The Greatest IC Champions

[Marc the Smark]

In your opinion, who were the greatest Intercontinental Champs of all time? List the Top 10 (and maybe explain your reasoning, if you want)

Pat Patterson
Ken Patera
Pedro Morales
Don "The Rock" Muraco
Tito Santana
Greg "The Hammer" Valentine
Randy "Macho Man" Savage
Ricky Steamboat
The Honky Tonk Man
Ravishing Rick Rude
The Ultimate Warrior
Mr. Perfect
Texas Tornado Kerry Von Erich
Mr. Perfect
Bret "The Hitman" Hart
The Mountie
Rowdy Roddy Piper
The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith
Shawn Michaels
Marty Jannetty
Razor Ramon
Diesel
Jeff Jarrett
Dean Douglas
Goldust
Ahmed Johnson
Hunter Hearst-Helmsley
Rocky Maivia
Owen Hart
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Ken Shamrock
Val Venis
The Road Dogg
The Godfather
Edge
D'Lo Brown
Chyna
Chris Jericho
Kurt Angle
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
Billy Gunn
Jeff Hardy
Kane
Albert
Lance Storm
Christian
Test
William Regal
Rob Van Dam
Booker T
Randy Orton

[blake639raw]

In no particular order:

Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Randy Savage
The Honky Tonk Man
Pedro Morales
Mr. Perfect
The Rock
HHH
The Ultimate Warrior
Davey Boy Smith

[Vastardikai]

In your opinion, who were the greatest Intercontinental Champs of all time? List the Top 10.

Marty Jannetty
Diesel
Dean Douglas
The Godfather
Chyna
Billy Gunn
Kane
Albert
Test
William Regal

:shifty:

[aaronkyle86]

I'd have to go with:
Mr Perfect
Owen Hart
Bret Hart
Razor Ramon
Chris Jericho
D'Lo Brown
Eddie Guerrero
Texas Tornado
Randy Savage
Randy Orton

[KillerWolf]

bret hart
mr. perfect
shawn micheals

[Stickman]

Rick Rude and Mr. Perfect were above them all.

[Vastardikai]

jokes over. Now, in no particular order:

10. Greg "the Hammer" Valentine
9. The Honky Tonk Man
8. Kurt Angle
7. Ricky "the Dragon" Steamboat
6. Eddie Guerrero
5. Chris Benoit
4. Owen Hart
3. "Macho Man" Randy Savage
2. Bret "Hitman" Hart
1. Mr. Perfect

[PureHatred]

In no particular order:

Savage
Rude
Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Triple H
The Rock
Owen Hart
Kurt Angle
Chris Jericho
Razor Ramon

On talent alone, Steamboat and SCSA deserve to be mentioned, but for some reason, I don't associate Austin with the I-C belt. And Steamboat had his reign cut really short because he wanted time off, so Vince had him job to HTM. HTM himself had a really long reign, but was booked to look like such a worthless piece of crap that it's hard to think of him as 'great.' I remember one four-week stretch on USA Primetime where Honky faced Lanny Poffo, Hillbilly Jim, Tito Santana, then 'Cowboy' Scott Casey. The matches went: cheat to win, cheat to win, DQ to retain, cheat to win...yikes. Not his fault, but still, it killed his credibility.

[MVP]

Pedro Morales
Don Muraco
Tito Santana
Greg Valentine
Randy Savage
Bret Hart
Curt Hennig
Razor Ramon
The Rock
Chris Jericho

[Loose Cannon]

In no particular order:

On talent alone, Steamboat and SCSA deserve to be mentioned, but for some reason, I don't associate Austin with the I-C belt. And Steamboat had his reign cut really short because he wanted time off, so Vince had him job to HTM. HTM himself had a really long reign, but was booked to look like such a worthless piece of crap that it's hard to think of him as 'great.' I remember one four-week stretch on USA Primetime where Honky faced Lanny Poffo, Hillbilly Jim, Tito Santana, then 'Cowboy' Scott Casey. The matches went: cheat to win, cheat to win, DQ to retain, cheat to win...yikes. Not his fault, but still, it killed his credibility.

I don't know, Honky got some of the biggest heat I had ever heard before during his reign. Fans were literally calling for his head by the end of it. So in a character sense, he was pretty good.

[The Show Off]

1. Mr. Perfect
2. Shawn Michaels
3. The Rock
4. Bret "The Hitman" Hart
5. Ravishing Rick Rude
6. The Ultimate Warrior
7. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
8. Triple H
9. Razor Ramon
10. Randy "Macho Man" Savage

[samichna]

Definitely the Godfather

[PureHatred]

I don't know, Honky got some of the biggest heat I had ever heard before during his reign. Fans were literally calling for his head by the end of it. So in a character sense, he was pretty good.

