Official Raw thread 3|14|16 "Romans EPIC return (plz)"

[johnsmagic]

Booooo

[GD]

So what the heck happens with Ziggler at Mania now.....

Everybody knows that such stipulations mean nothing. We will probably see him in the "Andre the Giant" Battle Royal.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

MAGGEL'S analysis is spot on. This is a fierce assault

[Lock Jaw]

Ha ha chick going crazy for Roman Reigns

[road doggy dogg]

"The surgically-reconstructed face of Roman Reigns"

[Fenix122]

They're not saying boooooo....they're saying Boooman Reigns

[Dark One]

Those two women at the barricade, jesus.

[road doggy dogg]

.... "stuff" ... @ those two girls

[Shisen Kopf]

wish Roman Reigns and Ric Flair would form a tag team.....Wooooo and Booooo!

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL those girls spazzing out when Reigns and Trips were by them..someone should make that a GIF for sure.

[Droford]

This is something

[Dark One]

Byron Saxton: "Roman Reigns has clearly lost it."

What is 'It?' Crowd support.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I need Dave Meltzer to tell me if this is a good segment or not..

I'll let you guys know in a bit whether it was


,,,,,,,

[Ruien]

This is awesome. Love Reigns laying out refs and other personnel.

[Fenix122]

Lol HHH took out the ref

[Corndad]

Lol at the ref limping off

[Lock Jaw]

Ha ha Triple H throwing that case on the referee's foot and the ref hobbling off.....

[DAMN iNATOR]

I know they're trying, but this is really not making me feel any more hyped for WM.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Evolved from fierce to barbaric. OH MY

[Droford]

Roman should have gotten electrocuted

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: Swagger and Henry randomly showing up in the end.

[Dark One]

Jack Swagger's wallet chain is the star of this segment.

[Lock Jaw]

Marked out for Jamie Noble's return....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol NOT LIKE THEEEEEES

[Volare]

Well then.

[Dark One]

Roman Reigns is a bad friend.

It took him a year to get revenge on that TV for screwing Dean Ambrose out of the WWE Championship.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

So what? Roman goes down like a total punk bitch but HHH is able to kind of fend Roman off and hobble off

Yeah whatever cool I guess. Wish Roman haymakered everyone in his path

[Lock Jaw]

Feels like that should have been the end of the show.... seems awkward that it will continue now....

[DAMN iNATOR]

lol NOT LIKE THEEEEEES

"MAHGAHD KING, HE NEARLY BROKE HIM IN HALF! BBQ SAUCE AND NEW DAY AND SOONERS AND PONIES! BAHGAHD, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Don't really understand Byron never seeing Roman "like this". Did he not watch before he was a commentator and not aware of Roman decapitating people in the shield? That's some terrible product knowledge bro.

[road doggy dogg]

i'm totally okay with ziggler losing that match clean... i mean, it's the current champion and all, and it was a great match. that is the right finish IMO

hope everybody doesn't forget that it was a good match...

[DAMN iNATOR]

Feels like that should have been the end of the show.... seems awkward that it will continue now....

Pretty much...the match probably still would've been a snore-fest but that brawl was pretty intense.

[Sepholio]

"MAHGAHD KING, HE NEARLY BROKE HIM IN HALF! BBQ SAUCE AND NEW DAY AND SOONERS AND PONIES! BAHGAHD, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!"

STUNNER STUNNER STUNNER

[road doggy dogg]

Pretty much...the match probably still would've been a snore-fest but that brawl was pretty intense.

seriously, you say stuff like this and wonder why i think you're a fucking retard

match was great

[DAMN iNATOR]

i'm totally okay with ziggler losing that match clean... i mean, it's the current champion and all, and it was a great match. that is the right finish IMO

hope everybody doesn't forget that it was a good match...

"It's all about The Game
And who gets buried..."

[Ruien]

This was a awesome first step to get Reigns over.

[owenbrown]

No, it's a crowbar hammer.

