UPDATED: PWInsider confirms big matches for WrestleMania 32 (UPDATED)

[slik]

For those who thought Kalisto's win over Alberto Del Rio was a fluke, inside sources have elsewise to say. There is internal talk of Kalisto eliminating Brock Lesnar at the Rumble, not unlike Maven and Undertaker a couple of years ago. The feeling in WWE is that this could build Kalisto into the Hispanic star WWE is looking for. The push will likely continue with Kalisto playing the ultimate underdog in a match with Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania 32.

Other internal talk is that The Rock will not be wrestling at the event, due to issues with insurance and the films he is working on preventing any in-ring action. The Rock is expected to do a comedy style segment during the show at some point. There is talk HHH is suffering from an undisclosed injury from training involving his pectoral so he will not be wrestling on the card but will also be seen in an on-camera role at the event.

As for the other big name matches on the card, WWE is going to heavily market this as Undertaker's last match. With Cena, who was scheduled to face Undertaker, out of action most likely Kane will step into the role of Undertaker's opponent for his final match. Talk is currently the match will be a casket match and that both Kane and Undertaker will be finished with WWE once it is over. Roman Reigns is scheduled to remain WWE Champion through WrestleMania and the internal goal right now is to create a viable and new threat to his title. WWE is looking to have the final two men in the Royal Rumble be Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman, with Roman getting the win here but continuing to push Strowman up until a match for the WWE Title with Reigns at WrestleMania 32.

Stephen Amell will be back to wrestle another match against Star Dust in the annual celebrity involvement match - Look for this to possibly be a lumberjack match to help get as many wrestlers on the card as possible.

- tpwwnet, Ryan Clark

[CSL]

Ryan Clark is talking out of his arse

[Jordan]

Goddamn that would be the worst mania ever

[#1-norm-fan]

lol Ridiculousness.

[CSL]

if we see Brock/Kalisto or Reigns/Strowman at WrestleMania, I will post a video of me eating my own ass on here. He's talking shit.

[Schlomey]

Strowman is literally the worst. He is the Khali of 2016.
What a SHIT card. I hope his ass tastes like cream cheeese cuz he can eat that.

[Big Vic]

Awesome card, can't wait.

[Schlomey]

I remember an interview from a few years ago where Kane admitted that when his time is up he wants to go out in one last blaze of glory vs his "brother" at Wrestlemania. So that could be a legit option.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE must be really dire for big names if Strowman right now is a possible contender for a title match at Mania. Also feels like it would just be the typical big man or monster heel type push that was done countless times with Cena and quickly tossed to the side after the first big loss.

[Big Vic]

PS slik is lying

[Frank Drebin]

Kofi/Brock II

[Shisen Kopf]

John Cena's brother Ron will be debuting in the next few weeks

[Evil Vito]

if we see Brock/Kalisto or Reigns/Strowman at WrestleMania, I will post a video of me eating my own ass on here. He's talking shit.

<font color=goldenrod>Gonna have to go ahead and quote this for later even though there's a better chance at winning the Powerball than there is of this card being true.</font>

[Frank Drebin]

What if one of those matches happen? Would you do it......half assed?

[CSL]

if one of those matches happen, it will be a five course ass platter, there'll be ass cocktail, ass on toast, ass flambe, poached ass and ass trifle for dessert

[drave]

Gotta have some ass kale. Kale is "the thing" now.

[The Destroyer]

Appropriate, as it tastes like ass.

[Frank Drebin]

Excuse me, I'd like to....ass you a few questions.

[Frank Drebin]

About your Toyota

[Shadrick]

if one of those matches happen, it will be a five course ass platter, there'll be ass cocktail, ass on toast, ass flambe, poached ass and ass trifle for dessert

don't threaten me with a good time

[CSL]

WHAT U KNOW BOUT ASS TRIFLE

[Stickman]

That would go down as the worst WM ever.

[Shisen Kopf]

Should make the main event a fatal four way. Reigns, Strowman, Big Show and Khali. That way Reigns will look even tougher when he wins this technical masterpiece. He would have beaten all the big boys of the WWE

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ryan the Shitman Clark.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ryan Clark has gotten pretty lazy copying other websites news lately. He's posting stuff days after it's been reported.

[drave]

#ShutItDown

[Wishbone]

Lol bull fucking shit to all of that. Kalisto eliminating Lesnar? Please. WWE couldn't even be bothered to push Rey fucking Mysterio when they gave him the title. Why in the hell would they suddenly push Kalisto like that? Ryan Clark is an ignorant, no dicked mongoloid who couldn't report his way out of a paper sack.

[slik]

Kalisto won the U.S. Title clean on RAW tonight...

[Wishbone]

Kalisto won the U.S. Title clean on RAW tonight...

1) Thanks for the spoiler warning, bro. Real nice.

2) The U.S. Title is a jobber belt. How does that translate to having a match with WWE's biggest draw on the roster today at Wrestlemania, and eliminating him at the Royal Rumble?

[slik]

U r welcome

this is a spoiler thread for WM and u r worried about RAW spoilers...sm DAMN h

[CSL]

Kalisto won the U.S. Title clean on RAW tonight...

this has been "in the pipeline"/the plan since Cena got hurt. Now I'd guess there'll be a rematch at the Rumble

[Wishbone]

U r welcome

this is a spoiler thread for WM and u r worried about RAW spoilers...sm DAMN h

No, this is a Ryan Clark presents a bullshit lineup for Wrestlemania that he made up using WWE 2k16 and that you actually think could happen because you're mentally slow thread.

[Heisenberg]

Ryan Sheep

[Big Vic]

I'm not sure the US title is a jobber belt but it might be again soon.

[DAMN iNATOR]

U r welcome

this is a spoiler thread for WM and u r worried about RAW spoilers...sm DAMN h

I'll be sending you my bill for royalties ASAP. :shifty:

[Heisenberg]

I was just starting to like Kalisto and they go and pull this crap. Meltzer sheep

[Shisen Kopf]

I'll be sending you my bill for royalties ASAP. :shifty:

You have wwe 2k16 for PS3 right, not PS4??

[Heisenberg]

Jericho busting out the Lionheart/Man of 1,001 Moves shtick and feuding with Kalisto would be awesome

[Simple Fan]

I would like to see a Heyman promo on Kalisto. Dont know if Paul would even waste his breath though.

[CSL]

Jericho busting out the Lionheart/Man of 1,001 Moves shtick and feuding with Kalisto would be awesome

I'd get on board with that, head and shoulders Jericho's best matches of his career were with Rey Mysterio

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd be interested in seeing that match, even though I haven't really been interested in Jericho since his feud with Punk ended.

Pains me to say that since Jericho is probably my favorite wrestler ever.</font>

[mike adamle]

I'd get on board with that, head and shoulders Jericho's best matches of his career were with Rey Mysterio

Just below the HBK series with Y2J for me. But yeah Kalisto-Jericho would be good. But I really wouldn't be against Kalisto-Lesnar at all either.

