Grand Jury Finally Charges Jimmy Snuka with 3rd Degree Murder

[Innovator]

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2015/09/da_annoucing_results_of_invest.html

32 years later

[road doggy dogg]

opps just posted this in 100k

so embarrassed

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Welp...I suppose Snuka will be the next one wiped out of the history books.</font>

[Big Vic]

Meh, 3rd degree murder ain't so bad.

[Cool King]

Three weeks ago:

It was Jimmy Snuka that got away with murder, brah.

he hasn't got away with it yet

I think it's safe to say he did, seeing how it's been 22 years since it's happenned. Shit, he didn't even pay her family a dime.

Time means nothing these days.

Over here in the UK, a bunch of television personalities from the 70's are just now being caught and prosecuted for being paedos back in the day.

It's taken around 40 years, but they're finally being caught.

The only way I can see Snuka getting away with it, is if he pulls a "Jimmy Savile" and dies before ever being caught.

Looks like I was wrong too.

[slik]

So it turns out wrestlers from the 1980's might all be "bad people" or w/e

Except for Tugboat. Holdin' out hope for the 'Boat.

[Innovator]

As long as John Tenta doesn't turn out to be a pedophile

[Shadrick]

Wasn't there an urban legend that Vince walked into a police station, and walked out with Jimmy Snuka, implying that he paid someone off?

[NormanSmiley]

As long as John Tenta doesn't turn out to be a pedophile


Pretty sure john tenta is never going to turn out to be anything but still dead in the future

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

3rd degree murder is just so they can avoid statute of limitation discussions. It was an accidental drug overdose.

[Nicky Fives]

cocaine is a Hell of a drug.....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

John Tenta was actually fucking amazing until he was in WCW

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Was watching Bash at the Beach 1996 earlier and saw John Tenta wrestling with half of his hair shaved off. That poor man.</font>

[Mercenary]

So how soon do they fire Tamina now?

[NormanSmiley]

So how soon do they fire Tamina now?



hopefully quick, and the other two in her gang

[Mercenary]

hopefully quick, and the other two in her gang

You leave Sasha alone damn it!

[ClockShot]

Was gonna say is Tamina gonna take a leave or absence or get written off for a little whle because of this?

[Emperor Smeat]

More interested to see if the stuff involving Vince ends up being true or not.


Was gonna say is Tamina gonna take a leave or absence or get written off for a little whle because of this?

Probably not. Knowing the WWE, they'd just drop all Snuka references in her name or change her finisher to not be a tribute to him.

[KIRA]

AAAANNND here we are....32 yrs later wasn't Vince supposed to be involved in this somehow?

[Bad News Gertner]

I said this years ago.

Vince Mcmahon is fucked by the way.

[JimmyMess]

does this mean Hogan can fly under the radar now and go back to WWE. har har har.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol he's the least of their concerns. Vince is going to jail.

[NormanSmiley]

Worst case vince bribed someone who is likely dead now and cant testify. And what are the statute of limitations on a bribe? Vince is safe

[Bad News Gertner]

Jimmy Snuka could testify against Vince. It's not like Vince didn't rub the government's nose in it after he got off his steroid charge or anything.

Depends of the statute of limitations though like Norm said.

[Bad News Gertner]

Couldn't Vince be charged with obstruction as well?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

yeah it's interesting. As much as Snuka could testify against Vince, it'd be pretty easy for Vince's team of lawyers to assassinate the credibility of an aged, washed up has been crack head murderer.

[slik]

Vince will be fine. Even if he did do anything wrong he has the funds for a legal team to prevent the case from being formed -- should there ever even be evidence Vince did anything in the first place.

Snuka doesn't sound in shape to testify nor do I think he would.

[NormanSmiley]

if i'm vince and snuka draws money for me at the time , I go and bribe the coroner and/or the cop first. then I bail jimmy out. snuka never knows therefore his testimony against vince is shit. snuka just thinks he is in debt to vince for getting him out of jail

[slik]

If Vince had really done anything wrong it would have come to light during his Steroid trial and/or Linda's political runs.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I couldn't imagine Jimmy living that much longer with this kind of stress on an already abused heart.

