WWE RAW 8/24 feat. New Day of Divas Rev., Vinny's Birthday Extravaganza, Stewart "Did it for the Rock"

[#1-norm-fan]

Crowd doing the wave, among other things during the Divas match tonight. Showed no interested at all

Oh. Well. She should be mad at the writers for not making divas matches anything worth investing in emotionally and thus giving more "energetic" crowds nothing to do but the wave.

[Jazzy Foot]

I KNEW IT!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Jazzy Foot]

Sting v Seth Rollins at Night of Champions?

[Tom Guycott]

Im begging the WWE to give Sting his Crow theme back

Seek and Destroy

[KIRA]

Remember when people got pissed 'cause Sting was always in the main event picture with the NWA / TNA World Heavyweight Championship?

No cause I'm not 70

jk

[DAMN iNATOR]

When Michael Cole said "We've just been informed..." I seriously thought he was gonna say "We've just been informed Sting will face Seth Rollins for the WWE World Title at Night of Champions". lol

Like it or not, that's where it's headed.

[#1-norm-fan]

... I want Sting to win the title really fucking bad.

[RawRocks]

Sting vs Rollins at NOC for WWE Title its official

[#1-norm-fan]

Like it or not, that's where it's headed.

Yes. But Cole announcing it at that very moment would have been hilarious/ridiculous. That was my point.

[owenbrown]

I'd be all for Sting as WWE World Heavyweight Champion.

[Emperor Smeat]

So if lets say Sting beats Rollins for the WWE title and maybe US title if they put it as a combo, does he get his own statue too?

Probably want to go with classic Sting hair and not the puffy type he has now though.

[#1-norm-fan]

What are the chances they just wanna give Sting a WWE title reign before he retires? It's possible. A man can dream.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/8c904838261e97baeadac2a217cc5d30/tumblr_ntmbynXBZe1saykaxo2_400.gif

[#1-norm-fan]

Wish Lesnar was a heel still. Sting winning the world title and Lesnar ending his reign very soon after via squash would make him even more uber-heel.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I do think Sting winning sets up a really nice opportunity for Sheamus to cash in either immediately after to spoil the moment or the next night on Raw. And Rollins keeps the US belt.

Realllllllly don't want Sting to be 0-2.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm actually thinking Sheamus cashes in on Sting, too. They shouldn't do it right afterward though. They can have NOC end with a huge moment as Sting celebrates with the title and then the next night on Raw, Triple H is telling Rollins all night that he's got a plan. Sting has his celebration at the end of the night, Triple H and Rollins come out to beat him down, Sheamus comes out and cashes in, Triple H holds up his hand in victory and Rollins looks on like "What the fuck, bro..."

[Jazzy Foot]

A short time ago I was suggesting Taker would be beat Brock to set up a third encounter and everyone jumped down my throat for even suggesting Taker should beat Brock.

I also suggested a while back having Sting in the title picture wouldn't be a bad thing and again people jumped down my throat.

Now everyone's going crazy for Taker and Sting. I don't know you guys change your stance all the time.

But any way I think having Sting in the title picture would be great but I think this needs building up i.e. not just for Night of Champions and that's it.

I think we need a Sting vs the Authority saga maybe stretching into Survivor Series, the Rumble and then culminating at WM 32.

[Jazzy Foot]

I don't think Sheamus will be involved in the storyline at all and I also predict he will "lose" the briefcase i.e. it will be put on the line in a match and he loses.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>It's worth remembering that there was a heavy rumor in 2010 that WWE would give Bret a very short run with the WWE Title as a "thank you" for coming back (gave him the US Title instead). A year later there were plans to have Lawler win the belt from The Miz and then drop it back before WM.

So the whole "legend comes out of nowhere to win the WWE Title" idea is one WWE has thought about pretty recently.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

A short time ago I was suggesting Taker would be beat Brock to set up a third encounter and everyone jumped down my throat for even suggesting Taker should beat Brock.

I also suggested a while back having Sting in the title picture wouldn't be a bad thing and again people jumped down my throat.

Now everyone's going crazy for Taker and Sting. I don't know you guys change your stance all the time.

Umm.. are you actually reading the posts? Most people jumped down your throat for suggesting Taker beating Lesnar and now they're jumping down WWE's throat for doing it because it was fucking stupid. People didn't change their opinion.

[Jazzy Foot]

I have to say it would be awesome to see Sting as the WWE Champion and perhaps winning the Royal Rumble along the way.

[Jazzy Foot]

Umm.. are you actually reading the posts? Most people jumped down your throat for suggesting Taker beating Lesnar and now they're jumping down WWE's throat for doing it because it was fucking stupid. People didn't change their opinion.

Why was it stupid? Taker didn't win cleanly, he tapped out then low blowed Lesnar for the win. It then sets up the possibility of a third and perhaps final match between the two of them which people want to see. I can't see how that is stupid (re: increased interest for their match, subscriptions and buys go up etc).

