WWE RAW 6/1 Feat. A Lunatic champion, Ryback eating the IC belt, and a New Day of the KO Era

[Dark One]

Can't wait for Cesaro to pull Twin Magic with Big Show.

[Tom Guycott]

This would be an opportune time for Chioda to ask Paige if she quits.

Only if Nikki kept screaming "ASK HER!"

[Bad News Gertner]

I COME TO YOU FROM THE FUTURE.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/11/1-shellshock.gif

It thatisn't a better example of how Ryback was wsted I don't know what is.

Besides losing to Henry at Wrestlemania.

[KIRA]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh cool...another recap. These constant recaps just reinforce that WWE doesn't think that many people actually watch all 3 hours of their show.</font>

3 hrs is asking alot of both the arena crowd and the at home audience.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Loved when the World's Greatest Tag Team were in their obnoxious, overly-cocky heel stage in 2004 post-Angle and they basically attempted a Twin Magic-esque move assuming the refs wouldn't notice.</font>

[Lock Jaw]

Brie needs to eat a sandwich.... grossed out @ seeing her spine....

[Tom Guycott]

Can't wait for Cesaro to pull Twin Magic with Big Show.

Or Christian to do Twin Magic with the new Hamburglar, who would then also pull the switch with Cesaro.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That Twin Magic shit was absolutely tripe. They don't even look alike now. Their attire didn't even match perfectly. Mike Chiota should be investigated for that one. I hope it is revealed that he got in a hot tub with them next week.

Also, lol at the constant face/heel dynamic shifts The Bellas undergo.

[Dark One]

Or Christian to do Twin Magic with the new Hamburglar, who would then also pull the switch with Cesaro.


That would be impossible. Cesaro is the Hamburglar. Saying he isn't is exactly what the Hamburglar would say.

[Lock Jaw]

http://i.imgur.com/ZvkWS7W.gif (http://wrestlingwithtext.com/my-brief-and-uninsightful-recap/wwt-live-short-wwe-raw-june-1st-2015)

Viewing this gif to Sheamus theme

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm not into Orton vs. Sheamus as a match concept. I hope Orton being a face now makes it a lot fresher.

[Tom Guycott]

Its that one pic. There was another one and he looks suspiciously like Captain Charisma.

[Tom Guycott]

http://i.imgur.com/ZvkWS7W.gif (http://wrestlingwithtext.com/my-brief-and-uninsightful-recap/wwt-live-short-wwe-raw-june-1st-2015)

Viewing this gif to Sheamus theme

<s> Guile's </s>Sheamus' theme goes with everything

[DAMN iNATOR]

Did I just hear JBL make a Land of the Lost reference about Sheamus' hair?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I really hope none of the gals in NXT get called up. Sorry...I know that's probably a shit thing to say given that it's their goal, but they're just going to be lost in the shuffle and the inane storylines like the rest.

The main roster divas division will continue to flounder until Vince is no longer running the show.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

<font color=goldenrod>I really hope none of the gals in NXT get called up. Sorry...I know that's probably a shit thing to say given that it's their goal, but they're just going to be lost in the shuffle and the inane storylines like the rest.

The main roster divas division will continue to flounder until Vince is no longer running the show.</font>

They may have no other choice but to call up at least a couple of them if the Bellas are still considering leaving...

[Lock Jaw]

http://i.imgur.com/ZvkWS7W.gif (http://wrestlingwithtext.com/my-brief-and-uninsightful-recap/wwt-live-short-wwe-raw-june-1st-2015)

Viewing this gif to Sheamus theme

Viewing this gif to Becky Lynch theme instead of watching this match

[Tom Guycott]

That would be impossible. Cesaro is the Hamburglar. Saying he isn't is exactly what the Hamburglar would say.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03294/hamburglarchange_3294767b.jpghttp://gamesdreams.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=637&d=1338411160

[Tom Guycott]

Was looking for those pics specifically instead of watching this match.

