Captain America: Civil War

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.heroes-foraday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Concept-art_Captain_America-vs_IronMan-CivilWar.jpg

Captain America: Civil War picks up where Avengers: Age of Ultron left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.

[loopydate]

Just announced that Martin Freeman will be in this. His specific role hasn't been confirmed yet.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think William Hurt was rumored to return as General Ross, which may in turn confirm Hulk.

Charlie Cox also expressed interest in appearing. Give Charlie Cox what he wants.

[Kalyx triaD]

Also #TeamCap

[The Destroyer]

I dunno if I could see Hulk appearing, it's pretty damn crowded as it is.

[Kalyx triaD]

Perhaps he causes trouble for both sides and they launch his ass into space.

[Big Vic]

Is think about the movie or the sound track? I DONT KNOWWWWW!

[JimmyMess]

I would love to see Hurt's General Ross return at some point.

[mitch_h]

Winter Soldier is probably my favourite superhero movie not directed by Christopher Nolan so I'm pretty excited for this. I'm glad the Russo bros are back too.

[Rammsteinmad]

Charlie Cox appearing in this would be great, and would make sense.

[Lock Jaw]

Should probably have just called this movie Marvel's Civil War.

Feel like it could be a "good movie", but it has no chance of being a "good Captain America movie". If you know what I mean....

[ClockShot]

A lot of shit went down during the Civil War.

Unless this is gonna be a 4+ hour epic or split into a few parts, I don't know how Marvel is gonna pull this off.

[Lock Jaw]

They don't have to adapt the story 100%.

Much like how Winter Soldier was not the same as the comic book Winter Soldier storyline.

Or how Age of Ultron was nothing like the comic book storyline (aside from having Ultron).

[Kalyx triaD]

Same way they pulled off the other stories; condense and focus on the most important threads. Cap and Stark got beef. Niggas chose a side. A big bad is in the background. Somebody's gonna lose hard. I won't mind the fat they'll have to trim.

Infinity War deserves two parts because fuck that.

[alvarado52]

Yeah, but a lot of Civil War was a bit unnecessary fluff. The focus on the two reporters, Wolverine chasing down whats his face....removing those items, and focusing just on Iron Man and Cap's main pages could fit into a 2 hour flick.

[McLegend]

Random speculation from myself about that plot.

Captain America and Tony Stark aren't fighting each other because of the super hero registration act... They are fighting each other because Stark wants to kill The Winter Solider because the Winter Solider killed his Father, and Captain America obviously does not want Stark to kill the Winter Solider.


I think I'm on the money with this one.

[slik]

^

That's not bad, I could see that

[Hanso Amore]

i agree it will be something different like that. There will be no registration act because there are no unknown super humans.

[Kalyx triaD]

Concept art of Stark's Civil War armor was leaked. Like the pic above it is certainly Bleeding Edge with shades of Mk.V from IM2. Can't link it yet, on my phone. Looks nice.

[Kalyx triaD]

https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11244926_10152727428021338_3475480399615412262_n.jpg?oh=974c1df5736a5cbfd5af3fa507e73e0c&oe=55D4926B

[Rammsteinmad]

I assumed they'd be fighting over what kicked off in AOU. Instead of a Registration Act, it's this world-wide protection program that they can't agree on. Cap already had issues with how SHIELD is doing things in Winter Soldier, and we all saw what happened with Ultron. Can't remember the quote but when he was on about "this isn't protection, this is fear" or something along those lines.

The idea of Iron Man trying to kill Winter Soldier seems a bit naff to be honest. Considering that Stark was responsible for a fucking robot that killed countless people/destroyed a city... seems a bit lame to suddenly base an epic movie like Civil War on a case of "you killed my Dad, now I kill you". Especially if it'll involve other MCU characters who probably have no stakes in it whatsoever.

[Blonde Moment]

There is some shit going down in AOS right now that might have a bearing on the whys as well. Shield is currently "cataloging" any superhumans they come across and apparently the leader of the MU Inhumans has decided to go to war with Shield.

[Shadow]

Won't have anything to do with this I'm afraid as that'll all be resolved by next week and/or the beginning of next season.

I'm really intrigued at what they've got planned for this. As this isn't a movie to burn out RDJ's contract and will be the last one Chris Evans does until Avenger's 3. Martin Freeman's addition is interesting as they haven't told us what character he's playing. Some people want him to be Wong for the Doctor Strange link but I dunno. We'll have to see.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Lol would kinda love it if they went a bit mental and gave Martin Freeman over-the-top Asian stereotype makeup, clothing and accent just to have him be Cumbertbatches sidekick again.

[rad dggy dg]

Hi everyone it's me rad dggy dg and I think Civil War will be a really popular film at your local cinema.

[The Destroyer]

http://marvel.com/news/movies/24586/marvel_studios_begins_production_on_marvels_captain_america_civil_war

Cast has been officially announced for Cap 3. General Ross is back, Ant Man is involved and pretty much all the Avengers seem to be in it. No word on who Freeman is playing.

[Kalyx triaD]

Fuuuuuuuck

[Rammsteinmad]

So it's basically Avengers 3! :D

No mention of Daredevil, but hopefully he'll be included.

[alvarado52]

I agree with what someone said earlier, that they should just drop the "Captain America" portion of the name and simply go with Civil War.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah.... definitely not a Captain America movie.... Just call it what it is...