[#1-norm-fan]

<font color=goldenrod>It's worth remembering that there was a heavy rumor in 2010 that WWE would give Bret a very short run with the WWE Title as a "thank you" for coming back (gave him the US Title instead). A year later there were plans to have Lawler win the belt from The Miz and then drop it back before WM.

So the whole "legend comes out of nowhere to win the WWE Title" idea is one WWE has thought about pretty recently.</font>

Fuck Bret winning it. He already had reigns with it. Having him get another when he's old and broken would have been useless. Lawler would have been kinda cool though. As will Sting if they go through with it.

[#1-norm-fan]

Why was it stupid? Taker didn't win cleanly, he tapped out then low blowed Lesnar for the win. It then sets up the possibility of a third and perhaps final match between the two of them which people want to see. I can't see how that is stupid (re: increased interest for their match, subscriptions and buys go up etc).

I'm not about to re-hash that entire thread here. Just go back and read it again. lol

[Jazzy Foot]

<font color=goldenrod>It's worth remembering that there was a heavy rumor in 2010 that WWE would give Bret a very short run with the WWE Title as a "thank you" for coming back (gave him the US Title instead). A year later there were plans to have Lawler win the belt from The Miz and then drop it back before WM.

So the whole "legend comes out of nowhere to win the WWE Title" idea is one WWE has thought about pretty recently.</font>

Well didn't a particularly wrestler whom WWE have now erased from their archives come back to the WWE in 2002, lose to The Rock at WM 18 and then weeks later beat Triple H for the undisputed WWE title and then lose to Undertaker at the next PPV? Sting as a short time champion could happen.

Might they allow him to win at WM 32? I would say not but never say never.

[Mercenary]

A Three hour raw that topped a ppv yeah good job WWE.....

[Jazzy Foot]

I'm not about to re-hash that entire thread here. Just go back and read it again. lol

No I remember the gist of what was discussed. They were never going to allow The Streak to end and then not have The Undertaker seek some measure of revenge etc. Having him win this way paves the way for a final encounter possibly for Wrestle Mania.

[#1-norm-fan]

You should seriously go to that thread and if you have any new thoughts, voice them. Again, not gonna re-hash the same points in this thread all over again. I think everyone made all their points about Taker going over Lesnar being retarded multiple times there.

[Jazzy Foot]

You should seriously go to that thread and if you have any new thoughts, voice them and discuss them. Again, not gonna re-hash the same points in this thread all over again. lol

No new thoughts. I'm just merely saying that my predictions and suggestions re: Taker and earlier I suggested Sting would be in the box etc. aren't wide off the mark and clearly WWE see potential in having Taker and Lesnar go at it one more time as with Sting and Rollins.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>I do think Sting winning sets up a really nice opportunity for Sheamus to cash in either immediately after to spoil the moment or the next night on Raw. And Rollins keeps the US belt.

Realllllllly don't want Sting to be 0-2.</font>

Probably going to be Cena costing Rollins as payback for Summerslam and then Sting gets a small Hogan-like "Thank You" run or Sheamus cash-in happens as a panic moment like Vince tried when CM Punk won the belt.

Another way that would really cement Rollins heel status would be for him and Triple H scheme to pull a switcharoo in case Sting actually won. Imply the match is for the WWE title and instead Sting gets the US title when he actually wins. The booing Rollins and Triple H would get could reach "Montreal Screwjob" level if done correctly.

[Simple Fan]

Thought HHH set Rollins up for a second the way he got out of the ring. Wonder if they go the ROH rout and have him defend both titles separately. If he was to lose the US title to Cena and the WWE title to Sting at NOC that would for sure piss HHH off and start that feud.

[#1-norm-fan]

No new thoughts. I'm just merely saying that my predictions and suggestions re: Taker and earlier I suggested Sting would be in the box etc. aren't wide off the mark and clearly WWE see potential in having Taker and Lesnar go at it one more time as with Sting and Rollins.

WWE see potential in a lot of things that end up being mind-blowingly dumb. See: Most of the booking.

[Jazzy Foot]

Either that or Cena costs Rollins the WWE title as payback for Summerslam. Sting gets a small Hoagn-like "Thank You" run while Sheamus cash-in gets saved for a much later date.

Another way that would really cement Rollins heel status would be for him and Triple H scheme to pull a switcharoo in case Sting actually won. Imply the match is for the WWE title and instead Sting gets the US title when he actually wins. The booing Rollins and Triple H would get could reach "Montreal Screwjob" level if done correctly.

I was actually about to suggest this. But according to the TPWW news page, the US title has been removed from WWE.COM? So are they going to retire the bellt or something?

Furthermore I see Sting winning at NoC but by DQ due to some kind of interference by the Authority or their lackeys etc and Rollins remains the champ.

Also wrt the briefcase, we all seem to be under the assumption that Sheamus would be scripted to win and there's every possibility he could simply cash in and lose. I've always liked Sheamus but his current run hasn't impressed and I don't see him in the title picture.

