View Full Version : Destination America picks up Ring Of Honor starting 6/3
Innovator
05-27-2015, 01:54 PM
TIME TO NATIONALLY MAN UP BOI
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Evil Vito
05-27-2015, 01:56 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Would be thrilled with this news if I got Destination America</font>
Heisenberg
05-27-2015, 01:57 PM
I'll watch if Lethal is a cog in their wheel
Innovator
05-27-2015, 01:59 PM
Lethal is pretty much their #1 heel, current TV champion.
road doggy dogg
05-27-2015, 02:02 PM
RoH just suplexed TNA in the balls
that makes sense
Dukelorange
05-27-2015, 02:04 PM
1. Gina is sexy....
2. TNA is up the creek without... Anything....
3. ROH needs to expand the roster if they want to really get going... Adding in something to set them apart would work.
erickman
05-27-2015, 02:28 PM
I am glad I still have dest America, but if they could not handle tna what will they do with roh
Ruien
05-27-2015, 02:35 PM
Wasn't TNA moved to Wednesday?
Ruien
05-27-2015, 02:36 PM
Maybe Destination America just wants to become a wrestling station :-\
Anybody Thrilla
05-27-2015, 02:37 PM
So will I not be getting ROH anymore on the station I have been?
Big Vic
05-27-2015, 02:43 PM
So will I not be getting ROH anymore on the station I have been?
I used to get ROH until I got FiOS.... I found out sunday, I get destination america.... might watch TNA tonight if its on just to see how bad it is.
erickman
05-27-2015, 02:51 PM
Wasn't TNA moved to Wednesday?
yeah tna moves to wed the same night roh comes in june 3rd. we might have been worked tna and roh might have joined forces.
Bad News Gertner
05-27-2015, 02:58 PM
Lol not only did TNA get cheated on, they also have to share their home with the mistress.
Big Vic
05-27-2015, 03:16 PM
hopefully DA only advertises ROH as "The 'Top Brand' in wrestling"
DAMN iNATOR
05-27-2015, 03:23 PM
#LOLROH
Theo Dious
05-27-2015, 03:24 PM
lol TNA is so fucked.
Dark One
05-27-2015, 04:22 PM
This was not something I had expected.
The drama sure is delicious though. Currently feasting on MVP's tweets.
erickman
05-27-2015, 04:33 PM
tazs podcast is up
Shisen Kopf
05-27-2015, 04:35 PM
Can't wait until they merge. Total Nonstop Honor. All workrate all the time!
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 04:41 PM
So will I not be getting ROH anymore on the station I have been?
I would assume yes since they are owned by Sinclair. It might be a new show concept or something.
Seth82
05-27-2015, 04:44 PM
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SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 04:46 PM
Seth for the win
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 04:51 PM
So will I not be getting ROH anymore on the station I have been?
(The Fink is being hearing something in his ear piece)
Fink: Ladies and gentleman, I have just been informed that the episodes Anybody Thrilla watches will be re-broadcasted for anybody without Sinclair. Sinclair will air the episodes on the weekend and they will be put on Wednesday Nights on Destination America!
If you have both Sinclair and Destination America you can do ROH a favor and watch both broadcasts for ratings even though they will be the same.
ClockShot
05-27-2015, 05:12 PM
So TNA totally got burned............big time.
While the Destination America team is with TNA to help close out, they were busy behind the scenes pouring gasoline and lighting a match.
Always been interested in Ring of Honor. Let's hope it lives up to the hype on TV.
#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 05:26 PM
So fucking confused on this whole situation.
So... the rumors of TNA being cancelled haven't actually been confirmed, right? And ROH is going to be the lead-in to TNA. If anything, this seems to be a sign that TNA HASN'T been cancelled. It would be silly of them to cancel it so quickly just to add a less popular wrestling show to the schedule. So why is this such bad news for TNA? What have I missed over the past week or so?
Savio
05-27-2015, 05:27 PM
ROH is decent, I saw a few episodes when they were wrapping up the SCUM storyline.
Ruien
05-27-2015, 05:51 PM
So fucking confused on this whole situation.
So... the rumors of TNA being cancelled haven't actually been confirmed, right? And ROH is going to be the lead-in to TNA. If anything, this seems to be a sign that TNA HASN'T been cancelled. It would be silly of them to cancel it so quickly just to add a less popular wrestling show to the schedule. So why is this such bad news for TNA? What have I missed over the past week or so?