[Locke]

Kalisto winning yesterday really has nothing to do with the first part of the original post

[Icame4Hookers]

Is Ryan still a virgin living at home? I can hook him up if he wish's.
Wrestlemania is no longer a flag ship pay per view.. well in my eyes.

[Big Vic]

I'd be interested in seeing that match, even though I haven't really been interested in Jericho since his feud with Punk ended.

Pains me to say that since Jericho is probably my favorite wrestler ever.
What about his feud with Fandango?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Love Jericho. Love Fandango. But the feud felt really weird since it was clearly just thrown together willy-nilly.

Also it's not like going over Jericho clean at WrestleMania did anything for Fandango. :( What a waste.</font>

[The CyNick]

<font color=goldenrod>Love Jericho. Love Fandango. But the feud felt really weird since it was clearly just thrown together willy-nilly.

Also it's not like going over Jericho clean at WrestleMania did anything for Fandango. :( What a waste.</font>

It was the right idea to give a young guy a win over an established name. Just the wrong guy to do it with, because Fandango is garbage.

Classic case of getting wrapped up in the troll audiences that attend the RAW after Mania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fandango manipulating Jericho into the feud was an interesting way to kick things off. Fandango beating Jericho at WrestleMania 29 was a good move. I think they should have put Fandango over Jericho at Extreme Rules in some sort of Ballroom Brawl though. Really hammer home that the dude is a threat.

[#1-norm-fan]

But they didn't because every feud has to be 50/50 so that no one stands out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I have it on good authority that although the WWE won't be putting Kalisto against Brock Lesnar, that they will be putting Kalisto against him on the Road to WrestleMania. Vince apparently hopes that Brock destroying Kalisto will gain him sympathy. Of course, Kalisto will sell the beating Brock gives him long enough that fan interest dies down by the time Kalisto returns.

The Undertaker vs. Kane has apparently been requested by both men, but they are nervous about delivering on such a big stage. Pitched was The Undertaker & Kane vs. Alberto Del Rio & Sheamus -- given the two having a reputation for being good workers -- with the winning team facing each other. Del Rio & Sheamus would be fighting over who is the leader of the League of Nations, but they would put over Kane & Taker, who would then just wrestle a bare-boned match against each other.

Braun Strowman is expected to win the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, not the WWE Title. The match will come down between him and Big Show, teasing a Strowman face-turn and break away from The Wyatt Family. Hideo Itami is expected to feud with Big Show heading into the Battle Royal and coming out of it, forging an alliance with Strowman in the process. Vince McMahon hopes that the two will form a cute "big buddy/little buddy" tag team that will eventually get Strowman over and put Itami's ring work to good use.

The report that Triple H is injured is correct, but Triple H will play a major part in the Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns WWE Title match. Both parties will accuse the other of being in Triple H's pocket, leading to a big segment where Paul Heyman calls Stephanie McMahon a "conniving bitch" because he suspects something is up. Triple H will then Pedigree Heyman in order to build some major tension for the Mania showdown and have fans asking questions about what is going to happen. Stone Cold Steve Austin has been rumored to be the special guest enforcer for the match, to ensure that Triple H makes a "fair" decision as referee.

Chris Jericho has reportedly asked to work with Rusev for the event. Jericho is apparently a bit regretful that he didn't play up the fact he was born in America during most of his WWE run, so he will start doing a "United States of Jericho" gimmick when he wins the US Title from Alberto Del Rio at Fastlane. Vince is hoping to market "Jerigreen Cards" to people. Zeb Colter is expected to return during this program to take a Codebreaker from Jericho. It was written into Colter's deal that he'd appear in some form at WrestleMania, but there is heat on Colter for not making the "Mex-America" thing work, so it will be in video montages of him getting Codebroken by Jericho, played at least three times during the night. JBL's line for when Jericho delivers that move is "Down goes the old man!" Listen for it.

Speaking of Zeb Colter, there has been ideas thrown around to have him manage The Social Outcasts. Vince is said to be a big fan of Heath Slater, because he just laughs and laughs when he looks at him. The Rock really wants to be involved with Curtis Axel and Heath Slater at WrestleMania. If they can bypass the insurance issue, a talked about match for WrestleMania is The Rock teaming up with The Usos to face The Social Outcasts. Damien Sandow has been talked about as a possibility to even up the face side. Damien Sandow will likely go by "Damo Uso" for the show. If The Rock can't wrestle, Jack Swagger will be pigeon-holed in.

No word yet on if The New Day, Dean Ambrose and Kevin Owens will be featured on the card. As IC Champion, when the answer comes to Dean Ambrose, many believe that the answer is "No," but it is possible that he will face The Miz and King Barrett on the pre-show in a "Who the better actor is" feud. R-Truth is rumored to be getting involved like he did in the IC Title picture last year (stealing it and such).

Owens vs. Sami Zayn has been seen as having "no drawing potential" by Vince, who instead wants Kevin Owens to put over the next big babyface -- Ryback again. This leaves Bray Wyatt to team up with Luke Harper and Erick Rowan to face The New Day. Most backstage think that The New Day will win to keep Bray's WrestleMania losing streak going, to eventually get him over, and to lead to Bray Wyatt being upset at Braun Strowman for winning at WrestleMania when he didn't -- leading to a feud between The Family and Strowman/Itami.

No one cares about the Divas match, but it is scheduled to be something like Charlotte vs. Brie Bella.

So the WrestleMania card is shaping up to look like this:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Special Guest Referee: Triple H
Special Guest Enforcer: Stone Cold Steve Austin
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns

Winners Face Each Other
The Undertaker & Kane vs. Sheamus & Alberto Del Rio

United States Championship
Chris Jericho (c) vs. Rusev

Clip Show
Zeb Colter is Codebroken

8-Man Tag Team Match
The People's People (Jack Swagger or The Rock, The Usos & Damo Uso) vs. The Social Outcasts

Kevin Owens vs. Ryback

6-Man Tag Team Match
The Wyatt Family vs. The New Day

Public Eulogy
Kalisto is remembered

Divas Championship
Charlotte (c) vs. Brie Bella

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Won by Braun Strowman

Triple Threat Kickoff Match - Intercontinental Championship
Dean Ambrose (c) vs. King Barrett vs. The Miz

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's all true, I swear.

[Mr. Nerfect]

By the way, expected results:

* Dean Ambrose retains the IC Title, because they want a face to win leading into Mania.

* Strowman wins the Battle Royal, as reported.

* Becky Lynch is expected to turn heel on the heel Charlotte against the face and heel Brie Bella, costing Charlotte the title. Becky is expected to change her ring name to "Becky Bella" after the match, leading to a face turn from Alicia Fox who feels replaced. This will be to pair up Charlotte and Fox as "Team Tapout" in order to highlight their prominence in the Tapout commercials.

* Kalisto returns in May for Payback, which is held in Chicago, which is his hometown, but they don't tell anybody about that.