[#1-norm-fan]

Thought HHH set Rollins up for a second the way he got out of the ring. Wonder if they go the ROH rout and have him defend both titles separately. If he was to lose the US title to Cena and the WWE title to Sting at NOC that would for sure piss HHH off and start that feud.

No idea what else Cena can do at NOC.

[Jazzy Foot]

No idea what else Cena can do at NOC.

Be absent from WWE programming until NoC and then interfere in the main event and help Sting win the title. Only for Sting to be stripped of the title the next night on Raw due to interference.

[Simple Fan]

Be absent from WWE programming until NoC and then interfere in the main event and help Sting win the title. Only for Sting to be stripped of the title the next night on Raw due to interference.

Cena absent from WWE programming for 3 plus weeks not going to happen. Would rather see him try to get his US title back. He has no claim to a WWE title shot. He can use his rematch clause but that would only be for the US title. So Rollins should pull double duty at NOC and defend both titles.

[Corkscrewed]

I'm just thinking now that Sting agreed to job at WM in return for a WWE Title run. But great surprises all show tonight!

[Corkscrewed]

Also, Paige's tweet is deleted now. :lol:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yes. But Cole announcing it at that very moment would have been hilarious/ridiculous. That was my point.

You act as though you know someone else who's always pointing out obvious things...:shifty:

[NormanSmiley]

Oh. Well. She should be mad at the writers for not making divas matches anything worth investing in emotionally and thus giving more "energetic" crowds nothing to do but the wave.




shows what a limp dick you truly are. the writers dont go out there and work a match. these broads aren't compelling IN THE RING. they have given them more tv time to give the fans something to invest in, we don't give a shit. name one compelling thing two divas could feud over that you would give a shit about, i'll wait.

the guy pointing out earlier that summer rae/lana brawl got reaction is because they are fighting over dudes, thats the only thing fans would go for.

they have had their chance, and they have blown it. the bellas suck at everything and the rest are butterfaces who can't go.

[NormanSmiley]

... I want Sting to win the title really fucking bad.


i am officially the world's biggest seth rollins fan now

[#1-norm-fan]

lol Norman Smiley is, without exaggeration, the worst poster in TPWW history.

I was gonna actually go into Trish/Lita, the Trish/Mickie James feud or how NXT Divas matches are consistently the most compelling on the shows but... Norman Smiley.

[Poit]

Cena absent from WWE programming for 3 plus weeks not going to happen. Would rather see him try to get his US title back. He has no claim to a WWE title shot. He can use his rematch clause but that would only be for the US title. So Rollins should pull double duty at NOC and defend both titles.

Triple threat match, Eurocontinental style. Winner of the first fall becomes WHC. Winner of the second fall becomes US champion.

Not that I actually want this to happen, but it's a way to get both titles defended at NoC with the Authority still protecting Rollins in some way from having two matches.

[#1-norm-fan]

I was thinking that, too. Just with the US Title as the first fall. Seems anti-climactic the other way especially if Sting wins the world title.

[Damian Rey]

That's actually a perfect idea. Especially because you can have shenanigans to keep Cena out of the title picture but still put the US belt back on him.

Pumped to see Sting. Looked like he was moving exceptionally well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H, Stephanie and Seth sold Sting showing up really well. I know they tried to protect Sting with shenanigans at Mania, but he really should have won that match. BUT, it does allow for Rollins to arrogantly slap some shit in Triple H's direction. Eg. "You couldn't even beat Triple H at WrestleMania..." "What do you mean he couldn't even beat me?"

Given that Rollins holds both the World and US Titles, it stands to reason that he'll have to defend both at Night of Champions. Rollins vs. Cena for the US Title and Rollins vs. Sting for the World Heavyweight Title. And I'm actually thinking they put the World Title on Sting. This collapses The Authority, as Triple H now has issues with Rollins for losing all the gold, Cena is still the US Champion, and Sting could be used to put pretty much ANYBODY over huge. Like, it could be Ziggler, Sheamus, Lesnar or even Taker. They're doing the Garden show as a special on the WWE Network -- don't tell me that Sting vs. Taker for the World Heavyweight Title in the Garden wouldn't be pretty fucking amazing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And a thought on why the crowd reacted to Lana/Summer better than Paige/Charlotte/Becky/Nikki/Brie/Alicia. Tom Guycott pointed it out -- there's more meaning there. And the story between Summer Rae and Lana is clearly defined.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They probably should have just brought in one girl for this "Revolution," and had it be Charlotte. She and Paige could have beaten The Bellas, then both ended up as rivals chasing the titles. Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch could have easily gotten a few more matches out of their classic earlier this year. I was hoping for an eventual 2/3 Falls Match, and maybe even the first-ever WWE-sanctioned Ladder Match between two ladies.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ironically, that would have helped Nikki's reign a lot more, because Paige and Charlotte could end up feuding, costing themselves shots at the title, and Nikki could just coast through life really easy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, and it's official:

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Really, really want Sting to win. I do think they're going to go down the "Hey, you have two titles now, you gotta defend them both..." path, and have Rollins work with Cena, then play bouncy ball for Sting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Throw that in there with The Dudley Boyz challenging for the WWE Tag Team Titles, and you have a pretty surreal PPV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've got a feeling that if Sting felt he shouldn't go over Triple H at WrestleMania, then he probably doesn't want to de-rail Seth and win the World Heavyweight Championship. In fact, he'll probably insist John Cena beat Rollins and he doesn't...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Still not feeling Braun Stowman in the role he's in. Seems very...hapless out there. Not experienced enough for this shit. And now that Sting is facing Rollins, who does that leave for Reigns & Ambrose? Orton? Cesaro? A 2-on-3 Handicap Match?

[#1-norm-fan]

Depending on what happens with Lesnar, if he angrily "goes home" because of the bullshit finish to his match, Taker joining The Shield against The Wyatts could be a thing. He wouldn't have to work too much in a 6-man and you'd add another major name to a B-level PPV card that's already SummerSlam worthy.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

PTP/New Day/Dudleys/Lucha Dragons/Los Matadores TLC clusterfuck match. I'll pay for that.

[drave]

^

Should happen.

[#1-norm-fan]

Sting, The Dudleys, John Cena and Ryback as the champions would just be a crazy encapsulation of every era in modern wrestling all at once. A picture should be tweeted if that happens.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Plus Fandango as the holder of the newly reinstated European Championship.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

We can do better than European title for Fandango.

Million Dollar Title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

My problem with the clusterfucks is that no one gives a shit about Los Matadores or Lucha Dragons right now. And that's sad. The New Day really should have beaten two jobbers on RAW or something. Would have emphasized The Dudleys returning as being huge stars. Also, a lowly match for The New Day would have been great to build their heat as punk heels that suck up to The Authority.

Lucha Dragons should have beaten The Ascension on Superstars, and then they should move onto a program with Diego y Fernando on SmackDown. You know, to actually build tag teams to challenge for the Titles down the track? Dragons win the first match, and the following week, Diego y Fernando do a quirky interview segment where they put the Dragons over, but claim it was a fluke and that they know they can beat Sin Cara y Kalisto. Second match, they lose to the Dragons again. Third times the charm right? Matadores win that match when they use the tights or something, and initiate a proper heel turn.

Going from that, The Lucha Dragons can work with Los Matadores in singles matches. Sin Cara and Fernando were actually a tag team in FCW, so I bet they have good chemistry. Have Fernando win that match, because Sin Cara is lower priority than Kalisto -- who does manage to beat Diego.

This all builds to Masks vs. Masks, which The Dragons win, forcing Diego y Fernando to reveal themselves as Epico & Primo Colon -- former WWE Tag Team Champions. The Colons then attack Lucha Dragons in a rage, coming out of their masked personas with a new vengeance, and start cutting promos about how they were The Crown Princes of Puerto Rico but get no respect in the WWE.

That thing could go on for months and make for some fun lower-card programming that could actually get everyone over.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think The Prime Time Players get their rematch on RAW or SmackDown sometime, and get put through tables to send a message to The Dudley Boyz. No need to book too many teams for Night of Champions -- it'll dilute the match and things may not get into a proper rhythm. The Dudleys can be the face challengers; The New Day the heel champions. Simple. The Prime Time Players make their return at the PPV, take out Xavier Woods, and The Dudleys 3D their way to a tenth WWE Tag Team Title.

On RAW, The Dudleys claim that they don't need help to win championships, and actually take issue with Darren Young & Titus O'Neil sticking their noses in their business. Young & O'Neil mouth off a little bit and stand up for themselves, and you include them in the title picture with some build.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Stowman's call-up really is an odd one the more I think about it. Unless I missed something he's never wrestled a match at Full Sail. Only has done NXT house shows and the like. Given WWE's emphasis on building NXT as a true developmental system with the same ring size, camera set up, etc. that they'll see on Raw it seems kinda hypocritical to call somebody up with very little experience.

Pretty clear it just came down to the fact that he looks the part with the size and beard. I'm sure Rowan would have gotten the spot if he were healthy.</font>

[Mr. Nerfect]

Still maintain that Jimmy Uso turning heel would have been more of a moment. The black sheep thing could have even worked for him. He's sick of being on the sidelines and waiting, whilst his brother sits at home hurt, and his other family member steals the spotlight. "Anyone but you, Roman..."

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jey Uso could have gone on Twitter -- "I don't know anything about this. Bro, what's going on?" Naomi could have supported her husband "We're doing what we have to do to get noticed around here".

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jey Uso could have come back fighting for his brother's soul. Bray could have ordered Jimmy to destroy him. Maybe Jimmy does and you trial a feud, ending with Jey winning and getting Jimmy back. Or if the heel shtick is working, you can keep Jimmy bad and have Jey continue as being a good guy on his own and see if he gets anywhere. You can always bring them back together later.