[Lock Jaw]

And for those too lazy to click the link, the "synopsis":

“Captain America: Civil War” picks up where “Avengers: Age of Ultron” left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.

[Kalyx triaD]

'Avengers: Civil War'

[ClockShot]

It's got Crossbones.

IT'S GOT CROSSBONES, DAMNIT! Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!?

[Fignuts]

Feel like they should have begged and pleaded Hugo Weaving to come back as the Red Skull to be the mastermind behind everything. Or gotten someone else and made the mask look a little like weaving. Especially if Crossbones is in it.

Baron Zemo is just such a lame Red Skull wanna be.

"oooooo look, me and my buddies broke into your house and beat up your butler! Aren't I nefarious?!"

Fucking loser.

[alvarado52]

Also, is this still going head to head with BvS? I remember people kinda chuckling if a Cap film could compete with the BvS hype...now im wondering the opposite.

[The Destroyer]

Nah Dawn of Justice got brought forward, it's out in March now.

[Sixx]

Civil War script supposedly leaked online. Might as well be fake. But it's pretty cool.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BritsKingdom/news/?a=120220

[Sixx]

I should say MOST LIKELY fake. Still fun.

[Rammsteinmad]

Skimmed through it. Doesn't seem too unrealistic, although some of it does seem pretty obvious if look at events in Civil War and look at where the MCU is headed.

[Reavant]

I read it... i loved it

[Destor]

So will antman die instead of goliath? :p

[Reavant]

will tony make a fake thor? lol

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm thinking this will be the 'Empire' of the MCU. The Avengers and likely superheroes in general will be left in a really drab state. And Ragnarok will probably be similarly dire, leaving Thanos to colossally troll literally everybody involved.

[Lock Jaw]

Please never use "troll" and "Thanos" in relation to each other ever again. Thank you.

[Fignuts]

Pip the Troll was eviscerated by Thanos.

What about that?

[Lock Jaw]

"Troll" as in the "Internet Troll" context

[Kalyx triaD]

I used in the context that he's gonna fuck up everybody.

I did not mean he was gonna leave mean comments on Cap's Twitter.

[Kalyx triaD]

Though that would be awesome.

"Your politics BORE me, Captain. #InifnitySwag #DoinItMyself #TeamME #BatmanvSuperman"

[Lock Jaw]

I used in the context that he's gonna fuck up everybody.

I know that is what you meant, but don't use the word "troll" to try to convey that. Thank you.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're trollin bro.

[ClockShot]

Arrgh. Here ye be Crossbones.

https://i.imgur.com/4yJDnwr.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/4yJDnwr.jpg)

[Shadow]

K that's badass.

[Sixx]

What the hell is that on his hands?

[Rammsteinmad]

Woohoo! Awesome!

Is this the guy that was in Winter Soldier? Wasn't one of them called Crossbones?

[Rammsteinmad]

Woop! Just checked myself! Yeah it's him! I love continuity. :D

[Sixx]

Woohoo! Awesome!

Is this the guy that was in Winter Soldier? Wasn't one of them called Crossbones?

He wasn't called that in Winter Soldier, but yeah, he was that Hydra agent that got badly burnt after fighting Falcon at the end of the movie.


https://38.media.tumblr.com/93c1b2df730011a296c83d1085927933/tumblr_n9nyrs7Rrd1qclkveo1_500.gif

[ClockShot]

What the hell is that on his hands?

Super duper brass knuckles by the look of it.

[Fignuts]

Badass

[Sixx]

Needs more skullteeth.

[VSG]

I am wondering what Martin Freeman will be playing here. A mini boss that continues across movies till Thanos takes over?

[Sixx]

I am wondering what Martin Freeman will be playing here. A mini boss that continues across movies till Thanos takes over?

Most likely a SHIELD agent.

[Sixx]

Crossbones unmasked:

http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/grillo-unmasked3/frank-grillo-is-unmasked-as-crossbones-on-civil-war-set-02.jpg

[The Destroyer]

Thought he'd be a lot more fucked up looking than that.

[Sixx]

Thought he'd be a lot more fucked up looking than that.

He should. That's him from the end of Winter Soldier:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/d/db/Romlow_Burned2.png/revision/latest?cb=20141126072904

[Kalyx triaD]

Probably got some super juice.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hawkeye on set.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFjzX0xWYAASe3V.jpg

[The Destroyer]

Probably got some super juice.
That or maybe the makeup's only around his eyes because that's all you can see through that helmet, or something.

Maybe just had the helmet off between takes.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's probably it. Makes sense.

[Damian Rey]

Did you guys know Winter Soldier is my favorite Marvel movie and I'm hoping this is brilliant?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah the standard is high. Believe in the Russos.

[Lock Jaw]

Don't have too much faith in this not being overcrowded....

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I've had that concern about the MCU in general for a while. Age of Ultron definitely had issues with being quite overcrowded, so it's likely to continue as things get bigger. I mean, I'll still enjoy the films, but there'll just be some underlying concerns. I think some of the stand alone films will still be very good, but I don't think the multiple character films will reach the standard of The Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

I want as many characters as possible.

[Damian Rey]

The Avengers will likely be the pinnacle of Marvel films. Also feel like quite a bit of their solo efforts are good but rather forgettable. Iron Man, Winter Soldier and Guardians stand out as their best solo acts, but the rest seem meh to me.

At some point, they're going to hit a wall. Maybe it was Ultron. Maybe a film to follow. Who knows.

