XBox 1 XBox 360 Backwards Compatability

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Huge feature announced by Microsoft. This is available right now in beta if you're part of the XBox preview program and by holiday for full release.

It is going to be like the OG Xbox compatibility on the 360, as in only tested games work. MS have setup a page for you to vote which games they should get working though, so vote for what you want to see:

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/298503-backwards-compatibility/filters/top

[drave]

I went and flagged all the CoD requests as inappropriate.

[Heisenberg]

CoD 4: Modern Warfare should get a push

[road doggy dogg]

I haven't been able to watch most E3 coverage as I'm in the office all week. How is this being accomplished? I was under the impression that the "architecture" of the system was different and thus the discs could not/would not (CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP) in the new console. Or was that just for PS4?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I haven't been able to watch most E3 coverage as I'm in the office all week. How is this being accomplished? I was under the impression that the "architecture" of the system was different and thus the discs could not/would not (CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP) in the new console. Or was that just for PS4?

Just software emulation. It's pretty impressive that MS is able to emulate the PowerPC CPU on this hardware.

[road doggy dogg]

Will there be noticeable input lag etc with that?

[drave]

Doubtful, since you aren't streaming them.

[road doggy dogg]

nice

[drave]

Wonder if "games with gold" free games transfer to X1 from 360 too..... that would be fucking awesome.

I keep downloading the free titles, but never get around to playing them.

[The Mask]

Niceeee

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Will there be noticeable input lag etc with that?

Doubtful, since you aren't streaming them.

Yeah, it's like playing an emulator on your PC. Keep hoping they'll announce support in Windows 10 to play 360 games now.

[Emperor Smeat]

Wonder if "games with gold" free games transfer to X1 from 360 too..... that would be fucking awesome.

I keep downloading the free titles, but never get around to playing them.

They should since Microsoft said digital games would be covered as well. All up to the publishers though since they get final say.

[Fignuts]

CoD 4: Modern Warfare should get a push

Voted for all 3 modern warfare games.

Can say what you will about multiplayer and it's cursing 12 year olds, but the campaign that stretches through the 3 games is fucking awesome.

World at War/Black Ops trilogy is pretty solid too, but not as good.

[drave]

LOVE WaW multiplayer.

Voted for all 3 modern warfare games.

Flagging YOU as inappropriate :shifty:

[Disturbed316]

Red Dead Redemption is currently top. Absolutely loved that game but not sure I want to go back unless it's a new adventure.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Red Dead Redemption is currently top. Absolutely loved that game but not sure I want to go back unless it's a new adventure.

It makes sense though. Apparently the code of the game is utterly awful, so now the studio is shut down, it can't even be easily ported to PC and played that way. The PS3 version is much worse than the 360 version, so 360 is the only way you can really play it right now.

[The Rogerer]

I'd say getting RDR running will be a nightmare. This is a strange feature. It's inherently difficult, and it's only really worked well where there's been the physical hardware in the system: PS2 had an actual PS1 chip in it, Wii U has a Wii chip in there, the first run of PS3s had the PS2 hardware in there and still struggled.

The 360 backwards compatibility with the original Xbox had very spotty coverage, I'd say this will be the same. It's probably alright in that they can add a load of these games on the Arcade. Otherwise it means that loads of people will just pick up a load of old discs for a few bucks in second hand places.

COD is a weird choice, I mean the old servers are still running and that's great, this would technically extend that expectation for a lot longer. I wouldn't hold my breath that they would run perfectly well though.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm in the preview program but none of the games I have are on the list sooooooo. Waiting game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'd say getting RDR running will be a nightmare. This is a strange feature. It's inherently difficult, and it's only really worked well where there's been the physical hardware in the system: PS2 had an actual PS1 chip in it, Wii U has a Wii chip in there, the first run of PS3s had the PS2 hardware in there and still struggled.

They got the PS2 emulation a lot better in the end. I have a modded PS3 without the BC hardware and it can play pretty much every PS2 game I throw at it. I doubt they'll ever get PS3 on PS4 in the same way, but I really hope they add PS2/PS1 games even if they only support PSN purchases.