[VSG]

Expect a Lock Jaw rep for that USSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO storyline.

[#1-norm-fan]

Here's the thing with Stowman...

I had this thought when I had the idea for a female Brock Lesnar-type to come in and be the fucking unbeatable beast that brings all other divas up. If she goes through NXT and does the typical run... she's human. Since NXT is no longer a "hidden" development brand, everything is pretty much part of the whole system. It's tougher to have someone just be competitive there and then come to the main roster and be UNSTOPPABLE.

I feel the same way about Stowman. If they have confidence in him, this is for the best. With FCW, you could let him go through the motions and then bring him to the main roster fresh. That's not an option with NXT now. If they had confidence in him, this was the way to do it. Especially since he's got a backstory related to sister Abigail. Now he seems legitimately like some rogue guy that Bray just introduced us to and not some guy who was from Bray's past who "Had to work his way through the ranks to get here" for some weird reason.

[Simple Fan]

I like the new Wyatt being someone new that hasn't even competed on NXT. It breaks the mold of everyone needs to go through NXT. I believe this was the best way to go instead of bringing in Leo Kruger, Rowan, Uso, or someone else repackaged.

[#1-norm-fan]

Not only that but if he doesn't work out as planned, throw him back to NXT, try to fix what didn't work, then bring him back repackaged and you're pretty much in the same spot you would have been anyway.

If he DOES work out, you accomplished something that an NXT run would have ruined from the get-go. Like I said, he's got a background at the moment that doesn't fit with the "worked his way up through the rasslin' ranks" story.

[hb2k]

This Stowman thing could go either way. I know this seems like a ridiculous comparison, but I immediately though of Zeus when they did that angle yesterday. Stand there, no sell, do little. He hit a cool move which is more than Zeus did, but still. Cool we have a monster, could get over, but less is more with this dude. Hope they remember that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just don't think he looked scary enough. He's legitimately strong, but he just doesn't scream "intense" enough yet.

[Mr. Nerfect]

But you're right -- you can't have this guy taking arm drags in the second match, as Jim Cornette would put it.

[#1-norm-fan]

Jim Cornette knows his shit.

[Damian Rey]

Watching the hulu replay, out comes Heyman and Lesnar, and fuck me Byron Saxton sucks so much balls. I was mentioning in another thread how scripted and generally force fed Michael Cole sounds, but Saxton is miles worse. Why is he on the show?

[Simple Fan]

Hope Stowman is booked as this monster of the Wyatt's and eventually could have Bray be the one to actually stop him. Could be Brays face turn if Stowman can get over enough with the Wyatt family and persuaded Harper to join him and leave Bray. Then have Rowan return to team with face Wyatt.

[Jura]

What if they had Sting all in bronze so when they lifted the fabric up you'd still think it was the statue until you see his face and he started moving.

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[Damian Rey]

That sounds awesome actually. It'd be the next step after he showed up on the tron and JBL claimed it was only a photo.

[Simple Fan]

The Bronze Stinger, sounds like Surfer Sting got a spay on tan.

[Sepholio]

Stone Cold should have been in the box. Middle fingers, stunner, BBQ Sauce.

He stopped Vince, he can stop Vince's successors.

Then show Vince in the back eating some cake and his mouth just drops open in shock as he sees this on the screen and Raw comes to a close.

Woulda been a cool thing to do on Vince's birthday.

[Damian Rey]

So I'm watching the Cena/Stewart segment, which is gold by the way, and yeah, Cena comes off as a complete bullyagainst Stewart. The explanation given was genuine, the apology and acceptance of wrong doing was genuine, and while it's a inherited risk by putting your hands on an athlete, Stewart was clearly remorseful in a way not comparable to a manager like Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Hart, etc

[Sepholio]

Cena heel turn confirmed.

[NormanSmiley]

Depending on what happens with Lesnar, if he angrily "goes home" because of the bullshit finish to his match, Taker joining The Shield against The Wyatts could be a thing. He wouldn't have to work too much in a 6-man and you'd add another major name to a B-level PPV card that's already SummerSlam worthy.



Are you fucking retarded? Jesus it took some balls for you to call me a bad poster especially when you present an idea not only stupid, but that makes no fucking sense from a storyline aspect. It's almost like you don't pay attention to things then type out horrendous ideas, then insult people cause they think your stupid idea was stupid. And this is a king shit level of a stupid idea.

[Damian Rey]

Lol if only. People would cheer him. Feel the only way heel Cena would ever work is to have him be a complete corporate sell out who shills his own merch, and turns the hustle, loyalty and respect gimmick into a parody of his current self.

[Damian Rey]

Btw, #LoveSteph'sBreastsThisEvening

[Sepholio]

Yea I have a feeling they had to do a lot of last minute editing to RAWs script because of how bad Undertaker looked when he was leaving the ring at SS. If I recall, wasn't he supposed to be at RAW? I dunno, but I think he will be taking a hiatus for a while now.

