WWE RAW 8/10 feat. The YES Man, Some comics nerd stuff, and Road to Cena's Nose redemption

[Frank Drebin]

looks like ill never know what sandwich volare ate tonight

[Frank Drebin]

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"Championshiiiiiiiiiiiiii"

[Droford]

Pretty sure a title match won't be that great starting at 10:52

[Droford]

Lol Sbarro Section sign

[#1-norm-fan]

For some reason the run-in bullshit finish is gonna annoy me more than usual tonight.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Lol Sbarro Section sign

I don't blame them. Sbarro pizza is delicious.

[Evil Vito]

For some reason the run-in bullshit finish is gonna annoy me more than usual tonight.

<font color=goldenrod>Probably because it's predictable as shit.

Wrestling has always had predictable moments but when on this entire show you could pretty easily call just about everything that was gonna happen, it just becomes too much.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

...RollinsKO Outta Nowhere?

[#1-norm-fan]

How is that "vintage Rollins"? Words have meanings, Michael Cole. You dumb fuck.

[Droford]

Who does Rollins think he is?

[Droford]

How is that "vintage Rollins"? Words have meanings, Michael Cole. You dumb fuck.

Do believe JBL said that sarcastically

[#1-norm-fan]

Jesus Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiist.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wow. Laaaaaaameeeeee.

[RawRocks]

Fuck You, Sheamus.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol. Let's just make sure to use the one camera angle to not show Sheamus at ringside when literally everybody in the arena probably saw him.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

Do believe JBL said that sarcastically

what

[DAMN iNATOR]

Cena in 3...

[Droford]

Lol that was dumb

[Dark One]

This would be more exciting if it wasn't obvious Orotn was going to RKO him beofre he could cash in.

[DAMN iNATOR]

#1-wwf-fan, I don't care what you say, you cannot claim that RKO on Sheamus wasn't OUTTA NOWHERE!

[Dark One]

So. The person with the most impressive character development tonight was Stephen Amell from Arrow.

Just FYI.

[Droford]

what

JBL said Vintage Rollins, not cole

[Emperor Smeat]

This would be more exciting if it wasn't obvious Orotn was going to RKO him beofre he could cash in.

Yeup. Even the crowd was cheering a bit before the failed cash in attempt.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Also, did I hear the production sound guy accidentally play like 1.5 seconds of Cesaro's music while Orton's was playing or am I imagining shit?

[#1-norm-fan]

JBL said Vintage Rollins, not cole

I can't go back and listen to it but I'm 99% sure it was Cole using his "vintage" catchphrase on a movie Seth Rollins has probably never done before.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The whole "ref takes ages to confirm the MITB holder is cashing in/official announcement needs to be made" thing has become such a staple of MITB. It's almost a given that everybody will have failed cash-in attempts numerous times before they actually do it.

Shame you can't just run out with your own ref who already knows what you're doing like with the Hardcore Title.</font>

[Droford]

I can't go back and listen to it but I'm 99% sure it was Cole using his "vintage" catchphrase on a movie Seth Rollins has literally never done before.

It was JBL

[Droford]

<font color=goldenrod>The whole "ref takes ages to confirm the MITB holder is cashing in/official announcement needs to be made" thing has become such a staple of MITB. It's almost a given that everybody will have failed cash-in attempts numerous times before they actually do it.

Shame you can't just run out with your own ref who already knows what you're doing like with the Hardcore Title.</font>

Technically Rollins had to be on his feet to start the mstch, I assumed that was the hold up

[#1-norm-fan]

It was JBL

Well if it was, then fuck him too. Doesn't even make sense to say sarcastically.

[Droford]

Yeah it does, he was mocking Maggle

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems like nobody learns to not do the patented Flying Nothing against Orton.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/f2e8c497b20a68c80eb56253ac975a32/tumblr_nswedkUyKc1saykaxo1_400.gif

[Fignuts]

Why aren't they using sting for shield vs wyatts? Stupid

[Droford]

Why aren't they using sting for shield vs wyatts? Stupid

Sting should have been involved in the comic book match somehow

[#1-norm-fan]

Hmm. Twitter also seems to have heard Cole use the "Vintage Rollins" line. I'm gonna need confirmation here.