NO NO NO... a tire iron hammer :shifty:

[owenbrown]

I wish Roman went away for 30 days

[DAMN iNATOR]

seriously, you say stuff like this and wonder why i think you're a fucking retard

match was great

Lack of crowd reaction says average at best. You're entitled to your opinion just as much as I am to mine, bro.

[road doggy dogg]

This was a awesome first step to get Reigns over.

yeah probably the best Reigns segment in a long-ass time

[road doggy dogg]

Lack of crowd reaction says average at best. You're entitled to your opinion just as much as I am to mine, bro.

you're seriously basing anything off of this awful crowd's reactions? you really are hopeless

[DAMN iNATOR]

If Truth wanted to really make a hilarious penguin, he should've dressed up as Oswald Cobblepot.

[owenbrown]

Truth needs to learn to penguin dance from an expert... Tony Kornheiser

7RO82Rwdj1o

[road doggy dogg]

this is half-cringe/half-totally endearing

[road doggy dogg]

okay maybe 2/3-cringe

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Don't really understand Byron never seeing Roman "like this". Did he not watch before he was a commentator and not aware of Roman decapitating people in the shield? That's some terrible product knowledge bro.

though i guess he was doing it a surgically repaired nose, so he technically "hasn't" seen him like "this"

[Lock Jaw]

Goldust acts crazy trying to get R-Truth to team with him.... R-Truth acting "normal" continually refuses....

R-Truth now acting crazy trying to get Goldust to team with him.... Goldust acting "normal" continually refuses....

Just kiss already....

[Ruien]

What did you not like about HHH vs Ziggler? HHH put Ziggler over big time and it was an intense match.


This is for DAMN.

[DAMN iNATOR]

you're seriously basing anything off of this awful crowd's reactions? you really are hopeless

The only way in which I am hopeless, sir, is through my refusal to recognize Obama as the current Commander-in-Chief of these United States.

[owenbrown]

3dv8UDGn6oo

[Shisen Kopf]

NO NO NO... a tire iron hammer :shifty:

Looked more like an inanimate carbon rod to me.

[Shisen Kopf]

An insufferable inanimate carbon rod

[road doggy dogg]

The only way in which I am hopeless, sir, is through my refusal to recognize Obama as the current Commander-in-Chief of these United States.

you've reached owenbrown levels of insanity

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Liked the beat down at a b minus level tbh. I know this is nitpicky but I don't understand why Roman's music needs to play before the beatdown. Feel like it would be more authentic if he just ran out like a bat out of hell and mauled HHH. He showed good fire though, was fun but the crowd is bring me down :(

[DAMN iNATOR]

What did you not like about HHH vs Ziggler? HHH put Ziggler over big time and it was an intense match.


This is for DAMN.

Just felt very boring and slow-paced. Seemed like there was a move maybe once every 10 seconds...dunno, just wasn't into it. I tried to enjoy it, and really had hoped it would impress me more, but it just didn't do anything for me.

Sorry if I seem evasive in my response. I'm not trying to be, just having difficulty putting my criticisms of the match into words. I guess I'm just at a loss right now.

[road doggy dogg]

weird jericho outburst at fan...

[owenbrown]

you've reached owenbrown levels of insanity

HOW DARE YOU SIR! My levels of insanity are unreachable for the likes of DAMN iNATOR

[Lock Jaw]

AJ Styles, who is your cool daddy?

[road doggy dogg]

heel jericho is still one of my favs

[Dark One]

yeah probably the best Reigns segment in a long-ass time

This is correct, but... Imagine how much better/more over it would have been with any of like a dozen guys on the roster? If Dean Ambrose had done that? The place would still be going crazy.

It's like giving Bob Holly all of the Rock's material in the late 90s. Why would you do that?

[Poit]

So... is Ziggler being pinned by Triple H him literally being held down by authority?

[Ruien]

Sigh.... Neville.... rather see another Divas match.

[owenbrown]

Neville doing the job to Jericho huh?