Also feel like the lack of truly threatening, iconic villain also takes away from the franchises.

I'm not trying to shit on Marvel, here. Just thinking maybe their films are going to start to take a bit of a bit quality wise with the ever growing universe they're still adding to.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I think with them introducing more heroes though, they'll still knock out good solo films like Dr Strange and Black Panther. I'm expecting Civil War to be huge, but hopefully most of the guest cast are just simply guests and they don't try to cram too many plots into the one film.

The other thing that's a bit frustrating is that there's hardly going to be any surprises to the film considering every single scene they shoot ends up getting posted on the Internet, but that's more a general fault with Hollywood in general right now. Imagine going into this film not knowing Crossbones was going to be in it and seeing it for the first time in the film itself, rather than these pictures from the past week.

[Kalyx triaD]

Who would think he wouldn't be in there, though? Among us, I mean.

A more egregious example would be somebody spilling the Hydra twist of Winter Soldier. Overall Marvel does a good job hiding the really important stuff. And the kind of person who wouldn't know Crossbones would return, are also the type that don't frequent the sites we do.

I shit you not people in the theater were shocked by Winter Soldier turning out to be Bucky. It was kind of refreshing to know a bulk of the movie goers are actually being introduced to this stuff. Only we are jaded.

[Rammsteinmad]

Best thing to do is just stay out of these threads.

[Hanso Amore]

To be fair, these movies being so overcrowded is just about the most faithful to the comics thing there is.

[Fignuts]

We got the Hulkbuster Armor in Age of Ultron. I can't wait for Civil War to see the cinematic debut of Iron Man's Huge Dickhead Armor.

[Lock Jaw]

http://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/1554_4_15.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Those fuckers came back in some event years ago.

[Sixx]

https://i.imgur.com/4EIZPFw.jpg

More pics:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=123929

[Miotch]

The helmet looks a little strange to me in those photos. It's a mask normally, yeah? Not overly worried about it though.

[Sixx]

I think it looks alright. Guess they'll add some CGI or something, cause the eyeholes are showing his umm eyes and a bit of his face, too. Dunno.

[Kalyx triaD]

Edit: Trailer's Fake

[alvarado52]

No doubt it's legit, but descriptions I've read have a lot more dialogue in them.

Also, they acknowledged Phil!? God let him be in it.

[Hanso Amore]

Fake

[Hanso Amore]

Publuished June 18th?

[Hanso Amore]

Confirmed fake

[alvarado52]

Yeah, after reading the guys own description where he says he voiced Crossbones and the guy talking to Hill, you're absolutely right to call it fake. A convincing fake, but fake nonetheless.

Way to drop the ball Kalyx.

[Hanso Amore]

Kalyx is a piece of shit to be fair

[Kalyx triaD]

Major fail on my end. Especially since on multiple viewings I have in fact seen that Iron Man vs War Machine fan film before. The blurriness, convincing edit, and sharing after a single viewing caused me to jump the gun as well as making sure I could get it here before it would be taken down (had it been real). With future movies I will better scrutinize 'leaked' trailers especially in the click-bait era of media.

While I don't drop news as often as I used to I have built something of a standard years ago in regard to this, and have gotten potentially lazy either not sharing news I see or not vetting well enough the source of certain rumors. While I will still speculate on rumors on here time to time, I have to double my standards on what will be certain for games and movies, and make a better effort in noting what I'm speculating on vs hard info (on top of catching fake news/media).

Footage of Civil War was indeed at D23 that's for sure. be on a look out. As for this case I'm sorry and it won't happen again. I know seeing a thread updated on a much anticipated movie can be exciting and become a major buzzkill after something turns out fake. I'm sorry. Never again. I can do better.

[alvarado52]

I feel like after you issued this press release, you pulled a gun out of a manila envelop and shot yourself in the head.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually it was a Splatoon zapper.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Major fail on my end. Especially since on multiple viewings I have in fact seen that Iron Man vs War Machine fan film before. The blurriness, convincing edit, and sharing after a single viewing caused me to jump the gun as well as making sure I could get it here before it would be taken down (had it been real). With future movies I will better scrutinize 'leaked' trailers especially in the click-bait era of media.

While I don't drop news as often as I used to I have built something of a standard years ago in regard to this, and have gotten potentially lazy either not sharing news I see or not vetting well enough the source of certain rumors. While I will still speculate on rumors on here time to time, I have to double my standards on what will be certain for games and movies, and make a better effort in noting what I'm speculating on vs hard info (on top of catching fake news/media).

Footage of Civil War was indeed at D23 that's for sure. be on a look out. As for this case I'm sorry and it won't happen again. I know seeing a thread updated on a much anticipated movie can be exciting and become a major buzzkill after something turns out fake. I'm sorry. Never again. I can do better.

Fucking hell

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Just say "oh it's fake. My bad" you massive blirt.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nope. Experience tells me that blowing it off makes me a cunt. So when I'm called out I take special care to concede so I have something to point to. It's never that serious when something's levied against me, only when I - of all things to bitch about - attempt to make amends.

One of the reasons people have been conditioned to stand their ground even when shown to be wrong. Almost as if you people expected me to bitch out with excuses. Nope. Take the apology.

[Sixx]

This is serious fucking business, simple "my bad" won't cut it. Let him repent.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Fucking hell.

[Hanso Amore]

"Built up a standard"

Aren't you like 35 living in studio apartment or your moms basemrnt or something?