* The New Day win, as we reported, but The Wyatt Family will be champions by then, because Vince doesn't like the idea of champions winning a non-title match at WrestleMania.

* Ryback squashes Owens, who demands a rematch, but loses twice then. More time will be focused on the "Feed me more!" chants.

* The Rock's team, even if he's not in it, will go over the heels in their tag team match. The Rock thinks Jimmy Uso can be a big star, so it has been suggested that he gets the pin for his team.

* Zeb Colter remembers what wrestling used to be like, and he could just be a heel.

* Rusev will be the United States Champion coming out of WrestleMania, ready for John Cena's return. As a wedding present for Lana, Rusev will give her the "United States," which he renames to "The United States of Wonderful Woman Lana."

* Taker & Kane will win their match, which we reported, but then Kane will beat Taker in Taker's last match. Kane will take off his mask after the match, and reveal that he was crying as he pinned his brother. Taker bows down to Kane and then Kane sets off his pyro and motions that he wants the WWE Title.

* Brock Lesnar hits the F5 on Triple H at one point during the main event. Austin, as enforcer, gets in the ring and gives Brock a Stunner. A referee hits the ring, but only gets two. Roman will take out the new referee with a Spear that Brock dodges and Brock hits an F5. There's no more referees, so Austin enters the ring and only counts to two. Brock gets frustrated and gets in Austin's face. An F5 is delivered to Austin, but then Reigns hits a Spear. Triple H is back up and only gets two because he stops counting. Reigns goes to beat up Triple H, but Triple H low blows him. Brock hits the F5 and laughs. Triple H then Pedigrees Brock. Triple H looks around as he's realised what he's done to the main event. He puts Brock's arm over Reigns -- the lesser of two evils to him -- and fast counts the three.

This is to set up a series of matches between Brock, Reigns and Triple H over the spring and summer months. Austin gives Triple H a Stunner at the end of the show in order to send fans home happy. Heyman comes out in a neckbrace to celebrate with Brock, but Austin gives him a Stunner too. This is in case they can convince Austin to face Brock at WrestleMania the following year.

[Stickman]

Yeah that sounds awful as well. Going to be the worst mania ever.

[Evil Vito]

It was the right idea to give a young guy a win over an established name. Just the wrong guy to do it with, because Fandango is garbage.

Classic case of getting wrapped up in the troll audiences that attend the RAW after Mania.

<font color=goldenrod>Except...you know, the decision to put Fandango over Jericho at WrestleMania was made the night before the crowd made "Fandango"ing a thing. But go on.</font>

[Big Vic]

Vince knew fandangoing would be a thing[/CyNick logic]

[Tom Guycott]

Strowman is literally the worst. He is the Khali of 2016.
What a SHIT card. I hope his ass tastes like cream cheeese cuz he can eat that.

<font color=goldenrod>Gonna have to go ahead and quote this for later even though there's a better chance at winning the Powerball than there is of this card being true.</font>

What if one of those matches happen? Would you do it......half assed?

if one of those matches happen, it will be a five course ass platter, there'll be ass cocktail, ass on toast, ass flambe, poached ass and ass trifle for dessert

Gotta have some ass kale. Kale is "the thing" now.

Appropriate, as it tastes like ass.

don't threaten me with a good time

WHAT U KNOW BOUT ASS TRIFLE

.... all this happened, and not one Shaquille O'Neal reference.

[drave]

CSL talkin bout eating ass > Shaq, wrestling related or not.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The funny thing is I think we can all see WWE's side, and understand a sort of devil's advocate approach.

We get things like WWE being an upper body business, which is why Chris Hero got dropped (plus he was also boring as fuck) and why it'll always be a struggle for a guy like Kevin Owens. Yeah he's super fucking talented and he's clearly fit particularly for a man his size. But this is the entertainment business and unfortunately there are just harsh realities etc. If it were up to me I'd let things like that go, but I totally understand the body fetish, it adds a certain grandeur larger than life feel to the product.

Also, for all the talk about ratings in other threads, they really don't mean fuck all at this point, because there is actually no competition. So yeah, the ratings are pretty paltry. Even if the product was great I feel like they would only realistically be around a 4-5 versus the consistent 6-7s of 2000-halfway through 2001. Part of that is due to the network and teevo etc. BUT at the end of the day, it's not really a giant stretch to suggest that if this was MUST WATCH TV and an institution like was during a very, very, very strong 2000, people would simply teevo it and the ratings would still be what they were in 1995 seems (because that is almost what they are around) ignorant. If this was must see TV like Walking Dead (which I hate) and Game of Thrones (which I like but stopped watching), then people would go out of their way to watch it and ratings wouldn't be so MEH. As I said though, being the only show in town allows your ratings to not mean much. Yeah there's a bare minimum they need to be able to maintain so they don't look like a complete fucking joke but Monday Night t.v. isn't exactly that strong. There's not much competition other than when the NFL season is underway, and the ratings aren't that much better when there's not NFL.

We don't think we can do a better job than Vince. We just don't think Vince can do a better job than say the Vince of the 80s or HHH running the show. While I think for instance creatively I would like to see Noid's fantasy booking ideas (for instance) more than the dreck that is RAW, they are just fantasy ideas. We don't understand all of the inner workings of the backstage environment, we don't know guys attitudes and we don't have to deal with corporate pressure. However, to think it'd be better for a young guy in HHH (45 or 46 years old is young in the corporate world) who is clearly more in touch with the Audience than a 70 year old dude who his own employees admit is a little fucking crazy and I could only imagine losing his mind more so as he gets older isn't a big stretch either. This is not exactly a pipe dream, it's a realistic need that has to happen for the company to evolve.

And my last point is the problem. When wwf finally put the screws to wcw, it wasn't because the product was perfect. It was because the product evolved into something else. They stopped doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over. Characters evolved, in ring action evolved etc.

Credit to Vince and co. the business model has evolved. The production has evolved. But the in ring product has been stagnat for probably almost 12 or 13 years. We see glimpses of change, but Vince goes back to his comfort zone. That's all.

Now I do have to say this, maybe the product isn't made for me. Maybe I'm no longer supposed to enjoy it, I don't know. But I must then ask you, who is it supposed to appeal to? What is their demographic? I don't know too many people with any amount of taste who would enjoy a program with as many issues as RAW has to be honest. Children, teenagers, the elderly, invalids (Looking at you CyNick). I just can't see the appeal other than your odd cool angle (anything with Brock for the most part or Jon Cena's US title run).

[BigCrippyZ]

Now I do have to say this, maybe the product isn't made for me. Maybe I'm no longer supposed to enjoy it, I don't know. But I must then ask you, who is it supposed to appeal to? What is their demographic? I don't know too many people with any amount of taste who would enjoy a program with as many issues as RAW has to be honest. Children, teenagers, the elderly, invalids (Looking at you CyNick). I just can't see the appeal other than your odd cool angle (anything with Brock for the most part or Jon Cena's US title run).