[Frank Drebin]

Glad to see he landed on his feet

[Dark One]

http://i.imgur.com/ZvkWS7W.gif (http://wrestlingwithtext.com/my-brief-and-uninsightful-recap/wwt-live-short-wwe-raw-june-1st-2015)

Viewing this gif to Sheamus theme

Try it with this:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Op_opGcY9Tg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Lock Jaw]

Looks nothing like Christian

[Lock Jaw]

But thank you for posting an image of Christian in this thread. It is now the best part of RAW.

[Frank Drebin]

Could probably do an Orton match with a Michael Cole soundboard. Same 5-7 lines get delivered during every one.

[Lock Jaw]

Starving artist Rusev

[Corndad]

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52349a54e4b08b149afb55bf/t/53561a3be4b04cbb6438bdc1/1398151740116/

[Tom Guycott]

Bus riding Rusev is back

[Frank Drebin]

Will he start talking without an accent like Lana?

[Emperor Smeat]

:( poor Rusev. Lost everything and all down in the dumps.

To think a few months ago he was riding in a tank and even that's gone now.

[Frank Drebin]

RIP Rusev. Tell Crazy Edgar I say Hi

[Heisenberg]

Depressed Rusev rules

[Simple Fan]

Deep promo from Rusev

[Dark One]

Bus riding Rusev is back

http://i.imgur.com/zsEdidb.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

lol Depressed Rusev.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Actually, they really never truly turned face. They became faces by osmosis, because the other heels were bigger heels than them.

Nikki was clapping hands right before this match. They were faces.

[Frank Drebin]

After Saxton wet the bed announcing on Raw a while back, I figured he was getting fired. Surprised he's still around.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Rusev Mascha :(

[Tom Guycott]

I want to photoshop the hat, mask, and tie onto Christian now, but I don't have my pc anymore. :(

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL, Depressed Rusev is crushed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope Bo Dallas inspires Rusev to get back on the horse. Bo in Rusev's corner could be tremendous.

[DAMN iNATOR]

It's as though Rusev went from being angry Incredible Hulk to sad Incredible Hulk, only his skin isn't green.

[#1-norm-fan]

Rusev gonna come back as a sad poet.

Lana,
You broke my spirit. You broke my trust.
In the end, it was my heart that was crushed.

Thank you. And death to America.

*Incredible Hulk music plays*

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Sheamus/Orton ending makes sense, but I don't want to see a prolonged program between the two. Let them have a Street Fight on SmackDown and let that be it, please.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Rusev gonna come back as a sad poet.

Lana,
You broke my spirit. You broke my trust.
In the end, it was my heart that was crushed.

Thank you. And death to America.

Tremendous.

[Frank Drebin]

Bo always gets out of the pool just seconds before he comes out.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

https://youtu.be/pXqH5zU8paM no embed on device

[Lock Jaw]

The nude sensation

[Dark One]

http://i.imgur.com/ZvkWS7W.gif (http://wrestlingwithtext.com/my-brief-and-uninsightful-recap/wwt-live-short-wwe-raw-june-1st-2015)

Viewing this gif to Sheamus theme

Now try this one:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/26aPByJNq4E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Frank Drebin]

Calling Neville "The New Sensation"......smh......reminds me of when they tried for weeks to call Kofi "The Wildcat"

[Tom Guycott]

Nikki was clapping hands right before this match. They were faces.

I mean, they never had a "turn" moment. Brie was face, Nikki was heel. Brie joined her sister as a heel after being humiliated because... reasons... and they were both heels. The other girls acted like bigger bitches than The Bellas were acting like, so they kinda unilaterally became faces.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Booker doesnt watch NXT

[Tom Guycott]

Calling Neville "The New Sensation".......reminds me of when they tried for weeks to call Kofi "The Wildcat"

I still think it sounds like they're trying to market him as a giggolo. Or a sex toy. "The Dildo That Gravity Forgot"

Even just calling him "Sensational" Neville (sorta like "Phenomenal" AJ Styles) sounds way less forced.

[Evil Vito]

:lol: <font color=goldenrod>@ depressed Rusev</font>

[Poit]

With the greatest of ease!

[Frank Drebin]

I still think it sounds like they're trying to market him as a giggolo. Or a sex toy. "The Dildo That Gravity Forgot"

They should split your idea in two. Market him to Juggalos and turn "The Dildo That Gravity Forgot" into the next big thing from WWE Films.