Nintendo has benefited from using the same family of chips for the last 3 consoles. The Wii U can play Gamecube games perfectly when modded.

I'm in the preview program but none of the games I have are on the list sooooooo. Waiting game.

Can you buy them from XBL, or is that only going to be able to do in the final version?

[Kalyx triaD]

Any 360 game you wanna purchase after the fact must be done in 360 and Xbox.com's marketplaces. Can't buy 360 games from the Xbox One. Hilariously.

[Heisenberg]

Voted for all 3 modern warfare games.

Can say what you will about multiplayer and it's cursing 12 year olds, but the campaign that stretches through the 3 games is fucking awesome.

World at War/Black Ops trilogy is pretty solid too, but not as good.



The Modern Warfare games were awesome. I still have them all, but it'll be too sweet to play on the One

[Emperor Smeat]

According to fan voting so far, Red Dead Redemption is leading all Xbox 360 games as the most requested game for BC treatment.

Tops is Red Dead Redemption with 34,862 votes, followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Skyrim, Halo: Reach, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.
http://www.destructoid.com/red-dead-redemption-is-most-wanted-for-xbox-one-backwards-compatibility-294421.phtml

[Kalyx triaD]

Idiots.

Halo Reach may likely get added to MCC. R* games are shoe-ins.

[drave]

Need to get in on preview program :(

[Kalyx triaD]

I'll see if I can invite you later. I was invited myself so I don't if it's meant to be a 'viral' thing.

[drave]

only way is via invite. And I would truly appreciate that :D

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think I would like my R trigger to not break. No way I'm playing Mass Effect on my Xbox One. Pretty dumb the number of votes GTA V has. Should be disqualified because there is a One version.

Red Dead deserves to be number one. I've got a digital version I'd love to transfer to my One.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Any 360 game you wanna purchase after the fact must be done in 360 and Xbox.com's marketplaces. Can't buy 360 games from the Xbox One. Hilariously.

That actually makes sense. You don't want idiot customers buying games for the wrong system. They'd complain that the graphics look bad if they thought they were buying a One game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You'll be able to buy 360 games once the feature is fully launched, just like you could OG XBox games in the 360 marketplace. It's just not there yet.

[Dukelorange]

I think I would like my R trigger to not break. No way I'm playing Mass Effect on my Xbox One. Pretty dumb the number of votes GTA V has. Should be disqualified because there is a One version.

Red Dead deserves to be number one. I've got a digital version I'd love to transfer to my One.
If you got the XBOne AFTER you got GTA V, I could see the reason. Why would you drop all that money, when you could just play the game you have.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I want WrestleFest. 2K needs to bring that back to market. They own THQ now.

[Tom Guycott]

Any 360 game you wanna purchase after the fact must be done in 360 and Xbox.com's marketplaces. Can't buy 360 games from the Xbox One. Hilariously.

That actually makes sense. You don't want idiot customers buying games for the wrong system. They'd complain that the graphics look bad if they thought they were buying a One game.

Not so much if they:

A) took the time to make the XBONE marketplace less shit

B) added additional and highly intrusive "disclaimer" during the purchase process that beats you over the head with the fact that is indeed a 360 game

C) took the time to make the XBONE interfaces more intuitive

D) took the time to make the XBONE marketplace less shit, and

E) took the time to make the XBONE marketplace less shit.

Seriously, the games don't appear to be chronological. They sure as hell aren't alphabetical. They're just randomly listed as available titles. Unless you specifically know what you're looking for in a search, just browsing titles is nonsensically labyrinthine. And since it is already done better on the 360, why is this a problem?


As for the BC itself, just seems to be two glaring issues. First is the dual "friends" thing seeming to wreak havoc on parties and invites... at least I guess that's what's causing the issue. Second is any (X) function doesn't quite seem to have a workaround, it functions exactly as it should on the One, which means no checking achievements and such. Though I would have sworn I saw how somewhere. ..

