NCAA Football & Basketball Thread

[Simple Fan]

Haven't seen a college football thread and don't know if a lot of people even watch it but if you do here's the place to talk about it. The season kicked off last night as Michigan lost to Utah in Harboughs return to the college game. #2TCU was winning last I saw against Minnesota.

My favorite team is the Louisville Cardinals, 2nd year in the ACC and they could drop off a bit from last year.

Tell your favorite team and how you think they will do this season to get things going.

[road doggy dogg]

I don't really follow much minor league football but I'm going to try a bit more this year. MSU plays tonight, woo go Spartans

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>UConn beat Villanova. What a powerhouse.</font>

[Simple Fan]

RA SCHOOL POINTS
1. Ohio State (61) 1,525
2. TCU 1,428
3. Alabama 1,322
4. Baylor 1,263
5. Michigan State 1,256
6. Auburn 1,192
7. Oregon 1,156
8. Southern California 1,085
9. Georgia 991
10. Florida State 959
11. Notre Dame 873
12. Clemson 862
13. UCLA 698
14. LSU 675
15. Arizona State 605
16. Georgia Tech 588
17. Mississippi 563
18. Arkansas 410
19. Oklahoma 394
20. Wisconsin 393
21. Stanford 347
22. Arizona 311
23. Boise State 240
24. Missouri 219
25. Tennessee 114
Others receiving votes: Mississippi State 100, Texas A&M 61, Oklahoma State 46, Virginia Tech 42, Utah 36, Penn State 20, Louisville 12, Cincinnati 8, Nebraska 6, Kansas State 5, Florida 4, NC State 4, Texas 3, Michigan 2, BYU 2, Northern Illinois 2, Western Kentucky 1, California 1, West Virginia 1.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I don't really follow much minor league football but I'm going to try a bit more this year. MSU plays tonight, woo go Spartans

SPARTANS, FUCK YEAH! They get tested by Oregon next week I believe it is.

[Simple Fan]

21 Stanford upset by Northwestern 16-6.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville and Auburn kicking off.

[Simple Fan]

And with 2 QBs on the field they throw a interception on the first damn play.

[Simple Fan]

Damn, lost 24-31 if not for a botched handoff in the first half that got taken back for a TD might have been a different outcome. But Lamar Jackson is going to be a star.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Pay them salaries.

[Simple Fan]

Why they are college students? Did you get a salary in college? They go to school for free what more do they need?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

They don't all go to school free. Nor are they given enough time to actually benefit from school. Big Ben graduated like 10 years after his college football days were over.

[Droford]

I'm rooting for Wisconsin to pound Alabama but even if Bama loses they'll still probably be in the playoff

[Simple Fan]

That's on him plenty of guys graduate early. Still don't see the point in paying them. If they did pay them they should make them pay tuition with partof their salery. That way it teaches them how to handle money before the get that big money.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The big money is an illusion to keep them from trying to unionize. Only a fraction of them will get anything like it.

[Simple Fan]

Them unionizing is silly to.

[Simple Fan]

BYU beat Nebraska on a hail marry to end the game.

[Nark Order]

PAC-12 looking like hot garbage right now.

[Sepholio]

10 SEC teams in top 25. Most ever.

Nothing ever changes lol

[Nark Order]

My college (Sacramento State) is going to face the Huskies this week. We are going to get shit stomped.

[Simple Fan]

10 SEC teams in top 25. Most ever.

Nothing ever changes lol

Something had to changes if that's the most ever. its just week 1 though the SEC will beat each other up, I dont see them getting 2 teams into the playoff.

[Simple Fan]

Damn. Louisville loses to Houston 34-31. Missed a field goal with 49 seconds left. Freshman QB Jackson just made to many mistakes.

[DAMN iNATOR]

SPARTANS, BITCHES! WOO!!!

[Frank Drebin]

Thank your lucky stars you don't have to play THE NORTHWESTERN WILDCATS this year.

[Clerk]

so stupid how the players would go for degree especially big ben? he's set for life lol no need to still get degree

[Simple Fan]

They're not going to play for life and getting a degree is a lot of peoples goal in life. If someone wants to get a degree that's good for them, its not stupid.

[Clerk]

It's not needed. Ofcourse there not going to play for ever but they are making millions $$ i can live off 1 million dollars supporting me im a full time mma fighter wtf.

[Simple Fan]

Yea they make millions, and slot of them go through it quick taking care of family and friends. Also living extravagant lives and living in big houses and driving fancy cars. Its more of a NBA problem. A lot of kids get there degree in football because they have to stay 3 years before going pro.

[Clerk]

Well I've been in talks with the ufc and bellator about a 2 or 3 fight deal fights will probably be around 30-50k each fight not counting bonuses

[Simple Fan]

Louisville playing Clemson tonight. 3 weeks 3 different starting QBs.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>UConn had the chance to kick a easy FG to go into OT and set up a potentially huge upset in Missouri. Instead they threw it away on a stupid fake FG attempt.

Like I get the whole "nobody expects us to win, so let's go for it now instead of OT" thing, but shit...just call a regular play then. Half of Missouri's defense dropped back as soon as the ball was snapped because they saw the fake coming.</font>

[Droford]

Really want to see Alabama lose

[Simple Fan]

Damn what a play Ole Miss just shit out a touchdown lead 24-10 over Alabama.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ole Miss doing all they can to choke it away.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/22/hysterical-auburn-fan-tammy-from-clanton-has-nuclear-meltdown-on-live-tv-video/

:lol: Saw the highlight of this earlier on one of ESPN's morning shows and couldn't stop laughing.

[DAMN iNATOR]

SPARTANS #2, BABY! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Frank Drebin]

Going to see Northwestern destroy Ball State on Saturday.

[Simple Fan]

Going to see Northwestern destroy Ball State on Saturday.

I'll be going to the Kentucky/Missouri game, probably be the only person in the stadium wearing red.

[Bad News Gertner]

Woooo Spartans. Fuck you Chips!

[Simple Fan]

Pretty cool UK beat Missouri. Love going to UK games in my Louisville gear. Get so many people to react to the red its awesome. Got to see some old friends and one got too drunk and threw up before the game but was ok afterwards.