[NormanSmiley]

Jim Cornette knows his shit.


you finally say one quality redeemable thing, you just went up a level in my book, you are now at level 1

[Corkscrewed]

So is it Braun Stowman or Braun Strowman? Cuz WWE added an 'R' in their media.

[Poit]

So, JBL said the Dudleys have won 24 world tag team championships between them, 9 of which were the WWE Tag Team Championship. I'm looking at their Wikipedia page, but it's just not adding up.

WWE - 9
WCW - 1
ECW - 8
IWGP - 2
NWA - 1
TNA - 2

That's only 23. They've won two other random tag team championships in smaller promotions, but those definitely aren't world tag team championships.

Did one of them win a tag championship with someone else?

[drave]

So is it Braun Stowman or Braun Strowman? Cuz WWE added an 'R' in their media.

He was a Rose Bud, nearly every week.

Per WWE, there is a R in StRowman.

[NormanSmiley]

he is probably counting their reign they are about to get when they win the titles asap. dont think about it too much

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The more I think about it...shouldn't all of the Wyatt Family members have Wyatt as their surname? I know when Bryan joined for a brief period of time Bray kept referring to him as "Daniel Wyatt"

Bray Wyatt
Luke Wyatt
Braun Wyatt
Erick Wyatt
Baron Wyatt :shifty:

Dunno...just feel like it makes them seem like a true group of evil backwoods hillbillies if they all took Bray's name. It doesn't have to be played off like they're actually related, they're just so brainwashed by Bray that they think they are. Once somebody "leaves the family" is when they take on their "real" name.</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

So, JBL said the Dudleys have won 24 world tag team championships between them, 9 of which were the WWE Tag Team Championship. I'm looking at their Wikipedia page, but it's just not adding up.

WWE - 9
WCW - 1
ECW - 8
IWGP - 2
NWA - 1
TNA - 2

That's only 23. They've won two other random tag team championships in smaller promotions, but those definitely aren't world tag team championships.

Did one of them win a tag championship with someone else?

Nah. I think WWE are recognizing one of the 2 minor promotion runs they had, probably due to whichever it was (<SUP>2</SUP>CW or Hustle) being affiliated in some way with TNA at the time they won whichever belts. That's about the only explanation that makes sense in my mind.

[#1-norm-fan]

stuff

Make that thread calling out that majority of posters who think Bret Hart's matches suck, Corky. Angry words to make yourself feel superior won't redeem you. Only that will.

[Savio]

Hey cool, 2CW is a promotion up here. Good from them on landing the dudleys for a short time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<font color=goldenrod>The more I think about it...shouldn't all of the Wyatt Family members have Wyatt as their surname? I know when Bryan joined for a brief period of time Bray kept referring to him as "Daniel Wyatt"

Bray Wyatt
Luke Wyatt
Braun Wyatt
Erick Wyatt
Baron Wyatt :shifty:

Dunno...just feel like it makes them seem like a true group of evil backwoods hillbillies if they all took Bray's name. It doesn't have to be played off like they're actually related, they're just so brainwashed by Bray that they think they are. Once somebody "leaves the family" is when they take on their "real" name.</font>

I'm not really a big fan of that, as I feel they should be family symbolically.

[Evil Vito]

I'm not really a big fan of that, as I feel they should be family symbolically.

<font color=goldenrod>Well, the idea would be that they're not truly related but all of the members are so brainwashed that they accept the Wyatt name. I think that's what they were going with when they had Daniel Wyatt, at least.

Then again it's probably because I was playing GTA5 earlier and just found it funny when you went to go kill all of the O'Neill brothers: Elwood, Ernie, Earl, Walton, Wynn, Dale, Doyle, Daryl, Dan</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

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[GD]

Dean Ambrose, Eric Bischoff, and Chris Benoit.

[loopydate]

I watched the Hulu version of this yesterday. First Raw I've watched in six months. Pretty entertaining. I enjoyed the Dudleys/Sting surprises and the Cena/Stewart/Flair segment (even though I'm with the Cena-was-a-dick crowd, it was still a fun bit of television). Pretty telling that they cut out all the "Divas Revolution" stuff but included the 8-man tag and seemingly every video package from the show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<font color=goldenrod>Well, the idea would be that they're not truly related but all of the members are so brainwashed that they accept the Wyatt name. I think that's what they were going with when they had Daniel Wyatt, at least.

Then again it's probably because I was playing GTA5 earlier and just found it funny when you went to go kill all of the O'Neill brothers: Elwood, Ernie, Earl, Walton, Wynn, Dale, Doyle, Daryl, Dan</font>

I get what you're saying, but it just doesn't work for me. I didn't like the "Daniel Wyatt" stuff either. Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Daniel Bryan -- just let them keep their own names. The only way I'd like to see it is if someone got a complete overhaul to get remade in Bray Wyatt's image. But that's just my opinion.