They are going to air ROH and TNA at the same time on the same day? o.O
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 05:53 PM
TNA's slot is/was going to be 9-11 correct?
#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 05:54 PM
Yeah. ROH will be on at 8 and TNA at 9.
Ruien
05-27-2015, 05:59 PM
I stand corrected. Do more people watch television at 8-9 rather than 10-11? Seems like ROH would get the shitty time slot.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 05:59 PM
Looks like they might be trying to compete with WWE with a 3 hour block? Or are they just having TNA boost ROH for a short time before dropping TNA? They don't even have to do any of the production costs of ROH since its going to be a re-broadcast.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 06:00 PM
MVP just tweeted his booking information.
Emperor Smeat
05-27-2015, 06:04 PM
Unless they suddenly drop the other network, ROH is going to be on two networks where I live (NESN and DA).
Wonder how much TNA regrets having Dixie in charge. Kept pissing off the network with the constant ratings arguing and then pulled a "Russo" with being unable to send an email correctly. Even when DA were happy with ratings, she kept arguing saying their numbers were wrong.
#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 06:05 PM
MVP just tweeted his booking information.
All I'm seeing on his Twitter is a shitload of tweets about VHS tapes.
Is MVP Shisen?
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 06:10 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yeah so ummm...
PROMOTERS!
BOOKMVPNOW@GMAIL.COM</p>— MVP (@The305MVP) <a href="https://twitter.com/The305MVP/status/603622236424044545">May 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 06:10 PM
Maybe he is.
#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 06:22 PM
Apparently ROH will be moving their PPVs to Fridays so that both the Saturday airing and the Wednesday Destination American airing are out of the way before a PPV.
Shisen Kopf
05-27-2015, 06:28 PM
All I'm seeing on his Twitter is a shitload of tweets about VHS tapes.
Is MVP Shisen?
He is a true legend
Simple Fan
05-27-2015, 07:18 PM
Seems cool I guess, innovative from a TV channel stand point to have two different wrestling companys on your channel. ROH comes on the FOX affiliate on the weekends here, they have one Saturday and replay it Sunday at midnight. I get DA to so will probably watch it when it airs on it.
Someone give Jeff Jarrett DA number.
SlickyTrickyDamon
05-27-2015, 07:23 PM
Nah GFW seems like they'd have to give too much revenue to produce a television show. They are being handed a show to put on their station.
Black Widow
05-27-2015, 07:33 PM
Is Roh any better than TNA?
Emperor Smeat
05-27-2015, 07:55 PM
Apparently nobody at TNA was even aware of Destination America being in talks with ROH assuming its not another case of TNA management hiding info from staff and wrestler again.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At no time was TNA talent (that I'm aware of) notified of ROH airing on <a href="https://twitter.com/DestAmerica">@DestAmerica</a> . I'll refrain from commenting until after "the call".</p>— MVP (@The305MVP) <a href="https://twitter.com/The305MVP/status/603620847824162816">May 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Probably the biggest sign Destination America got ROH solely to replace TNA in a few months came from their press release which made no mentions of TNA at all.
Destination America is the only network to celebrate the people, places, and stories of the United States. The inclusive network targeting Adults 25-54 is available in more than 57 million homes, emblazoning television screens with the grit and tenacity, honesty and work ethic, humor and adventurousness that characterize our nation. Destination America features travel, food, adventure, home, and natural history, with original series like BBQ Pitmasters; A Haunting; Mountain Monsters; Buying Alaska; Buying the Bayou; and Railroad Alaska. For more information, please visit DestinationAmerica.com, facebook.com/DestinationAmerica, or twitter.com/DestAmerica.
Dark One
05-27-2015, 08:37 PM
Now that I'm not sitting in a waiting room:
There's definitely something fishy about this and/or the news over the past week or so about TNA.
Wasn't one of the primary "reasons" for Destination America--at least as far as the DIRT SHEETZ go--canceling TNA due to advertisers not wanting anything to do with a wrestling product? Even if that isn't the case, it seems very strange to double down on wrestling when they obviously haven't been a big fan of the way TNA has performed lately. I get that RoH is a "different" product, but would TV executives really pick up on that?
Savio
05-27-2015, 09:19 PM
Destination America to pick up Raw rebroadcasts 6/2/2015
Savio
05-27-2015, 09:22 PM
Is Roh any better than TNA?