[road doggy dogg]

oh this elf is here

[DAMN iNATOR]

I did get a good laugh out of watching that one guy backstage during the brawl go flying across that table as it tilted, though...pretty "effin' hilarious" IMHO.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Because the crowd is so horrific, everything is so disjointed. These guys (all the roster) are such fucking pros for giving it their all through this shit. Honestly don't understand paying to go to a show to sit on your hands.

[Shisen Kopf]

Just felt very boring and slow-paced. Seemed like there was a move maybe once every 10 seconds...dunno, just wasn't into it. I tried to enjoy it, and really had hoped it would impress me more, but it just didn't do anything for me.

Sorry if I seem evasive in my response. I'm not trying to be, just having difficulty putting my criticisms of the match into words. I guess I'm just at a loss right now.

Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on that one. I thought it was a very good match. Easily 5/7

[road doggy dogg]

This is correct, but... Imagine how much better/more over it would have been with any of like a dozen guys on the roster? If Dean Ambrose had done that? The place would still be going crazy.

It's like giving Bob Holly all of the Rock's material in the late 90s. Why would you do that?

Oh I agree 100% but at least if they're going to force-feed us Reigns then make it good material

[rad dggy dg]

Neville doing the job to Jiggerho huh?

:nono:

[road doggy dogg]

So... is Ziggler being pinned by Triple H him literally being held down by authority?

considering he just got a match against the current champion and came out looking good despite losing clean..... i'ma go with nope

[Ruien]

Because the crowd is so horrific, everything is so disjointed. These guys (all the roster) are such fucking pros for giving it their all through this shit. Honestly don't understand paying to go to a show to sit on your hands.

So this.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Seriously don't get this crowd. Like every time besides maybe for Trips and Steph and Dean, they've been completely silent while the entrance themes play, as if every theme was funeral march music...WTF?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Roman's music his horrendous. It sounds like Big Bossman/Steve Blackman circa attitude era. Don't get me wrong, fucking loved those themes but those guys were mid card characters.

[road doggy dogg]

Just felt very boring and slow-paced. Seemed like there was a move maybe once every 10 seconds...dunno, just wasn't into it. I tried to enjoy it, and really had hoped it would impress me more, but it just didn't do anything for me.

Sorry if I seem evasive in my response. I'm not trying to be, just having difficulty putting my criticisms of the match into words. I guess I'm just at a loss right now.

so basically you went into the match with a pre-conceived notion that it would suck because you are the absolute worst type of wrestling fan, and on top of that have no appreciation for pacing or psychology in a wrestling match... aka you're dumB

[rad dggy dg]

HOW DARE YOU SIR! My levels of racism are unreachable for the likes of DAMN iNATOR

:wtf:

[road doggy dogg]

Roman's music his horrendous. It sounds like Big Bossman/Steve Blackman circa attitude era. Don't get me wrong, fucking loved those themes but those guys were mid card characters.

STEVE

BLACKMAN

LETHAL

WEAAAAAAPON


paging @Y2Ant

[DAMN iNATOR]

Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on that one. I thought it was a very good match. Easily 5/7

No accounting for taste, I guess, in this instance...I'd give it a 3.33/7.

[Lock Jaw]

Roman/Shield theme always reminded me of Tazz's WWE theme....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Also Roman's music is kinda Bautista esque which I guess is a compliment.

[road doggy dogg]

Roman/Shield theme always reminded me of Tazz's WWE theme....

always loved that theme... so hyped for his debut etc... the theme was "bad-ass".. then he got his @$$ jobbed out... ya feel me @Triple A

[Droford]

Lol nevilles hurt

[road doggy dogg]

Well, JBL, Jericho DID invent Canada

[Lock Jaw]

STEVE

BLACKMAN

LETHAL

WEAAAAAAPON


paging @Y2Ant

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/thSteve_Blackman-2.jpg

[Ruien]

This is correct, but... Imagine how much better/more over it would have been with any of like a dozen guys on the roster? If Dean Ambrose had done that? The place would still be going crazy.