[NormanSmiley]

Depending on what happens with Lesnar, if he angrily "goes home" because of the bullshit finish to his match, Taker joining The Shield against The Wyatts could be a thing. He wouldn't have to work too much in a 6-man and you'd add another major name to a B-level PPV card that's already SummerSlam worthy.

Still cannot believe you typed out an idea this fucking stupid. Shit for brains hillbilly

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don't really think The Undertaker joining Ambrose & Reigns against The Wyatts is that stupid... I had a Lesnar, Undertaker & Reigns vs. Wyatt, Harper & Ambrose program mapped out in my mind that would have culminated at Hell in a Cell.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't know, Noid. If Taker is feeling up to putting in some more dates and they don't wanna push this weird quasi-heel turn he's flirting with, it could still work. Reigns and Ambrose look at him as the one guy who could even up the sides against the three of them. Taker says "no" because "fuck the Shield" but eventually Wyatt makes the wrong comment about how even Taker is afraid of Stowman and that's enough to get him to fight.

[Lock Jaw]

Taker could be the man to finally take down Strowman as he discovers his weakness is also getting hit in the nuts.

[#1-norm-fan]

Only took him about a quarter of a decade to discover kicking people in the nuts is more effective than most things.

[NormanSmiley]

Don't really think The Undertaker joining Ambrose & Reigns against The Wyatts is that stupid... I had a Lesnar, Undertaker & Reigns vs. Wyatt, Harper & Ambrose program mapped out in my mind that would have culminated at Hell in a Cell.

Why not just bring back the lethal lottery for survivor series have the shockmaster join the shield with taker and have paul roma reform the four horsemen with himself as leader. All #1wwffag concepts

[Gerard]

Is there some type of requirement that to be in the wyatt family you need to have a thinning hairline and a beard? Harper has a bald spot and is thinning at the front, Bray is thinning noticeably, and that new guy looks to have thinning hair. :wtf:

[DAMN iNATOR]

The beard thing is definitely a must. Dunno about the thinning hairline, though...I don't think DB had a thinning hairline while he was with them as "Daniel Wyatt".

[Lock Jaw]

There are rumours again of bringing in someone to play Sister Abigail.... but it will be tough to find a bearded lady who also has thinning hair....

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think we need a "real" Sister Abigail. I was listening to Kevin Sullivan talk recently, and he used to reference this person (forgotten the name). Sullivan never wanted to bring in anybody to play the role, because in your head you've already formed a picture.

The ONLY person I could have seen pulling it off was Abigail J. Lee. And she may not have been the real one, and more someone just playing the role for Bray at that point in time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Leva Bates would have a lot of fun with the role, I bet. Maybe Alexa Bliss beats the shit out of her, we never see her again, and "Sister Abigail" ends up on the main roster?

[#1-norm-fan]

The ONLY person I could have seen pulling it off was Abigail J. Lee. And she may not have been the real one, and more someone just playing the role for Bray at that point in time.

I had an idea after Bray interrupted that Ambrose-Rollins HIAC match with the "Sister Abigail hologram" where we would get a real sister Abigail (Though it would have involved Punk coming back... which I feel like the promise of halfway decent writing would have done). Bray would explain why he targeted Ambrose with "She ran off to be with you." I imagined it would have been a Romeo and Juliet situation where both families were against it but they ran off together anyway. After the relationship went south, Ambrose went crazy and found his new family in The Shield before losing them and becoming the "lunatic fringe" again. Abigail is still lost. Bray is out for revenge.

After Bray wins that feud, CM Punk comes out and tells Bray to forget about Abigail. "Plastic surgery should have been enough but you're still looking..."

That's when the reveal happens and we get Abigail James Lee at ringside for a WrestleMania match between Bray Wyatt and Sister Abigail's new husband, CM Punk so that she can settle it all and live her new life in peace.

[DAMN iNATOR]

There are rumours again of bringing in someone to play Sister Abigail.... but it will be tough to find a bearded lady who also has thinning hair....

Chyna? :shifty:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Shared these thoughts earlier in Casual wrestlung thread, but for those who don't peruse Casual much/at all, here it is:

So I finally was able to check out the Women's match from NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn this past weekend via YT and found myself rendered completely speechless.

The one thing that completely caught me off-guard (and I'm not embellishing here, it actually happened) was that I was reacting the way any fans would during the course of the match, but when Bayley finally got the 3-count and her music started up, I just spontaneously wept what I can only imagine must have been tears of joy for her finally accomplishing the first of what will hopefully be many fulfilled dreams.

Definitely weird for me, because since the departure/dismissal of J.R., it has been a very rare occasion where a match can actually make me feel that much...it was just crazy. I don't think I was that emotional even when Daniel Bryan captured the WWE WHC @ WM XXX.