Yes TNA is comically bad..... WWE is comically bad too, but with well known stars.
ROH is pretty much just average wrestling.
Emperor Smeat
05-27-2015, 09:23 PM
Now that I'm not sitting in a waiting room:
There's definitely something fishy about this and/or the news over the past week or so about TNA.
Wasn't one of the primary "reasons" for Destination America--at least as far as the DIRT SHEETZ go--canceling TNA due to advertisers not wanting anything to do with a wrestling product? Even if that isn't the case, it seems very strange to double down on wrestling when they obviously haven't been a big fan of the way TNA has performed lately. I get that RoH is a "different" product, but would TV executives really pick up on that?
The current speculation is Destination America was coming no where close to recouping the money spent so far on TNA. Combined with Dixie supposedly being a huge pain to deal with, that relationship soured well before the opt-out deadline. Ratings-wise its either their highest or one of their highest but had with no real revenue coming in, DA was spending more than gaining with the weekly TNA shows.
Also been speculated the ROH likely is way cheaper for DA since Sinclair probably is handling all the real costs so even with low ad money and/or ratings, it won't be as big of a drain that TNA is.
Tom Guycott
05-27-2015, 09:57 PM
This sitch does kinda have the smell of "We'll replace ECW with WWE" about it. If they go balls out promoting ROH, we'll see how accurate that comparison is.
Droford
05-27-2015, 10:02 PM
I really enjoyed the first night War of the Worlds up in philly. Probably the best 3 hours of wrestling Ive seen live. Not sure how much of the credit goes to ROH for that though.
Also, I fucking demand a Briscoes reality show show on their farm since I live like 15 minutes away. They have to do it..it's the most fucking obvious thing ever.
Simple Fan
05-27-2015, 10:04 PM
I like that ROH is staying the same and not changing anything. This might get TNA to step up their game considering they will be following a solid hour of wrestling. TNA management is so bad though, I don't see anything good coming.
I can just imagine how mad Dixie is after the ROH announcement, can TNA opt out of thier deal, because i can see Dixie doing somthing like that.
Innovator
05-27-2015, 10:17 PM
The cross over appeal between Jay Briscoe and Swamp Monsters is tremendous
Droford
05-27-2015, 10:25 PM
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Droford
05-27-2015, 10:28 PM
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#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 10:46 PM
Yes TNA is comically bad..... WWE is comically bad too, but with well known stars.
ROH is pretty much just average wrestling.
I wouldn't even call TNA comically bad from an on-screen standpoint. The management might be inept but when I watch it, they have good stories and interesting shit going on from start to finish. No filler. They just lack consistency and they don't have the stars to build an audience. Wrestling just isn't hot enough anymore for people to care about anything other than WWE. But if you switched WWE's writing and TNA's writing, WWE would be WAY fucking better and TNA would have been out of business years ago.
Savio
05-27-2015, 11:03 PM
TNA seems like they lack focus and rip off WWE a lot.
#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 11:09 PM
They have the same problem as WWE when it comes to the inability to consistently push guys to become stars. WWE can survive that issue for the time being though because they already have big stars. TNA doesn't have that luxury.
Simple Fan
05-27-2015, 11:25 PM
TNA has done an exceptional job with EC3. They had a chance with Magnus but kinda screwed up with him. They have a good young crop of talent that if pushed and presented the right way could be stars. Hope they stay on DA and maybe even work out a deal with ROH to do a few supershows with one another on DA.
Savio
05-27-2015, 11:26 PM
They have the same problem as WWE when it comes to the inability to consistently push guys to become stars. WWE can survive that issue for the time being though because they already have big stars. TNA doesn't have that luxury.
Lol that's what I said though.
#1-norm-fan
05-27-2015, 11:33 PM
I know. I agree. I was elaborating on it.
Emperor Smeat
05-27-2015, 11:39 PM
Supposedly TNA could have blocked Destination America from getting ROH or any wrestling shows while TNA was around had the company Dixie hired to get a new tv deal included the clause.
UTA (company hired by Dixie) didn't think it was necessary for TNA to have a special clause while saw no problem with Destination America having an opt out clause since its very common in tv deals. UTA and TNA probably didn't think Destination America would actually use it since the deal was very short.