It's like giving Bob Holly all of the Rock's material in the late 90s. Why would you do that?

Ya but if they keep Reigns as a monster who destroys everything his character can be saved. This will give him the possibility of becoming great. He does have the potential to become one of the greats still.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I should mention, that's 3.33 crowbars on a scale of 1 to 7 tire irons.

[road doggy dogg]

HE'S HURT

HE'S HURT

thankfully that match was mercifully short

[Volare]

What in the fuck??

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

This is so weird. Fuck this crowd

[road doggy dogg]

man this crowd is fucking weak

[Emperor Smeat]

Would be amazing if Jericho went back to wearing business suits for this heel run. His recent face runs have lacked a lot of stuff that made Jericho great while that last heel run was great with how much he changed.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Neville must have been actually hurt and they called an audible

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/thSteve_Blackman-2.jpg

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[Ruien]

Really want AJ to finish his "Welcome to the WWE" fued and see what direction his character will go.

[road doggy dogg]

Phenomenal Phorearm

yikes

[Shisen Kopf]

No accounting for taste, I guess, in this instance...I'd give it a 3.33/7.

Well, it was no Big Show vs Viscera match from 1999 but it was 5/7.

[Lock Jaw]

Time for Undertaker, Vince, and Vince's Son, Shane

[Volare]

Ok now I'm glad I'm here.

[Shisen Kopf]

I can't stand AJ Styles music. Sucks. 1/7

[owenbrown]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Trrrath/thSteve_Blackman-2.jpg

I miss Xero :(

[Lock Jaw]

But that was a Lock Jaw thing......

[Dark One]

This show could use a hero.

An Olympic hero.

[road doggy dogg]

I'm just over here jamming to the USA Network U2 cover band...

[Volare]

The internet would break if it goes, Vince, then Shane, then Taker, then out of the fucking blue......

[road doggy dogg]

This show could use a hero.

An Olympic hero.

honestly if the crowd is just "saving its energy in case Angle comes out" and that's why they're sofa king awful........... well then fuck you right in the dickholes, Pittsburgh, for sucking.

[Lock Jaw]

Shane should announce that he is having a champion fight for him, as is his right, and that man is Kurt freakin' Angle

[road doggy dogg]

The internet would break if it goes, Vince, then Shane, then Taker, then out of the RED WHITE AND MOTHERfucking blue......

ftfy baby

[road doggy dogg]

honestly if the crowd is just "saving its energy in case Angle comes out" and that's why they're sofa king awful........... well then fuck you right in the dickholes, Pittsburgh, for sucking.

that being said I'm gonna be there in a few weeks for the Tigers' home-and-home against the Bucs but w/e... eat shit... pittsburgh........................shitsburgh

[KIRA]

Truth needs to learn to penguin dance from an expert... Tony Kornheiser

7RO82Rwdj1o

That is where we part ways behold the ONLY real penguin dance

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[road doggy dogg]

sup @ Sasha Banks' titties

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Wanna know the lyrics to No Chance in HEEEEEUUUUUUUL

[road doggy dogg]

NO CHANCE

[road doggy dogg]

PUPPETS

[Volare]

I'm glad the forum got together to hype ourselves up.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

o my fucking god shut the absolute fuck up JBL

Oh shit Vince is calling out this crowd for sucking balls good for him

[owenbrown]

VINCE IS BOOTY sign :lol:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Let's see if crowd goes mild or wild for Shane O's music...

[slik]

how did neville get hurt, I missed it...anyone got a gif?

[road doggy dogg]

So........... it's 10:56 and Undertaker hasn't come out yet

[road doggy dogg]

jesus christ @ this awful crowd

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I am looking forward to Shane McMahon's new corporate initiative. I hope he hires Jack Tunney's son as WWF President.