[Lock Jaw]

Breins Ryatt

[Frank Drebin]

Could someone get me link to the MITB theme song lyrics?

[owenbrown]

pretty revisionist highlight video there from 2011 considering Cole was a heel then

[Tom Guycott]

Rusev gonna come back as a sad poet.

Lana,
You broke my spirit. You broke my trust.
In the end, it was my heart that was crushed.

Thank you. And death to America.

*Incredible Hulk music plays*

Exactly. With a black beret and bongos.

Then he kidnaps cole and forces him to listen to his poetry.

Heidenrape v2

[Lock Jaw]

Wish Subway wouldn't use a Christmas song in their ads in June.... we get enough of that for three months or so...

[Lock Jaw]

Where is Rollermacka's audition vid....

[Tom Guycott]

Let's see if I am going to bat a thousand...

[Lock Jaw]

I wish Teddy Long was still around so he could tell people "tonight..... you will be going.... one on one....... WIT DA BRAY WYATT"

[Dark One]

Could someone get me link to the MITB theme song lyrics?


Money.

Moneymoney moneeey.

MONEY.

Monneeey money moooneeeey.

MONEY.

Moneey money.

[Frank Drebin]

Still think its cool how the "fireflies" developed organically. People just started doing it without being told it was "the new media sensation" or some shit. Surprised WWE hasn't tried to set some sort of BS world record with it like it was rumored they wanted to do with lucha masks for a while there.

[#1-norm-fan]

Goddamn, Wyatt is just such an epic character. If only he wasn't treated as just another guy when it comes to matches.

[Tom Guycott]

I wish Teddy Long was still around so he could tell people "tonight..... you will be going.... one on one....... WIT DA BRAY WYATT"

Whaddya thinka that, playa? Holla, hollaholla

[Frank Drebin]

I want to get into Reigns, but has he done anything other than punch, kick, clothesline, superman punch, spear tonight?

[Lock Jaw]

Harper and Rowan have disappeared from TV since reuniting... should have them show up here and reunite with Bray, because why not...

[Poit]

I wish Teddy Long was still around so he could tell people "tonight..... you will be going.... one on one....... WIT DA BRAY WYATT"

Wit da new face o' fear.

[Lock Jaw]

I want to get into Reigns, but has he done anything other than punch, kick, clothesline, superman punch, spear tonight?

Dropkick

[Lock Jaw]

ARMBAR

[Poit]

ASK HIM

[Frank Drebin]

Are there any factions right now other than, like, the Authority?

[Lock Jaw]

The New Day

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Not a fan of Roman's laughing.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

yah....that doesn't really count

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Also feel like Cole has been ruining false finishes since 1999.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

SUPERMAN PUNCH.....OUTTA NOWHERE

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Wyatt jobs again. Jesus.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

fucking 2 moves.

[Lock Jaw]

RIP Bray Wyatt

[Emperor Smeat]

Is this the first time Ambrose has saved Reigns and not the other way around usually?

:lol: Rollins flew into that table

[#1-norm-fan]

Jesus Christ. I know they want Reigns to look like a beast but having Wyatt lose to a guy who has had 2 matches already tonight is just fucking retarded. The guy should be scary as shit.

[Tom Guycott]

Still think its cool how the "fireflies" developed organically. People just started doing it without being told it was "the new media sensation" or some shit. Surprised WWE hasn't tried to set some sort of BS world record with it like it was rumored they wanted to do with lucha masks for a while there.

I just don't dig the idea that this is what is most likely considered to make him face.

One thing WWE seems not to quite grasp is that some of this reaction to everyone new in the last couple of years is more the idea of finally getting to see some fresh and exciting people in the rotation as opposed to the wrestlers themselves.

Not saying Bray isn't over. And he fucking deserves to be. What I mean is- well, think about the Reigns/Bats matchup. It wasn't so much everyone was squarely behind Roman, it was more "Batista doesn't need to win here... anybody but... AW, GODDAMN IT, BATIS...


Really? What the fuck? Well, I lost my streak.

Who said they might as well just hand Reigns the briefcase now? Because they might as well just lower the damn thing now.

[Dark One]

Haha, Seth Rollins missed dive to grab Ambrose was great.