And the list of games compiles from what you may or may not have available. I only had 5 titles. 7 with disc games included. Then, two of the games inexplicably vanished off my list, though still available to play from my games section instead of the preview menu.

[alvarado52]

Opted out of the preview program because I was tired of being booted offline for updates every other week. They really need to prompt that once you dashboard, not in the middle of a fucking game.

Question for anyone who's been able to play 360 games on the One...do your saves come with you? Im curious how they go about that, or do they simply expect you to start all over?

[Tom Guycott]

From what I understand, unless you cloud saved for whatever title, you start from scratch. That's where the BC gamesaves go as well if you start anew.

[The Rogerer]

Isn't this feature releasing officially for Christmas? How does that line up with them giving Fallout 3 away with Fallout 4... I guess you can wait.

Also Fallout 3 struggled enough to run on a 360. If they manage that port somehow, hats off to them.

[Emperor Smeat]

RARE states their Xbox 360 games being made backwards compatible for the Xbox One will include all of its DLC for free.

http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-backwards-compatible-rare-titles-include-dlc-for-free-294693.phtml

[Kalyx triaD]

The Viva Pinata fans are gonna freak.

[Tom Guycott]

As per the report, I'm a little bummed about the Defense Grid DLC (I imagine I'm the only one). It actually does include ONE of them; "Borderlands" (no, not related to that one in any way), but didn't include "You Monster", but I assume that has to do more with license issues with Valve with it being Portal themed.

In fact, I'd guess that the delay between now for preview members and holiday window for official launch may be as much for resolving any digital rights issues by then as ironing out technical bugs.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The Viva Pinata fans are gonna freak.

Best to buy Rare Replay really though. Such fantastic value.

[Emperor Smeat]

Criterion Games currently in talks with Microsoft to make Burnout Paradise backwards compatible for the Xbox One.

http://www.destructoid.com/burnout-paradise-could-be-racing-onto-xbox-one-295423.phtml

[Disturbed316]

They need to do a new Burnout, but a proper one like the originals.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ubisoft recently joined the growing list of studios interested in having their Xbox 360 games be made compatible for the Xbox One. Teased they will do it more as a way to revitalize certain IPs like the Splinter Cell series.

The latest nod of approval comes from Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot. During a post-earnings financial call this morning, he said that the new Xbox One feature is "very good news for the industry." He applauded what it means for consumers to be able to revisit their library despite jumping forward in console technology, but he also mentioned what it means for Ubisoft. "It will help some of the brands, like Splinter Cell for us, come to Xbox One, which is great," he said.

http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-speaks-out-in-favor-of-xbox-one-s-backwards-compatibility-295684.phtml

[Reavant]

MK9 and injustice are in

[Emperor Smeat]

For those in the preview program, RARE revealed the reason why all their currently available BC games have to be re-downloaded. Official reason is related to the upcoming Rare Replay game for the Xbox One and them wanting to make sure select games in the Rare Replay set will also work as a standalone if they are included in the BC program.

A representative for Rare and Xbox has responded by stating "The process is a necessary step that allows gamers to play some of our beloved titles with or without Rare Replay, that includes these titles and 21 more. This action is only to better the fans and allow more people access to the titles."

http://www.destructoid.com/all-of-rare-s-xbox-one-backward-compatible-games-need-to-be-re-downloaded-for-some-reason-296410.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

Castle Crashers and Borderlands currently rumored to be in the next batch of games getting the BC treatment according to recent rumors.

http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-claims-castle-crashers-and-borderlands-getting-backward-compatibility-296708.phtml

[drave]

Awesome.

No troubles out of the preview build yet. Enjoying the shit out of Mass Effect. Game definitely feels "better" than I remember.

[Emperor Smeat]

Backwards compatibility will be available to all Xbox One owners this November. List itself will also includes games that were included in the Xbox 360's Games for Gold service.

As part of its gamescom press conference, it was revealed that backward compatibility will be available to everyone in November of this year.
http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-backward-compatibility-comes-to-everyone-in-november-297189.phtml

[Heisenberg]

Awesome.