[Emperor Smeat]

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday upheld a lower court's ruling in the Ed O'Bannon case that the NCAA violated antitrust laws by limiting student-athlete compensation, but also ruled against a plan to pay student-athletes as much as $5,000 annually.

In a split decision, the three-judge panel ruled that U.S. District Court Judge Claudia Wilken's plan -- which would allow schools to pay athletes as much as $5,000 annually, beyond the cost of attendance, for the use of their name, image and likeness -- was "erroneous."

Their main complaints against paying student athletes was a possible bigger legal mess if college sports lost its amateur status and didn't want the favoritism gap between student athletes and regular students to grow any larger.

Schools can still offer some compensation but it has to be as scholarships and not as cash.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/13777916/appeals-court-nixes-plan-play-student-athletes-ed-obannon-case-agrees-ncaa-violates-antitrust-laws

[Simple Fan]

Ehh, I'm not on the pay them annually bandwagon but it seems like its just so the Universities trying to get the players likeness so they can cash in more. If it means the return of NCAA football video games then that would be a plus. Hate it when students athletes get punished for selling off their old jerseys and stuff like that like Ohio State players did a couple years ago. $5000 seems like enough for a scholarship athlete to survive off of for a year.

[Simple Fan]

Lol. Kentucky losing to Eastern Kentucky by 14 with 7 minutes togo. Watching with 2 UK fans and both are mad as hell.

[Simple Fan]

Kentucky won in OT. Guys I was watching with were happy.

[Frank Drebin]

Northwestern V Michigan is gonna be insane.

[ClockShot]

Maryland fires Randy Edsall.


And the State of Connecticut laughs collectively.

[owenbrown]

Lol. Kentucky losing to Eastern Kentucky by 14 with 7 minutes togo. Watching with 2 UK fans and both are mad as hell.

Kentucky won in OT. Guys I was watching with were happy.

They're on pace to do what they did last year... choke in the 2nd half of the season after a great start... they were 5-1 last year before they reached the SEC schedule and got their asses handed to them.

[Simple Fan]

They got a good chance to beat Auburn. Louisville struggled against them and it was close. If Kentucky doesn't turn the ball over they should have a chance.

[owenbrown]

Why the fuck is the Governor's Cup game (UK vs Louisville) so late in the year?

[Simple Fan]

I like it there. But its there as part of the ACC-SEC in state rivalry week at the end of the season. Georgia plays GT, Florida plays FSU, South Carolina plays Clemson, and UK plays Uof L.

[Simple Fan]

USC(Southern Cal) fired Steve Sarkisian. Checked into rehab a few weeks ago on a leave of absence and got fired today.

[Simple Fan]

And the USC on the east coast South Carolina has announced Steve Spurrier is retiring mid season.

[DAMN iNATOR]

SPARTANS WILL, BITCHES! Don't you EVER doubt us again!

#FIGHTSPARTYFIGHT

[Bad News Gertner]

Hey Michigan!!!!

KILLLLLLLLLLLL YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!

Go Green Go White!

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is NOT how to football: <a href="http://t.co/v1DCdKPmFL">http://t.co/v1DCdKPmFL</a> <a href="http://t.co/Q83SFDVxLU">pic.twitter.com/Q83SFDVxLU</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation (@SBNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/655609760088113152">October 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Shisen Kopf]

Lol someone had a heart attack at the end of the michigan game

[Bad News Gertner]

Haha probably a pussy Michigan fan

[Shisen Kopf]

Remember when Dantonio had a heart attack after the Notre Dame game a few years back? What a homo!

[Shisen Kopf]

More importantly, Central Michigan beat the piss outta Buffalo 51-14 wooooooo!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Remember when Dantonio had a heart attack after the Notre Dame game a few years back? What a homo!

IKR? Surprised that damn fairy didn't do it again Saturday. But be that as it may, he's quickly established himself on the MSU Mt. Olympus of men's NCAA Football coaches.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Georgia Southern should somersault on all of it's TDs. <a href="https://t.co/a2N7dQqAlN">pic.twitter.com/a2N7dQqAlN</a></p>&mdash; SB Nation GIF (@SBNationGIF) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBNationGIF/status/657341464620351488">October 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Almost pulled off a Sunset flip Diamond Cutter with how it looked.

[Simple Fan]

At the UK/ Tennessee game. About half drunk, trying to sneak beer in.

[Simple Fan]

Got 4 16oz. Aluminum bottles in. UK lost but, still had a good time.

[Clerk]

How is ohio state not number 1? this makes no sense they have bums who know nothing about football making the ranks its bullshit

[Simple Fan]

Clemson has played better and had a tougher schedule. Ohio State should have been blowing every team they've played out of the water but have struggled on offense this year.

[Simple Fan]

What the hell is up with Missouri. President resigned today and the students are celebrating. I know they're was something racist put on a wall but what the fuck is with the protest. One dude said he wasn't going to eat til something was done. Sounds like a bunch of whining if you ask me. Should have stripped the football players of their scholarships and called the police on the protesters for loitering.

[Simple Fan]

College Basketball starts tonight, figured I'd just make this thread for both football and basketball.

Louisville plays Samford
Kentucky plays Albany

[DAMN iNATOR]

Clemson has played better and had a tougher schedule. Ohio State should have been blowing every team they've played out of the water but have struggled on offense this year.

Don't worry. Spartans will take them down a peg next week. ;):y:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Don't worry. Spartans will take them down a peg next week. ;):y:

Well, well, well...look who was right!

DIWN GO THE BUCKEYES, DOWN GO THE BUCKEYES, DOWN GO THE BUCKEYES!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>UConn bowl eligible. Surprising turnaround this year.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Hotty Toddy

[DAMN iNATOR]

HEY, WE WANT SOME SPARTAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!

[Frank Drebin]

Northwestern would smack that green dick out ya mouf, boiii

[DAMN iNATOR]

Northwestern would smack that green dick out ya mouf, boiii

I guess we'll never know as far as this year. But we got dem ass whoopins to hand out to Penn St. next week and Iowa in the B1G Championship game.

[Bad News Gertner]

Spartans!!!!!!!