Trying to appeal to everyone, which I think is what Vince wants to do, and you end up appealing to no one.

I do a lot of work in the music business and granted, a lot of what gets put out, I personally think is utter garbage. The difference is, the people (label/publishing execs, artists, songwriters and producers) in charge and making the music (most of them anyway) aren't trying to appeal to every single demographic. Not that they don't try to widen their target market to appeal to multiple demographics, but not at the expense of artistic integrity, product quality, or losing or alienating their most loyal, diehard customers. Once they know what kind of products (music) they want to make and what kind of artist they want to be, they do the research to find out who their target market is, how much they spend on music and how best to market to reach them.

You don't see Taylor Swift running around trying to appeal to everyone. She knows who her target audience is, especially her most loyal. She switched from "country" to pop music sure, but the transition was relatively smooth and she knew that she wouldn't lose her a large portion of her audience because of it. Plus, first album wasn't really that country to begin with but each subsequent album became a little more pop oriented. In comparison, after the Attitude & Ruthless Aggression eras, WWE randomly stopped swearing, bleeding/blading, great story lines and writing for the PG/PC era almost cold turkey. Now they've slowly reincorporated some of that back in but they've also lost about 10% of their audience every year.

The problem with WWE is Vince has either gotten so complacent or out of touch (or maybe both) that WWE's begun to compromise the integrity and quality of the product while alienating their most loyal customers in the hopes of appealing to a small segment of almost every demographic.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

100% agree. Nobody with a sane mind would discredit Taylor Swift. I mean fuck me I would never listen to her songs willingly, but you can't deny that freight train of success. A perfect combo of the right talent, marketing and timing.

Compare her to say John Cena if you want to, because you could call John Cena WWE's pop star if anything. And the guy is a fucking force of nature, he deserves so much credit. But would T Swift get booed out of her own concert? Hell no. When you #1 babyface is getting booed out of the building CONSISTANTLY, your god damned flag bearer, it suggests something bad is going on.

You know what, Hulk Hogan was NOT my cup of tea, never has been never will be. But in the 1980s there's no denying the sheer magnitude of the marketing, the appeal and the timing. Hulk Hogan in the 80s was not getting booed out of the building.

Yeah, they've at points been able to create an interesting dynamic with the booing and the booking, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place. They have hung him out to dry for far too long. You can blame in on fans trying to hijack the show. But if you have half a brain (again looking at you CyNick) you have to acknowledge when your paying audience is booing the guy they are supposed to be into, that is not the desired result. Yeah, they're still paying, and supporting the company, but that suggests to me that they love wrestling so what can they do? You only get so many chances to see a live show especially the biggest wrestling show out there. Why not give them a character they can cheer. And FYI that character for YEARS could have easily been Cena, with his ability, but due to out of touch booking instead he got booed.

[Innovator]

Now I just see Vince in his office dancing to Shake It Off

[drave]

:rofl:

[Shisen Kopf]

What a terrible card. Too bad Bam Bam Bigelow is dead or we could have LT vs Bigelow II, once in a lifetime, again

[slik]

NOOOOOOOOOOO



Source: PWInsider Elite

There has been a recent push within WWE to do a Braun Strowman vs. Brock Lesnar singles match, perhaps at WrestleMania 32. WWE ending Monday's RAW with The Wyatt Family beating Lesnar down could be a sign that they're moving in that direction.

Regarding The Wyatt Family, the idea was to use The Dudley Boyz and Tommy Dreamer as a way to get momentum going for Bray Wyatt and his crew as they head into WrestleMania 32 season.


http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2016/0120/606871/wwe-doing-a-brock-lesnar-vs-braun-strowman-singles-match-at/

[Shisen Kopf]

This is gonna be the worst WM since WM IX and at least that had the Macho Man doing commentary.

[slik]

I liked Tatanka at WMIX

Tatanka for HOF 2016! SAVE_US_Yi Yi Yi Yi Yi (Pause) Yi

[Ultra Mantis]

Fandango is garbage

Definitely the dumbest thing The CyNick has ever said, and that includes the Daniel Bryan long con nonsense.

[Mr. Nerfect]

With the WWE probably being a bit desperate for big stars, I wonder if they will make that call to Kurt Angle? I worry about him passing a WWE physical, but the guy is a freak of nature. Del Rio vs. Angle for the US Title is probably the biggest thing they could do with Del Rio.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A random WrestleMania 32 card I came up with that doesn't look right because half of the guys featured aren't full-time guys or even associated with the WWE at the moment:

WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

Street Fight
Triple H vs. Roman Reigns

The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt

Fatal 4-Way for the Women's Championship
Becky Lynch (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks vs. Paige

Triple Threat Match for the Intercontinental Championship
Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Chris Jericho

United States Championship
Kevin Owens (c) vs. AJ Styles

WWE Tag Team Championship
The New Day (c) vs. Kalisto & Mark Henry

8-Man Tag Team Match
Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, King Barrett & Rusev vs. Dolph Ziggler, Neville, Ryback & Titus O'Neil

[Mr. Nerfect]

Changing things around:

* I can't see Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble being a good idea, nor can I get behind Reigns vs. Triple H at a headline match. I just think it's too risky. Brock should be the title match, but if they can't get Rock, there's really no one else for him besides Roman Reigns. Therefore, I'm going with Triple H costing Reigns at the RR. This leads to Reigns vs. Triple H at Fastlane and Brock defending the WWE Title against Bray Wyatt. Triple H then backs Brock at WrestleMania heading into his title defense against Reigns -- who finds himself backed by The Rock.

* Add Natalya to the Divas Title match. Charlotte is officially a heel now, no? If that's the case, even if Sasha is going to be cheered, you need to have another face girl in there. Nattie is a dependable worker and deserves a WrestleMania "showcase." Yeah, it's five girls, but I think they could work together quite cohesively. I imagine Stephanie McMahon inserts her presence into the storyline to give it a "consequential" feel.

* If they get Daniel Bryan medically cleared, he's not going to be in the main event. His overness and wrestling ability will be used to get others over. The idea of a Bryan vs. Shinsuke Nakamura match is enticing, but I can't see them giving the fans that much of a great thing. I could, however, see Bryan finding himself allied with his "friends" Dolph Ziggler, Ryback and Neville against the despicable League of Nations. Another World Champion in that match gives it some "WrestleMania weight" and would make it a hot opener for the show.

* This leaves Triple H off the card as an active participant. Seems impossible, but I could see Triple H doing it as a political maneuver. "I'm not in it for myself anymore," that sort of thing -- even though he will be buzzing around the main event and interacting with The Rock. If they can get The Rock cleared, they could put Triple H vs. Rock on the main show too, as there's only then seven matches. I guess they could put something else on there too. A Hardcore Match between Rob Van Dam and Luke Harper seems random, but would be fucking sexy. And there's always the Andre Battle Royal to move up.