Aren't you like a sandwich artist pretending to be some kind of game journalist?

What's your deal IRL

[Simple Fan]

http://ben-bussey.tumblr.com/post/126819848965/captain-america-civil-war-d23-trailer-promises


Description of the trailer that showed at D23.

[Ruien]

KT made a post and a bunch of people jumped on him. What a shocker.

[Sixx]

KT made a post and a bunch of people jumped on him. What a shocker.

Noone jumped on him for posting a fake trailer, though. Happens.

But the post that followed was just histerical.

[Kalyx triaD]

There's a whole lotta jumpin goin on here.

[Kalyx triaD]

"Built up a standard"

Aren't you like 35 living in studio apartment or your moms basemrnt or something?

Aren't you like a sandwich artist pretending to be some kind of game journalist?

What's your deal IRL

:roll:

This is par, fellas.

[Hanso Amore]

My ball busting aside what is the deal.
Like I think you had a blog at one point but what do you see yourself as?

[Kalyx triaD]

A dude? I'm not sure what you're asking.

Do you wanna know what I think of myself? Is that to compare it to what you think of me? ie: "You think you're this but you're actually this..."

Just out with your point don't be a bitch about it.

[Hanso Amore]

My god you suck.

I'm asking what you do for a living, or hobby, that you feel the need to "have a standard". Like do you still have the blog? Do you see yourself as a source to provide news to people? Do you think you are some form of journalist? Maybe you even are.

I've always said you are a self important moron and it's showing through here.

[Kalyx triaD]

No, you're not liking how I'm responding to you. You've made yourself pretty clear what you think of me so I'm not sure why you think, "So hey you still gotta blog, dude" doesn't come off as anything but a prelude to the latest Kalyx Deconstruction. I mean if you meant to know what I've been doing and why I hold to a standard at all that's cool and I'm sorry. But I don't have much reason to believe you'd be that straight forward given past interaction. Or merely this most recent passing of you calling me a piece of shit, which I didn't even respond to, and then you're like, "Why are you responding to me like this?"

You're being bitch-made right now. I'm just being verbose. Self important people don't apologize to dudes on the internet.

[Rammsteinmad]

Fucking hell lads sort your lives out.

[Ruien]

Anyways,

In the comic books was there a bunch of crappy super heroes choosing a side or were there a bunch of bad ass super heroes choosing sides?

[loopydate]

Both

[Sixx]

Villains, too.

[Sixx]

Har, Civil War even had Phone Ranger.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/1/15776/1415678-phoneranger.jpg

They should get Brad Pitt to play him or something.

[Fignuts]

Makes Calculator's old costume look like Darkseid

[Ruien]

Har, Civil War even had Phone Ranger.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/1/15776/1415678-phoneranger.jpg

They should get Brad Pitt to play him or something.

I bet the side he was on won.

[Sixx]

He's got all the superheroes on speed dial.

[Rammsteinmad]

Having a super famous celeb actor make a cameo as a super shitty, dorky hero like that Captain Telephone or whatever his name is, would be pretty funny.

[Sixx]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img909/7016/rsSka2.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img673/5126/7bkD6q.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img911/6006/mUtCgk.jpg

Disappointed in T'Challa's allegiance.

[Shadow]

Thought he was supposed to be neutral in this and Spider-Man was on Iron Man's side.

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't know Mockingbird was gonna be in this... cool...

Wonder if Phil Coulson will make an appearance... finally let The Avengers know he isn't dead....

[Sixx]

It's Sharon Carter, not Mockingbird.

And it's not really surprising this doesn't feature Spiderman seeing how they want to keep his look a secret and whatnot.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh.... ok. Really looked like Mockingbird there... upon closer inspection, you are correct, though....

Really wanted Black Widow to be on Cap's side... liked the Cap/Widow dynamic from the last film... Thought she would stick with him after that... especially after standing up to the gov't at the end of Winter Soldier and such....

[Miotch]

Who is the blonde with Cap?

[Lock Jaw]

Sharon Carter... she was in Winter Soldier as his neighbour who turned out to be a SHIELD agent....

[alvarado52]

Where's Scarlet Witch?

[Sixx]

She's on Cap's side, no idea why she ain't in the promo art.

[slik]

Looks good

[Kalyx triaD]

I wouldn't trust Black Widow's placement there. Remember what she does for a living.

[Kalyx triaD]

LOL I did NOT catch Ant-Man on Hawkeye's shoulder!

[Sepholio]

I'm Tony Stark.

Bitch.

[Rammsteinmad]

Looks pretty awesome! I wouldn't expect this to be on the same scope as the comics, but overall the teams look pretty well-rounded. Obviously with Spider-Man somewhere in the mix as well, Civil War is shaping up to be an awesome movie.

[slik]

I bet Black Widow is secretly working for Cap.

I feel like i'm on Cap's side and I don't even know why they are fighting.

[Sixx]

I bet Black Widow is secretly working for Cap.

I feel like i'm on Cap's side and I don't even know why they are fighting.

Tony Stark is a nazi, that's all you need to know.

[Shadow]

Tony Stark in the comics is a Nazi. Tony Stark in the movies is a playboy

[Sixx]

Tony Stark in the comics is a Nazi. Tony Stark in the movies is a playboy

Yes, well, doubt Civil War in the movies is gonna happen cause of his fucking ways.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Ant-Man being with Hawkeye gives me hope for a live action version of this

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6-WvKDIQato/VXsH8fjHlWI/AAAAAAAAIS8/rtwG4AaA_Yk/s400/0neAHGT.gif

[Kalyx triaD]

That was amazing. EMH was great.

