening detailed June Moon’s possession by Enchantress in real time. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot.”
“Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.”
“El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.”
“El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quell his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.”
“Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang’s racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behavior, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.”
“Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearance and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham’s crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as ‘beautiful,’ one of these were retained in the final cut.”
“Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.”
“Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.”
“More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon’s romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.”
“Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date.”
“Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, “I can’t wait to show you my toys,” which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie.”
“Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.”
“Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker’s head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.”
“Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker.”
“Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.”
“Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.”
“Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley’s neck-bomb to be disabled.”
“More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad.”
“Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone’s orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, “is a good idea.” The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot’s speech about them all almost pulling the mission off.”
“Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.”
“Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.”
“Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.”

[Ruien]

Hope no one goes to this next weekend so I can have the 11 30am show all to myself.

[Lock Jaw]

Gonna go tomorrow on cheap Tuesday.....

[Ruien]

Is cheap Tuesday cheaper than cheap Sunday morning?

[Simple Fan]

Only costed me $5.50 on Satuday, thought that was cheap.

[Black Widow]

Suicide Squad was awesome, critics annoy me when it comes to reviewing 95% of movies but overall I love it.

I thought everyone nailed it mainly Smith & Margot

[drave]

Harley Quinn still seems weird without her thick accent.

[RP]

Suicide Squad was awesome, critics annoy me when it comes to reviewing 95% of movies but overall I love it.

I thought everyone nailed it mainly Smith & Margot

Well, the problem is the trailers. They hire these people to splice together these incredible trailers. The trailers become so good that the movie cant possibly live up to the hype and then leaves itself vulnerable to bad reviews because of such.

[Lock Jaw]

Just saw this movie. I must say that I enjoyed it. Was it perfect? No. It kept me entertained, though.

[drave]

How was Joker? Feel like Leto did a TON of work only for a lot of content to get cut.

[drave]

And no one else matters to me in that movie. Maybe Harley, but I already feel like I'm watching a different version without her yelling "MISTAH JAY!!!!"

[Lock Jaw]

Joker still looks dumb as hell as a "gangsta", and most of the time doesn't really feel like The Joker and more like a "gangsta" mob boss, but then other times he does feel like The Joker (but just looking dumb).

[Lock Jaw]

Also, couldn't stop thinking that Rick Flagg looked like Big Cass (except not 7 feet tall, and with short hair)

[Simple Fan]

And no one else matters to me in that movie. Maybe Harley, but I already feel like I'm watching a different version without her yelling "MISTAH JAY!!!!"

I though she sounded pretty good especially with the Mistah J line. Myself I liked the gangster Joker.

[drave]

Joker still looks dumb as hell as a "gangsta", and most of the time doesn't really feel like The Joker and more like a "gangsta" mob boss, but then other times he does feel like The Joker (but just looking dumb).


Even bangin a Rick Ross joint on the soundtrack, if I am not mistaken.

[drave]

Gangsta, this is how you do it

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[drave]

Chorus catchy as fuck

[VSG]

I really liked the movie. Heck, I am genuinely interested in more of this Joker as well. Screw the critics.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The trailer has zero to do with critical reception. It just wasn't a very good movie and was reviewed as such. The Dark Knight trilogy had stellar trailers and still received wide spread critical praise.

[Rammsteinmad]

I do love how DC fans get so wound up by their movies getting poor/mixed reviews.

Some of the stuff I read online is hilarious.

[Simple Fan]

Most the reviews I read are hilarious.

[Destor]

I do love how DC fans get so wound up by their movies getting poor/mixed reviews.

Some of the stuff I read online is hilarious.They really take it personal.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes was hilarious. The conspiracy theory that Rotten Tomatoes is out to get D.C. is even funnier, since Warner owns a third of RT's parent site, fandango.

Simple Fan with a typical D.C. fanboy response and claim that critics going in are looking for things to criticise. God forbid a movie you like getting negative critical reception that you're unable to understand or identify

[Simple Fan]

I'm not a DC fan boy, I like both Marvel and DC. I just think DC makes movies feel more like a comic book and I like them. I like the Marvel movies as well but these DC movies just fit me better. A lot of critics say there was no plot or story which is just stupid. I'm not sure what movie they were watching or if they even watched it.

[Destor]

I'm not a DC fan boy, I like both Marvel and DC. I just think DC makes movies feel more like a comic book and I like them. I like the Marvel movies as well but these DC movies just fit me better. A lot of critics say there was no plot or story which is just stupid. I'm not sure what movie they were watching or if they even watched it.
Its not that the plot is non existant, its that it's generic and paper thin.

[Simple Fan]

Well I've seen numerous reviews that claim there isn't a plot. The only reviews that really matter though are audience reviews which have been mostly positive.

[Destor]

No, they've been mostly mixed. 6.7 on metacritic for example.