I totally agree. He did big money and drew tons of fans to the arena just because they hated him so much. But i'm just saying when I think of greatnes a guy who was booked to look weak on purpose just doesn't leap to mind. I gues it's the difference forma fan's perspective and an "indsider's" perspective.

Based on revenue alone, HTM is probably one of the top workers in WWE history. But as a fan, I just remember him going months at a time between clean wins.

[da_king]

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in no order except for number one

htm
bret hart
hbk
mr. perfect
macho man
owen hart
ricky steamboat
don muraco
greg the hammer
the rock
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[The Mackem]

Who is Dean Douglas btw?

anyway personally I'd say

Perfect
Tornado
Bret
Bulldog
Owen
Rock
Jericho
Angle
Benoit
Guerrero

[da_king]

Who is Dean Douglas btw?



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shane douglas, the franchise of ecw

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[Wildcat789]

In no particular order

Bret Hart
Steamboat
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Honky Tonk Man
Chris Jericho \
Chris Benoit > These 3 b/c they got the belt credibility after Chyna
Kurt Angle /
Rick Rude
Mr. Perfect
Randy Orton (RKO 4 t3h w1n)

[Deceit]

Mr. Perfect
Shawn Michaels
Rick Rude

No doubt

[The Ravishing One]

I've repped everyone that voted for Rick Rude.

[The Ravishing One]

Tito Santana
The Honky Tonk Man
Ravishing Rick Rude :D
Mr. Perfect
Bret "The Hitman" Hart
The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith
Shawn Michaels
Owen Hart
Chris Jericho
Rob Van Dam

In no order btw.

[Nowhere Man]

:eek: Loose Cannon posted in a thread about the Intercontinental Title without even mentioning Orton? Damn, that takes all the fun out of it!

Anyways, IMO the best I-C Champion has got to be Owen Hart.

[Loose Cannon]

^^Go check the Q&A forum ;)

[Nowhere Man]

I saw it, you forked-tongued devil, you!

[Loose Cannon]

:naughty: lol "Legend Killer Killer"

[Nowhere Man]

Yeah, after switching through about forty billion different titles, I think I found one I can work with.

[OssMan]

Definitely the Godfather

[Volchok]

Loose Can.. i mean Randy Orton :shifty:

[LK]

In no order

Shawn Michaels
Bret Hart
Chris Jericho
Chris Benoit
Kurt Angle
Roddy Piper
Mr Perfect
Randy Orton
Triple H
The Rock

[Marc the Smark]

A couple of you are fans of the Honky Tonk Man, and that's fine, but the guy makes me sick. "Why?" you might ask. Read his website. He's a very bitter man who believes his own hype. He hates Piper because of this, Hogan cause of that, Nash is this, and Hall is that. He bad mouthed Mr Perfect when he died, bad mouthed Lugar AND Elizabeth when she passed, but praises the hell out of Jake Roberts. :nono:

[Stickman]

A couple of you are fans of the Honky Tonk Man, and that's fine, but the guy makes me sick. "Why?" you might ask. Read his website. He's a very bitter man who believes his own hype. He hates Piper because of this, Hogan cause of that, Nash is this, and Hall is that. He bad mouthed Mr Perfect when he died, bad mouthed Lugar AND Elizabeth when she passed, but praises the hell out of Jake Roberts. :nono:

Um...Didn't Rude pass away before Perfect, and Elizabeth? Or am I going crazy?

[HardyStonerfan]

errr...um can I just say one name to be as annoying as Steve from Family matters.

Jeff Hardy....:-D

[Loose Cannon]

Um...Didn't Rude pass away before Perfect, and Elizabeth? Or am I going crazy?

He's talking about HTM, not Rick Rude. He didn't even mention Rude.

[The Ravishing One]

Just for the record Rude DID past away before Perfect and Elizabeth. Just over 5 years now.

[da_king]

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as a person, htm leaves a lot to be desired but as a heel IC champ he did what he was supposed to (and did it well imo)


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[The CyNick]

Its pretty obvious, Randy Orton is #1-10, he's simply the best.

[Savio]

orton hasn't done anything for the title...so far.

[91]

Well, Orton has held it longer than some of the most noteworthy champions in history. Orton so far has held it 164 days by my calculations, beating off the likes of Ricky Steamboat (65 days), Rick Rude (128), Kevin Nash (118), Steve Austin (less than 92, combined), Billy Gunn (19) and Shane Douglas (15... minutes).

Not that I'm saying he's the best champion ever, but if they leave it on him for a few more months...