Dean Ambrose should be fake WWE Champion forever.

[Dark One]

Is this the first time Ambrose has saved Reigns and not the other way around usually?

I think so, which more than anything else really shows that they're probably taking this Ambrose push seriously.

[Dark One]

Now for the real fucking main event: PAUL HEYMAN ON THE STEVE AUSTIN PODCAST.

[Tom Guycott]

Stone Cold Podcast with Paul Heyman... what is this, like 4? 5? what else would they talk about?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>If Reigns was gonna win 3 matches in a row, why make Wyatt one of them? Just makes him look ridiculously weak even if Reigns is supposed to be Superman.</font>

[Dark One]

It's Paul Heyman. He basically cut the same promo about Brock Lesnar for most of the past year, and it was great every time.

I'm sure he'll be fine.

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>If Reigns was gonna win 3 matches in a row, why make Wyatt one of them? Just makes him look ridiculously weak even if Reigns is supposed to be Superman.</font>

Making him one of them would have been not AS bad. Making him the third one is just... what the fuck, WWE? How can they possibly wonder why they can't get anyone perpetually over anymore?

[Jazzy Foot]

Anyone got a stream for the podcast?

[Lock Jaw]

I think Bray Wyatt should recruit Depressed Rusev (DepRusev) and the two of them dominate the WWE to the chagrin of both the faces and The Authority alike.

[Tom Guycott]

Dont normally ask, but ditto

[Evil Vito]

Making him one of them would have been not AS bad. Making him the third one is just... what the fuck, WWE? How can they possibly wonder why they can't get anyone perpetually over anymore?

<font color=goldenrod>Wyatt would seem to be a guy who is a good enough talker to end up erasing all the damage that's been done with the idiotic way he's been booked for the last several months.

Shame I don't have a whole lot of faith in WWE to get to that point.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>Wyatt would seem to be a guy who is a good enough talker to end up erasing all the damage that's been done with the idiotic way he's been booked for the last several months.

Shame I don't have a whole lot of faith in WWE to get to that point.</font>

I don't know. I think being a good talker can only do so much. You can cut fucking brilliant promos all you want. Those scary, haunting, intimidating words don't carry the same weight coming from a guy who loses left and right. As many times as he's talked a big game and cut some creepy promo only to job, why would anyone not listen to him and just be like "LOL Okay, guy"?

[Dark One]

Podcast getting super awkward right now while discussing Jewish history and the Middle East. Vince McMahon probably having a stroke right now.

[Lock Jaw]

- Calls out Taker to solidify himself as the "new face of fear"
- Loses to Taker
- Doesn't even mention it, but just goes right back to mysterious promos calling himself the new face of fear.

[Evil Vito]

I don't know. I think being a good talker can only do so much. You can cut fucking brilliant promos all you want. Those scary, haunting, intimidating words don't carry the same weight coming from a guy who loses left and right. As many times as he's talked a big game and cut some creepy promo only to job, why would anyone not listen to him and just be like "LOL Okay, guy"?

<font color=goldenrod>I feel like WWE has enough lapsed viewers that would take Wyatt seriously if they just resumed watching and Wyatt was, you know, winning matches. And most of the internet community would accept it because we all want him to be taken seriously even if we know they cocked things up really badly with him earlier.

At the moment though it seems clear that WWE hasn't got a fucking clue what to do with him.</font>

[Tom Guycott]

<font color=goldenrod>Wyatt would seem to be a guy who is a good enough talker to end up erasing all the damage that's been done with the idiotic way he's been booked for the last several months.

Shame I don't have a whole lot of faith in WWE to get to that point.</font>

He might be a good enough talker, but he shouldn't have to be. Not yet.

Roman doesn't NEED money in the bank. If the endgame is for this guy to be "the man", they don't have to take the most direct route. A loss to Wyatt could have started one of those pesky moneymaking storyline devices called A GODDAMN FEUD! Waytt can talk, but that seems to be all they have him doing. Talking and losing. Nobody wants to back a constant loser, even if they're a heel. He's supposed to be "The New Face of Fear", and they book him to be just "A Minor Inconvenience". Instead of both guys getting something out of this (Reigns beats two strong competitors, but loses to Bray in what was already unfair, but against a suppsed legit threat to boot), Roman gets more poised to pick up SuperCena's cape, Bray goes back to fucking off somewhere, and Mox gets a rub by association to the golden child.