[Lock Jaw]

Curious as to why you feel like DC Movies feel more like a comic book. Please list your reasons and cite your sources.

[Heyman]

Although Dark Knight Trilogies concluded 4 years ago, I need more of a 'time gap' between that movie, and whenever I can truly enjoy anything Batman-related again.

Dark Knight trilogies in my eyes, was almost perfect in anyway.......which is why anything, or any character associated with 'Batman' appearing in other movies in too short a time frame will 'annoy me.'

I wasn't ready to accept Ben Affleck's 'Batman.'
I am not ready to accept a non-Heath Ledger Joker.

Of course, that's just me, but I'd just personally prefer it if no Batman-Joker related movies came out until 2020 (which was my original hope).

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The plot was weak. The reason for the team to exist was non existent. Then all of a sudden, Enchantress, for some inexplicable reason, decides to turn on everyone and builds a nondescript machine of some sort that does something that's never quite explained.

The villain has no motive. The team is shoe horned into assembly. Flagg and Moon'sc relationship is never expanded. The Joker was completely useless to the story and entirely unneeded. The only character with any real heft was Deadshot. And to a smaller, last minute extent. Diablo.

It was also poorly paced. The beginning with all the origin stories was ok, but Wallerc repeating herself in back to back scenes was redundant. Then they start to recruit the squad for no reason. There's no imminent threat. So what was the point? They weren't needed until after the heel turn.

The action itself was also boring. Not to mention, sending in 4 humans to fight these God like beings makes no sense. They talk about these meta humans. But only Diablo fits that bill. Killer Croc has a skin disease but they present him as a man reptile hybrid but if I recall correctly never actually explain that.

The movie's a big mess. Whether you can acknowledge that or not. You bypassed all the criticism in the BvS thread and made the same dumb remark that people go in looking for flaws when the reality is the flaws are right there front and center. You just choose to ignore them and instead of acknowledging them you pretend that a large contingent of people saying the same thing must be wrong.

[Simple Fan]

No, they've been mostly mixed. 6.7 on metacritic for example.

Of the user reviews on metacritic 230 are positive while 87 are mixed with only 76 being negative. 6.7 is the average rating.

[Lock Jaw]

Echantress turning on everyone was not for an "inexplicable reason"..... just saying.....

The reason for the team to exist was also explained (in back to back scenes as you point out).

[Simple Fan]

Curious as to why you feel like DC Movies feel more like a comic book. Please list your reasons and cite your sources.

Just the way they are presented guess. Dawn of Justice felt like a comic book on the big screen to me. Could be that they have used a lot of source material in the movie to and some scenes have been straight from het comics. Marvel movies are good, they just have more of a Hollywood feel than a comic book one.

[Destor]

Of the user reviews on metacritic 230 are positive while 87 are mixed with only 76 being negative. 6.7 is the average rating.
6.7 is a mixed rating therefore the average rating is mixed.

[Destor]

Echantress turning on everyone was not for an "inexplicable reason"..... just saying.....

The reason for the team to exist was also explained (in back to back scenes as you point out).Yeah,was a huge problem for me. They had the movie start 4 times, and repeated all the information in those opening serveral times during the movie. Awful wrting/editing.


Enchantress had motives, they were just bland. Painfully so.

[Simple Fan]

I'm not arguing that I was simply referring to the reviews which are mostly positive.

[Destor]

I'm not arguing that I was simply referring to the reviews which are mostly positive.except the average response was mixed and not positive.

[Destor]

The impact of this "meh" reaction will be felt in the box office this weekend I wager.

[Destor]

Of course this is exactly what I said after BvS to the defiance by the same people on this forum. We'll know come monday if this is EXACTLY the same as BvS.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Sausage party and Pete's Dragon are likely to knock it on its ass when the time comes.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah,was a huge problem for me. They had the movie start 4 times, and repeated all the information in those opening serveral times during the movie. Awful wrting/editing.


Enchantress had motives, they were just bland. Painfully so.

Yeah.... sometimes felt like I was just watching a couple of trailers at the beginning, especially when they would use the music they used in the trailers in the movie for the same scenes they used the music for in the trailers.....

Like I said, not a perfect movie.

[Destor]

Sausage party and Pete's Dragon are likely to knock it on its ass when the time comes.
It had no major challenge last weekend and it wont this weekened either, though I doubt that plays a large role. All the air has gone out of the hype of this film, word of mouth is poor.


The vocal minority are the people saying its good, evidence of that will show show in just a few days.


Repeated views and word of mouth is what drives the blockbuster juggernauts to make the money they make. Opening wekeend is profits based off marketing and brand names. Going forward the film has to sell itself.


BvS couldnt do that, this likely wont either.

[Destor]

Yeah.... sometimes felt like I was just watching a couple of trailers, especially when they would use the music they used in the trailers in the movie for the same scenes they used the music for in the trailers.....