[NormanSmiley]

I had an idea after Bray interrupted that Ambrose-Rollins HIAC match with the "Sister Abigail hologram" where we would get a real sister Abigail (Though it would have involved Punk coming back... which I feel like the promise of halfway decent writing would have done). Bray would explain why he targeted Ambrose with "She ran off to be with you." I imagined it would have been a Romeo and Juliet situation where both families were against it but they ran off together anyway. After the relationship went south, Ambrose went crazy and found his new family in The Shield before losing them and becoming the "lunatic fringe" again. Abigail is still lost. Bray is out for revenge.

After Bray wins that feud, CM Punk comes out and tells Bray to forget about Abigail. "Plastic surgery should have been enough but you're still looking..."

That's when the reveal happens and we get Abigail James Lee at ringside for a WrestleMania match between Bray Wyatt and Sister Abigail's new husband, CM Punk so that she can settle it all and live her new life in peace.

For fucks sake just stop having ideas. And if you are going to type them.out please wait to do your drugs after you post your fantasy booking material. Fucking crackhead.

[NormanSmiley]

Shared these thoughts earlier in Casual wrestlung thread, but for those who don't peruse Casual much/at all, here it is:


So basically you are crying over a girl match. Emo bitch

[Mr. Nerfect]

I had an idea after Bray interrupted that Ambrose-Rollins HIAC match with the "Sister Abigail hologram" where we would get a real sister Abigail (Though it would have involved Punk coming back... which I feel like the promise of halfway decent writing would have done). Bray would explain why he targeted Ambrose with "She ran off to be with you." I imagined it would have been a Romeo and Juliet situation where both families were against it but they ran off together anyway. After the relationship went south, Ambrose went crazy and found his new family in The Shield before losing them and becoming the "lunatic fringe" again. Abigail is still lost. Bray is out for revenge.

After Bray wins that feud, CM Punk comes out and tells Bray to forget about Abigail. "Plastic surgery should have been enough but you're still looking..."

That's when the reveal happens and we get Abigail James Lee at ringside for a WrestleMania match between Bray Wyatt and Sister Abigail's new husband, CM Punk so that she can settle it all and live her new life in peace.

Not sure if I'd go with that myself, as I liked the idea of Bray Wyatt targeting Dean Ambrose due to The Authority pointing Wyatt in that direction. I never got around to really giving much thought as to who would be pulling whose strings; but I imagine it eventually would have come out that Triple H always had The Wyatt Family as his true heel team, eventually leading to Bray becoming too dangerous to handle anymore.

I would have put Ambrose over in that Hell in a Cell match against Rollins though. They tried to explain away the loss, but I think the fans needed to have their faith in Ambrose rewarded with a big PPV win in the main event there. Ambrose would win cleanly, thus getting a measure of revenge against Rollins (explaining why he becomes so easily distracted by Wyatt moving forward), but as Ambrose is celebrating you'd cut the feed to a final message from Bray Wyatt, hinting that he'd be returning on RAW. There's your hook to tune in; plus it's something different for a PPV. It makes Wyatt seem like a big deal (as he gets to technically close out the show), plus you have your youngest main event in years.

[DAMN iNATOR]

So basically you are crying over a girl match. Emo bitch

Nah, not really was only a couple of seconds. But, hey, I'm secure enough in myself to be myself and let my emotions show because I'm not afraid to be me. #That'sHowIRoll :y:

P.S. - Please learn how to B.A. Star.

[NormanSmiley]

You should keep some things to yourself

[ron the dial]

you should heed your own advice

[NormanSmiley]

You crying too?

[ron the dial]

I DON'T GET CRY

I STAY CRY

[DAMN iNATOR]

I DON'T GET CRY

I STAY CRY

LOL, Awesome. This place definitely needs to vote you King again before you end up "retired". :D:lol:

You should keep some things to yourself

Nah, that's not me. I, like a few others here tend to be an open book. Life's too short for any of us not to be, IMHO.

[NormanSmiley]

Thank you for filling me in on your homo opinion. I thought I would drop a tear for randy when he passed. But didnt happen. Maybe I will when we lose bobby the brain

[NormanSmiley]

Inator thanks for the green dot, it was for nothing though,now fan is upset that I called you a homo. Its ok for him to be a pedo into young boys but apparently he feels strongly about me calling you a homosexual.go figure

[#1-norm-fan]

I got your back, DAMN iNATOR. 28 days. Gonna clear this place of all this disgusting homophobia, racism and sexism in one punch.

[Lock Jaw]

What happens on that day?

[#1-norm-fan]

Pain

[Damian Rey]

Are you gonna finish the match with your signature move, FANFARE?

[#1-norm-fan]

Out of nowhere.

[Damian Rey]

Don't forget your top rope finish, the CEILING FAN. Be a nice false finish spot.

[NormanSmiley]

No sell

[DAMN iNATOR]

Out of nowhere.

I hope Michael Cole calls it a "VINTAGE!" move.

[Damian Rey]

FOR THE WIN!

[DAMN iNATOR]

DIDHEGETHIMHEGOTHI--NO! KICKOUT AT 2!