WWE RAW 12/21 feat. Slammys, Reigns vs the World, & New ECW Orignals Wyatts

[Droford]

Taco bell registered the domain ta.co

Lol

[Lock Jaw]

What was that

[Droford]

Neville heel turn to replace Wade Barrett it the LON

[Lock Jaw]

Good way to build Neville's momentum again

[Lock Jaw]

Sheamus seems too "happy" this week for having lost his title last week.... should at least grab a mic or something and at least mention it.....

[Mercenary]

Good way to build Neville's momentum again

He didn't have any to start

[Lock Jaw]

Is The Miz actually a good actor that he keeps getting cast in stuff....

[DAMN iNATOR]

This one HAS to go to Brock.

[Lock Jaw]

Voting Divas.... because even though it went to crud after that, that moment was awesome.

[Droford]

Lol another winner not here to accept

[Emperor Smeat]

Rock's probably going to win but the height Rollins got on that RKO was awesome.

[Lock Jaw]

Also I want to see Becky Lynch

[DAMN iNATOR]

I love Rock and all, but Rousey lost all credibility a month or two ago losing a match against a competitor who basicalky ended up being the female Buster Douglas to her Tyson.

[Lock Jaw]

Most prestigious award show that no one attends

[Lock Jaw]

I HEAR BECKY THEME!!!!

[Droford]

Also I want to see Becky Lynch

There you go

[slik]

RAW was so good last week...what has happened...feel like nothing has happened and the crowd is dead and the show is boring...

[Droford]

Most prestigious award show that no one attends

Kinda funny they got Rollins to show up

[DAMN iNATOR]

Stupid people in the crowd with what sounded like a "Hey, we want some Bayley!" chants...how much does it take to figure that ay this point she'd just end up lost in the shuffle on the main roster?

[Corndad]

Becky vs Charlotte vs Sasha would be pretty awesome at Mania.

[Lock Jaw]

Stupid people in the crowd with what sounded like a "Hey, we want some Bayley!" chants...how much does it take to figure that ay this point she'd just end up lost in the shuffle on the main roster?

I believe they were saying "Becky"....

[Mercenary]

Ric hasn't had a moty since 72

[Droford]

Voted for Owens vs Cena

[Emperor Smeat]

RAW was so good last week...what has happened...feel like nothing has happened and the crowd is dead and the show is boring...

Slammys have usually been pretty meh for quality but the stuff with Reigns and Steph in the beginning was really horrible. Feels like they are still not sure what direction to take Reigns since he came off more Cena like unlike last week being more Austin like.

[Corndad]

Sasha vs Bayley at Takeover > All of These

[Lock Jaw]

Out of these choices, Cena/Owens....

[Mercenary]

Sasha vs Bayley at Takeover > All of These

That was NXT sheesh

[Emperor Smeat]

Wouldn't be surprised if Taker-Lesnar cage match won just because it fits perfectly with the main event itself being a cage match.

Cena vs Owens should win out of that list though.

[slik]

Good choices for Match of the Year

[Lock Jaw]

NXT should have its own slammy awards.... with blackjack! And hookers!

[DAMN iNATOR]

So since they gave one last gigantic middle finger to NXT (:nono:), I'm going with Lesnar v. 'Taker.

[Mercenary]

So since they gave one last gigantic middle finger to NXT (:nono:), I'm going with Lesnar v. 'Taker.

NXT has been booked separate as it should be.

[Lock Jaw]

So since they gave one last gigantic middle finger to NXT (:nono:)

What the hell were you expecting? This is the WWE Slammy Awards, not NXT.

I'm sure when they do their WWE.com lists it will be on there, since they include NXT there.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Ric hasn't had a moty since 72

What about the '92 Rumble or WM VIII v. Macho Man?

[RawRocks]

i want to punch the Geico Peter Pan square in the face

[DAMN iNATOR]

What the hell were you expecting? This is the WWE Slammy Awards, not NXT.

I'm sure when they do their WWE.com lists it will be on there, since they include NXT there.

Did I miss something here? Is NXT not under the WWE banner?

[Droford]

Ric hasn't had a moty since 72

Flair HBK won in 08

[DAMN iNATOR]

NXT has been booked separate as it should be.

It's still a part of the overall company.