Like I said, not a perfect movie.
Also the ending. Both end to the final climatic sequence or the literal last frames were the most boring cliche piles of shit i've seen in a super hero flick since The Phantom.

[Lock Jaw]

About the soundtrack for the movie, I wonder if that was even the original soundtrack. Sometimes the songs felt kind of "out of place", and I wonder if it was a reaction like "Gee, everyone really loves our trailers using these rock songs, let's put these songs in the movie as well"

[Simple Fan]

Had the biggest Tuesday showing of August all time with $14.27 million up 9% from Monday. Beat Dawn of Justice, Avengers Civil War, and Age of Apocalypse for Tuesday showings.

[Destor]

Had the biggest Tuesday showing of August all time with $14.27 million up 9% from Monday. Beat Dawn of Justice, Avengers Civil War, and Age of Apocalypse for Tuesday showings.

Thats really ominous. So basically people heard bad things so they waited for the absolute cheapest showing of the week. The tues early bird. The plumit is def about to begin.

[drave]

Thats really ominous. So basically people heard bad things so they waited for the absolute cheapest showing of the week. The tues early bird. The plumit is def about to begin.


Or they just don't want to pay $$$$$$ for a movie when they can pay $$ for purely economic reasons.

The Advocate goes both directions.


This thread is largely full of obsessive, overly-self-important armchair critics who couldn't put together something better, myself included.

It was what it was, which was entertaining. Comparing any written media to the movie counterpart is dumb because you cannot possibly cram all the cool shit that makes the "book vs movie" argument in the book favor.

[Destor]

Or they just don't want to pay $$$$$$ for a movie when they can pay $$ for purely economic reasons.

Yeah, ill come back to this monday

Time will see either way then

[Ruien]

Getting people to shell out 6 dollar per person is still something most films can't do.

[drave]

Yeah, ill come back to this monday

Time will see either way then


Because next Monday has a shit ton to do with whether people choose to be economically savvy nor not :yes:


A shit movie is a shit movie, but all I have read is how everything is actually explained, it is just "too thin" - which is entirely subjective. Thin is usually what these types of movie will be, as they are meant to be "fun" and "entertaining" not make you think about "life" like The Matrix.

When trying to make the most $$$$$$$ overall, appeal to the masses and not the mouth breathing neck beards who will bitch about stuff that the majority don't even care about and/or won't notice.

Kinda like WWE and Cena, Reigns, etc. The "Cena sucks" crowd is minority, hence why WWE doesn't give a shit after 10+ years about said crowd. Cena plays it well by goading them and giving them attention because it keeps people "hating" him.

[drave]

Getting people to shell out 6 dollar per person is still something most films can't do.


My wife and I took our son to see the new Ice Age movie in 3D. Tickets were $16 a piece, but they also reserved our seats when we bought the tickets @ the box office, had leather recliners and moveable, folding trays to put your food on.

When the experience is THAT comfortable and enjoyable, I'm happy to pay the money.

[Simple Fan]

Sounds like you went to a Movie Tavern like theater, we have one in Lexington and
I believe I seen Guardian's of the Galaxy at it. Is very cool to get food delivered to you before the movie starts but is definitely more expensive than a regular theater.

[Crimson]

My wife and I took our son to see the new Ice Age movie in 3D. Tickets were $16 a piece, but they also reserved our seats when we bought the tickets @ the box office, had leather recliners and moveable, folding trays to put your food on.

When the experience is THAT comfortable and enjoyable, I'm happy to pay the money.

Wow what a ripoff. Same exact setting at my area still 5$ Tuesdays

Usually the fancy theatres where they serve beer or bring you food directly are about 20$ a ticket

[Fignuts]

Just got back. Some fun parts but overall, I can understand why critics are giving it the business. I said earlier that they hired a company that cuts trailers to edit the movie. That is very apparent, as this is some of the worst editing in a movie I've ever seen.

They tried to flesh out some of the other charactwrs besides Deadshot and Harley, butit just felt rushed. And Croc may well as not even been there.

I liked the villain, but I'm a sucker for ancient near omnipotent types. The problem with those types is that it's difficult to get most people to care about a villain they can't in any way identify with, or understand, and that seems to be the case here.

I honestly don't know what to think of Leto's Joker. Wasn't bad. Wasn't particularly memorable either.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Here's something that made no sense. Diablo's wife marries a guy with a skull tattooed on his face, and seems stunned to find out he's a gangster with guns and money obtained by, I'd assume, committing crimes.

[Mr. USA #1]

Does anyone commit suicide in this movie film?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Only after watching it brand new never before seen on here Mr.USA#1 poster

[Ruien]

Sorry Destor. My brother went to see it last night and it was almost sold out. At the 11 15am show this morning it is more than half full.