[DAMN iNATOR]

NOW the crowd comes alive with stupid "WHAT?" chants?! :wtf:

[rad dggy dg]

VINCE IS BOOTY sign :lol:

:|

[Ruien]

It's 10 00....... it will be 10 15 by the time Taker gets to the ring. Arg. Maybe Vince forgot about daylight savings.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

oh wow it's Vince's instrument of destruction? I figured that would have been his penis aka genetic jackhammer

[KIRA]

Biggest reactions of the night Dean Ambrose and Brie Bella.

Pretty much dead for 3hrs straight

[DAMN iNATOR]

Looks at clock during 'Taker's entrance...


8 F**IN' HOURS LATER...!

[Lock Jaw]

Say what you will about the length of Taker's entrance, but I hope I can still see it "live" one day....

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Fuck this crowd. only reacts to Taker. Jesus

[road doggy dogg]

glad Undertaker is growing his hair out again... looked "f*cking goofy" with shaved head

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I am a deadman but I also wear 8 ounce mma gloves

[road doggy dogg]

damn Titus O'Neill must be thinkin "aw hell naw"

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Shane is a total silver fox. Love it.

[road doggy dogg]

dear WWE,

please don't ever go to Pittsburgh again

[Lock Jaw]

Shane's attire becoming more casual by week

[weather vane]

Pittsburgh is no bueno.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL @ Shane looking dead at 'Taker while he did his silly dancing routine...:lol::lol::lol:

[road doggy dogg]

Undertaker ain't having none of Shane's shit

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

ALRIGHT SHATAAAAAP

FIrst you want them to make noise then you tell them to shutup. Decide what you want Vincent K.

[GD]

lol at Shane screwing up his lines.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Ummmmmm Shane, Undertaker's dead, he doesn't use oxygen. JEEZ

[Droford]

Shane needs to go go to promo class

[Emperor Smeat]

:n: No mention of the Mean Street Posse for that match plan by Shane.

[road doggy dogg]

"What I have... are these"

MY MMA GLOVES

[DAMN iNATOR]

The way Shane's talking, you'd think he'd just visited the mighty and powerful Oz and got his elements for trying to defeat 'Taker, LOL.

[Dark One]

Rest in Pieces Shane O'Mac.

[Lock Jaw]

"What I have... are these"

MY MMA GLOVES

*Mystical MMA Gloves

[poopfromweiner dude]

Cringing v hard at shane mcmahon not being able to remember his lines and hecklers egging him on from the crowd

[GD]

This match has the potential to be an extremely bad one.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

"What I have... are these"

MY MMA GLOVES

lol omg exactly what I was gonna post

[poopfromweiner dude]

He has to tombstone Shane right?

It's not going to end without a tombstone right?

[road doggy dogg]

*Mystical MMA Gloves

+5 strength
+7 stamina
+3 agility

[Shisen Kopf]

I was promised Kurt Angle would be here

[weather vane]

Shane was fine. He sounded normal to me. Not so rehearsed as most of the promos we get.

RAW was underwhelming again. Fans were real quiet too.

[Jordan]

Good lord Raw sucked tonight

[owenbrown]

Shane being away for 6 years has made him rusty on the promo skills :(

[Shisen Kopf]

Boooooooooooooo

[Ruien]

Really wish that was not rushed due to time constraints. Would have loved if there was a extra 10 minuts but it still hyped me up for the match.

Can't wait for Angle to return too.

[road doggy dogg]

"The Big Short" on Blu-Ray this Tuesday... feel like I just saw this in theaters a month ago wth

[poopfromweiner dude]

wtf it just ended like that

would have been 1000p better if the undertaker picked shane up and tombstoned him again. Or also chokeslam/tombstone Vince. All of that just felt really phoned in. Fuck them,,,they don't care why should I...

[road doggy dogg]

Raw didn't seem awful @everyone... crowd was utter piss, but Dolph/HHH match was good... a surprisingly competent Roman Reigns segment... could've been worse

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably going to end up laughing a lot during the Cell match just from Shane's punches.