No troubles out of the preview build yet. Enjoying the shit out of Mass Effect. Game definitely feels "better" than I remember.



saw you playing that, I'm not a preview member tho. Don't know the first step, kind of feel betrayed by Microsoft there

[drave]

saw you playing that, I'm not a preview member tho. Don't know the first step, kind of feel betrayed by Microsoft there

You have to be invited by MS or a friend. I will be more than happy to send an invite your way this evening.

It does take about 3 days for them to verify your system. Games you can download will appear in the "My Games and Apps" area, all the way to the right with games that are ready to install. I should clarify though - that is if you OWNED the digitial versions.

If you have a disc version of a game, you will need to put the disc in the X1, let it download and keep it in while playing.

Downloaded Gears of War I last night, but no chance to play yet.

[drave]

Invite sent. Took two days for mine to show up. Watch your messages. Took three days after I got the invite to verify the system.

[Dark One]

Sup. Can I get in on this preview action?

[drave]

NO! BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY!

[drave]

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[Dark One]

Gutted right now.

https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/2f242fbbc10357d727751ed5505db8a8/18873%20-%20crying%20gif%20mark_henry%20night_of_champions%20wwe.gif

[drave]

Send me your gamertag mayne :)

I'll send the invite tonight.

[Dark One]

GT: Saland

The glory of getting an Xbox 360 shortly after it came out is that my tag doesn't have to be 65 characters long and with 6 numbers.

[Dark One]

Also:

http://i.imgur.com/5dorL5t.gif

[drave]

GT: Saland

The glory of getting an Xbox 360 shortly after it came out is that my tag doesn't have to be 65 characters long and with 6 numbers.

I changed mine 2 years ago or so because reasons.

GT - v1|2u5

I'll add you and all that fun stuff when home. Your GT makes me think of salad. I hate your GT because I hate salad.

[drave]

We're totes going to be best buddiez now, except your time zone is wank.

[Dark One]

We're totes going to be best buddiez now, except your time zone is wank.

It's actually 2013 on the west coast. Just FYI.

[Tom Guycott]

So, on an updated front, my list of fresh BC games now includes Shadow Complex and Viva Pinata: Trouble In Paradise. Funny thing is, I already downloaded VP, and it's treating both as separate titles?

I'm likely missing some things, too. As I missed out on about a whole year of free games at one point due to lack of internet.

[Emperor Smeat]

Microsoft currently considering the possibility of having original Xbox games also be compatible for the Xbox One based on a recent tweet by Xbox boss Phil Spencer. Wouldn't be actually worked on until after they finish work on Xbox 360 game compatibility.

http://www.destructoid.com/original-xbox-games-could-get-backward-compatibility-support-on-xbox-one-307095.phtml

[Kalyx triaD]

'Fuck for?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Because that would be fucking awesome. THAT'S WHY.

[Kalyx triaD]

If it gets NFL Street 2, sure.

[Emperor Smeat]

Square Enix currently working on getting Deus Ex Human Revolution added to the backwards compatibility list by the time Mankind Divided launches.

http://www.destructoid.com/deus-ex-human-revolution-likely-sneaking-to-xbox-one-s-backward-compatibility-308952.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

Borderlands confirmed to be supported once the actual BC program launches this November. Major Nelson made the announcement today on his official blog.

Halo 3, Halo Wars, and Fable II also teased to be supported around the same time.

http://www.destructoid.com/borderlands-supported-on-xbox-one-backward-compatibility-in-november-309113.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

First 100 games to be officially compatible will be revealed on November 9th while these games themselves won't be playable on Xbox One until November 12th.