[Lock Jaw]

Did I miss something here? Is NXT not under the WWE banner?

Not gonna bother trying to explain this to you.

[Lock Jaw]

Lesnar/Taker at Summerslam was better.

Maybe.

I don't know.

I can't remember.

I feel like that may have been my feelings.

[Mercenary]

lol no brock

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

i want to punch the Geico Peter Pan square in the face

He was great in the Prequel series of Wet Hot American Summer.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

us ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwww

[Lock Jaw]

MACHKA

[Mercenary]

Flair HBK won in 08

I mean a non rigged one. Not who WWE wants

[OssMan]

Do you think the Usos are trying to join the League of Nations as representatives from American Samoa, so they are getting "jumped in"

[Droford]

I mean a non rigged one. Not who WWE wants

Name a better match in 08

[Droford]

Do you think the Usos are trying to join the League of Nations as representatives from American Samoa, so they are getting "jumped in"

League of Nations and Territories

[DAMN iNATOR]

Not gonna bother trying to explain this to you.

Oh, so instead you'll take a page out of CyNick's playbook and go with the cop out response. Cool. :y:

[Dark One]

What a turd of a show after last week. It's pretty indicative of the major problem when like five awards straight--out of what, eight?--go to people who aren't there because they're super part time.

Although if THESE are the people the Universe legitimately chose? Fuck them. Vince can book whatever garbage he wants.

NEVILLE as breakout star of the year? THE USOS WHO WEREN'T EVEN ACTIVE FOR EIGHT MONTHS as Tag Team of the Year? Come the fuck on.

[OssMan]

Bro kick

[Dark One]

Oh, so instead you'll take a page out of CyNick's playbook and go with the cop out response. Cool. :y:

Nothing from NXT would have won anyway the way this voting has gone, ignoring the fact that NXT has indeed been kept almost entirely separate. You're basically asking why YouTube shows and movies aren't represented at the Golden Globes or Oscars.

[DAMN iNATOR]

"RAW was so awful tonight, we need a FULL WEEK to hype Cena returning!" Basically what that af was.

[Lock Jaw]

Ok....

WWE is its own brand, NXT is its own brand. On your WWE brand's award show, you want to acknowledge only your WWE brand. You want to use your show to put over your show/brand and not another show/brand.

[Droford]

What a turd of a show after last week. It's pretty indicative of the major problem when like five awards straight--out of what, eight?--go to people who aren't there because they're super part time.

Although if THESE are the people the Universe legitimately chose? Fuck them. Vince can book whatever garbage he wants.

NEVILLE as breakout star of the year? THE USOS WHO WEREN'T EVEN ACTIVE FOR EIGHT MONTHS as Tag Team of the Year? Come the fuck on.

2 of the 4 that showed up to accept awards are out due to injuries

[DAMN iNATOR]

Nothing from NXT would have won anyway the way this voting has gone, ignoring the fact that NXT has indeed been kept almost entirely separate. You're basically asking why YouTube shows and movies aren't represented at the Golden Globes or Oscars.

Except in this case I'm just asking for them to compare apples to other apples unlike with the examples you gave.

[Droford]

NXT should have the Nexties Awards next year

[Mercenary]

Poor Damn started this year as a poty now he has gone to the STD level

[Exyle]

Crowd is right. This whole Raw was pretty boring. :-\

[Lock Jaw]

Except in this case I'm just asking for them to compare apples to other apples unlike with the examples you gave.

It is like having Awards for "Best Granny Smith Apples" and then being "mad" that a "Red Delicious" Apple was not nominated. Yes, they are both Apples.... but different kinds of Apples.....


To use your analogies....

[DAMN iNATOR]

Poor Damn started this year as a poty now he has gone to the STD level

And you're a backstabbing Benedict Arnold to me who had never been anything but supportive of you in your times of most need. So there ya go.

[slik]

boring chants during a cage match...man they f*cked up this show tonight

[Droford]

Ambrose Usos heel turn so they stop getting fucked over by vindictive Steph tryingvto get back at Roman through them

[Droford]

Oh man i knew he was gonna do that still

[Droford]

League of Supermans Punching Bags

[Lock Jaw]

Ha ha Barrett just being "F this, I'm out"

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably could make the case of the League being more useless to Sheamus than J&J Security were to Rollins.