Droford
05-27-2015, 11:43 PM
Was going to set it to record but it still says to be announced
#1-norm-fan
05-28-2015, 12:58 AM
TNA has done an exceptional job with EC3. They had a chance with Magnus but kinda screwed up with him. They have a good young crop of talent that if pushed and presented the right way could be stars. Hope they stay on DA and maybe even work out a deal with ROH to do a few supershows with one another on DA.
Mr. Anderson was their biggest fuckup. He was WWE's "next big thing" until the whole Orton thing. He should have been built as the face of the company this whole time.
Also, ruining the good thing they built with Samoa Joe in the early days of the company by not continuing to book him as a force and giving him the WWE "monster, jobber, monster, jobber, monster, jobber" treatment didn't help.
Simple Fan
05-28-2015, 01:05 AM
Yeah its a shame Joe didn't have more runs with the heavyweight title. Its going to be funny if Joe gets to do ROH tapings on DA.
rockman725
05-28-2015, 01:27 AM
This sitch does kinda have the smell of "We'll replace ECW with WWE" about it. If they go balls out promoting ROH, we'll see how accurate that comparison is.
When I first read the news today, I immediately thought of this. Destination America basically just pulled a TNN.
If we are to believe Heyman to be true and that ECW never would have folded if they were able to negotiate with other networks, than you can pretty much kiss TNA goodbye. Here's the problem. No major network is going to negotiate with a company that got put on the chopping block by their previous suitor. If the network feels they will loose revenue or heck even break even on the investment, they won't commit. If Destination America is indeed cancelling TNA due to what their "leaked" statement says, TNA is history. Their only shot at getting back on TV is on a low budget network/local station.
Not like I really care about TNA anyway.
Lock Jaw
05-28-2015, 02:22 AM
I thought the whole rumours with them cancelling TNA was something about their advertisers not wanting anything to do with wrestling? So why would they add more wrestling?
Emperor Smeat
05-28-2015, 02:28 AM
TNA managed to end up on a general Do Not Advertise list that ad sponsors like to use. Supposedly TNA either doesn't have sponsors on their own like the WWE or whatever they were paying wasn't enough to offset what DA was losing.
Going to assume ROH is bringing whatever sponsors are associated with Sinclair for their spot on the network to cover any possible ad losses.
Two weeks ago, the Discovery Network sent out a memo stating: "Destination America is not renewing TNA Wrestling next year. While the ratings were strong, the audience was not large enough to justify the program investment. We plan to honor the current contract and continue to air original episodes of TNA Wrestling on Friday nights through the end of the third quarter 2015. When the up-front rate card is released, the Friday night anthology title will now be called 'American Tales,' which will be a combination of Paranormal and Americana programming. I hope this is good news given all of the advertisers that included TNA on their DNA list."
The DNA list is for when advertisers buy time on the station as a whole instead of just a specific show, the DNA, or Do Not Advertise list, is something sponsors list for shows they specifically don't want their ads on.
From the internal memo by DA that got leaked recently.
So fucking confused on this whole situation.
So... the rumors of TNA being cancelled haven't actually been confirmed, right? And ROH is going to be the lead-in to TNA. If anything, this seems to be a sign that TNA HASN'T been cancelled. It would be silly of them to cancel it so quickly just to add a less popular wrestling show to the schedule. So why is this such bad news for TNA? What have I missed over the past week or so?
Yep, they're confirmed as of now - they have until September to change DA's mind. Plan is to use TNA's audience to boost ROH numbers to the same level so they can get the same ratings and same low ad rates without paying out the ass for them.
Damian Rey
05-28-2015, 04:04 AM
Brilliant move by DA really. It's a low risk, high reward for them. If they can keep TNA's audience and get them to watch ROH instead, then great. If not, they cut ties without having to worry about losing whatever they invested in TNA. Win win for them and a great venue for future exposure for ROH.
Time to pack it in TNA. Bring back Angle.
Mr. Nerfect
05-28-2015, 07:02 AM
This is really interesting. This move definitely helps ROH, but it could also potentially help TNA. A lot of TNA talent would do really well in a ROH crossover scenario; but I'm not sure the same can be said for a lot of TNA talent.
Dukelorange
05-28-2015, 08:00 AM
DA is playing with house money here....
I remember when I was younger that I would watch two hours of wrestling on Saturdays. WCW went on first and then WWE. They could be trying to,do the same thing, but better... Even HHH said three hours of RAW is over kill. One hour of ROH followed by two hours of TNA looks a little more palatable.
