Wrestling's Scummiest Smelly Meatball?

[hb2k]

So for this week's podcast, we're going to look at some of the scummiest things wrestling promoters have ever done in a misguided effort to draw money, get somebody over, or attract attention, and as always we'd like your suggestions for this lofty title.

So the question is simply - what lowlife act or tasteless decision, on screen or off, do you find to be the most scummy and appalling, and why? As always the best contributions will be read on the show and you'll be credited accordingly, and given we're talking any promotion ever, you're probably spoiled for choice. So what's your personal pick?

EDIT - Part 1 of our series discussing Wrestling's Scummiest Moments and taking your suggestions is now online and available to listen to at the following link: http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/play/vhqi8e/SCGRadio67-ScummiestMomentsPart1.mp3

EDIT - Part 2 of our series discussing Wrestling Scummiest Moments and taking your suggestions is now online and available to listen to at the following link: http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/play/yge5if/SCGRadio69-ScummiestMomentsPart2.mp3

[Vastardikai]

This is gonna be difficult. That said, I am gonna go with the Fritz Von Erich heart attack angle in World Class.

[Shisen Kopf]

Katie Vick was a classy moment so not that. Probably CM Punk dumping Paul Bearers ashes like 2 weeks after he died.

[Theo Dious]

Katie Vick was a classy moment so not that. Probably CM Punk dumping Paul Bearers ashes like 2 weeks after he died.

Dude, those weren't supposed to be HIS ashes. I thought this crap was cleared up years ago.

[Mercenary]

aNY THING THOSE BACK YARD FOOLS TRY TO POOL OFF AS WRESTLING

[Big Vic]

Randy Ortons character after the death of Eddie Guerrero....

Also didn't Carlos Calon run an angle off the Bruiser Brody stabbing?... vaguely remember hearing something about that.

[Big Vic]

Yeah this might be worse than the Eddie thing.Katie Vick was a classy moment so not that. Probably CM Punk dumping Paul Bearers ashes like 2 weeks after he died.

[Theo Dious]

Let me just knock out a few that will come up.

It's not Katie Vick. That was just dumb. It was a fictional character and nobody ever actually fucked a corpse.
It's not the Eddie Gurrerro post-death stuff. That was tacky and disrespectful but you know what, after the "I'm Your Papi" storyline Eddie would have no place to complain.
It's not the Benoit tribute show, that was just really bad judgment in the midst of an unprecedented disaster.
It's not finishing the show after Owen died. That's what performers do in that situation. If the crowd didn't agree then they were free to leave and I don't think any of the wrestlers were forced to perform.
Gonna think about this some more. Stay tuned.

[Mercenary]

Ok serious response Vince making Trish strip and bark like A dog

[Nicky Fives]

Paul Bearer would have loved the CM Punk angle, so definitely that..... I'd have to go with Katie Vick....

[CSL]

in terms of recent stuff, the Reid Flair stuff was pretty low-brow

[Theo Dious]

Ok serious response Vince making Trish strip and bark like A dog

Trish has stated repeatedly that she never had a problem with it.

[Fignuts]

Bret Hart writing in his book about all the women he cheated on his wife with while she was at home raising their kids, and trying to act like a victim/gain sympathy for it.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Making people wrestle CM Punk. He seems like he would absolutely reek, and making other people have to be that close to him is disgusting.

[Big Vic]

Bret Hart writing in his book about all the women he cheated on his wife with while she was at home raising their kids, and trying to act like a victim/gain sympathy for it.
Lol you have a transcript?

[CSL]

maybe that promoter who brought a completely height-of-his-problems Scott Hall out for that one indy show despite the fact he should probably have been in hospital, let alone in front of an audience. The Fritz heart attack as been mentioned. I'm not entirely against that kind of stuff but it was a bit too close to the bone given what had gone on with a couple of his sons already. There may be something there with Snuka killing his GF and Vince showing up at the police station but I doubt we'll ever know the full story.

[CSL]

Bret Hart writing in his book about all the women he cheated on his wife with while she was at home raising their kids, and trying to act like a victim/gain sympathy for it.

lol yeah, "Julie was a bitch, I didn't want to be lonely, the boys like pills, I liked girls" then describes a bunch of them in almost Mills & Boon esque detail

[Maluco]

Eugene was pretty poor taste imo. It was cribgeworthy and unfunny at times and I am sure parents watching with special needs children didn't feel particularly good about it.

The one that really annoyed me though was Muhammed Hassan. They had successfully built up this really layered character who was a heel, but was justified in his frustration at what he perceived to be mistreatment of Muslim people post-9/11. It is still topical today and was really interesting and I was intrigued to see where he might go as a character.

Then out of nowhere he basically orders a bunch of hooded terrorists to the ring to get the Undertaker, going for cheap shock value and basically saying, yeah, I am exactly what I was protesting against being a few weeks ago. It was horribly poor taste and robbed us of a really interesting character and personality.