You end up with:

* Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE Title
* POSSIBLE MATCH: Triple H vs. The Rock
* The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt
* Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Chris Jericho vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for the IC Title
* Charlotte (c) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks vs. Paige vs. Natalya for the Divas Title (Stephanie McMahon is Special Guest Referee)
* Kevin Owens (c) vs. AJ Styles for the US Title
* The New Day (c) vs. Kalisto & Mark Henry for the Tag Team Titles
* The League of Nations vs. Dolph Ziggler, Ryback, Neville & Daniel Bryan
* POSSIBLE MATCH: Rob Van Dam vs. Luke Harper in a Hardcore Match (Commentators make RVD's WrestleMania streak a point; only happens on main card if Triple H vs. Rock can't)

The match I am iffiest on is the Tag Title one, as Kalisto & Mark Henry seem like such a random team. I can see them wanting to put Henry on the card given this might be his last WrestleMania, he's a black guy, it's Texas, etc. He's been teaming with Jack Swagger, but I don't really see Swagger as someone they will truly try to go above and beyond to get featured. Kalisto seems like their "hot button" guy at the moment. I can see them having him fly around with Kofi for a few minutes, get tossed around by Big E, tags out to Henry who cleans house, then gets the final pin to celebrate with Big Mark. I don't think it would be great, but it wouldn't be the weirdest or worst thing the WWE has ever done.

[DAMN iNATOR]

You have wwe 2k16 for PS3 right, not PS4??

360.

[Icame4Hookers]

Everyone's trying so hard in picking a wrestlemania card when
it won't appear aha, trust me it's going to be shit.

[The CyNick]

But they didn't because every feud has to be 50/50 so that no one stands out.

Do you really think that's why they book some guys like that?

[The CyNick]

<font color=goldenrod>Except...you know, the decision to put Fandango over Jericho at WrestleMania was made the night before the crowd made "Fandango"ing a thing. But go on.</font>

Misunderstanding my point.

I'm saying the booking of Fandango over Jericho was an attempt to help get Fandango over. They obviously saw something in him.

But people on here love Fandango because of the troll crowds that show up the day after Mania made him seem better than he really is.

[CSL]

you'll find the people that love Fandango here, myself included, couldn't care less about anything he's done since he left NXT/became Fandango and see the whole thing as mostly a giant waste of talent

[CSL]

hot 'IWC narrative' tho :y:

[Ultra Mantis]

I'd say 99% of the people here who love Fandango do so because of his work on NXT and for making the absolute best of the dumb gimmick he was given before Vince got bored of it and moved on to playing with his next new toy. He's very talented, can promo and looks like a star.

Your point is that every single person who was singing his theme song thinks he sucks and were doing so in a "mocking" fashion, which again, is an unbased assumption. This merciless roasting then somehow led to Fandango becoming unironically popular on here somehow for a couple of months. Is this correct? What are you actually saying?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do you really think that's why they book some guys like that?

Is it so absurd to think so? The WWE wants the WWE brand to be over and be the draw. If they got another Rock or Brock Lesnar -- someone who essentially becomes big enough to call their shots and go elsewhere -- then they might go elsewhere.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The best "Fandango" has ever been was Johnny Curtis in NXT. Nice try, CyNick.

[BigCrippyZ]

Is it so absurd to think so? The WWE wants the WWE brand to be over and be the draw. If they got another Rock or Brock Lesnar -- someone who essentially becomes big enough to call their shots and go elsewhere -- then they might go elsewhere.

Not too mention Rock can come in and basically do whatever he wants. If Rock wants to go out there and improv a segment, he can, and Vince won't say a negative thing about it to Rock, no matter how pissed Vince might be.

Rock has the talent and experience to do it, because before everyone started to have scripted promos, Rock was given the freedom and opportunity to go out in front of a live crowd and do it, practicing, failing sometimes, learning and eventually mastering it.

In addition, Rock doesn't need WWE, certainly not from a financial standpoint. If Rock goes out and pisses off Vince or WWE's sponsors, NBC Universal, etc., Rock knows he's untouchable. He's a bigger draw, especially mainstream draw, than anyone else they have on the roster currently. Rock's going to draw eyeballs and money unless he just randomly becomes a train wreck, drug addicted, criminal or something.

[The CyNick]

Is it so absurd to think so? The WWE wants the WWE brand to be over and be the draw. If they got another Rock or Brock Lesnar -- someone who essentially becomes big enough to call their shots and go elsewhere -- then they might go elsewhere.

So then you'e saying there is a perfectly logical reason to book that way. Funny, that rarely gets brought up on places like this.

I think they want another John Cena type who brings his lunch pail to work every night and brings in the crowds. Those types are tough to come by. You cant just create them out of thin air. If it was that easy, there would never be periods of transition.

[The CyNick]

The best "Fandango" has ever been was Johnny Curtis in NXT. Nice try, CyNick.

Didnt see that stuff, so dont know what youre talking about. I'm not as hardcore a fan as you.

[slik]

It's true...Undertaker vs Strowman is happening



Source: PWInsider Elite

In an update on WWE's plans for WrestleMania 32, there were some rumors of Brock Lesnar vs. Braun Strowman but that match won't be happening. Vince McMahon reportedly pushed hard for the match to happen, but Lesnar is currently scheduled to face Bray Wyatt in a singles match.

As of Monday, plans have Strowman facing The Undertaker in a singles match at WrestleMania 32. Taker is scheduled to return to WWE TV soon and start doing angles to build to the match with Braun.

Matches currently booked are:

Roman Reigns vs HHH
Brock Lesnar vs Bray Wyatt
Undertaker vs Braun Strowman
Charlotte vs Sasha Banks

[Simple Fan]

Really dont get that. In my opinion hes the worst of the Wyatts. Just dont see why you would want this guy facing Undertaker. Dude shouldnt even be on the card other than to be in the corner of Bray or Luke Harper and Eric Rowans matches.

[unclebrown]

It's true...Undertaker vs Strowman is happening

Shit damn, sounds terrible

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The Undertaker vs. Braun Strowman sounds horrible in every conceivable way.

Really want Taker/Harper now that Noid has planted the idea in my head.</font>

[Droford]

Stupid Cena having to go be hurt

[Corndad]

If that is Taker's last match immma be pissed. I realize Cena's injury changed a lot but you can't find one other capable guy ? Hell Ambrose would be a better choice. "I know I'm gonna get my ass kicked cause it's Taker at Mania but man I'm gonna go down swinging" That is a lot better option than fn Braun Strowman

[#1-norm-fan]

Been wanting Cena-Taker at WrestleMania for years. Wish it was for the streak, too. Now we have Taker in a match with no streak drama against Braun Strowman. Fun.

[ron the dial]

i think i get what vince is trying to accomplish with that match, but christ on a crutch is it going to be bad if true.

[Emperor Smeat]

Should just do Bray-Taker II and save Strowman's likely first major loss for someone that could use the rub a lot better. Same for the other idea of Lesnar-Strowman since Lesnar doesn't really gain anything from that match and both guys stand to lose out more from a feud.

