A Nightmare on Elm Street reboot

[Zeeboe]

http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/08/11/a-nightmare-on-elm-street-reboot-remake-2015/

Didn't they learn their lesson the first time? :nono:

[Fignuts]

I liked the last one. Was cool to see a legit scary take on Freddy, which we hadn't really seen since the first movie. New Nightmare tried but he came off as meaner rather than scarier.

Definitely could have done a better job on haley's mask though.

[Zeeboe]

All the reboot did was make me miss the real Freddy.

[Fignuts]

So watch the old movies then. There's freaking seven of them.

[ron the dial]

i didn't mind the last one. i'll check out a new one. i've always been a sucker for freddy. total mark for dream warriors.

[Droford]

Dumb

[Tom Guycott]

I liked the last one. Was cool to see a legit scary take on Freddy, which we hadn't really seen since the first movie. New Nightmare tried but he came off as meaner rather than scarier.

Definitely could have done a better job on haley's mask though.

Only real problem I had with the last one was the teasing of him being wrongly accused. If they would hage followed through with that all the way, it would have been interesting to have an almost Pied Piper effect: making the families pay with the lives of their children. But the reveal basically negated all that and made it feel unnecessary, and kinda thrown in to make avoid backlash for a new direction. "Maybe he's innocent and he isn't such a -LOL SWERVE THE LAST MINUTE!"

Hopefully, they'll handle that better this go 'round.

[Sixx]

i didn't mind the last one. i'll check out a new one. i've always been a sucker for freddy. total mark for dream warriors.

Always knew you were a Dokken fan.

[Zeeboe]

So watch the old movies then. There's freaking seven of them.

Eight actually. I find a reboot threatening because it could possibly cause the original series to fade away from the mainstream and I also long for new ideas with films.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

How does a film "fading away from mainstream", whatever that's even supposed to mean, affect your enjoyment of the original(s)?

[Zeeboe]

How does a film "fading away from mainstream", whatever that's even supposed to mean, affect your enjoyment of the original(s)?

It doesn't, but I prefer people to know there is only one Freddy.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'm pretty sure Robert Englund will always be the most noteworthy Freddy Krueger. If someone were to displace him as THE iconic actor to play Freddy Krueger, then it's probably be down to the reboot being a very very good film and that actors portrayal of Krueger being excellent.

[RP]

If Englund isn't in it, I don't care.

[Zeeboe]

Another reason why I am against a reboot is because it was done already and didn't make any money and most people hated it.


In general, I object to remakes because the writers are basically ripping off someone else's work and making millions. They're in a way guilty of stealing on all accounts.


Are there ever going to be any new ideas?

[Sixx]

It made over $115 million on a $35 million budget, how is that not making money?

[Zeeboe]

When compared to the original, that's nada. The reboot also was essentially forgotten after the hype died down.

[Sixx]

When compared to the original, that's nada. The reboot was essentially forgotten after the hype died down.

The original made half of that ($58 million in 2015 money). A lower budget, sure, but the remake did pretty well box office wise. I thought it was ok, nothing special, though.

[Zeeboe]

A female Freddy is a horrible idea. The "Ghostbusters" reboot is being ruined because of feminism. Let's not make a "Nightmare" remake worst then what it's going to be with a chick as Freddy. What's with all the pussy-eating going on in movies?


Even though films are fake, I enjoy movies where even the obviously unrealistic stories still have some sense of realism to them because it makes it entertaining. In the case of "A Nightmare on Elm Street" - I am actually defending women. Men are more scary and the majority of the psychos are male, so there's a better chance of a guy going around murdering kids then a lady.

Furthermore, if a female did kill children and got off on a legal technicality, no mob of people in 2015 would *ever* burn her alive because she is a woman. We would be told how it was the system's fault for making her that way and she would be forgiven and loved by all and would go on "The View", smiling and promoting her book.

[Fignuts]

How is Ghostbusters ruined?

[Zeeboe]

Again, even though all films are fake, I prefer even the obviously unrealistic movies have a story that takes place in the regular world we all live in. In other words, the rest of earth is normal, but in New York City, an army of ghosts attack and the New Yorkers in the story would respond with the same kind of action people in the real NYC here in the real world would respond with. Doing all that helps the audience relate to the story more.