[Shisen Kopf]

How many couches are on fire tonight in East Lansing?

[DAMN iNATOR]

How many couches are on fire tonight in East Lansing?

Probably a lot because it's currently 28F with snow showers beginning to exit the area.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gary Patterson is a fucking moron.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

lol Wisconsin. Salty because the refs called the game correctly.

[Tom Guycott]

... fuck Sparty. :'(

[Frank Drebin]

Ohio State had the bestest season ever last year. I think you can deal with "only" going to a NY6 game.

[Simple Fan]

Man hell of a game between Louisville and Kentucky. Kentucky got out to a 21-0 lead and Louisville came back to win 38-24

[Bad News Gertner]

Sparty on bitches!

[Shisen Kopf]

Iowa is gonna win the big 10 wooooo!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Iowa is gonna win the big 10 wooooo!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4340241/nope-o.gif

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Memphis beat SMU 63-0

They were up 56-0 at halftime with Paxton Lynch having thrown 7 TDs on only 9 completions.</font>

[Simple Fan]

Lost their coach though, Justin Fuente replacing Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hope Fuente at least stays with Memphis through the bowl game. Taking a promotion is perfectly fine but I hate when coaches bail right before the biggest game of the season.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Notre Dame</font>

[Simple Fan]

Louisville and Michigan State play Wednesday in basketball should be a good game.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Louisville and Michigan State play Wednesday in basketball should be a good game.

More interested in MSU vs. Iowa in a #1 Contender's match for entry into the NCAA World Heavyweight Championship Fatal-4-Way right now.

[Tom Guycott]

Ohio State had the bestest season ever last year. I think you can deal with "only" going to a NY6 game.

a) Yes, I can. But you know what would make it sit better with me? If they didn't play like absolute garbage against "the OTHER team up north". Their defensive front uncharacteristically shit the bed, being that Ohio State usually boasts a pretty strong D line perenially even when their playmakers on the other side aren't producing. Why they decided to take a nap on the field during the one game in the season that truly mattered* is beyond me.

b) I can, how ever, always take consolation in the fact that Ohio State not only won out last year, but did it against 1- the almighty SEC heroes in Alabamma, and then 2- against Oregon in a game that one season sooner, wouldn't have happened for the National Championship (and I still don't see how they kept voting Florida State as #1... they weren't really that good, even within in the ACC) . Without the playoffs, the two teams that didn't make it would have automatically been playing for the right to be called number one.

c) Unmentioned, but worth adding, I really hope they eventually at least do the 8 team thing. 16 would be ideal, but at least with 8, you can cover the major conference champs, and then have a couple of spots left for "outstanding" or still undefeated teams that may not make the top 4. There wouldn't be room to screw a team just so a Notre Dame can get consideration, or if you get a school on a few season long hot streak like a TCU or a Boisie State have had in the past, and "nobody" wants to play them, so they don't get the proper respect and will never get enough upvotes when onfield play could prove them right more than pundits. Yes, this would have no bearing on the Buckeyes this year, but it would be a better system overall... provided they don't always try to shoehorn extra SEC teams in those spots.



*in the bigger, immediate playoff picture, I meant. Ohio State/Michigan is still "the" game, even if both squads are winless, coaches have lost their jobs on the strength of that rivalry record in spite of managable or marginally successful seasons.

[Droford]

Terps gonna whip the Tar Heels

[Tom Guycott]

More interested in MSU vs. Iowa in a #1 Contender's match for entry into the NCAA World Heavyweight Championship Fatal-4-Way right now.

It was admittedly a slobber-knocker. It literally came down to the wire, and could've gone either way.

[DAMN iNATOR]

SPARTANS!

[Bad News Gertner]

Big Ten fucking champs!

[Droford]

Clemson should win but they wont

[The Condor]

So, Ed McCaffrey's son is awesome. #legacy

[Simple Fan]

Going to the Music City Bowl in Nashville. Louisville vs Texas A&M should be a good game. Going to be the first Louisville game I've ever been to.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville vs Kentucky is today. Feel like Louisville has a good chance of winning this year.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville vs Kentucky is today. Feel like Louisville has a good chance of winning this year.

It was a pretty good game UK won 75-73. Didn't really like the final play Louisville drew up as they went for the win and didn't give enough time for a miss. Still feel that Louisville could have played better and UK was shooting 3s from way deep and making them. Were shooting 29% feom 3 and shot over 50% in the game.

[Simple Fan]

Going to the Music City Bowl in Nashville. Louisville vs Texas A&M should be a good game. Going to be the first Louisville game I've ever been to.

Great game Louisville won 27-21. Nashville's pretty cool to. $9 beer kind of ridiculous, good thing I got 2 16 oz. Bud lights and half pint of Hennessey.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Hope I'm wrong but it feels like the Cotton Bowl is already done at the half. It's only 10-0 but the Bama defense is fucking incredible.</font>

[Vastardikai]

Clemson has a tough row to hoe. Alabama made Michigan St look like chumps. But Clemson has a solid pair of runners. It comes down to who can impose their will on their opponent. Scouts should be keeping their eye on the lines.

[Emperor Smeat]

The decision to hold both semi-finals games for football on New Year's Eve ended up backfiring. That and both games being blowouts.

Compared to last year both games were down by around 30+% for ratings.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/01/01/college-football-playoff-semifinals-take-a-hit-in-year-2/

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Things are already getting weird in the late night game <a href="https://t.co/GMpAUHQNqs">https://t.co/GMpAUHQNqs</a></p>&mdash; Chris B. Brown (@smartfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/683494559301648385">January 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bama win another title. How fucking boring.</font>

[Simple Fan]

Hoping Clemson can mount a comback here and finish what has been a pretty good game so far.

[Simple Fan]

5 point game Clemson needs a big stop on D here.

[Simple Fan]

Damn

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I wish Bama would have a year where they're just straight up terrible but with their recruiting classes it's pretty much impossible.</font>

[Simple Fan]

Sabin would have to go back to the NFL and they make a terrible hire to replace him.

[Simple Fan]

Clemson wont give up, I'll give them that.

[Locke]

Duke fans are "bugging out" because they are about to complete a 6 point comeback against unranked Notre Dame.