Storyline-wise, Taker already got the last laugh against the Wyatts from the Soul Eating feud so there is no reason why he'd want to start that up again and against the Wyatts beast.

[Lock Jaw]

Really hope they add Becky Lynch to that title match...

[Lock Jaw]

Literally no one else for Undertaker to face right now, unless they turn The Demon Kane to do that whole thing again.

I like the Lesnar vs. Wyatt singles match (even though Wyatt will just lose again), but maybe they will throw everything together for one bad match.... Lesnar, Undertaker, The Demon Kane, Big Show vs. The Wyatt Family

[Simple Fan]

If that is Taker's last match immma be pissed. I realize Cena's injury changed a lot but you can't find one other capable guy ? Hell Ambrose would be a better choice. "I know I'm gonna get my ass kicked cause it's Taker at Mania but man I'm gonna go down swinging" That is a lot better option than fn Braun Strowman

I think Taker/Ambrose is the best way they could go.

[unclebrown]

Undertaker v.s. Finn Balor

[Mr. Nerfect]

So then you'e saying there is a perfectly logical reason to book that way. Funny, that rarely gets brought up on places like this.

I think they want another John Cena type who brings his lunch pail to work every night and brings in the crowds. Those types are tough to come by. You cant just create them out of thin air. If it was that easy, there would never be periods of transition.

It's about as logical as cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was thinking yesterday that Daniel Bryan returning to challenge The Undertaker could be absolutely awesome. That's only if he gets cleared though.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Really hate the idea of Strowman v. 'Taker. If it HAS to be one of the Wyatt boys, and if this is to be 'Taker's farewell match, why not Rowan or Harper? You know, someone who could actually USE the rub?

As it is, if they're going with Strowman, just have 'Taker win and postpone his retirement until WM 33 where hopefully you have a healthy Cena or other worthy opponent to go out against.

[drave]

So far, even Mania sounds blah.

Not even interested to watch "because its Mania".

[#1-norm-fan]

I was thinking yesterday that Daniel Bryan returning to challenge The Undertaker could be absolutely awesome. That's only if he gets cleared though.

I'd love to have seen Bryan come back and challenge Owens for the IC Title at WrestleMania. Bring the real life story of WWE not clearing him onto the show. Eventually he gets cleared and it all seems to be building to this triumphant comeback match at WrestleMania and Owens ends up winning clean and ruining the moment.

Owens gets a HUGE rub from it and it instantly sets up a post-WrestleMania story of the authority telling Bryan "I told you you weren't ready." and Bryan trying to prove he's still got it.

[drave]

I contest that Owens should win by being a dick to keep his heel cred in check.

Nothing wrong with a "clean" victory, but winning dirty against the darling that DB has become would make him even more loathed. It would also give Bryan more of a "comeback" story post-Mania.

[Sepholio]

It should really be Kane vs Taker in a retirement casket match, but it won't be. So instead of that Finn Balor should face Taker.

[BigCrippyZ]

I'd love to have seen Bryan come back and challenge Owens for the IC Title at WrestleMania. Bring the real life story of WWE not clearing him onto the show. Eventually he gets cleared and it all seems to be building to this triumphant comeback match at WrestleMania and Owens ends up winning clean and ruining the moment.

Owens gets a HUGE rub from it and it instantly sets up a post-WrestleMania story of the authority telling Bryan "I told you you weren't ready." and Bryan trying to prove he's still got it.

That would be great. Unfortunately, most of us (CyNick not included) know that WWE can't and won't write or book anything that solid currently.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd love to have seen Bryan come back and challenge Owens for the IC Title at WrestleMania. Bring the real life story of WWE not clearing him onto the show. Eventually he gets cleared and it all seems to be building to this triumphant comeback match at WrestleMania and Owens ends up winning clean and ruining the moment.

Owens gets a HUGE rub from it and it instantly sets up a post-WrestleMania story of the authority telling Bryan "I told you you weren't ready." and Bryan trying to prove he's still got it.

I like the idea of Owens vs. Bryan too. It was on my fantasy card until Owens dropped the belt.

[The CyNick]

I'd love to have seen Bryan come back and challenge Owens for the IC Title at WrestleMania. Bring the real life story of WWE not clearing him onto the show. Eventually he gets cleared and it all seems to be building to this triumphant comeback match at WrestleMania and Owens ends up winning clean and ruining the moment.

Owens gets a HUGE rub from it and it instantly sets up a post-WrestleMania story of the authority telling Bryan "I told you you weren't ready." and Bryan trying to prove he's still got it.

I wouldnt recommend WWE bring to light the fact that some guys come back too early from concussions and other serious injuries.

Easier would be to just play off the past injury and have Owens target the neck and win clean.

That said, if Bryan is 100%, why wouldn't you run with him? WWE invested all that time in building him up, I'm sure they would love to capitalize on it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was playing with the idea in my mind of Owens beating Bryan, then Zayn stepping up to Owens, which triggers a moment in Daniel Bryan. He's in the ring with Owens and Zayn and then turns to Zayn and asks him why he thinks he can do something that Bryan himself couldn't do. DB then kicks the piss out of Zayn as Owens just slinks to the back.

The only reason I would turn Bryan heel is so they can have him in control of his matches and lay off the high octane stuff.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd be fine with another babyface IC Title reign for Daniel Bryan though. You don't really need the IC and US Titles floating around, so I'd also be fine with Bryan unifying those.

[The CyNick]

It's true...Undertaker vs Strowman is happening

Hopefully they come to their senses.

I know they like their big guys, but Taker isn't a point in his career where he can carry guys like Strowman to good matches.

I can see the logic though. Taker is in this weird spot where I dont think anyone believes anyone outside of Cena (injured), Lesnar (feud is done) or Reigns (in the title picture) can beat him. So anyone they put him with will come across like Punk vs Taker, where nobody believed Punk had a shot. So the logic is they have somewhat protected Strowman, and maybe people will buy Taker a sympathetic figure at Mania. I just think the match will be death.

I have no interest in another round of Taker vs Kane. None of their matches have even been amazing. At this point in both of their careers, I dont see the value.

I guess Sting is still hurt, right? Taker-Sting would have worked here.

I'm still hoping Cena can go.

[Mr. Nerfect]

World Champion: Roman Reigns
Intercontinental Champion: Daniel Bryan
Tag Team Champions: The New Day
Women's Champion: Becky Lynch

Doesn't it look right?

[The CyNick]

I'd be fine with another babyface IC Title reign for Daniel Bryan though. You don't really need the IC and US Titles floating around, so I'd also be fine with Bryan unifying those.

Bryan as IC champ would be perfect at this point. You could keep him away from Reigns, and build to a match down the line. Maybe even title for title next year.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm not ready to rule out Cena for WrestleMania yet. He's John freaking Cena and hasn't missed a WrestleMania ever. If he returns for a match against Undertaker, I don't think I could bring myself to be surprised.