[Maluco]

lol yeah, "Julie was a bitch, I didn't want to be lonely, the boys like pills, I liked girls" then describes a bunch of them in almost Mills & Boon esque detail

Lmao, remember reading this on a flight once and just couldn't get my head round what angle he was going for. Fair enough admitting it, but why is he feeling sorry for himself?

[Fignuts]

It essentially amounted to "I know it's bad but they're soooo hot. God it sucks being me."

[Fignuts]

Eugene was pretty poor taste imo. It was cribgeworthy and unfunny at times and I am sure parents watching with special needs children didn't feel particularly good about it.

The one that really annoyed me though was Muhammed Hassan. They had successfully built up this really layered character who was a heel, but was justified in his frustration at what he perceived to be mistreatment of Muslim people post-9/11. It is still topical today and was really interesting and I was intrigued to see where he might go as a character.

Then out of nowhere he basically orders a bunch of hooded terrorists to the ring to get the Undertaker, going for cheap shock value and basically saying, yeah, I am exactly what I was protesting against being a few weeks ago. It was horribly poor taste and robbed us of a really interesting character and personality.

Eugene is kind of a grey area for me. Seems terrible that they'd have someone pretending to be handicapped, but at the same time he was booked as an inspirational character, and I know for a fact that he had some positive effect in that regard.

[Bad News Gertner]

This is gonna be difficult. That said, I am gonna go with the Fritz Von Erich heart attack angle in World Class.

That's the first thing that came to mind

[Bad News Gertner]

One word: Oklahoma. Russo and Ferrera mocking Jim Ross's Bells Palsy was horrible. It came off as two 12 year old being mean......but those two."12 year olds" were in their late 30's. It was un necessary and mean.

[Exyle]

Sunny's treatment of Chris Candido has to be high on the list. All accounts seem to indicate that he was genuinely in love with her and she treated him like garbage... strung him along while she fucked whoever she wanted. Lots of rumors and speculation, but I think there's enough congruence among the "rumors" to indicate that she was genuinely evil to him.

[thekrow]

I would like to add to this list with Devastator's incidents and behavior at the end of season 5 in 2014. Ultimately it ended up costing Devastator his job as CHW had to release him officially "due to unprofessional conduct". As a funding member of CHW, it was a huge shock and a really scummy moment for Devastator to do this not only to himself but also to all CHW fans across the world.

[Big Vic]

Damn i dunno how good of an idea it is to fire one of your funders.

[Bad News Gertner]

But what about this sick meme Chimera gave me. Can I still use it?

[Emperor Smeat]

Vince's interview with Brian Pillman's wife shortly after his death. Done both for a ratings ploy and I think to get the wife to publicly say the WWF nor wrestling had any role in his death.

[thekrow]

Damn i dunno how good of an idea it is to fire one of your funders.

Devastator screwed Devastator unfortunately...no one else to blame.

[Exyle]

Maybe Piggy James or farting Natalya, too. Lump all of that into the "women, lawl" category of scumminess.

[Stickman]

Anything New Jack

[Big Vic]

Maybe Piggy James or farting Natalya, too. Lump all of that into the "women, lawl" category of scumminess.
I was listening to a podcast one time and Mickie James was the guest talking about how she didn't like that storyline, and one call calls up and earnestly states "Yeah before they ran that story line I noticed you were bigger"

She was kinda perturbed.

[Bad News Gertner]

Mickie James is fat, so it's not scumy.

[The Condor]

How has no one mentioned Steph turning the 9/11 attacks into a diatribe against the US government for going after her father during the steroid scandal?

Perhaps a tweet from Big Steph earlier this year wherein she wants to use philanthropy as a marketing tool ::Warrior Award::.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Trying to pass off Rosa Mendes as a woman was a bit out of order too. It wasn't even like he was a good wrestler. Strange situation all around.

[KIRA]

Wrestling wise I'd say Vince mocking JR's Bells palsy with a B.A star poster visible in the background just proves this company does not give a shit about the causes they promote

Non wrestling their association with Susan G coleman organization only so much of the money they make actually goes to research the larger part to their CEO

Also they sue charities that use certain words that they have trademarked in short its a horrible organization and a scam theres no way WWE isn't aware of all this. So pretending to actually give a shit is the scummiest thing the WWE does IMO

[Hanso Amore]

Ian rotten and his redneck drones helping beat that one guy after his match with Mickie knuckles in some hardcore crap in a gas station parking lot.

The guy was like some fat untrained loser and they used it all as a chance to try to put themselves over and shoot on some loser.

[Vastardikai]

That time the tournament of death almost became just that.

Or WWE coordination in an employee's lawsuit against CM Punk.

[The Condor]

Or WWE coordination in an employee's lawsuit against CM Punk.