[Seth82]

Vince told Snuka to act duumb and play the part of the savage islander.

also there are no statute of limitations when murder is involved.

Her family will finally get some closure after 32 years.

[NormanSmiley]

joe paterno syndrome. he will die soon, no mention on wwe

[NormanSmiley]

also there are no statute of limitations when murder is involved.

.



that's cool, the topic was vince going to jail for involvement, vince didn't kill her. so statute of limitations convo was about bribes etc

[Seth82]

that's cool, the topic was vince going to jail for involvement, vince didn't kill her. so statute of limitations convo was about bribes etc

could be interesting if it is revealed he bribed them.

this was in Snuka's own book btw.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN2RZu3UkAY5cvW.png:large

[NormanSmiley]

the timeline would be a little iffy though. this is may of 83 when the shitshow starts, snuka is current wrestler of the year, anyone know how well he is drawing or how the company is doing?


the conventional story is leading up to mania in march of 85 vince has all his money tied up in that and would he have any to spare to pay off her fam?


sometime in 85 the court awards her family 500k and snuka never pays, maybe vince paid them off after that when he was flush with mania payoff cash

[Bad News Gertner]

the timeline would be a little iffy though. this is may of 83 when the shitshow starts, snuka is current wrestler of the year, anyone know how well he is drawing or how the company is doing?


the conventional story is leading up to mania in march of 85 vince has all his money tied up in that and would he have any to spare to pay off her fam?


sometime in 85 the court awards her family 500k and snuka never pays, maybe vince paid them off after that when he was flush with mania payoff cash

Snuka was the most over wrestler in the company in 83. Like Hogan in 84 over. The company is in transition. Vince started making big moves in late 83 with Hogan, Piper, Orndorff coming in, plus expanding into new markets. Snuka was vital to the company. Vince HAD to keep Snuka out of jail.

[Bad News Gertner]

Don Muraco had a very odd reaction during his Timeline WWF 1983 DVD that I own. You could tell he knew something.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't normally comment on wrestling tragedies, but if Snuka did kill Nancy Argentino, it's about time he faces the consequences for it. Unfortunately it comes at a bad time towards the end of Snuka's life, but he had to know this day was coming.

[NormanSmiley]

Don Muraco had a very odd reaction during his Timeline WWF 1983 DVD that I own. You could tell he knew something.



odd in the sense like he was clued in on something by Snuka or McMahon personally, or was it more like, all the boys knew he did it just from how we knew him to be?

[Bad News Gertner]

By Snuka. I'll post the clip once I get home. It's VERY interesting. It wasn't the first time Snuka had gotten physical with Nancy. It actually happened quite recently before her death.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm really intrigued by that clip.

[NormanSmiley]

Ill post you tons of white rep dots for showing the vid. What I didnt know about this story was snuka was married during all this

[Bad News Gertner]

Gimme 10 minutes. Just walking in.

[NormanSmiley]

At least pet the dog and feed the goldfish first. These assholes can wait

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol ok. So below is a trailer for the Timeline 1983 Don Muraco DVD that I bought like 4 years ago. I hadn't even heard of the Snuka incident prior to watching this. I just couldn't believe how this just went away. Anyways, like i said, it's a clip, not the full interview, but check out Muraco's reaction when questioned about it. Pretty interesting. SOMETHING happened. I can't say 100% for sure, but there's definitely a lot more to this story.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_gAZLqVzG14" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's pretty widely recognized that Snuka had a lot of issues, and as the night would go on he'd reach a "crazy place." Even without any sort of evidence, I can imagine a lot of the boys would have felt uncomfortable about her death.

[#1-norm-fan]

Vince told Snuka to act duumb and play the part of the savage islander.

Seems like the worst murder defense imaginable. lol

[NormanSmiley]

I would think alot of the boys would feel more uncomfortable if vince helped cover it up. Too many guys have burned their bridge with vince and would have went public with that info if it was common knowledge.