[The CyNick]

World Champion: Roman Reigns
Intercontinental Champion: Daniel Bryan
Tag Team Champions: The New Day
Women's Champion: Becky Lynch

Doesn't it look right?

I would also like to Kofi grab a singles title at some point soon.

[Mr. Nerfect]

At this point, and given timeframes for returns, I think we might be getting Seth Rollins in the WrestleMania 33 main event. I think he'll return and beat Triple H at SummerSlam, and a 2017 Royal Rumble win would make sense. He's my real early three-pointer pick right now anyway. It's possible something happens and Reigns ends up against Lesnar in the main event or something.

But if Cesaro returns and is a barn-burner when he gets back, I could see him being an amazing challenger for Bryan and the IC Title at WrestleMania 33.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kofi is pretty great, but I'm fine with him and Big E being the best things in the Tag Team Division. I guess he would make a great opponent for Kalisto over the US Title though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could see a shift taking place after WrestleMania though. I could see Big E and Kofi losing the Tag Titles to The Usos, and then The New Day being moved onto something else -- possibly with Big E and Xavier Woods being the actual team moving forward, with Kofi getting focus as the singles star.

[owenbrown]

If it is going to be Triple H v Roman, I am rooting heavily for Triple H to retain.

[Simple Fan]

I would also like to Kofi grab a singles title at some point soon.

Kofi is pretty great, but I'm fine with him and Big E being the best things in the Tag Team Division. I guess he would make a great opponent for Kalisto over the US Title though.

I could see a shift taking place after WrestleMania though. I could see Big E and Kofi losing the Tag Titles to The Usos, and then The New Day being moved onto something else -- possibly with Big E and Xavier Woods being the actual team moving forward, with Kofi getting focus as the singles star.

If New Day wins a singles title, I'd like to see them treat it just like they have the tag team titles. Each one of them takes turns defending and carrying it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

World Champion: Roman Reigns
Intercontinental Champion: Daniel Bryan
Tag Team Champions: The New Day
Women's Champion: Becky Lynch

Doesn't it look right?

<img src="http://www.betweentheropes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/sasha-banks-boss-nxt-632x330.jpg" class="mainImage" data-bm="66">

[XL]

At this point, and given timeframes for returns, I think we might be getting Seth Rollins in the WrestleMania 33 main event. I think he'll return and beat Triple H at SummerSlam, and a 2017 Royal Rumble win would make sense. He's my real early three-pointer pick right now anyway. It's possible something happens and Reigns ends up against Lesnar in the main event or something.

But if Cesaro returns and is a barn-burner when he gets back, I could see him being an amazing challenger for Bryan and the IC Title at WrestleMania 33.

You could have Ambrose make the turn at Mania, costing Reigns the title, selling out to The Authority, and sort of mirroring Seth's cash-in from last year. You'd then have Ambrose vs. Reigns with actual heel/face dynamic, WWE gets around the whole "Ambrose getting a better reaction than Reigns" issue, and build towards Rollins return and getting The Shield Triple Threat over the Title we keep getting screwed out of.

[Heisenberg]

I was thinking yesterday that Daniel Bryan returning to challenge The Undertaker could be absolutely awesome. That's only if he gets cleared though.



my little brother would enjoy that, I'm hoping he gets to see Daniel Bryan LIVE at WrestleMania before D-Bry has to retire

[Mr. Nerfect]

You could have Ambrose make the turn at Mania, costing Reigns the title, selling out to The Authority, and sort of mirroring Seth's cash-in from last year. You'd then have Ambrose vs. Reigns with actual heel/face dynamic, WWE gets around the whole "Ambrose getting a better reaction than Reigns" issue, and build towards Rollins return and getting The Shield Triple Threat over the Title we keep getting screwed out of.

I think people would still cheer Ambrose. Reigns should have turned heel at Survivor Series last year.

[XL]

Well, yeah, he should have done. But it's a little late for that. Would seem to make no sense if they turn him now. Unless they align him with Vince, who screws HHH over?

[The CyNick]

I think people would still cheer Ambrose. Reigns should have turned heel at Survivor Series last year.

Ambrose would get cheered in the moment because you have the troll crowd impact at Mania.

But over the long haul, most arenas would boo him because he would be with The Authority. Gimmick wise, him acting all calm would be good heat.

Reigns would still have the segment of the audience that will be with him no matter what because they think its the cool thing to do. But you shouldnt book for those people.

[Icame4Hookers]

I really wanna see Kevin Owens vs Undertaker

[The CyNick]

I really wanna see Kevin Owens vs Undertaker

I thought that made sense.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ambrose is just cooler. You can put him in a suit and have him turn his back on everything he seemed to believe in, but people will ultimately cheer him because of his higher levels of talent and charisma.

[slik]

So does Cena count as someone 'not on the roster right now' because if not I don't get it...



The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that WWE officials have finalized the WrestleMania 32 main events and they have decided on who The Undertaker will face but we don't know who that person is. It was said that Taker's opponent is not someone on the roster right now.

On a related note, WWE officials are looking at having two Divas matches at WrestleMania 32 this year. No word yet on what those matches are but it was reported recently that Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks vs. WWE Divas Champion Charlotte in a Triple Threat was in the works. The other match would be one to get several Divas on the card.

[Emperor Smeat]

Perfect opportunity to bring this guy if Cena doesn't count or can't make it:
https://45.media.tumblr.com/c38694536da6844ab21686ffb6a09a09/tumblr_ngk4e7X5hg1rs863bo1_500.gif

Could even swerve people with the whole demon stuff making it seem like its Kane to keep it a surprise

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Who's a legit star not currently on the roster and big enough a name to wrestle Taker?

[slik]

Comments on wrestlinginc for the article seem to think it will be Barin Corbin from NXT? Why would that be a 'selling point' for WM...

[Emperor Smeat]

From another forum about the recent Observer newsletter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbdrlJKUYAAmRPr.png:large

So WWE finally gave up on Cena being a possible choice for Taker.

[Droford]

I immediately thought Austin

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Comments on wrestlinginc for the article seem to think it will be Barin Corbin from NXT? Why would that be a 'selling point' for WM...

I'd go for that. He's got something more than Strowman. He's is a heat seeking missal. Which was the Undertaker's finisher in WCW.

[Lock Jaw]

Bikertaker vs. The Drifter Elias Sampson only

[rockman725]

It depends on what they mean by "not on the roster." Technically Sting is on the roster, just not active.

I read this report and the only conclusion I come up with (unless there is something else going on that is 100% quiet) is Undertaker vs. Goldberg.

No reason at all to call up an NXT guy with the streak being broken. Only reason for a Taker match at WM is for that box office match with hype. Goldberg has stated that he'd go all in if it made sense and the money is right. With the roster being depleted I can't see why this wouldn't be a possibility.

Although, I'm sure in end it will actually be Undertaker vs. Ryberg who will be accompanied to the ring by his manager, Gillberg.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The only "not on the roster" opponent for Undertaker that I would find satisfying is Kurt Angle.