[Emperor Smeat]

Why aren't they using sting for shield vs wyatts? Stupid

Because Vince hasn't made up his mind to use Sting or not. Wyatt Family was already supposed to have its new third member revealed by now in order for that to happen.

[Simple Fan]

How is that "vintage Rollins"? Words have meanings, Michael Cole. You dumb fuck.

It was vintage Rollins because he stole his move. JBL kind of making fun of Cole but he used it right.

[#1-norm-fan]

So it was Cole, then.

[Evil Vito]

Technically Rollins had to be on his feet to start the mstch, I assumed that was the hold up

<font color=goldenrod>You mean like when Rollins cashed in on two opponents who were still down when the bell rung?</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's probably irrelevant anyway. The rules with MITB seem to change every year.

Theoretically everybody for the rest of time should cash in mid-match. But that just makes too much sense. So we can probably assume it's now disallowed. Until they decide to have someone do it again in a few years anyway.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

The MITB match rules are pretty much whatever fits the moment. There's no logic or continuity behind anything about it. It's pretty silly. Even by wrestling standards.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I mean now that it's established that you can (or at least, could) cash in mid-match. Why the fuck NOT do that? There's guaranteed to be at least one moment in any title match where both guys are laying there gassed.</font>

[Simple Fan]

So it was Cole, then.

No it was JBL, he stole Cole's line as Rollins stole Orton's move.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It'd be like another team cashing in on the goal line of the Super Bowl vs. the Patriots (and they'd actually, you know, run the ball)</font>

[Droford]

<font color=goldenrod>You mean like when Rollins cashed in on two opponents who were still down when the bell rung?</font>

Match was in progress

[#1-norm-fan]

Feel like Droford and STD do the same thing where like half of their posts are "correcting" things that don't need to be corrected.

[#1-norm-fan]

Like Droford knows that rule in the fine print of the MITB contract that says "the champion must be standing unless he is already in a match, at which point you can cash in on him standing or not."

Come on.

[Droford]

2013 Bryan never got up from HHH pedigree, but HHH was the ref and it was a screw job so..
2012 "the referee is doing his job making sure Del Rio is to his feet" cole as Ziggler cashed in but the ref waited to ring the bell
2011 - Big Show never got up as Daniel Bryan Pinned him
2011 - punk was starting to get up as the bell rang
2010 - Ref didn't signal for the bell til Jericho got up
2010 - Mysterio was up when Kane came down for the cash in
2010 - Orton was up for Miz's cash in
2009 - Hardy was to his feet
2008 - Edge was up before the bell rang
2007 - Taker was down when the bell rang but he kicked out of the pinfall attempt
2005 - Ref waited for Cena to get to his feet before he called for the bell on Edges cash in

Only 3 times did the ref not wait for the Champion to get up, and one of them was the HHH screwjob

[#1-norm-fan]

Jesus. What point are you trying to make, Droford? lol

[Shadrick]

lmaooo fan

[#1-norm-fan]

lol Not even trying to be mean. I'm genuinely trying to figure out what the fuck is going on here.

Like... he started by stating that Rollins technically had to be on his feet for a cash-in.

Then he argued Vito's point by saying the rule was voided because he cashed in on a match that was already happening.

Now that last post just seems to be him saying it's not really a rule that has been followed in the first place. Almost like he's needlessly correcting himself now.

... This page of Droford posts is confusing as shit right now.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, just went back and listened to the call on Rollins' DDT. Definitely sounds like Cole. But one thing at a time.

[ron the dial]

pretty sure it was jbl

[#1-norm-fan]

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1:28:53

Now that I'm overthinking it, I CAN see how the "vintage" part sounds like it could be JBL. But the way he says "Rollins" is clearly in a Michael Cole cadence/voice. If it's JBL, it's an incredible impression.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, the fact that I still say it would be weird for JBL to say that at that moment makes me lean more toward Cole. Like... he's making fun of Cole saying it a lot by saying it in a moment where it doesn't make sense? And in the heat of a major moment in an important title match no less? Makes more sense that Cole's brain is on auto-pilot and "vintage ____" is what it's conditioned to say during any impact move whatsoever.