DAMN iNATOR
05-28-2015, 09:40 AM
Yeah its a shame Joe didn't have more runs with the heavyweight title. Its going to be funny if Joe gets to do ROH tapings on DA.
"WHAT THE HELL IS THE NEW NXT CHAMPION DOING IN ROH?!"
Shisen Kopf
05-28-2015, 09:42 AM
Prob just a matter of time before we see #HABM on Destination America.
Innovator
05-28-2015, 10:26 AM
DA is playing with house money here....
I remember when I was younger that I would watch two hours of wrestling on Saturdays. WCW went on first and then WWE. They could be trying to,do the same thing, but better... Even HHH said three hours of RAW is over kill. One hour of ROH followed by two hours of TNA looks a little more palatable.
One of those hours of ROH will feature Mr. Shinsuke Nakamura. That's just not fair to TNA.
Dukelorange
05-28-2015, 10:33 AM
One of those hours of ROH will feature Mr. Shinsuke Nakamura. That's just not fair to TNA.
Never seen him... This looks like a job for YouTube and Dailymotion.
Wait, I'm hearing now that TNA may stay on Friday and ROH will be on Wednesday.
It doesn't matter because I'll be watching NXT anyway.
Ruien
05-28-2015, 11:18 AM
According to the TPWW.net front page it was officially announced TNA will be done with DA on the last week of September.
It is sad that a lot of people working for TNA will lose their jobs. Is weekly television exposure necessary for wrestlers in this day and age?
Big Vic
05-28-2015, 12:14 PM
If only there was another wrestling program on DA they could go to.
ROH's production quality isn't as good as TNA. The casual fan might consider it as a step down for the wrestlers.
Remember how things went when that Canadian dude got drafted to ECW? He didn't even show up to the title match. I mean, what was he thinking?
Droford
05-28-2015, 03:26 PM
I can remember when ROH was on HDnet
Mr. Nerfect
05-28-2015, 10:42 PM
If TNA folds, between ROH, GFW and, yes, even NXT, there are plenty of places for them stateside to find work and expand their skills. Probably even make more money. And that's not even counting Japan, Lucha Underground (filmed in the USA, yes), Mexico, England and other places.
Lock Jaw
05-28-2015, 11:48 PM
Somebody think of the production crew
loopydate
05-28-2015, 11:51 PM
Somebody think of the production crew
You mean the people that work for months without getting paid? I think TNA folding would be the best thing for them.
Simple Fan
05-29-2015, 06:46 PM
Hope this prompts ROH into filming in some bigger venues. Not WWE big but at least when they film try to do it in a decent looking arena, Feel like ROH could draw bigger arenas.
Simple Fan
05-31-2015, 03:47 PM
Is anyone who doesn't get ROH on syndication going to be watching on Destination America ? I have it recorded from this weekend but might wait to watch it Wednesday. NXT, ROH, and TNA all on one night. Wresting Wednesday.
Droford
05-31-2015, 03:53 PM
I don't get it on the weekends so I'll be watching, probably the replay though
erickman
05-31-2015, 04:15 PM
Is anyone who doesn't get ROH on syndication going to be watching on Destination America ? I have it recorded from this weekend but might wait to watch it Wednesday. NXT, ROH, and TNA all on one night. Wresting Wednesday.
wouldn't it be smarter for them to do the 1st runs on weds and do the repeats on weekends, it sounds like Wednesday will be the big wrestling night now, so roh better put there best stuff on then.
Evil Vito
05-31-2015, 04:35 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Would be thrilled with this news if I got Destination America</font>
<font color=goldenrod>Oh shit, apparently I DO get it now. ROH is on at 8, followed by TNA at 9 and a ROH replay at 11.
So I could watch NXT at 8, TNA at 9, and then ROH at 11. Actually might watch ROH at 8 since I could just fire up NXT as soon as I get bored of TNA.</font>
Dark One
05-31-2015, 05:32 PM
Destination America: Fuck it.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In breaking satirical news: Raw moving to Destination America <a href="http://t.co/8iRd3UTPhB">http://t.co/8iRd3UTPhB</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews">@kayfabenews</a></p>— Destination America (@DestAmerica) <a href="https://twitter.com/DestAmerica/status/603924367588913152">May 28, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Ruien
05-31-2015, 06:41 PM
lol
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