[Droford]

WTF is roman doing putting the chair on his shoulder like that

[Lock Jaw]

Don't understand that fighting on the outside of the cage spot..... just drop.... don't hit your opponent so he drops and wins.....

[slik]

Good end to RAW after a boring show

[Droford]

Lol

[Lock Jaw]

R.I.P. Tom Phillips

[slik]

Tom Phillips dead via slaps to the torso/head

[slik]

I lolled at him rocking back and forth on the floor

[Simple Fan]

Caught that ending, tried to watch MNF but wasn't to good of a game and I flipped back in forth. Dumb ending with them fighting on he outside of the cage. Reminded me of the South Park episode where they are trying to lose baseball games so they don't have to play any more and they meet a team that's doing the same thing.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Droford]

So Dean Ambrose has to win the 20 16 Superstar Slammy right?

[Lock Jaw]

Beginning to wonder if Dean Ambrose will ever amount to anything more than he is right now. Feel like he might not ever be WWE Champion.

[Savio]

Read the results on wwe.com... the writer there is very bad.

[Droford]

If Dean Ambrose ever turned heel they could call him Mean Ambrose

/randomthought

[Emperor Smeat]

Beginning to wonder if Dean Ambrose will ever amount to anything more than he is right now. Feel like he might not ever be WWE Champion.

Thought it was going to be Rollins that would get the belt last but wouldn't be surprised if Ambrose ends up getting the Jeff Hardy or CM Punk treatment instead. Consistently very popular but won't get the real gold until years later.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ha ha Barrett just being "F this, I'm out"

He just came from from injuries.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So Dean Ambrose has to win the 20 16 Superstar Slammy right?

Clean Sweep for the Shield three years in row. It will be Roman Reigns tho.

[Damndirty]

Good lord, what an embarrassment to have so many no-shows. Oh well, nobody gives a funky ass for the Slammys or any other kiddy program they throw to us nowadays. It's apparent that there is still no reason to tune in on Mondays. Time for a new weekly pastime!

[Emperor Smeat]

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Death by Slap-Slap

[drave]

Stephanie doing her best E. Honda.

[OssMan]

How is the Bro Kick different from the Big Boot

[Savio]

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Death by Slap-SlapHave to make Stephanie look strong

[WinterDecay]

Would Ziggler at this point be considered a "Has-Been" or a "Never-Was"?

[Big Vic]

really wish Ziggler would retire or go work for ROH or something.

[Rammsteinmad]

After a one-week boom of good product, WWE is back to it's usual crappy self.

Pretty boring, predictable show.

How the fuck Neville got Superstar of the Year over Owens, for the sake of a shitty segment? I'll never understand.

[Rammsteinmad]

How many times has Ziggler jobbed to Owens now? And how many times has be beat him? Urgh. Cannot believe how repetitive and stale Raw is.

[Rammsteinmad]

And I'm glad NXT wasn't involved in the Slammy's for the same reason that I don't want any NXT matches at Wrestlemania.

NXT is the "developmental brand".

Yes, it is all part of the WWE product, and is the best thing WWE is doing right now. But the bottom line, is that it's the developmental brand. It's "the future" and all that bollocks. Nobody from NXT should be winning Slammy's or having feature matches at Wrestlemania if they're not up to the level of being on the flagship show/roster.

[drave]

Unless the developmental brand > than the "flagship".


THEN WHAT ANGRY MAN WHO WATCHES A SHOW HE DOESN'T LIKE??!?!?!?!

[Heisenberg]

Triple H and Steph are loading the rocket fuel for the ship that is NXT. In 2017 they will launch the rocket de NXT and separate from the WWE entirely. Cue Bobby Lashley's theme

[drave]

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[Rammsteinmad]

Unless the developmental brand > than the "flagship".


THEN WHAT ANGRY MAN WHO WATCHES A SHOW HE DOESN'T LIKE??!?!?!?!

Then I will still watch it and still complain about it anyway. :D

[The CyNick]

Didn't care for RAW this week

[drave]

But, ROMAN REIGNS?!

[KIRA]

Didn't care for RAW this week

You?...no way,I mean it surely it had the masterfully booked, uber-talented, compelling figure, that is Roman Reigns in it? This show must've sucked balls I'll DL to see how awful it was.