[slik]

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[Lock Jaw]

Sweet..... will probably be a "mess", but excited for this. Bit at the end was "cool".

[Fignuts]

Making the conflict about Bucky. Didn't see that coming, but I like it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Thank you Marvel. Thank you Russos.

[Sixx]

Sweet..... will probably be a "mess", but excited for this. Bit at the end was "cool".

What makes you say that?

MCU hasn't done anything to make us doubt it yet.

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah!!! This looks sick! Seems weird seeing so many characters in a movie titled "Captain America", but still, looks awesome! Such a long wait ahead of us, though.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Looks sweet. There's a lot to fit in, but I think it'll be handled better than Age of Ultron by focusing mostly on Cap, Stark and Bucky, with everyone else having lesser roles to play. Age of Ultron was a bit of a mess trying to give everyone equal screen time.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah this is a Cap story and a Winter Soldier sequel overall.

[alvarado52]

glad they didnt compromise continuity of the Cap films.

[KIRA]

Looks sweet. There's a lot to fit in, but I think it'll be handled better than Age of Ultron by focusing mostly on Cap, Stark and Bucky, with everyone else having lesser roles to play. Age of Ultron was a bit of a mess trying to give everyone equal screen time.

I wondered why my friends weren't talking it up as the new greatest thing they ever saw.

[JimmyMess]

fuck yeah. made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

[Lock Jaw]

What makes you say that?

MCU hasn't done anything to make us doubt it yet.

Seems like "too many characters/stuff going on" like Age of Ultron....

[Fignuts]

To be fair, Age of Ultron had a lot of cut content.

[JimmyMess]

Seems like "too many characters/stuff going on" like Age of Ultron....

just sounds like searching for something negative to say IMO

[Reavant]

Making the conflict about Bucky. Didn't see that coming, but I like it.

Then you have done a great job avoiding spoilers

[Reavant]

apparently the story is gunna go that Bucky actually killed Howard Stark when he was brainwashed and that is why Tony is trying so hard to get him

[Shadow]

Damn. So the story is about Bucky and some oversight committee run by Thunderbolt Ross trying to take over the Avengers.

[McLegend]

That shit was deep at the end.

[Damian Rey]

Loved Tony's line at the end.

[Disturbed316]

Looks like it's going to be amazing.

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't even clue in on the fact that mustache suit man in the trailer is General Thunderbolt Ross until I went to work and someone told me it was him.

Looks like an entirely different person. Face shape has changed.... (obviously along with his hair, mustache, and clothes)

[Kalyx triaD]

He moved up in the game. Kinda wish Banner was in for some old dynamic play. Also, with Incredible Hulk kinda being the stepson of the MCU it's nice that they remind us it was in fact a Phase 1 movie.

[Sixx]

apparently the story is gunna go that Bucky actually killed Howard Stark when he was brainwashed and that is why Tony is trying so hard to get him

That was the deal in the comic books.

[Kalyx triaD]

Eventually Stark will find out about it, and that will be a big deal. But even outside of that, Buck's at least a known HYDRA super assassin linked to who knows how many kills. Cap is risking a lot just being seen palling around with him.

[alvarado52]

Wait for it....

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[Rammsteinmad]

Well, shit just got real.

[Lock Jaw]

Not a fan of the costume is my initial reaction, but I'm sure it is fine.

Marked out more for Steve saying "I can do this all day"

[alvarado52]

The face is very classic Spidey, but I am more of a fan of the larger eyes on the mask and think they nailed it in Amazing Spiderman 2

[JimmyMess]

SPIDER MAN SPIDER MAN I JUST BLEW A LOAD IN MY HAND.

i'm real excited for this!!!!!!

[Fignuts]

Steve ditko spidey. I like it.

[Sixx]

what is that he's saying, though

sounds like "hey, ruien"

[Fignuts]

Hey everyone

[Fignuts]

Also, lol @ "underoos".

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I like that his eyes will be animated.

[Rammsteinmad]

The face is very classic Spidey, but I am more of a fan of the larger eyes on the mask and think they nailed it in Amazing Spiderman 2

Yeah, Amazing Spider-Man 2 costume was absolutely perfect! But this one looks cool! Can't wait for this to come out!

[Ruien]

what is that he's saying, though

sounds like "hey, ruien"

That's right. I am being setup to make a suprise entrance in the movie.

[road doggy dogg]

this looks cool

[Lock Jaw]

I like that his eyes will be animated.

Didn't even notice at first.... seems dumb....

[Fignuts]

I like it. He's always expressed emotion through his eyes in the comics, so it makes sense to use that technology.

In previous films spidey had to get the shit kicked out of him and have his mask ripped to show any emotion. This is better, imo.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, you prob right.... initial instinct is "it makes no sense for a costume to have animated eyes", but then... you know.... pretty much everything is "unrealistic" because it is a comic book movie, so it actually fits right in. Will prob be fine.

[VSG]

Marked out hard at Spidey, but didn't expect him to be on Team Iron Man. I like the costume also.

[Emperor Smeat]

Trailer was really good.


Marked out hard at Spidey, but didn't expect him to be on Team Iron Man. I like the costume also.
Was he on the same side in the comics?

[Lock Jaw]

He was on Iron Man's side in the comics.... Until changing his mind.