[Ruien]

Good lord Raw sucked tonight

What? Why? Raw was amazing. Besides for Neville of course. Started off hot and never slowed down.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Raw didn't seem awful @everyone... crowd was utter piss, but Dolph/HHH match was good... a surprisingly competent Roman Reigns segment... could've been worse

4/7

[Jordan]

Nothing new for AJ/Jericho
Still confused about what happens to New Day at Wrestlemania, is it 3vs3, 3vs4, or 4vs4?
Triple H and Dolph stunk it up on the mic
Jeus Christ Shane, those punches and stammering on the mic...
Lots of oddly bad promos from Paul Heyman, Triple H, all the McMahon... odd show

Undertaker was good
Kevin Owens/Miz/Zayn were on fire

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

What? Why? Raw was amazing. Besides for Neville of course. Started off hot and never slowed down.

it wasn't terrible but it wasn't amazing. As I said, the crowd really made everything come across as disjointed. It was just really strange.

[Jordan]

That was the worst Triple H promo I have ever seen

[Savio]

No roman reigns match 0/10

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But for me the crowd reaction really accounts for much of the experience. Really creates the atmosphere even (almost particularly) when watching on tv.

[Jordan]

And Paul Heyman was bad too. I'm tired of the Suplex City act. I look forward to Dean winning this match and launching him to the top.

[Ruien]

it wasn't terrible but it wasn't amazing. As I said, the crowd really made everything come across as disjointed. It was just really strange.

Ya the crowd was crap. But from what the WWE put out there tonight it was a very well done show.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fuck this crowd. only reacts to Taker. Jesus

They popped pretty loud for Ambrose.

[slik]

He has to tombstone Shane right?

It's not going to end without a tombstone right?

I feel like match will end when Shane heroically passes out to the Hell's Gate submission...he'll definitely hit Taker with a kendo stick a bunch though and hit the coast to coast from one side of the ring to the other

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Ya the crowd was crap. But from what the WWE put out there tonight it was a very well done show.

The problem is, they haven't earned much equity with a lot of crowds. While there wasn't much technically wrong with the show, they still only have themselves to blame for this. Don't get me wrong, fuck that crowd.... but this is a symptom of a bigger problem and I believe they have shot themselves in the foot enough that even when they do put on a decent RAW (and it was decent, not amazing), certain crowds maybe just don't feel the product they've paid for has earned a reaction.

Mind you, Vince is going to blame all the NXT call ups for this. But this one was dead in the water, early and often.

[Ruien]

Ya. When you put shit in for months then the crowd isn't coming in with a lot of energy. But if they keep this up then, maybe, the Raw before Mania will have the crowd popping.

[Emperor Smeat]

http://i.imgur.com/P0l9KPw.gif

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

TBH Gonna have to drop RAW to 3/7 due to a) Not enough Odds being overcome
b)Not enough obstacles being hurdled c) Not enough digging down deep

Sorry guys :(

[weather vane]

That was not a very well done show.

[Lock Jaw]

That was not a very well done show.

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[Lock Jaw]

LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE YOU'VE MADE THE UNDERTAKER SAD

[weather vane]

Hahaha

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

FYI

These are totally my thoughts and not at all Dave Meltzer's,,,,,,,,, in the least. I wrote this word for word. If any of you doubt me well may god send you to hell just 48 hours ago.

SUMMARY: Behind the scenes, Vince is playing Shane against HHH and Stephanie. Vince is trying to prove he's not out of touch, even though he's lost 75% of his audience in the last 17 years. HHH is running NXT, which has garnered the following of hardcore fans, but Vince doesn't think he can make any of the NXT wrestlers stars. There's internal heat on HHH for not selling the Reigns injury, and tonight he did one of his classic HHH burial jobs on Ziggler. And I'm supposed to care about WrestleMania when all this is going on behind the scenes? You tell me, which sounds like more intriguing developments to follow? As for this show, Pittsburgh has long had the reputation of being a city of dead crowds, and tonight continued that reputation. Closing hour was interesting.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE YOU'VE MADE THE UNDERTAKER SAD

Well, maybe now he'll go to his hellfire and brimstone dungeon AND THINK ABOUT WHAT HE'S DONE UNTIL HE'S READY TO COME OUT AND APOLOGIZE---AND MEAN IT, TOO!