[Damian Rey]

That was absolutely Cole at that mark. Undeniably.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I don't think Droford yet understands that saying MitB can be cashed in any time means any time. Doesn't matter one lick if the champion is standing up or not...it is incumbent upon him to defend at all times his title.

If it were me and I were laid out and the briefcase holder came out and started a title match which I then lost by pinfall because of being out cold, oh well. The fact I lost the title is still my own damn fault.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I love to think that Droford went back and re-watched every single MITB cash-in just to make a point.</font>

[Droford]

I don't think Droford yet understands that saying MitB can be cashed in any time means any time. Doesn't matter one lick if the champion is standing up or not...it is incumbent upon him to defend at all times his title.

If it were me and I were laid out and the briefcase holder came out and started a title match which I then lost by pinfall because of being out cold, oh well. The fact I lost the title is still my own damn fault.
In 3 of 5 instances minus the HHH incident when the Champion was down the ref waited to start the match until they were standing enough to break a 10 count in a last man standing match. The bigger surprise to me was number of cash ins where the champ was fully standing and waiting..

[Droford]

<font color=goldenrod>I love to think that Droford went back and re-watched every single MITB cash-in just to make a point.</font>

I only watched the ones that I knew would count. I really wanted to find clips of attempted cash ins where the champ was down like last night and the ref wouldn't start the match because of it, feel like I remember there's more examples of that happening.

[Big Vic]

Hey lay off of Droford, lists are cool.

[unclebrown]

Could tonight finally be the night we find out if Daniel Bryan has to retire? Feel like I'm gonna be mad emotional if that's the main topic and he has to retire...would suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.....



well he didn't so YES on payaso

[unclebrown]

Cesaro NEEDS to go over in that triple threat.



Cesaro, next rumble winna

[unclebrown]

Daniel to retire I cant wait!



just cuz ur healthy doesn't mean you can pray on the hurt and weak blizzotch

[Big Vic]

Are we not talking about "VintageGate" anymore?

[#1-norm-fan]

lol Not even trying to be mean. I'm genuinely trying to figure out what the fuck is going on here.

Like... he started by stating that Rollins technically had to be on his feet for a cash-in.

Then he argued Vito's point by saying the rule was voided because he cashed in on a match that was already happening.

Now that last post just seems to be him saying it's not really a rule that has been followed in the first place. Almost like he's needlessly correcting himself now.

... This page of Droford posts is confusing as shit right now.

Explain yourself, fucker!

[#1-norm-fan]

Are we not talking about "VintageGate" anymore?

Depends. What are your thoughts?

[Big Vic]

I'll have to review the tape when I arrive home.

[unclebrown]

2013 Bryan never got up from HHH pedigree, but HHH was the ref and it was a screw job so..
2012 "the referee is doing his job making sure Del Rio is to his feet" cole as Ziggler cashed in but the ref waited to ring the bell
2011 - Big Show never got up as Daniel Bryan Pinned him
2011 - punk was starting to get up as the bell rang
2010 - Ref didn't signal for the bell til Jericho got up
2010 - Mysterio was up when Kane came down for the cash in
2010 - Orton was up for Miz's cash in
2009 - Hardy was to his feet
2008 - Edge was up before the bell rang
2007 - Taker was down when the bell rang but he kicked out of the pinfall attempt
2005 - Ref waited for Cena to get to his feet before he called for the bell on Edges cash in

Only 3 times did the ref not wait for the Champion to get up, and one of them was the HHH screwjob



this so much this


right Merc?

[Simple Fan]

Sting should have been involved in the comic book match somehow

Yep, throwing Barrett in there is weird. Sting is the vigilante, the Arrow is a vigilante it pretty much writes itself. Heel Sting could work, plus Neville and Stardust would work most the match.

[Mercenary]

I'm not touching MITB case argument.

[DAMN iNATOR]

unclebrown, whomever you may be, please lay off Merc...he's been through a lot in 2015. That's all I will say out of respect for his private life other than I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

[unclebrown]

so this is how you treat new payasos and essays, I get it