For some reference, Xbox 360 discs themselves still won't be playable on the Xbox One. Have to download an approved Xbox One compatible version first in order for the game itself to be playable on the Xbox One.
http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-when-xbox-will-reveal-the-initial-list-of-360-games-coming-to-xbox-one-318813.phtml


Partial list of the games to be among the initial 100 hundred based on the preview program according to Microsoft:

A Kingdom for Keflings
A World of Keflings
Alien Hominid HD
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
BattleBlock Theater
Defense Grid
Geometry Wars Evolved
Hexic HD
Jetpac Refuelled
Kameo
Mass Effect
N+
Perfect Dark
Perfect Dark Zero
Small Arms
Super Meat Boy
Toy Soldiers
Toy Soldiers: Cold War
Viva Piñata
Viva Piñata: TIP
Zuma

http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-all-xbox-one-s-backward-compatible-games-294109.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

Microsoft revealed the first batch of games to be officially backwards compatible on November 12th. 104 games overall with another batch arriving in December and then more added periodically.


A Kingdom for Keflings
A World of Keflings
Alien Hominid HD
Assassin’s Creed II
Asteroids & Deluxe
Banjo Kazooie: N n B
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
BattleBlock Theater
Bejeweled 2
Bellator: MMA Onslaught
Beyond Good & Evil HD
Blood of the Werewolf
BloodRayne: Betrayal
Borderlands
Call of Juarez Gunslinger
Castle Crashers
Castlestorm
Centipede & Millipede
Condemned
Crazy Taxi
Deadliest Warrior: Legends
Defense Grid
DiRT 3
DiRT Showdown
Discs of Tron
Doom
Doom II
Dungeon Siege III
Earthworm Jim HD
Fable II
Fallout 3
Feeding Frenzy 2
Gears of War
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Gears of War: Judgment
Golden Axe
Halo: Spartan Assault
Hardwood Backgammon
Hardwood Hearts
Hardwood Spades
Heavy Weapon
Hexic HD
Ikaruga
Jetpac Refuelled
Joy Ride Turbo
Just Cause 2
Kameo
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
LEGO Star Wars: TCS
Lode Runner
LUMINES LIVE!
Mass Effect
Metal Slug 3
Metal Slug XX
Might & Magic Clash of Heroes
Mirror’s Edge
Missile Command
Monday Night Combat
Monkey Island 2: SE
Monkey Island: SE
Ms. Splosion Man
Mutant Blobs Attack
N+
NBA JAM: On Fire Edition
NiGHTS into dreams…
OF: Dragon Rising
Pac-Man C.E.
PAC-MAN CE DX+
Perfect Dark
Perfect Dark Zero
Phantom Breaker: Battle Grounds
Pinball FX
Plants vs. Zombies
Prince of Persia
Putty Squad
R-Type Dimensions
Rayman 3 HD
Sacred Citadel
Sega Vintage Collection: Alex Kidd & Co.
Sega Vintage Collection: Golden Axe
Sega Vintage Collection: Monster World
Sega Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage
Shadow Complex
Sonic CD
Sonic The Hedgehog
Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Sonic The Hedgehog 3
Super Meat Boy
Supreme Commander 2
The Stick of Truth
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas 2
Torchlight
Toy Soldiers
Toy Soldiers: Cold War
Tron: Evolution
Ugly Americans: Apocalypsegeddon
Viva Piñata
Viva Piñata: TIP
Wolfenstein 3D
Zuma

http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-the-first-full-list-of-xbox-360-backward-compatible-launch-games-319824.phtml

[Emperor Smeat]

Microsoft revealed a small catch with backwards compatibility when it comes to DLC from Xbox 360 games.

“Right now, Backward Compatibility does not emulate the Xbox 360 store and new Xbox 360 games can be purchased on your Xbox 360 or via Xbox.com,” a Microsoft representative said to GameInformer. “We will support both digital and disc-based entitlements for Xbox 360 games running on Xbox One.”

Which is a fancy way of saying if you already own the DLC from when you first played the game on Xbox 360, all your DLC should be ready and waiting for you ... but if you didn't pick up the add-on the first time around, you won't be able to buy it via the Xbox Store on your Xbox One.

In order to get DLC from Xbox 360 games not bought before, it has to be bought from the official Xbox website or from the Xbox 360's marketplace. Can't purchase DLC from the Xbox One's marketplace. Afterwards, the DLC then becomes transferable to the Xbox One.

http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-how-dlc-will-work-with-xbox-one-backward-compatibility-320409.phtml