[Mercenary]

Good news this murderer is still in WWE HOF ......

[Anybody Thrilla]

Muraco literally said in that video "whatever the statements say" as his response. That's a dead giveaway that something was up there to me.

[Seth82]

this is a rather interesting tidbit from Irv Muchnick's book on the case

http://i.imgur.com/X6bZ1uB.png
http://i.imgur.com/rXqRYuJ.png

[Mr. Nerfect]

There's a difference between being suspicious of a situation and having actual knowledge. Plus, if Buddy Rogers witnessed Snuka making out with a corpse, I can imagine that Snuka didn't have the most...sane reputation.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

this is a rather interesting tidbit from Irv Muchnick's book on the case

http://i.imgur.com/X6bZ1uB.png
http://i.imgur.com/rXqRYuJ.png

Jesus Christ that is so fucked up lol

[NormanSmiley]

He wrestled barefoot, sandals is quite a step up from walking down the aisle with no shoes. What you mean "pretending" he didn't speak english, she never saw a snuka interview. He was no good with the American language

[road doggy dogg]

Muraco literally said in that video "whatever the statements say" as his response. That's a dead giveaway that something was up there to me.

lmao yeah that was the exact thing I noticed, seems pretty sketchy

[Gerard]

Seems like the worst murder defense imaginable. lol

Sukas defense attorney.

https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/629ef15b6a19099ef6a2b8010178a4c2/5255%20-%20kamala%20wwe.png?

[Mercenary]

Sukas defense attorney.

https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/629ef15b6a19099ef6a2b8010178a4c2/5255%20-%20kamala%20wwe.png?


So you are saying it doesn't have a leg to stand on?

[DAMN iNATOR]

I thought he'd hire THESE guys:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101202002236/prowrestling/images/2/29/WWE_Wild_Samoans.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE gave Snuka the "Hogan" treatment by removing his profile from their official Hall of Fame website.

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame

[Blue Demon]

Maybe being smashed over the head by a coconut made him crazy.

[NormanSmiley]

Maybe this hall of fame thing isnt such a good idea

[road doggy dogg]

more like hall of SHAME amirite

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Hall of lame

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hall of Game

-WWE HOF as reimagined by James Steele</font>

[KIRA]

<font color=goldenrod>Hall of Game

-WWE HOF as reimagined by James Steele</font>

Yep each year would be dedicated to giving Trple H larger ceremonies and even more garish awards.

HOF is gonna be empty at this rate since the WWE assumes all their inductees carry themselves like saints or that their past deeds will remain in the past.

[Emperor Smeat]

Looks like Snuka is getting the full Hogan treatment with getting scrubbed out of a lot of stuff.

Jimmy Snuka's non-wrestling 'legends' contract has been suspended and we are currently removing his images from our media platforms pending the outcome of this case.

[Shadrick]

Yep each year would be dedicated to giving Trple H larger ceremonies and even more garish awards.

HOF is gonna be empty at this rate since the WWE assumes all their inductees carry themselves like saints or that their past deeds will remain in the past.

I don't think they need to act like "saints" but as a publically traded company with a hall of fame that's completely subjective, distancing themselves from certain things make perfect sense...and certain "deeds" are a little more undertandable and tolerable than others...

[DAMN iNATOR]

I just get the odd feeling that whether Snuka is actually guilty or not that there's such a huge chance that a lot of the prosecution's case may rest on circumstantial evidence and possibly witnesses called that may not be completely credible after 32 long years, that any Grand Jury in the land might well find themselves hard pressed not to return a not guilty verdict or to not return from deliberations as a hung jury.

I'm not saying I know exactly what evidence and witnesses and possibly experts might be shown by the defense and the prosecution. I'm saying IMHO that I think from the outset of the trial the huge burden of proof will rest squarely on the prosecution's shoulders. I could be wrong. But one thing I do know is this: it will be one HELL of an intriguing trial.