[Lock Jaw]

The Demon Kane has the hellfire and brimstone dungeon, not The Undertaker. This is the tire iron all over again!!

[Corndad]

Fuck you guys talking about Pittsburgh crowd. Mind you this is the same place Mania 30 was changed at the Rumble because of the crowd. If there is something to get behind this crowd certainly will. Could it possibly be WWE has been so disjointed recently no one gives a flying f about half these guys.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The problem is, they haven't earned much equity with a lot of crowds. While there wasn't much technically wrong with the show, they still only have themselves to blame for this. Don't get me wrong, fuck that crowd.... but this is a symptom of a bigger problem and I believe they have shot themselves in the foot enough that even when they do put on a decent RAW (and it was decent, not amazing), certain crowds maybe just don't feel the product they've paid for has earned a reaction.

Mind you, Vince is going to blame all the NXT call ups for this. But this one was dead in the water, early and often.

For Corndad

[DaveWadding]

I saw a 7 page RAW thread and thought something good had happened. What a waste.

[harmsway]

In raw's defense.....nevermind

[Droford]

LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE YOU'VE MADE THE UNDERTAKER SAD

Lol more in tune with his old theme..

"YOUVE DONE IT NOW..YOUVE GONE AND MADE THE TAKER SAD"

[Droford]

Nevile broke his shin bone and ankle

[road doggy dogg]

Fuck you guys talking about Pittsburgh crowd. Mind you this is the same place Mania 30 was changed at the Rumble because of the crowd. If there is something to get behind this crowd certainly will. Could it possibly be WWE has been so disjointed recently no one gives a flying f about half these guys.

well

if you're so "disillusioned" with the product that you simply refuse to cheer for anything resembling a half-decent show (which last night's Raw was, IMO), then why the fuck are you even going?

either a) crowd was just bad

or b) crowd is dumb fucks for buying tickets to an event they had no intention of enjoying going into


so either way, fuck that crowd last night

[road doggy dogg]

I saw a 7 page RAW thread and thought something good had happened. What a waste.

sorry I will stop posting more, clearly I am the worst Guru DaveWadding

[Big Vic]

The crowd was tired due to daylight savings.

[Corndad]

well

if you're so "disillusioned" with the product that you simply refuse to cheer for anything resembling a half-decent show (which last night's Raw was, IMO), then why the fuck are you even going?

either a) crowd was just bad

or b) crowd is dumb fucks for buying tickets to an event they had no intention of enjoying going into


so either way, fuck that crowd last night

I'm sure there was a hint of both. Going to events there in the past it seems to be a lot of kids with adults so I'm sure none of those were screaming .

My point is give the crowd someone they can actually get behind. The one person in my opnion who is over as a baby face at moment is Ambrose and his pop was huge. Who else deserves that? New Day are Tweeners. Usos um no. Styles is new to a lot of the crowd. Taker is doing Vince's (Heel) dirty work .

Don't even start me on Reigns.

I think alot of crowds would have acted similar

[Big Vic]

You could have popped for Brie Bella

[Emperor Smeat]

The crowd did seem very off for some strange reason last night although to be fair a bit, the show itself was very average overall and there were late rumors of Daniel Bryan making an appearnce. Both could have played a role in the crowd being flat.

[drave]

Why is it strange that a city just wasn't into a show? Because it was Philly or??

If the show was "average" as many people say, do they want a standing ovation?

[road doggy dogg]

I dunno, I just find it really fucking stupid to even attend an event you have no intention of even enjoying. Do you go to a hockey game for a team you are generally lukewarm about? Why? Seems really pointless/not good investment of your time/dollar

[slik]

I don't remember much of what happened on RAW is WAR but I remember DAMN iNATOR and road doggy dogg had a #bloodfeud

[road doggy dogg]

Raw was pretty insufferable tbh tbh tbh

[drave]

Maybe they were hoping for something big? Given that it is Mania season, things are usually "elevated". It has been on cruise control for a while now, it seems. With Philly being a largely smark crowd who most likley hates Reigns, I get why they wouldn't care there.... but his receptions have never been YUGE post-Shield anyway.