[Ruien]

Kurt Angle is coming back baby!

[Rammsteinmad]

Am I the only one who doesn't think Goldberg would be a draw anymore?

All this talk about him going all out for the right amount, would he really be worth it though? Do people even know who Goldberg is these days? It's not 1998 anymore. His 2003 run was a flop, what makes people think a 2016 run will be any different?

[road doggy dogg]

The whole suspension of Titus O'Neil is a work! He will come out on Smackdown with Teddy Long who will book him in a ONE ON ONE MATCH WIT' DA UNDATAKA! at Wrestlemania

book it

(that or Randy Orton might be ready to return by then)

[Evil Vito]

I feel like there is no chance in hell WWE would medically clear Kurt Angle for a match.

[drave]

If they do, they definitely screwed Bryan.


/tinfoil hat

[Evil Vito]

It's just tough for me to think that Angle's neck isn't being held together by bubble gum and duct tape. Would be ecstatic to see him get one last WM match though.

[CSL]

they might have problems clearing him medically for a deal/contract, it's a bit different just for a match tho and Angle can definitely still "go". But there's no way it happens.

[Innovator]

Am I the only one who doesn't think Goldberg would be a draw anymore?

All this talk about him going all out for the right amount, would he really be worth it though? Do people even know who Goldberg is these days? It's not 1998 anymore. His 2003 run was a flop, what makes people think a 2016 run will be any different?

Plus, he's 50 and hasn't done wrestling in 12 years. It's over. Maverick didn't hold onto Goose as long as fans hold onto Goldberg.

[CSL]

too soon

[CSL]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TpHYvMD-rcc/TtBTamVcI7I/AAAAAAAAWt4/6bUhNcuo28Q/s1600/TopGun_078Pyxurz.jpg

:'(

[road doggy dogg]

rip

[Big Vic]

Brock vs Goldberg II

[slik]

R.I.P. Goose

[Emperor Smeat]

Update from the Observer regarding Taker's Mania match. A lot more guys got crossed off as possible choices.

On his radio show last night, Dave Meltzer clarified his statement from the Observer. Undertaker's opponent at Mania won't be a guy like Orton who is out injured and it won't be an NXT guy like Balor. Dave says he was told it will be someone who "is not an active wrestler."

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

R.I.P. Goose

RIP Deadmeat Thompson. #HotShots

[Evil Vito]

Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,

[Innovator]

RIP Deadmeat Thompson. #HotShots

Comparing Hot Shots to Top Gun? Your ego is writing checks your body can't cash

[Evil Vito]

It's gonna be The Undertaker vs. Vince, isn't it?

[BigCrippyZ]

It's gonna be The Undertaker vs. Vince, isn't it?

Shane?

[Evil Vito]

Pretty sure Shane has left the industry altogether.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeup. Been working in Chinese internet and ppv type markets ever since he left the WWE.

Think Vince during the Stone Cold podcast Network episode teased they don't really see each other that much anymore.

[Fignuts]

Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,

Todd Pettengill sheep

[XL]

It's Punk!

He doesn't really need surgery, they offered him the legit Main Event spot against Taker in his last match, in his home state.

[The CyNick]

I love the "reporting"

I love more that people on sites like this respect the guy.

Crazy

[Vastardikai]

Again, wouldn't it benefit WWE more if, they HAD to use Taker, to use his last match to put over someone who could actually benefit?

Oh yeah, WWE logic.

[slik]

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[slik]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Reigns vs Triple H WWE title match rumored to involve a pro-Authority guest ref according to the Observer. WWE wanted Batista for the role at Mania but he turned the offer down.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They wanted Batista, he turned them down, idea is to stack the deck against Roman in fans' eyes.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/701962503459188736">February 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Corkscrewed]

HBK would work.

Oh wait, they want people to NOT cheer HHH's side...

[Volare]

Rollins good to ref?...........He can fucking hobble around we will all cheer and love him for it!

[Theo Dious]

Pretty sure Shane has left the industry altogether.

Muahaha.

[johnsmagic]

Where's AJ styles fit in to wrestlemania ?

[Mr. Nerfect]

AJ Styles & Chris Jericho will face The New Day and The League of Nations in some sort of crazy match for the Tag Team Championship.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Probably.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I love the "reporting"

I love more that people on sites like this respect the guy.

Crazy

Uh...yeah...about that...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seth Rollins as Special Guest Referee for the title match would actually be pretty awesome. They could do something along the lines of the HBK/Tyson finish.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So it looks like we'll be getting:

* Triple H vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE Title
* The Undertaker vs. Shane McMahon in Hell in a Cell
* Brock Lesnar vs. Dean Ambrose
* Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks for the Divas Title
* The New Day vs. Chris Jericho & AJ Styles vs. The League of Nations in a TLC Match for the Tag Team Titles
* Becky Lynch & Natalya vs. Team BAD
* Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
* Kevin Owens vs. Kalisto in a Champion vs. Champion Match

Or something like that. Eh, it's a card.

[drave]

So it looks like we'll be getting:

* Triple H vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE Title
* The Undertaker vs. Shane McMahon in Hell in a Cell
* Brock Lesnar vs. Dean Ambrose
* Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks for the Divas Title
* The New Day vs. Chris Jericho & AJ Styles vs. The League of Nations in a TLC Match for the Tag Team Titles
* Becky Lynch & Natalya vs. Team BAD
* Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
* Kevin Owens vs. Kalisto in a Champion vs. Champion Match

Or something like that. Eh, it's a card.

Doesn't seem like a Mania card though :(

[Ruien]

It will look like a Mania card once Angle replaces Shane. Bray needs something to do too. Ryback will probably squash someone pre show.

[drave]

I will take your Angle angle as a grasp at hope. It will not happen.

[Big Vic]

Do we know if Angle has signed or not?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Doesn't seem like a Mania card though :(

You're right, but I was actually thinking about how this year's card could compare directly to WrestleMania X-7's and actually hold up nicely. On paper anyway. It's not likely to have the same magic as X-7.

[Fignuts]

Do we know if Angle has signed or not?

100% speculation at this point. It's not even been hinted at in the dirtsheets.

[johnsmagic]

Neither was Shane coming back though

[Evil Vito]

Muahaha.

Well, to be fair...he DID leave it altogether and he had no stock in the company anymore. Surprised to see him back.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really curious to see what CyNick has to say about Meltzer being right.

[The CyNick]

Really curious to see what CyNick has to say about Meltzer being right.

Sorry, what was he right about?

Some vague "information"

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Undertaker's WrestleMania opponent is someone that isn't an active wrestler from outside the company.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's not that you cannot admit when they are right.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to a recent Ric Flair podcast episode, Randy Orton suffered a serious setback to his shoulder recovery to the point whatever chance he had at wrestling at Mania is now gone.

Sting as an option for a possible Shane replacement in the Taker match is also out due to how serious his health problems have become.