[Simple Fan]

Watching that game at the moment, been a pretty good game. Duke always has good white players.

[Locke]

Pflueger on Notre Dame has been the best white player.

[Simple Fan]

Notre Dame won

[Simple Fan]

Pflueger on Notre Dame has been the best white player.

#5 for Duke was pretty good. Luke somthing dont remember his last name.

[Simple Fan]

Season starts tonight. Indiana @ Florida International and South Carolina @ Vanderbilt and Charlotte @ Louiville and Rice @ Western Kentucky.

[Simple Fan]

Tennessee down 13-3 to Appalachian State with 2:00 left in the first half. Louisville up 56-0 on Charlotte.

[BigCrippyZ]

:lol: At people saying Josh Dobbs is a top 10 quarterback.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville's Lamar Jackson is a bad man. Dude had 610 total yards and 6 TD last night against Syracuse. Actually hurdled a guy before scoring one of the TDs.

[Simple Fan]

Has 13 total TDs through 2 games, more than any other FBS team as a whole.. Didn't even play the second half of the first game.

[RP]

I heard he's dating Black Widow too.

[Simple Fan]

Nah, he's black.

[Simple Fan]

Not really to many good games today. Tennessee and Virginia Tech will be play inside Bristol Motor Speedway and is expected to break attendance records with over 150,000 tonight at 8:00 PM EST.

[ClockShot]

Can UConn just foldup the football program now?

Team's down 4 with 17 seconds to go and the coach tried to call a timeout on 2nd and goal............they had none left.

[Simple Fan]

156,990 is the official attendance for the Battle at Bristol which is a record. Tennessee up 24-14 on Virginia Tech with 11:29 Togo in the 3rd quarter.

[Simple Fan]

Can UConn just foldup the football program now?

Team's down 4 with 17 seconds to go and the coach tried to call a timeout on 2nd and goal............they had none left.

Thought UConn would get better with Louisville leaving the AAC but I suppose Houston pretty much took over where the left off. Would really like to see UConn move to either the ACC or Big 10. Would like to see Cincinnati in the ACC as well but feel like the Big 12 will snatch them up.

[ClockShot]

Chatter going around is that UConn is supposed to make a pitch to the Big 10.

[Simple Fan]

Be good for them in basketball. Football not so much but they do seem like they would fit the Big 10. Would put the Big 10 at 15 schools and would probably look to add another to get to 16. ACC has 15 but Notre Dame isn't full time in football.

Big 12 probably try to make a move first. Houston and Cincinnati would put them back to 12 and Cincinnati would put a school a bit closer to West Viginia. Also talk of USF, UCF, and BYU.

[owenbrown]

Colorado's depth chart given to Michigan :lol:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/16/12924784/colorado-michigan-fake-depth-chart-roster

[Simple Fan]

Colorado's depth chart given to Michigan :lol:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/16/12924784/colorado-michigan-fake-depth-chart-roster

Frank Drebin playing cornerback. Elmer Fudd at QB backed up by Danny DeVitto. Pretty funny stuff.

[Simple Fan]

Big game tomorrow, Florida State @ Louisville. Going to be tough but when you got Lamar Jackson you got a chance.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville up 35-10 at the half. Jackson back at it, already has 3 rushing TDs and a passing TD. 17 total TDs in 2 and half games.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville won 63-20 expected a much closeer game. Was 63-10 before the started left the game. Jackson has to be the Hiesman favorite right now.

[Tom Guycott]

I've always liked J.R., but tonight, I hate seeing his ass on that sideline. Especially consoling Mixon after doing that "drop the football before you ACTUALLY score" shit that should have negated that OK score.

I'll be a Jim Ross fan again tomorrow. Go Buckeyes.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Tom Guycott]

Lot of Sooners left laying on the field for trainers' examination tonight.

As for that Louisville/FSU game: Seminoles suck. Not saying that as a hater, but someone who wonders how they keep getting ranked so high and the team they field really hasn't been top ten for years.

You'd think they were in the SEC.

[Tom Guycott]

Also forgot Coach Stoops was a local boy.

[Tom Guycott]

I got a response about FSU (assuming that's who you meant- you left no context)

They got a lot of flukey wins and backdoor victories: they didn't really play like a team that just kept getting magically ranked #1 or #2. And the first year of the playoff system, had it not been in place, they would have automatically gone to get dismantled by Alabama for the National title instead of getting dismantled by Oregon for the right to play an Ohio State team who handed Alabama their ass.

Even as much as I hate the "SEC is better than everybody in perpetuity" argument people make, at least 'Bama played like a top contender consistently. The Seminoles didn't. Being upvoted isn't the same as being good. Being Kings of the ACC is akin to being the whatever-est guy in the room. Ask Boise State how many potential championships they were snubbed out of because they "didn't play anyone" to end up ranked above #5, but FSU can continue to fail their way upwards doing precisely that.

[Simple Fan]

Didn't expect Tennessee to come back against Florida. Fliped it and was watching Duke beat Notre Same. Fliped it back after it was over and Tennessee had erased a 21 pt deficit in one quarter.

[Simple Fan]

LSU fires Les Miles and OC Can Cameron. Ed Orgeron named interm head coach.

[Clerk]

O-H-I-O The Ohio state university sucka! Rank No.2 but we smacked Bama when we played them. With a 3rd string btw. Who is actually a beast tho. Wish the Browns drafted cardale. :)

[Simple Fan]

Damn. Clemson 42 Louisville 36. Was a hell of a game though and really shouldn't hurt Louisville a whole lot.

[poopfromweiner dude]

Will probably hurt them a whole lot the first week of December when they're not playing and a bunch of other 1 loss teams are in their conference 'ship game

[Clerk]

these teams dont matter. O-H-I-O THE Ohio State University gonna win it all baby!!!!! boi you look like a motherafuckin OHHHHHHH

[Simple Fan]

Will probably hurt them a whole lot the first week of December when they're not playing and a bunch of other 1 loss teams are in their conference 'ship game

Only dropped to 7 with a fairly easy schedule. Have a big matchup with Houston at the 2nd to last game of the year which should be good. Kentucky sucks but I imagine they will give us a good game. I feel like the ACC could get 2teams in though, as I think the Big 12 and PAC 12 will all end up beating one anothe up.