[The CyNick]

But, ROMAN REIGNS?!

He was good. Slammys were poorly executed IMO.

[The CyNick]

You?...no way,I mean it surely it had the masterfully booked, uber-talented, compelling figure, that is Roman Reigns in it? This show must've sucked balls I'll DL to see how awful it was.

I wouldn't go that far.

I thought Roman continues to settle into his spot. WWE did amazing work to get him over like he is.

My beef was with the slammys themselves. Lots of awards to guys who aren't there. Didn't really get why Seth hugged Steph or Paige hugged Nikki.

It was a throwaway show because they are building to next week and also the live SD.

[Rammsteinmad]

Lol CyNick come on you can do better than that. It's like you're not even trying now.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Triple H and Steph are loading the rocket fuel for the ship that is NXT. In 2017 they will launch the rocket de NXT and separate from the WWE entirely. Cue Bobby Lashley's theme

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Allow me to cue up the BEST Lashley theme for the King...

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[Ultra Mantis]

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Death by Slap-Slap

That is cringe worthy. The Authority really should just fuck off already.

[Shadrick]

He was good. Slammys were poorly executed IMO.

Bullshit, WWE does everything perfect.

[#1-norm-fan]

Remember a few years ago when Superstar of the Year was awarded via winning a match?

lol Silly

[The CyNick]

Remember a few years ago when Superstar of the Year was awarded via winning a match?

lol Silly

The whole concept is largely silly. It's sports entertainment, it's a silly thing to begin with.

[Big Vic]

An early holiday toast to good business.

[The CyNick]

And I'm glad NXT wasn't involved in the Slammy's for the same reason that I don't want any NXT matches at Wrestlemania.

NXT is the "developmental brand".

Yes, it is all part of the WWE product, and is the best thing WWE is doing right now. But the bottom line, is that it's the developmental brand. It's "the future" and all that bollocks. Nobody from NXT should be winning Slammy's or having feature matches at Wrestlemania if they're not up to the level of being on the flagship show/roster.

Any NXT involvement in WWE programming will disappoint people who like what NXT is.

I think I mentioned this in another thread, but I think what happens with NXT in 2016 will be the most interesting story of the year.

NXT to me right now is in a perfect spot. The show airs on WWE Network, which is a captive audience. Because you have that captive audience, you can book in a manner that appeals to hardcore fans. Some of the hardcore fanbase of WWE seems to be less interested in the main product than they once were, so NXT becomes this underground product. They can still tour in front of small audiences, without the pressure of playing 7-10K people every night. At the same time they can still do 8 or so shows per year piggybacking off major WWE events, that draw 10-15k people.

The issue will become how they look to grow NXT as a business unit. I think there will be a push to get NXT on cable in some form. Thats where things get scary because then you need to appeal to the wider audience and the booking likely changes.

[KIRA]

Any NXT involvement in WWE programming will disappoint people who like what NXT is.

I think I mentioned this in another thread, but I think what happens with NXT in 2016 will be the most interesting story of the year.

NXT to me right now is in a perfect spot. The show airs on WWE Network, which is a captive audience. Because you have that captive audience, you can book in a manner that appeals to hardcore fans. Some of the hardcore fanbase of WWE seems to be less interested in the main product than they once were, so NXT becomes this underground product. They can still tour in front of small audiences, without the pressure of playing 7-10K people every night. At the same time they can still do 8 or so shows per year piggybacking off major WWE events, that draw 10-15k people.

The issue will become how they look to grow NXT as a business unit. I think there will be a push to get NXT on cable in some form. Thats where things get scary because then you need to appeal to the wider audience and the booking likely changes.

Change how if the responses are any indication on the main show all people want and love to see is really good wrestling thats what NXT does can't see what they would need to change. Being more like RAW would just mean lame duck comedy and endless promos with 4 matches just kinda thrown in.

[Simple Fan]

NXT won't be on cable. Why would WWE take their best programing off the WWE Network? Hell they should put Smackdown on the Network

[Emperor Smeat]

NXT doesn't need to change in order to be on cable. If a tv network makes a bid for NXT, its because they want that show and not some watered down or drastically changed show.