[Innovator]

There's a reason why a cold case gets reopened after 30+ years, and it usually isn't circumstantial evidence.

[Bad News Gertner]

I just get the odd feeling that whether Snuka is actually guilty or not that there's such a huge chance that a lot of the prosecution's case may rest on circumstantial evidence and possibly witnesses called that may not be completely credible after 32 long years, that any Grand Jury in the land might well find themselves hard pressed not to return a not guilty verdict or to not return from deliberations as a hung jury.

I'm not saying I know exactly what evidence and witnesses and possibly experts might be shown by the defense and the prosecution. I'm saying IMHO that I think from the outset of the trial the huge burden of proof will rest squarely on the prosecution's shoulders. I could be wrong. But one thing I do know is this: it will be one HELL of an intriguing trial.

Just stop.

[loopydate]

I don't think they need to act like "saints" but as a publically traded company with a hall of fame that's completely subjective, distancing themselves from certain things make perfect sense...and certain "deeds" are a little more undertandable and intolerable than others...

Yeah there's a difference between "saints" and "suspected murderers."

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was listening to Court Bauer's podcast, and he said he talked to some legal people, and they said it might be a hard case to make. That being said, I can't see it being re-opened without there being more to this.

I mean, the death was declared a homicide, and there was a history of abuse on this woman. If abuse killed her? Fuck, I'd probably come down as guilty if I were in the jury. I mean, who else was abusing Jimmy Snuka's girlfriend besides Jimmy Snuka?

I'm intrigued to see how this affects Vince McMahon, to be honest. I know he's a grandfather and a human being and all that, but if he helped to cover this up? Fuck again.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And the thing is this: There's no big surprise here. The most shocking thing about it is that someone finally said "Wait, this is fucked" and are doing something about it. The WWE inducted Snuka into the Hall of Fame knowing too well who he was and what he was about.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just stop.

Stop what? Expressing my honest opinion? :wtf:

[Theo Dious]

I mean, the death was declared a homicide, and there was a history of abuse on this woman. If abuse killed her? Fuck, I'd probably come down as guilty if I were in the jury. I mean, who else was abusing Jimmy Snuka's girlfriend besides Jimmy Snuka?

Jesus H Fucking Christ I hope you are never on a jury. Please if you ever get called let us know so we can get this quote to them.

[Theo Dious]

Looks like Snuka is getting the full Hogan treatment with getting scrubbed out of a lot of stuff.

I thought this was called the "Benoit Treatment." Benoit jobbing to Hogan now? :nono:

[Shisen Kopf]

Snuka should have a coconut smashed over his head every day while he is in jail.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Stop what? Expressing my honest opinion? :wtf:

#nationofdamnation4lyfe

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jesus H Fucking Christ I hope you are never on a jury. Please if you ever get called let us know so we can get this quote to them.

I worded this poorly, granted. What I meant was that Snuka is not going to come across as sympathetic if the link between abuse and it being a causal factor in Nancy Argentino's death is established.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I thought this was called the "Benoit Treatment." Benoit jobbing to Hogan now? :nono:

Benoit wasn't put in the HoF before doing what he did, so there is a pretty major difference.

[Theo Dious]

I worded this poorly, granted. What I meant was that Snuka is not going to come across as sympathetic if the link between abuse and it being a causal factor in Nancy Argentino's death is established.

That makes sense then.

[Theo Dious]

Benoit wasn't put in the HoF before doing what he did, so there is a pretty major difference.

Ehh HoF or no HoF Benoit was the precedent of guys being scrubbed from WWE's official memory to protect the company.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I do wonder how this will affect Tamina's standing with the company. On one hand, it isn't fair to fire her because of the issues surrounding her father, but on the other you don't want to remind people of Jimmy Snuka during this. There's that and she sort of sucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't mean that cruelly. But she's still got a long way to go.

[Sixx]

Heh. So WWE released him cause he got arrested, even though they knew damn well (for 32 years) he kept slamming her head against furniture until she died. Classic.