[Simple Fan]

If Jackson wins the Hiesman and they only have the one loss to Clemson who goes undefeated I feel like Louisville could get in. SEC will probably be Alabama one loss or not. Big 10 either Ohio State or Michigan I'd say who ever win their game. PAC 12 isn't as strong this year and I don't think Washington will win out. Big 12 is weak this year as well and I feel they will beat each other up and not have a playoff team. Leaves Houston who if they do beat Louisville and go undefeated should make it in from the American. Never know what's going to happen though and that's what great about college football and this playoff now.

[poopfromweiner dude]

How is Louisville going to get in dude,,

It'll take 2 bad losses for them to jump Clemson, the SEC champ will always get in, Ohio st or Michigan is a lock...

1 spot left for Louisville, Big 12 or Pac 12 team or more likely the next best SEC team

It's possible but you're going to need a lot of legit contenders to have 2 losses. A win vs Houston won't look as good comparatively to some of these notorious programs who play real schedules

[poopfromweiner dude]

And if OSU and Michigan run the table the loser of that game will still be ranked ahead of Louisville. #7 the first week of October is cool, but they're only going to be getting passed by more quality 1 lossers

[Simple Fan]

Like I said I don't think the PAC 12 or Big 12 will get a team in the playoff. Michigan and Ohio State could both get in but I don't see it and I feel one will lose 2 games. I think the Houston game will be huge. Especially if Houston is still undefeated. I feel like a loss to Clemson(a close one at that) is not all that bad of a loss. Clemson should run the table and be 1 or 2 by the end of the season. Really feel like the ACC gets two teams in and Louisville not playing championship week could be a blessing . Also if Jackson wins the Hiesman and Louisville's only loss it's undefeated Clemson they have to put Louisville in the playoff. This is all just speculation as anything can happen with a lot of season left.

[Simple Fan]

And if OSU and Michigan run the table the loser of that game will still be ranked ahead of Louisville. #7 the first week of October is cool, but they're only going to be getting passed by more quality 1 lossers

I expected to drop a lot more than 7 and felt real optimistic when I seen the ranking. Feel like Louisville will be the best one loss team if they win out as well. A loss to Clemson is better than say a Washington losing to any PAC 12 team. One loss Michigan or Ohio State could beat them out but I don't think Michigan is going to be undefeated by the time the play Ohio State. Tennessee could surprise and be in it as well. Also I have no doubt that if Houston beats Louisville and is undefeated they will get a spot.

[Simple Fan]

Notre Dame vs NC State was a mess wih the hurricane. Pouring down in the Viginia Teh/North Carolina game as well but not as bad. Houston losing right now to Navy. Tennessee losing to Texas A&M.

[Simple Fan]

Damn Tennessee with another comeback. Were down by like 2 touchdowns and I stopped watching to watch Central Intelligence and now its in 2nd OT tied at 38.

[Simple Fan]

They lost that one though. Texas A&M is 6-0

[Tom Guycott]

The Game was closer than it should have been. Lots of Buckeye mistakes and lots of not capitalizing on Xichigan mistakes. Defense uncharacteristically looked like a freakin' sieve. And don't get me started on Durbin's kicking. Win shouldn't have been so ugly.

Also, here is where I become a fair weather Sparty fan. Need them to kick the shit out of Penn State today.

[Frank Drebin]

Now, I hate the living shit out of Penn State for that whole....ya know....thing....but just playing devils advocate here, OSU thinks they're going to the playoffs but they aren't even playing in their conference title game?? With them being #2 prior to this week, seems like it's a lock, right?

[Clerk]

PSU winning it all baby suck my big Irish balls baby!!

[Tom Guycott]

I'm being the worst fan this year, but with a team that has constantly showed exactly how much talent they lost to the NFL and graduation after last season, I'm not entirely sure the Buckeyes have it in them to make it through Clemson, let alone go and hang another 40-something points on The Tide*.

I have a feeling there is going to be some sort of re-examination of the whole conference champion thing after this season because of the circumstances of the Big 10. I mean, I thought this was one of the reasons why everyone was falling all over themselves to make these 14+ team super conferences with two divisions and a championship game at the end (the other being ranked teams sliding from being "idle"). If Ohio State loses either one of the next two games, we will have to hear how Penn State "could have done better" and "deserved to be there" ad infinitum in spite of being a two loss team. They really have to step up major.

Of course, an 8 team playoff would have negated this and most of the rest of the Big 10 clusterfuck. One extra game. And don't keep pushing into January: play that shit like NOW instead of some of the nonsensical lesser bowl games. I still say making it 16 would be better, as it would also push the "Top 25" concept back into a way more relevant standing. Who gives a shit about who is ranked #19? Makes more sense if they actually had something to keep working for. A team that starts the year ranked #22 could have a chance to up their prominence instead of simply hoping for a chance to be playing in the Car Quest Whogivesashit Bowl.


*assuming Alabama beats Washington. Shouldn't assume this, considering what I said about playoffs year one. Washington is kinda iffy, though. They could pull off a win IF they don't shoot themselves in the foot. They can potentially let mistakes pile up and take themselves out of the game; something that Alabama will surely capitalize on.

[Frank Drebin]

The first response to any Penn State fan bitching should be "rythmic slapping"

[Tom Guycott]

Read that as "rhythmic gymnastics".

[Tom Guycott]

Didn't get a chance to say it before now, but "Go 'Guins".


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Funny how a multiple game playoff system works. YSU is now going to be playing for another 1-AA (fuck you, it's still one-double-A to me) championship for the first time since Tressel took left town to take a head coaching job for SOME SCHOOL down in Columbus.

[Simple Fan]

Was thinking today with these early bowl games really not meaning anything what if they created a NIT like tournament for college football? Could be for the Group of 5 schools that really have no chance at making it to the College Football Playoff.