[Ruien]

Negative points for the lack of pokemon though.

[Ruien]

That movie was awesome. Sure, if you want to grt technical there were some weird editing that went on but whatever. This is 100 times better than BvS. Can't wait for the next one. Boomerang man was stupid though.

[McLegend]

I agree. I also really liked Will Smith being Will Smith. I forgot how my much I like Will Smith.

However I didn't like The Joker. I'm glad he had a lot of his scenes cut. Harley was good though.

[Destor]

Suicide Squad looks to have dropped 67% this weekend, almost tieing BvS 69% record shattering drop. Course 2nd all time greatest week 2 drop is worth mentioning. Still could possibly pass BvS but today would have to topple projections based off friday and saturday.

Regardless history has repeated itself.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Yep. Word of mouth not strong.

[Destor]

What I'm sure Warner is taking away from this is the with out question have the greatest marketing team in the busisness but that they were right to shift the franchise in another direction post JL:1

[Damian Rey 2.0]

More like post Wonder Woman. They were already filming WW when BvS released. If there is to be a change, won't be until after that film. At least that's what I'm thinking

[Destor]

Lets hope not, i had high hopes for it

[Damian Rey 2.0]

After 3 films, I'm done with hope. I'll likely still go see them Just to see them. But I've lost faith in Warner and D.C. actually knowing what they're doing.

[Lock Jaw]

Really hope Wonder Woman can be good

[Kalyx triaD]

Enchantress was pretty hot.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Not was. Is. Cara Delevingne is maybe my favorite girl right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm not even talking about the doctor side. Her decrepit, witch form. Not the glowing version, the ghostly form. There was something 'dirty hot' about that form. I dunno.

I'd let her touch me in that meeting room. Funny scene, btw.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/09/16/10/caradelevingne.jpg

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Oh sweet Jesus. And Kalyx, I agree. Her dirty witch form was sexy as fuck.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

$43 million this past weekend. Think that's around a 70% drop from its opening weekend I believe.

[Destor]

67% officially the third largest drop ever behind BvS amd FanFourstic Four in that order.

[Nicky Fives]

Watched a home camera version online because I didn't think I'd enjoy it enough to spend the money to see it, yet wanted to see the hype was about.... I wasn't a huge fan and was glad I spent the money to see Sausage Party instead.....

[Destor]

SS made $6mil yeasterday on its 3rd friday. Tim Burton's Batman made $6 mil its 3rd Friday without being adjusted for inflation.

[Rammsteinmad]

So this is pretty much the first superhero/comic book movie I haven't been to see in cinemas since Catwoman. I usually make a point of seeing all these types of films but there is just nothing about this film that interests me. Didn't get any excitement from the trailers, and all the feedback/reviews has hardly swayed my opinion.

Anyone feel like I'm missing out here?

[Sixx]

So this is pretty much the first superhero/comic book movie I haven't been to see in cinemas since Catwoman. I usually make a point of seeing all these types of films but there is just nothing about this film that interests me. Didn't get any excitement from the trailers, and all the feedback/reviews has hardly swayed my opinion.

Anyone feel like I'm missing out here?

i feel ya, it's been sitting on my HD for a while now and i still haven't seen it. rewatched civil war and apocalypse but didn't give this one a shot. just... don't feel like it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

You're not missing out. It's a boring, choppy, convoluted mess. There's some ok cues to the comics, but that's it.

[Rammsteinmad]

This is also an absolute internet sin, but I don't give a fuck about Margot Robbie.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Nah. She's pretty and all. But who isn't these days? She did well with she was given but there's nothing interesting to see there.

Wish they'd give the animated series guys a shot at live action. Batman, Superman, JLU, Young Justice, so many great stories within them.

Give those a guys a chance to turn the ship.

[Ruien]

Keep forgetting to post this. One huge reason I enjoyed this was because of the main SWAT guy. He is the one male cop in The Killing tv show and he was so damn amazing in it. When I noticed it was him in the movie I popped a little.

[Kalyx triaD]

On second viewing it's dawned on me that the stinger is really a tease for a potential SS vs JL event movie. Outside of doing a Crisis movie, this is the closest DCCU can get to an event film in the likes of Civil War.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The JL would mop the fucking floor with these guys. Diablo is the only one with a shot against any of them.

[Kalyx triaD]

If Waller had dirt on the same meta humans Bruce looked into, which the stinger confirms, I'd hazard a guess she has counter strategies in her pocket. Remember for a brief while she had a witch who, if all of Superman's weaknesses carry over from comics, could have gave Superman some trouble. Batman and Deadshot never finished their bout. A recouped Suicide Squad after research on the JL may be a more even match then you think.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I'd be down for a Ben Affleck v Will Smith movie.

[drave]

Batman/Deadshot would be great.