[Emperor Smeat]

Even though he probably didn't (never read the comics), going to just assume Spiderman pulled a "Hollywood Hogan" with the heel turn on Iron Man.

[Fignuts]

Was more of a face turn. Iron man wad a huge dickhead.

[JimmyMess]

Yeah I totally dig spideys outfit... and it will have loads of Stark-tech in it.. like the eyes.

[Wishbone]

This is the best looking Superhero movie coming out right now. It's leaps and bounds ahead of anything else. Can't wait to see it.

[Kalyx triaD]

His eyes aren't Deadpool animated they had a servo sound to it. Guessing its optical tech in universe, but of course to have the expressive effect like Deadpool. I'm cool with the costume overall. Amazing 2 perfected it on screen and the only way to go was to make an MCU version to differentiate from Amazing and Raimi.

[Disturbed316]

It's an interesting take on the costume, not what I was expecting but it looks decent.

[Sixx]

costume is cool

i think this movie has a chance of actually making civil war more interesting

as in, in the comics, it was impossible to root for ironman's side, he was just a gigantic asshole, but here, with RDJ's charm I think he might actually seem like a good choice or something

[Fignuts]

costume is cool

i think this movie has a chance of actually making civil war more interesting

as in, in the comics, it was impossible to root for ironman's side, he was just a gigantic asshole, but here, with RDJ's charm I think he might actually seem like a good choice or something

Yeah, I think involving bucky as a major plot point helps as well.

I've never liked the civil war comic. You have to have certain suspension of disbelief when reading comics, as there are plenty of plot holes. The biggest of which is that thengovernment would just let thousands of super powered vigilantes run amok.

As readers we're able to ignore itand enjoy the comic, but when it is the focal point of the story, you can't ignore it, and it shatters any suspension of disbelief you had.

Marvel's tagline was "pick a side", but superhero registration is such a realistic, and logical choice, that tney had to write a bunch of pro reg people completely out of character, almost to the point of being villains, for anyone to pick cap's side.

That's why involving bucky is a brilliant stroke. Because now it can genuinely pull the audience in two directions. While the registration act may be a good idea, you may not be too keen on it if they were imprisoning a friend who was only a victim. The whole thing makes it much easier to empathize with cap's viewpoint.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Very much look forward to seeing this. I do still feel concern with the amount of characters on screen. However, Stark and Cap are far and away my favorite characters of the universe, and Winter Soldier was my fav Marvel movie.

Pretty certain this will hit it out of the park.

[Kalyx triaD]

I think there was more nuance to Civil War 616 then you're giving it credit for. Sure Stark was written as a light antagonist overall but there were valid points for both sides. The fallout of Spidey unmasking being a major one.

[Rammsteinmad]

So early screenings or whatever of this have been getting amazing reviews, with a lot of praise going to Spider-Man's portrayal. Can't remember if it was by critics or Marvel fans in particular though, but either way it just adds to my excitement.

Source: some article I read. Can't remember where and too lazy to look for it.

[Wishbone]

Yeah, heard that too. Not that I doubted Marvel for a second. I mean the idea of an actually bad Marvel movie is pretty much an alien concept at this point.

DC fanboys are gonna be shitting all over it though just in retaliation for Batman v Superman lol.

[Crimson]

Poor DC , wonder when their first good movie will be?

[Shadow]

Yeah, heard that too. Not that I doubted Marvel for a second. I mean the idea of an actually bad Marvel movie is pretty much an alien concept at this point.

DC fanboys are gonna be shitting all over it though just in retaliation for Batman v Superman lol.

A bad Marvel movie is still miles above anything DC puts out.

[Wishbone]

A bad Marvel movie is still miles above anything DC puts out.

That's the thing, Marvel really hasn't ever put out a bad movie to begin with. Even the "worst" of Marvel's movies have still been well structured, good movies. They just weren't up to par compared to the other Marvel movies. So, yeah, basically what I'm saying is that Marvel seems incapable of making truly bad movies at this point. It's like instead of bad/good/great Marvel movies have got good/great/greater.

[alvarado52]

The great thing about the Marvel flicks is they all offer something different.

Cap is very spy thriller/political

Ant-Man was a great heist comedy

Guardians obviously was awesome sci-fi

etc.

[Kalyx triaD]

The lowest tier MCU movie to me was Incredible Hulk and that was still on point. They made Ant-Man fun.

They shit gold. The only way for DC to compete is to let Bruce Timm or Greg Bertanelli (CWverse) run their movie universe. Zack Snyder is to polarizing to handle a movie universe that is contingent on going on forward.

[Ruien]

Really hope they don't take the CWvese people away. Those television shows are way to good to lose.

[alvarado52]

For the life of me I have no idea why WB/DC doesnt build on what they already have succeeded on in the Arrow/Flash/Nolanverse characters and rolling them into the flicks.

I'll say the same about the MCU as well for that matter...at this point, if Daredevil and Punisher dont make it onto the big screen in supporting roles at some point it would be a crime.

[Destor]

For the life of me I have no idea why WB/DC doesnt build on what they already have succeeded on in the Arrow/Flash/Nolanverse characters and rolling them into the flicks.

I'll say the same about the MCU as well for that matter...at this point, if Daredevil and Punisher dont make it onto the big screen in supporting roles at some point it would be a crime.