Make it 8 teams with the 5 GO5 champions and 3 at large spots. So this year it would look somthing like this because Sunbelt had Co Champions only 2 at large spots available:

1 Western Michigan 13-0 MAC Champion vs 8 Arkansas State 7-5 Sunbelt Co Champion

2 Temple 10-3 AAC Champion vs 7 Appalachian State 9-3 Sunbelt Co Champion

3 Western Kentucky 10-3 CUSA Champion vs 6 Boise State 10-2 MW

4 San Deigo State 10-3 MW Champion vs 5 South Florida 10-2 AAC East runner up

All games are at the higher seeds home field then have the Championship game on New Years Day at a neutral site. Feel like it would give the smaller schools something more to play for and make winning their conference mean more as well.

[ClockShot]

UConn fired football coach Bob Diaco after 3 seasons.

Just fold up the football program already.

[unclebrown]

Diaco had it coming after that ramp incident woo

[Tom Guycott]

Ugh. Bucks shit the bedon an epic scale. Hopefully YSU somewhat makes up for it next week.

[Clerk]

All I have to say is. roll tide baby!!! Another one for bama and saban baby

[owenbrown]

Clerk is the Drake of TPWW. Bandwagoning jackass. :n:

[Vastardikai]

This year, there was a clear difference between the top 2 and the next 2.

Alabama ate Washington alive, which is to be expected. Just superior talent and superior coaching. And Clemson blackened the Buckeyes.

Curious to see if Watson redeems himself this year. They made it a game last year, but ultimately came up short. Problem is, I don't think this year's team is as good as last year's.

[Evil Vito]

Terrible playoff games.

[Evil Vito]

Kinda torn on Randy Edsall being back at UConn. The way he left the last time was so shitty. Many expected him to leave for Maryland but to leave in the middle of the night without telling his players while they were on the other side of the country after getting beaten down in the Fiesta Bowl was so lame. He did apologize for it a bunch in his presser, but still.

Then again, it's UConn. It's not like hot coaching prospects are knocking at their door. Their record will probably be bad for a few more years but maybe he can find another guy like Jordan Todman to at least make the offense watchable. Diaco's offense was worse than watching paint dry.

[Tom Guycott]

Hometown is not giving me hope today... Jesus H. I am so glad I'm unable to watch live.

[Evil Vito]

Amazing game from Clemson. Always fun to laugh at Alabama.

[ClockShot]

UConn women's hoops going for 90 straight wins (again) tonight.

Feels like yesterday that just did that feat.

[Big Vic]

Yeah dick heads SU #1 baby WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Tom Guycott]

I once again have a temporary, irrational dislike for Jim Ross. I'm sure this will pass when the night is over...

[RP]

Watching the Colts future QB Sam Darnold tear it up.

[Tom Guycott]

The first response to any Penn State fan bitching should be "rythmic slapping"

What a difference a year makes.

Much like last year, too many Ohio State mistakes.

Unlike last year, they pulled out a win. One they shouldn't have had to fight so damn hard to get. It was a good game in hindsight. A classic. But damn, it needed to be a decisive trouncing at home.

If Barrett can focus like he did in the clutch Saturday ALL OF THE TIME, he is one hell of a Quarterback.

Of course, now, if there are no more losses, there is still The Game. And presumably a B1G Ten Championship showdown with Wisconsin who seem to have the East locked up already.

[DAMN iNATOR]

SPARTANS WILL, BABY!

Next week, we kick Ohio State's asses. Gonna be fun! :D

[Frank Drebin]

Memba when Northwestern beat them last week? That was fun!

[Tom Guycott]

SPARTANS WILL, BABY!

Next week, we kick Ohio State's asses. Gonna be fun! :D

Slow down there, buddy.

Sparty's gonna have to deal with a hornet's nest after it just got kicked by Iowa.

[Sepholio]

This is the single most important post in this thread all year long.

Georgia is #1.

That is all.

[Tom Guycott]

Requisite "I told you so" post directed at DAMN iNATOR.

[Vastardikai]

This is the single most important post in this thread all year long.

Georgia is #1.

That is all.

And... you jinxed them.

[Helmsphere]

All I care about is seeing Clemson make it into the Playoffs, I'm feeling a little uneasy with the ACC Championship game against the U however.

[Sepholio]

And... you jinxed them.

:'(

[Frank Drebin]

Georgia could still make it. Beating Bama in the SEC championship would go a long way.

[Sepholio]

If Bama gets to the championship game. If Auburn beats them this week, which I now think is a very real possibility, then we would play Auburn again.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Requisite "I told you so" post directed at DAMN iNATOR.

We're still doing a metric shit-ton better than people expected.

Now to pick up 2 easy wins (Maryland, Rutgers) and reach 9-3 and get us an awesome bowl game.

[Frank Drebin]

As long as it isn't a better bowl than Northwestern. Because Northwestern is better.

[Frank Drebin]

Would love to see Northwestern in the Holiday bowl against a pac 12 team like Stanford.

[Tom Guycott]

I still ideally would like to see a 16 team playoff.

You can still have some New Year's tradition in bowl games. Keep doing the Rose Bowl and Fiesta Bowl and Car-Quest bowl and all that shit for the bottom half of the top 25 and honorable mentions, but 1-16 should be in a tourney. That would end any meaningful "argument" about someone being snubbed or jumped or undefeated but still left out in the cold. You'll have all your power teams, conference champs, and room for a Cinderella or two in the form of your Boise States, TCUs, and Northwesterns when they're actually "on" instead of just trying to unilaterally hand the crown to Alabama every year.

It would also put less emphasis on that "when" you lose bullshit, where if you lose early, you can still come back, but if you lose late, fuck you. Most of those would still be in. It would give a two loss team something to possibly still play for (or sometimes even a single loss team) and still make the playoffs instead of just giving up or playing spoiler.

"Oh, but they need to stay in school..." bullshit. The National Champs will have played a grand total of two more games than they do now. Meanwhile, basketball is gearing up, and those fuckers miss school to go play halfway across the state or country every other day between Thanksgiving and March Madness.

"How will the corporate sponsors make money..." have an individual sponsor represent the goddamn playoff games like any other bowl game.

[Simple Fan]

I think 16 is a bit to many but I'd like to see an 8 team playoff and maybe a NIT like playoffs for smaller schools at the beginning of bowl season. Alot of those early bowl games just feel so meaningless.