In the case of the reboot of "Ghostbusters", if ghosts really did attack The Big Apple, I guarantee most women would be screaming, running, and hiding. It'd be mostly *men* fighting the ghosts. It's nature. Men are hunters, fighters, and protectors. It was through the strength of men that the human race evolved. Women are nurturers and caretakers. (I wish we could all be like that. There would be little violence then.)

[Fignuts]

The original ghostbusters were hardly fearless warriors, and the new movie will likely follow suit. That's why it's funny in the first place. so I don't think you have to worry about your suspension of disbelief being threatened.

[Sixx]

So what would you be doin' if ghosts attacked the world, Z? Seeing how you consider yourself a woman trapped in a man's body.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Zeeboe you're just wrong in everything you're saying in this thread.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

"Logistics and realism's of a comedy movie about daft looking ghosts" - An essay by Zeeboe

[Fignuts]

Entertaining that viewpoint even further, the ghostbusters are not warriors. They are scientists doing a job. There are millions of women who perform jobs with potential hazards, some even fatal.

So there you go totally realistic. Not ruined.

[Zeeboe]

I realize there are women who do dangerous jobs, but why do you think whenever there is any type of crime where a small child is involved in anyway, a female cop is sent in to attend to the kid?

It's because men are fucking scary and most ladies are not.

In the movie "Signs", according to the IMDB, the aliens were originally scripted as having feminine builds and movements, thus the movements of tall, thin, female actors were used as models for CGI tests and some shots. However, it was decided that female bodies did not convey a threatening enough posture for the creatures, and a male CGI stand-in ended up being used in the final scene with Morgan as well as on the rooftop.

Know why? BECAUSE MEN ARE MORE THREATENING!


During 9/11, it was mostly male firefighters going in and saving people.



Furthermore, what about the sexism there is against men by casting chicks in roles made famous by men?


Is there ever going to be a male "Sex In The City"? Or a male "Annie"? Or a male lead in a reboot of "The Wizard of Oz"? How about a male as Ripley if "Alien" is remade? I mean, let's please be equal here. But when it comes to equality for men, no one cares.


Or how about no remakes at all and someone come up with something original instead of stealing other people's ideas?

[Zeeboe]

I don't know what that is. Anyhow, if the studio is going to be liberal about the reboot, I think they should cast an African-American man as Freddy.

[weather vane]

I am dumber for reading this thread. Fuck me...

[Zeeboe]

If an African-American actor played Freddy, the story could be that a kind farmer named Fred Krueger living in 1917 rural Springwood, Ohio gets falsely accused of murdering white children and is burned alive by a lynch mob. (Robert Englund could play the lynch mob leader who lights the torch and throws it on Fred. Passing the torch - get it?)


Then one-hundred-years-later, Freddy comes back with a vengeance as a dream demon, forcing the teenagers to pay for the sins of their forefathers.

[Sixx]

If an African-American actor played Freddy, the story could be that a kind farmer named Fred Krueger living in 1917 rural Springwood, Ohio gets falsely accused of murdering white children and is burned alive by a lynch mob. (Robert Englund could play the lynch mob leader who lights the torch and throws it on Fred. Passing the torch - get it?)


Then one-hundred-years-later, Freddy comes back with a vengeance as a dream demon, forcing the teenagers to pay for the sins of their forefathers.

Noo. Too subtle.

[Zeeboe]

Switch out murdering white children with banging white women, and you've pretty much pitched the plot of Candyman.

Who gives a fuck about being liberal? I'd rather the studio be creative. Fuck all this other noise about being politically correct, or the black helicopter mindset that feminism is taking over Hollywood. It's just the movies, brah.

I hate reboots too, especially reboots of reboots, but I figure if they are going to do it, they might as well attempt to do something entertaining. So they might rip-off "Candyman" slightly - Isn't that the thing in modern movies now? Isn't stealing other people's ideas what's cool?


A female Freddy will make the film into a BDSM porno.

[RP]

I wish we could reboot Zeeboe to a good poster

[Zeeboe]

I'm not here to impress you.

[RP]

I would hope not.

[Rhinestonecowboy]

I am dumber for reading this thread. Fuck me...

[Zeeboe]

The movie business is dying, but if you guys want to make jokes about it, like you do everything else, be my guest. I guess you guys don't care about anything as long as it doesn't affect your post count.

[Sixx]

Yes, you nailed it, Z.