I dunno i really enjoy the idea that the street level heros dont overlap with the main MCU. The actions of the Mcu are on a large scale and effect the lives of street level heros, but not the other way around. I feel like its more natural that way.

...spidey being the exception

[Ruien]

Feel like Daredevil and such are second tier heroes. He would be way out of his league/element in a Avengers movie.

[Fignuts]

I fully believe that they will have cameos in Infinity war at some point. Fighting Thanos' minions on the street while the avengers take on the bigger threats.

Just like a 10 second sequence or something. Nothing wrong with that imo.

[Wishbone]

I fully believe that they will have cameos in Infinity war at some point. Fighting Thanos' minions on the street while the avengers take on the bigger threats.

Just like a 10 second sequence or something. Nothing wrong with that imo.

This is probably the most likely scenario. If they're gonna reach the large number of heroes they've said are gonna be in Infinity War they pretty much have to bring them in, even if it's just for a small cameo.

[Rammsteinmad]

The street-level heroes could easily fill out the role of trying to retrieve something, a weapon or something that will help the big heroes.

[Kalyx triaD]

DD's just as much Avengers material as at the very least Widow or Clint, both of whom I know he could beat in a fight.

[Fignuts]

As far as ability goes, yeah, but as a character, he's not a great fit. Daredevil works so much better as a solo hero.

Even Cage and Iron Fist only really worked in the more grounded New Avengers.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's the guys who wanna be solo that make the best team dynamics.

[Shadow]

Anyone see the extended clip of Scott Lang meeting Cap for the first time? It's like Coulson turned up to 11.

[Rammsteinmad]

Of course! :D

[Rammsteinmad]

More reviews coming out for this film, nothing but absolute praise at the moment. Dunno if these are Marvel fan-boys, critics, casual movie-goers that got lucky, but it's getting me more and more pumped. Early indications that this is gonna be the best movie Marvel have released to date.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm done. I'm going dark. No more clips, no more early reviews. My body is ready. Now I wait.

[Nicky Fives]

My g/f was a fan and got me into the movies, previously I had only seen the first Iron Man.... binge watched all the previous in the marvel universe chronologically in preparations for Civil War....

[Shadow]

Sneak peeks have been shown to select theaters and from them I can safely say that Civil War is gonna hurt. Can't wait.

[XL]

Just watched it. Epic. Amazing. Maybe the best outing yet.

[Fignuts]

I would go so far as to say this is the best superhero movie ever. At the very least, it's my personal favorite.

[XL]

I'd probably agree. I've waited a few days to let it all settle in (and so not to spoil before the US release) but it's very difficult to find much fault with the film.

The central conflict between Cap and Tony is very well established; Tony's PTSD from IM3 and his sense of responsibility over Ultron leave us with a very self-aware, reflective Iron Man who knows that he at least needs to be put on a leash. Meanwhile Cap, having seen SHIELD levelled by the cancerous Hydra, is far more cautious of any element of control. Their motivations and characteristics play very well off of each other and drive the plot forward.

Black Panther and Winter Soldier as somewhat of a Wild Card element in the central conflict plays out very nicely, leading to the idea that the events of the film could have been avoided if they'd all just sat down and talked it through. But that would have been boring.

The villain - often Marvel's Achilles Heel - is very understated here which is quite refreshing. He's not focused on world domination/obliteration, it's a very personal, very focused assault on the Avengers.

The final confrontation is again very understated; no set piece in the sky here, just a very intense Triple Threat that's keeps you on the edge of your seat. Action packed and emotional.

Perhaps the best part of the film is the Battle Royal at the airport. All of the heroes get a chance to shine here with each using their skill/power to full effect. Ok, Ant-Man and Spidey feel a little bit tacked on but shit it/they are so much fun I'm willing to forgive. Plus, who wouldn't want a Giant Mant/Goliath appearance!?

Fantastic movie. Can't wait for the BluRay.

[road doggy dogg]

Movie was v fun and good. Felt really really long though, but there's so much content you can't really get around that.

War Hammer felt like a bit of a jobber this movie, he's one of my favs :'(

[Rammsteinmad]

A couple of comments I saw on the IMDB message board that I approve of;

"Tony Stank" was probably the best Stan Lee cameo yet.

Falcon, Antman and Bucky need to have a buddy movie.

[road doggy dogg]

oh I almost forgot, 'ell yeah @ Dean Pelton making an appearance

[Fignuts]

Falcon was badass. Falcon has never been badass.

[Ruien]

Lol at Spider saying you have the right to remain silent during the fight. Can't wait to see his movie now.

[Ruien]

Some toddler made the most comedic saying in the movie. When Cap and Bucky were going after the scientist and Iron Man was opening the door behind them. When they showed it was Iron Man the little kid screa med with joy "Iron Man!". Little kids rock. He was so Team Iron Man.

[GD]

I see great potential in the new Spider Man. Also, great choice for Aunt May :love:

[GD]

I love how the movie is ridiculously different than the comic books.

[Simple Fan]

Thought it was ok. Had a plot similar to Batman vs Superman. Evil guy plots to have superheroes fight one another. Zemo wasn't Zemo but I suppose that could happenin a later movie. Really wish Iron Patriot would have died though. Best Spiderman there has been so I'm looking forward to his movie. 7/10

[Sixx]

Thought it was ok. Had a plot similar to Batman vs Superman. Evil guy plots to have superheroes fight one another. Zemo wasn't Zemo but I suppose that could happenin a later movie. Really wish Iron Patriot would have died though. Best Spiderman there has been so I'm looking forward to his movie. 7/10

From what they've said they don't plan on giving Zemo his pink tablecloth.