[Frank Drebin]

What? Are you saying bowls like the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl have no meaning??

[Frank Drebin]

I'm good with 4 vs what was 2, but I think 8 is a good number. 8 means legit contenders and you won't have shit like an undefeated big ten team or one loss SEC teams on the bubble like you do now. 16 means Northwestern has a shot though, so 16.

[Simple Fan]

What? Are you saying bowls like the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl have no meaning??

Exactly, Louisville will probably go to the Belk Bowl or Russle Athletics Bowl again. Actually went to the Music City Bowl a couple of years ago when Louisville beat Texas A&M in Jackson's freshman year. Was fun to go watch but didn't seem like A&M were playing for much.

[poopfromweiner dude]

I would hate anything more than 8.

I'm on the fence between 4 and 8...MAYBE 6 where #1 and #2 get a bye. I'd prefer that to 8

If it was 8 tho maybe a team like UCF could actually get in...I wouldn't hate that. If you win ALL your games you should be allowed the chance to play for a national 'ship in my humble

[Tom Guycott]

I am iffy about 8. Yes, it is better than four, and worlds better than just "deciding" which two schools deserve it more, but when you get a stacked field of "names", there is too much temptation to weed out the UCFs by jumping another SEC or B1G school ahead of them because "strength of schedule".

16 also eliminates a need for a bye. You're also running under the assumption that 1 will kick the shit out of 16 for round one play. They could bracket better than that if nobody decides to be lazy. The problem O see with a bye for 1 and/or 2 is it has more involved than just how good a team is. A (example) two loss Georgia could get way more love than an undefeated Tulsa, who ends up ranked like 5. Would it be exactly fair that Tulsa doesn't get to rest after having to claw their way up the rankings, run the table, get lucky enough that some of the "right" teams lose, and then not get any rest because they aren't a big money name and didn't start the season with a high rank in the polls grandfathered in?

An extra round would mean more than those same teams playing at the Charmin Half-Ass Random Bowl for an exhibition.

[Tom Guycott]

First Xichigan, then Wisconsin...

[Frank Drebin]

LEAVE WISCONSIN ALONE!!! LEAVE EM ALONE!!!

[Tom Guycott]

Feck that. They felt the need to run roughshod over their schedule. They locked up the West. Ohio State already has the East even if they... lose... to TTUN. They meet for that weird looking trophy. Afterwards, either way, we'll see how the playoff picture shakes out.

Big a Buckeye fan as I am, I wouldn't be entirely upset that Wisconsin goes undefeated and makes a legit beef for a playoff ranking in spite of that BS thing I heard earlier about them supposedly having "weakest strength of schedule" while Alabama enjoyed their bye week against Mercer, and Clemson "played" the freakin' Citadel.

[Frank Drebin]

Their best win is a 9 point win at home against my hopefully Holiday Bowl bound Northwestern.

This week of college football sucked balls. Everyone trying to play cupcakes prior to their rivalry games. When did that become a thing?

[Tom Guycott]

Their best win is a 9 point win at home against my hopefully Holiday Bowl bound Northwestern.

This week of college football sucked balls. Everyone trying to play cupcakes prior to their rivalry games. When did that become a thing?

When everyone bitched about playing cupcakes at the beginning of the season and not having conference championship games.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LEAVE WISCONSIN ALONE!!! LEAVE EM ALONE!!!

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[Tom Guycott]

As much as I enjoyed THE game (both teams left bodies laying; exactly as it should be in the rivalry)... that "War of I-4" should go down in history as one of the best college football games of all time. And I say that with the least amount of hyperbole as possible: it was that damn good.

Also, those UCF helmets had some of the most swag this side of Oregon getting Nike money.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville managed to salvage the season after a slow start. Lamar looked too good vs Kentucky and I feel like he'll go Pro. Just hoping he doesn't land with the Giants if so. Also with the AD gone Bobby Patrinos buyout was lessened and he could take one of these high caliber jobs available. Hoping Louisville goes to the Pinstripe Bowl or Sun Bowl but looking like the Tax Slayer Bowl most likely.

[Frank Drebin]

Trying to figure out how my mbbal team (The mighty Bradley Braves) have a top 25 RPI. I know it's really early and these numbers are wacky at the start but goddamn.

[Frank Drebin]

Also, Northwestern should be the first three-loss team in the football playoffs. Fuck you all.

[Emperor Smeat]

:D First time in 8 years Rams beat rivals PC in hoops.

[Sepholio]

YYYUUUSSSS. All is right in the world of college football.

[Vastardikai]

YYYUUUSSSS. All is right in the world of college football.

And Fromm is only a freshman. And Swift is only a freshman.

[Sepholio]

On a side note, the #1 high school recruit in the country who switched commitment from Alabama to UGA is pretty beastly. He plays QB and his team eliminated my old high school in the state quarterfinals last week. He ate them alive. Looks promising for Georgia.

[Sepholio]

Really shocked Alabama got the #4. Ohio State just didn't beat Wisconsin bad enough I guess. If only they would have kept their foot on that throat instead of letting Wisconsin creep back.

Based on FPI they seem to think the national championship is going to end up being UGA vs Alabama. All SEC title game. I can't wait to hear the crying that ensues if that scenario plays out.

I don't think it will happen though. There was one team I didn't want UGA to get in the semis. Oklahoma. And look how it played out. That is going to be a tough game. Alabama and Clemson is a toss up, but Clemson has the momentum right now, especially after thrashing Miami the way they did. I think the final will be Clemson vs Oklahoma, personally, with Oklahoma going over in the end due to Baker Mayfield magic. He will win the Heisman for sure in that game.

[Frank Drebin]

Lame ass Wisconsin choked.

[Tom Guycott]

1) Really shocked Alabama got the #4. Ohio State just didn't beat Wisconsin bad enough I guess. If only they would have kept their foot on that throat instead of letting Wisconsin creep back.

2) Based on FPI they seem to think the national championship is going to end up being UGA vs Alabama. All SEC title game. I can't wait to hear the crying that ensues if that scenario plays out.