Is it scummy if the doctor has a good case?

[Vastardikai]

Is it scummy if the doctor has a good case?

Defamation is very hard to prove. It going to trial could go poorly for WWE.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ian rotten and his redneck drones helping beat that one guy after his match with Mickie knuckles in some hardcore crap in a gas station parking lot.

The guy was like some fat untrained loser and they used it all as a chance to try to put themselves over and shoot on some loser.

Lol that dude thought it was the greatest thing ever. Mickie Knuckle headbutted him.and.it.caused a big goose egg on her forehead, so they blamed him. His name was the White Lion Mike....ah fuck can't remember the last name.

[Exyle]

Oh, here's another good one. Jeff Hardy shows up for a world title match so fucked up he can barely walk.

...and they still let him go out there.

[Savio]

Lol that dude thought it was the greatest thing ever. Mickie Knuckle headbutted him.and.it.caused a big goose egg on her forehead, so they blamed him. His name was the White Lion Mike....ah fuck can't remember the last name.
Is this the instance where they put his head between the ladder and double foot stomped it?

[Emperor Smeat]

Lol that dude thought it was the greatest thing ever. Mickie Knuckle headbutted him.and.it.caused a big goose egg on her forehead, so they blamed him. His name was the White Lion Mike....ah fuck can't remember the last name.

Did she also get a different injury in that match or was it shortly afterwards?

Remember a bit about TNA quickly getting rid of her but don't remember if it was because of her getting hurt from that incident.

[Bad News Gertner]

I just remember her having a giant goose egg on her head. I think that injury happened a little later

[Hanso Amore]

White lion Mike levy I googled it to remember.

They were pissed he "put her national tv contract at risk"

Meanwhile she was in a death match in a back yard.

A bit later she did a new jack dive and broke her legs and lost her tna deal on her own

[Hanso Amore]

Is this the instance where they put his head between the ladder and double foot stomped it?

Yes like three or four times.

Ian even let his kids whack the guy with a kendo stick

[Theo Dious]

Defamation is very hard to prove. It going to trial could go poorly for WWE.

Hard to prove? Punk accused the man of willful neglect on a universally ablvailable podcast and stated flat-out that it could have resulted in his death. If he can't back that up now it seems pretty clear to me. I don't see how WWE can be faulted for going in with their employee when WWE was as much a target of the comments as he was.

[Theo Dious]

Oh, here's another good one. Jeff Hardy shows up for a world title match so fucked up he can barely walk.

...and they still let him go out there.

I think I have to go with this one. You can talk about exploiting deaths or doing things for shock value, but in this case you're talking about sending a guyear who was a clear danger to himself and everyone around him out to wrestle when there were plenty of other options. The simplest being "ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Hardy was beaten unconscious by _____ in the back and will be unable to compete, taking his place in this match will be _____!" It was going to be damaging enough when the real story came out, letting it happen the way it did was a cannonball in the hull. And why? To give 5 he fans the match that was advertised? Thankfully all that happened was Hardy looked like a total jerkass; performing in any way in the state he was in threatened the safety of everyone on both sides of the barricades. It was lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible, and straight up appalling.

[drave]

There a video of that match? Was he noticeably fucked up?

[drave]

Found it.

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[drave]

Damn.... a couple punches and the death drop. Stiff death drop and he totally kept him down (for realsies) on the pin. Never seen Sting look so pissed, and well within his rights.

[hb2k]

I want to thank everybody for the contributions, we got to read many of them on the show, which is now available at the following link:

http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/play/vhqi8e/SCGRadio67-ScummiestMomentsPart1.mp3

Join us for Part 1 of our 2 Part Series looking at some of the Scummiest Moments in Wrestling History, as the panel takes your nominations for the lofty title, talking Over The Edge 99, Al Wilson, the many lowbrow acts of Fritz Von Erich, the Lex Luger Confidential Piece, Oklahoma, the Benoit Tribute Show, Vince McMahon's treatment of Jim Ross, the exploitation of Melanie Pillman, the Muhammed Hassan angle with the Undertaker and many, many more. Check it out and let us know what you think!

[hb2k]

I want to thank everybody for the contributions, we got to read many of them on the show, which is now available at the following link:

http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/play/yge5if/SCGRadio69-ScummiestMomentsPart2.mp3

Join us for Part 2!!! We look at some more of the Scummiest Moments in Wrestling History, as the panel takes your nominations for the lofty title, talking such utterly classless topics as the treatment of Eddie Guerrero's passing, the murder of Bruiser Brody and glorification of Invader #1, Ian Rotten and Rob Black's existence, Trish Stratus barking like a dog, various racial exploitation, the Mass Transit incident, Jeff Hardy at THAT TNA PPV, Fabulous Moolah and Billy Wolfe's treatment of women's wrestling, Roddy Piper's TNA appearance and many, many more. Check it out and let us know what you think!