Also, Aunt May was already in this one?

Very odd casting, seeing how even when Peter was a teenager she was already old as coal.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah very odd Aunt May but I like it.

[Destor]

Couldn't have been happier with this.

[Sixx]

So, noone dies? I mean the superheroes.

Teasing a major death so much and then nothing. Eeeh.

[Lock Jaw]

Just got back from this.... pretty good movie. Definitely did a better job at balancing the mass amount of characters, while still generally being Captain America focused.

Lots of good action sequences and fun. Airport scene had me smiling like the first Avengers movie did.

Still not as good as Winter Soldier, but it was good....

Definitely "sets up a whole lot" for the future, but not in the "hey we need to set all this stuff up" kind of way, if you know what I mean....

[Lock Jaw]

oh I almost forgot, 'ell yeah @ Dean Pelton making an appearance

Laughed at that as well.... was like when Abed showed up in the last movie....

[Destor]

Emphatic statement: Best Spider-man yet

[Shadow]

God this movie just had everything. A great intro to Black Panther, a perfect Spider-Man, a conflict that isn't as stupid as killing most of the New Warriors and locking Speedball in an iron maiden costume, and most of all, a great fight scene. I really enjoyed the hell out of every bit of this movie and can't wait to see where they go from here.

[Lock Jaw]

Also, once again, I am left really wanting a solo Black Widow movie.

[Destor]

Also, once again, I am left really wanting a solo Black Widow movie.

I want a black widow hawkeye team up flick. CALL IT DARTS AND ARROWS (eye keed)

mostly

[Lock Jaw]

Or a Winter Soldier/Black Widow team up flick where they destroy Russia.

[Destor]

Id watch the hell out of that

[GD]

I want a black widow hawkeye team up flick. CALL IT DARTS AND ARROWS (eye keed)

mostly

A possible infidelity angle. Or a "Freaks or Geeks" crossover. Dunno...

[slik]

I really liked it.

Falcon was great in this and I loved the new Spidey. Really looking forward to the new Spider-Man film now. I thought the movie was slow in the start but once it got going was pretty terrific. Both Tony and Cap's reasoning makes sense. Lots of characters and conflict in this film. I really liked that the villain was more cerebral this time too. Daniel Bruhl who played Zemo is a good actor I've been a fan of ever since I saw the movie "Good Bye, Lenin!". I think we'll see Zemo again.

[McLegend]

Somebody pick up the phone

Random speculation from myself about that plot.

Captain America and Tony Stark aren't fighting each other because of the super hero registration act... They are fighting each other because Stark wants to kill The Winter Solider because the Winter Solider killed his Father, and Captain America obviously does not want Stark to kill the Winter Solider.


I think I'm on the money with this one.spoiler]

Because I fuckin called it.

[McLegend]

Also I'm going to make an empathetic statement...

I think Zemo is the one the best marvel movie villian yet. Loved how you thought it was like a world domination plot like any other movie, but then nope he was just normal dude who wanted revenge.

Great idea, and I think he's better then the real Zemo.

[Destor]

Somebody pick up the phone



Because I fuckin called it.spoiler tags

Also I'm going to make an empathetic statement...

I think Zemo is the one the best marvel movie villian yet. Loved how you thought it was like a world domination plot like any other movie, but then nope he was just normal dude who wanted revenge.

Great idea, and I think he's better then the real Zemo.i really agree. Nemo was very human. I felt like this whole movie, while very dark (despite on all audience tone,) told the most personal stories we've seen out of any superhero movie to date.

[Shadow]

......McLegend you are a dumb fuck. Everyone fucking called that when Winter Soldier came out and Hydra was revealed to be inside of SHIELD

[Sixx]

Also, they ARE fighting eachother because of the Registration Act or Sokovia Accords if you will.

And the fact Bucky killed Tony's parents was not only in the comic books (some versions at least) but it was like one the very first spoilers about this movie.

[McLegend]

......McLegend you are a dumb fuck. Everyone fucking called that when Winter Soldier came out and Hydra was revealed to be inside of SHIELD

No one called in the thread.

I win.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Saw this last night. No need to restate everything's that's been said from a narrative and characterization standpoint. Had a blast watching and am glad I didn't wait to see it.

Black Panther and Spider-Man stole the show for me.

8/10

[Lock Jaw]

I guess I'm the only guy not "going crazy" over Spider-Man.... Feel like he has "potential", but just based on this movie he isn't better than the other two there have been. I don't actually know if people are saying he is better, but they are saying he was "great" and stuff, to which I am like "he was alright".

[Sixx]

I guess I'm the only guy not "going crazy" over Spider-Man.... Feel like he has "potential", but just based on this movie he isn't better than the other two there have been. I don't actually know if people are saying he is better, but they are saying he was "great" and stuff, to which I am like "he was alright".

Yes, people ARE saying that he is better than the other two and I agree.

Mind you, I haven't seen the movie yet, only parts. Not only is the suit awesome, he really IS Peter Parker, a dorky teenager making quips in the middle of fights and being starstruck seeing all the superheroes and whatnot. Just being a teenager.

The other two, well, their jokes felt really forced, they spent way too much time being overdramatic and didn't feel like Parker at all.

[Lock Jaw]

I respect your opinion and will forgo having to fight you to the death.