1) I'm actually not. The two factors here weren't so much the Buckeyes not hanging enough points on the Badgers, but the combination of letting a team that had no business beating them do so (Iowa), and the fact that OSU got a bump last time they were in this situation (albeit, there was more argument here than there was there - they didn't even play for the Big Ten championship and then played embarassingly to not even warrant that nod). Expanded playoffs would fix some of that, but that's not going to happen yet.

2) Assuming Alabama has always been the name of the game for like the last decade. I still hate all the "SEC IS ALWAYS TEH BEST IN PERPETUITY" nonsense, and some of those tears you speak of will be mine. But even worse than trying to milk that almighty SEC teat for ratings and dollars, (which is understandable from a buisiness standpoint even though college football is supposedly not a business that a bunch of suits make a ton of money on) is unilaterally trying to hand the Tide the championship every season.

On a side note, really wish the "playoff" games weren't rotating predesignated bowls. Something about the Big Ten/Pac Ten champs not playing Rose Bowl seems off to me.

[Simple Fan]

Louisville/UK game being on a Friday at 1:00 is stupid. Usually they play on Saturday, I'll have to listen to the game on the radio.

[Frank Drebin]

Northwestern gonna tear UK a new asshole today. The sound of an anus tear will be Music (City) to my ears.

[Simple Fan]

Well Louisville pretty much quit with 6 minutes to go in the first half. I don't think Padgett will last as the coach after this season.

[Simple Fan]

Northwestern gonna tear UK a new asshole today. The sound of an anus tear will be Music (City) to my ears.

Should be a good game, UK has a spotty defense and tends to leave WRs wide open.

[Frank Drebin]

This game is off the rails already. UK defender suplexes an NU wideout and gives him a concussion. NU loses starting QB with what looks like a torn ACL after he makes a catch on a halfback pass. Refs questionably eject the best player on UK (RB Bennie Snell) after he makes contact with an official.

[Simple Fan]

Northwestern really going to win now after that Snell ejection. Craziest ejection I've ever seen.

[Frank Drebin]

That was one of the worst calls I've seen. I would be seething if I were a UK fan. Looked like there was miscommunication with the ref having his hands out looking like he may have wanted to help him up. Really strange.

[Simple Fan]

Seemed like the ref reached out and grabbed Snell and he just reacted. Unless he said something to the ref its a very questionable ejection.

[Frank Drebin]

Northwestern really going to win now after that Snell ejection. Craziest ejection I've ever seen.

We'll see. The backup QB sucks. Alviti was a top recruit at one point but has always been bad. There's a reason Thorson was picked to start over him when Thorson was a true freshman. NU gonna run the ball alot now and become one-dimensional. Defense is gonna have to create turnovers.

[Frank Drebin]

Terrified that Thorson's injury will bleed into 2018. Kid has a chance to go pro. Prob would have been a 6th or 7th project pick if he left this year

[Frank Drebin]

There's a TO. W00t!!!

[Simple Fan]

Wow this game is amazing.

[Frank Drebin]

lollllllllll....UK head coach going nuts arguing for a late hit, gets an unsportsmanlike conduct before his team could attempt a 45 yard FG, knocking them out of range.

[Frank Drebin]

UK starting QB hurt now.

[Frank Drebin]

Bananas

[Simple Fan]

lollllllllll....UK head coach going nuts arguing for a late hit, gets an unsportsmanlike conduct before his team could attempt a 45 yard FG, knocking them out of range.

I thought he was going to eject him as well.

[Frank Drebin]

Glad UK fans aren't as passionate about Football as they are Basketball otherwise there would be trash on the field at the least.

[Frank Drebin]

That was a good tackle, but with this crew I can totally see NU's best defensive player getting tossed for shits and giggles.

[Frank Drebin]

OMFG

[Simple Fan]

I hate targeting calls so much.

[Frank Drebin]

I've never seen a game officiated like this.

[Frank Drebin]

I hate targeting calls so much.

Yeah....it's really gotten out of hand this year. Feels like every hit gets reviewed.

On that play specifically I have no idea why thats targeting. Painfully obvious makeup call taking out NU's best defensive player after terribly ejecting UK's best offensive player.

[Frank Drebin]

If these refs did this in the playoffs they'd never ref another game at any level.

[Simple Fan]

I've never seen a game officiated like this.

I feel like this is a basketball crew or something.

[Simple Fan]

Glad UK fans aren't as passionate about Football as they are Basketball otherwise there would be trash on the field at the least.

UofL/UK game probably kept alot from making the trip. Both fanbases might trash the field before this games over.

[Frank Drebin]

Matt Alviti take this energy

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[Frank Drebin]

We'll see. The backup QB sucks. Alviti was a top recruit at one point but has always been bad. There's a reason Thorson was picked to start over him when Thorson was a true freshman. NU gonna run the ball alot now and become one-dimensional. Defense is gonna have to create turnovers.

I've gotten my 2 TO's. Thank you very much!!!

[Frank Drebin]

This is the point where NU could just salt the game away with a couple of first downs. Whenever they're in this position, its always a 3 and out.

[Frank Drebin]

Wow. Thank god.

[Frank Drebin]

Maybe the worst officiated half of football I've ever seen leading to a crappy 2nd. I wanted an NU win, but more than anything, I wanted it to be over.

[Frank Drebin]

Go big ten and all that but while the announcers are saying "PENN STATE IZ BAK!!" I would just like to point out that the entire administration and community looked the other way while a coach molested children for a generation and still to this day think they did nothing wrong and stoke conspiracy theory fires all in the name of how much Football means to them and as a means of fending of the shame of doing what they did. To this day they continue to act as if nothing bad happened even though they've paid over $93 million in restitution to victims at last count.

The fact that something as unconscionable as that can happen and the punishment is a couple of years of postseason bans and a few scholarships lost is unreal. What would have to happen at a football powerhouse for them to have to shut down the program?

[Frank Drebin]

5 bucks says Michigan blows a cake game against a very "meh" South Carolina team to cost the Big Ten a perfect Bowl record.

I know they've got lots of injuries, but they're still better than that team.

[rez]

Frank, do you post on the rivals forums?

[Frank Drebin]

Naw. This is the only place I post. Why? Someone post like me there?