Reigns eventually winning the war could be explained away later by Bray. Right now, it would just be empty, unsatisfying words from someone who appears to not be able to get it accomplished in the ring.

[Emperor Smeat]

- Calls out Taker to solidify himself as the "new face of fear"
- Loses to Taker
- Doesn't even mention it, but just goes right back to mysterious promos calling himself the new face of fear.
Could go back to the Cena feud and find something similar with Bray's ramblings.


He's better than most of the roster with promos but Creative either ends up doing nothing to build on his promos or just have him lose critical matches making him more "bark" than "bite" with his words.

Him beating Ryback in their one match feud should have lead to him and not Big Show be Ryback's current threat for the IC title. Instead he's back to doing nothing of worthy note.

[#1-norm-fan]

Just imagine if the Daniel Bryan match at the Royal Rumble a couple years ago was designed not to get Bray over for a match with Cena... but to get Bray over... period. WWE has a knack lately for only pushing guys for their next feud. A "lower level" example would be R-Truth. He jobs constantly. Then they wanna put him in a big match and lo and behold... HE PICKS UP A WIN OR TWO! That's enough in WWE's mind to build him up as a threat in the upcoming multi-man match. Then he goes right back to jobber status. Rinse. Repeat.

Nothing is designed to get anyone over in the long run. Bray's match with Daniel Bryan should have been the start of something. Scary monster cult leader just cleanly took down your hero. Now people should start fearing him. For good. It should have been the beginning of a consistent booking pattern and not just a way to build him up for one single match in a month or two. That's not how you build stars.

[Tom Guycott]

Right.

People in the company seem to have lost the meaning of "wins and losses don't matter". Yes, they don't really count for shit in a boxer or basketball team way, but if someone loses all the fucking time, nobody wants to see them because "they suck" and if someone WINS all the fucking time, it's boring and predictable.

Again, I dont "hate" Roman, but they want him to be a world beater. Cena is a world beater, thus the backlash. Little kids that don't know better like someone who wins all the time because he wins all the time. Once that kid hits that threshold where the drama isn't there because it goes from "I hope my hero wins" to "let me guess, he wins again , right?" they kinda lose a little luster. And when the person who got beat fades into obscurity, what did you really gain?

[Dark One]

Now they're talking about cocaine.

Vince right now:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/tholzerman/vkm.jpg

[Dark One]

Average "podcast," I think, which is kind of disappointing since it was Heyman, but like mentioned earlier, it is like the fiftieth time

The end was pretty great with the tease of a Lesnar/Austin match at WM32, and Austin going full Stone Cold promo.

[James Steele]

The thought of Lesnar/Austin gives me a boner.

[Dark One]

I'm pretty sure Lesnar would legit murder him by touching him, but what a way to go.

[Droford]

So if they don't go Lesnar destroying Mr Money in the bank kofi in japan, it's kinda obvious the plan is for Roman to win and then cash in on the ladder match right at the end to win..

[erickman]

Average "podcast," I think, which is kind of disappointing since it was Heyman, but like mentioned earlier, it is like the fiftieth time

The end was pretty great with the tease of a Lesnar/Austin match at WM32, and Austin going full Stone Cold promo.

the best part of the interview was sting and the stieners on the road vs the samoans now that sounds like a good story line.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not a fan of Reigns beating Wyatt. I was thinking the other day that Triple H should get on Bray's case about losing to Reigns, with push coming to shove and Wyatt starting a war with The Authority. A face turn could make him huge. Like as huge as he should be as a heel if he won cleanly occasionally.

I also think that, as much as I do love Jamie Noble & Joey Mercury, Luke Harper & Erick Rowan would make much better bodyguards for Seth.

[EzekielKane]

So if they don't go Lesnar destroying Mr Money in the bank kofi in japan, it's kinda obvious the plan is for Roman to win and then cash in on the ladder match right at the end to win..

That's a good plan, Roman is A level wrestler right there