[Deceit]

If the WWE officals are as high on Orton as we all think they are, they'll probably try to make him one of the best of all time, if not the best. He's got all the tools to be the next "legend", they just need to take their time to build him up to be so. So far, so good :y:

[John la Rock]

I'd say The Rock, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Jeff Jarrett, Shawn Michaels, Mr. Perfect, and Razor Ramon

[Batsu]

The Rock, Rick Rude, Bret Hart, Angle, Benoit, Jericho ... most of these people have been mentioned already.

I like The Rock's reign especially because he reminded me of The Honky Tonk Man...the way he would retain the victories.

[The Ravishing One]

Rick Rude
:y:

[Lara Emily]

Well, Orton has held it longer than some of the most noteworthy champions in history. Orton so far has held it 164 days by my calculations, beating off the likes of Ricky Steamboat (65 days), Rick Rude (128), Kevin Nash (118), Steve Austin (less than 92, combined), Billy Gunn (19) and Shane Douglas (15... minutes).

Not that I'm saying he's the best champion ever, but if they leave it on him for a few more months...
Yes but honestly how much has he actually defended the damn thing.

[91]

Now that you mention it... still, we live and hope.

[Lara Emily]

Now that you mention it... still, we live and hope.
I suppose I'm not all that much of a fan of his, I mean he's better than a lot of guys but still, he's kinda meh to me

[Savio]

Well, Orton has held it longer than some of the most noteworthy champions in history. Orton so far has held it 164 days by my calculations, beating off the likes of Ricky Steamboat (65 days), Rick Rude (128), Kevin Nash (118), Steve Austin (less than 92, combined), Billy Gunn (19) and Shane Douglas (15... minutes).

Not that I'm saying he's the best champion ever, but if they leave it on him for a few more months...
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How long a title run was....
Don "Magnificent" Muraco.....06/20/1981............Philadelphia PA / One Fall
Pedro Morales 2..................11/23/1981............New York NY / One Fall
Don "Magnificent" Muraco.....01/22/1983............New York NY / One Fall
Tito Santana......................02/11/1984............Boston MA / One Fall

[blake639raw]

I mean really, he's defended it just about as much as any other champion. He's defended against RVD in a really good match, he's defended against Booker, Booker and RVD in a 3 way, Edge, Venis on a few occasions, and Foley, probably a few more that I'm forgetting also. Also the fact that he pretty much is a main eventer with the strap. He is usually always in high profile matches, and the belt being on him is doing alot for both himself and the title. I think Orton has had a really good run. He is definately the best IC champ since at least The Rock, which should count for something.

[Lara Emily]

I mean really, he's defended it just about as much as any other champion. He's defended against RVD in a really good match, he's defended against Booker, Booker and RVD in a 3 way, Edge, Venis on a few occasions, and Foley, probably a few more that I'm forgetting also. Also the fact that he pretty much is a main eventer with the strap. He is usually always in high profile matches, and the belt being on him is doing alot for both himself and the title. I think Orton has had a really good run. He is definately the best IC champ since at least The Rock, which should count for something.
Benoit/Jericho/Angle.

[blake639raw]

Benoit/Jericho/Angle. I'm not really talking about as far as ability, I'm talking more about overall booking of the character. Orton has been booked very strong, and just has seemed more dominant. Angle was booked like a pussy, Benoit hit the glass ceiling it seemed, and Y2J wasn't as dominant as Orton either imo.

[Lara Emily]

I'm not really talking about as far as ability, I'm talking more about overall booking of the character. Orton has been booked very strong, and just has seemed more dominant. Angle was booked like a pussy, Benoit hit the glass ceiling it seemed, and Y2J wasn't as dominant as Orton either imo.
You mentioned Orton putting on good matches as your support. Benout and Jericho had a series of great matches with the title going back and forth makeing it looks strong and competitive. Ladder matches, submission matches, regular matches, it was a huge rivalry one of the better IC title, nay the best I've seen in a while and Angle was in there too.

[The icon killer]

For me it was Scott Hall mean his ladder macth for ic Championship was ansome

[The Outlaw]

Hmm tough question. In no order

Rick Rude, HBK, bret Hart, HTM, Mr. Perfect

Those come to mind very quickly.

[Bull]

Randy F'n Orton
Owen
Rude
Goldust
Mr. Perfect
Jericho

[Aussie Skier]

I'd say a good IC champ is a champ who u associate with the belt:

Jeff Jarrett
Christian
RVD
Chris Jericho
Razor Ramon
Shawn Michaels
Ken Patera
Rick Rude
Mr. Perfect
Ultimate warrior