[Rhinestonecowboy]

I care, I lay awake at night in a fevered sweat, hoping that studio execs and a list actors still have their jobs the next day.

[slik]

Zeeboe...this film industry is far from dying....

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

[Zeeboe]

Zeeboe...this film industry is far from dying....

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

The numbers have gone down. The economy is also different from how it was back in the 80's.

I've seen films on opening weekends and there were barely any people in the theaters. Others have voiced the same concerns and reported low-attendance.


Since video stores are now dead, I can believe movie theaters are next.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The numbers have gone down. The economy is also different from how it was back in the 80's.

I've seen films on open weekends and there were barely any people in the theaters. Others have voiced the same concerns and reported low-attendance.


Since video stores are now dead, I can believe movie theaters are next.

Video stores aren't dead...there's one like 1/2 mi. down the road from me and they still do just fine and dandy.

[Zeeboe]

Video stores aren't dead...there's one like 1/2 mi. down the road from me and they still do just fine and dandy.

Well, I haven't seen a Blockbuster in ages. It's all Red Box and Netflix.


http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2013/11/long-live-video-store/71324/

[Rhinestonecowboy]

Wanna say all remaining blockbusters are independently owned.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well, I haven't seen a Blockbuster in ages. It's all Red Box and Netflix.


http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2013/11/long-live-video-store/71324/

Blockbuster may have shuttered as a national company, but the store near me is a Family Video, and they really do seem to be thriving.

[Zeeboe]

I know of a city that had a drive-in theater too in recent years. Overall however, video stores and drive-in theaters are passé, and standard movie theaters could be next.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL, with the probably billions or even tens of billions the worldwide box office brings to Hollywood in profits every year? I think not. :o

[Zeeboe]

I didn't say it was going to happen today.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Great comeback. Seriously, it's not going to happen ever. That's like suggesting Las Vegas will one day fail to exist. It won't. Vegas and Hollywood have both mastered the fine art of making gambling and the theater experience so addictive and alluring to people that they will never have to worry about having at least several hundred billion dollars at least probably to use to shamelessly promote and hype themselves in perpetuity.

[Zeeboe]

I'm not in some "battle of insults" with you, so the "great comeback" line was not needed.


How long do you really think people are going to keep rewatching the same story over and over again? There are soon going to be two remakes of "A Nightmare on Elm Street" and two reboots of "Predator" all within ten years. Human beings aren't stupid. They're going to see exactly what Hollywood is doing and they're going to get tired of it.



I can tell you're from a small-town. Only in rural U.S.A. do I still see those Mom-and-Pop video stores that went out of style for the rest of the country in the 1990's when Blockbuster put them out of business. In any case, small-towners are typically (and literally) thirty years behind the rest of the world and refuse to change with the times.



Survival of the fittest is out here, DAMN. Blockbuster killed the Mom-and-Pop locally owned video stores, then Netflix and Redbox killed Blockbuster and thus killing video stores for the majority of Americans. You really think most modern Americans want to deal with late fees or having to travel back and fourth to a video store and perhaps deal with bad traffic and possibly have to stand in a long line when they can get their entertainment from the comfort of their own home?


Top-rated entertainment is within a few clicks away on Netflix, Amazon Instant, and Time Warner on demand. Illegally downloading movies off the net is a hobby for too many people too.




Movie theaters could very well be next on the endangered species list. Waiting until films are available to rent saves time and money, people have TV's today that are so epic, it's like having your own theater, watching movies at home means you can pause the film whenever you have to take a piss and by watching films at your house, you also don't have to deal with obnoxious motherfuckers talking during the movie or laughing loudly forever at stuff that isn't funny. Some people are so obsessed with the internet and texting that theaters have to advertise against using cellphones. Not going at all takes care of that problem for some people.





I hope you can accept 2015 culture someday. Until then, have fun partying like it's 1985.

[DAMN iNATOR]

You know what else people thought would go the way of the dodo? Radio and television. Yet one is about 115 years old and still going strong, and the other is pushing 90, both with no end in sight.

People also thought record albums ("vinyl" ones) were dead 25-30 years ago, too, yet it, a technology which is around 135 years old, is now experiencing a resurgence in popularity.

[Zeeboe]

Muskets from the United States Civil War are still around too. I didn't type movie theaters would be erased. I can see them becoming a novelty one day like those diners that have 1950's themes to them.