[slik]

I can't wait until the go-home RAW before Mania is in Brooklyn. That crowd will definitely love Roman Reigns.

[drave]

Feel like a flat crowd (like what is described from yesterday) would mean more than resounding boo's.

The WWE has proven they don't care which reaction a wrestler gets, so long as it is a reaction (see: Cena). Reigns will essentially be the same, only with a greater chance of being turned heel to quiet the boos and repackage him into a face that the (majority) of the universe gets behind.

I think if it were just quiet, and people were more apathetic, it would have them scratching their heads as to why the universe doesn't care about their MUST SEE television program.

[road doggy dogg]

idk but Reigns was actually kind of interesting to watch last night

[drave]

Gonna catch highlights from wwe.com on lunch.


EH EF KAY

[Big Vic]

I dunno, I just find it really freeeking stupid to even attend an event you have no intention of even enjoying. Do you go to a hockey game for a team you are generally lukewarm about? Why? Seems really pointless/not good investment of your time/dollarI was thinking of going to raw with the girl friday because its something to do :-\.

I probably wont but if I did I would be lukewarm about everyone.

I've gone to Minor league Hockey and Baseball games quite a bit.

[Sepholio]

HHH and Ziggler put on a great match. Surprised to say this.....but HHH should seriously be full time still or at least work alot more. The man still has it in spades.

Other than that the only thing from RAW that I noticed was WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE WYATTS!?

[DaveWadding]

sorry I will stop posting more, clearly I am the worst Guru DaveWadding

Nothing to do with you, just expected exciting things and then got a lot of people bitching for the sake of bitching.

[Jordan]

Triple H is far above most people in WWE as far as in presence and work in the ring. Honestly to me his physique and size makes him stand out so much in the ring as a fucking destroyer.

[drave]

Triple H is far above most people in WWE as far as in presence and work in the ring. Honestly to me his physique and size makes him stand out so much in the ring as a fucking destroyer.


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[Volare]

So this was the most important fight of RAW....

Robinson vs Jericho

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Something seemed so fucked about that so it all makes sense. Jericho was super fucking pissed at Charles Robinson.

[Volare]

Yeah I was wondering wtf happened as well....just random ass roll up into getting mad and yelling.

[Volare]

But IMO this is how I feel about "THE ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA"..........................







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[Sixx]

why in the world would Triple H face Dolph Ziggler?

[Triple A]

Maybe they were hoping for something big? Given that it is Mania season, things are usually "elevated". It has been on cruise control for a while now, it seems. With Philly being a largely smark crowd who most likley hates Reigns, I get why they wouldn't care there.... but his receptions have never been YUGE post-Shield anyway.

It was in Pittsburgh... Philadelphia is usually a pretty "hot" crowd for most things, I think

[Impact!]

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wish this gif went for like one second longer, pretty sure the guy holding the sign yells BOOTY at Vince :lol:

[Impact!]

Whilst I'm here, thoughts on the show:

- New Day is always good, but felt the opening promo was a little flat. Seems like they (WWE) are trying to make them faces without an actual turn, which seems like a waste.

- Average match, but the LON seems to suck the excitement out of the air. Which sucks because they are all actually really good workers, just not together in a boring and bland stable.

- The post match beat down went to long, and felt very disjointed.

- Ambrose is over as fuck, if he doesn't get a monster push at mania/post mania, the WWE is missing the ball. Dude is money.

- Heyman/Lesnar is usually good, but this face vs face fued seems to be limiting everyone involved

- Not hating the Ryback vs Kalisto stuff, but I think Sin Cara needs to turn as well. Make it a triple threat at Mania and things could be a little more interesting. Maybe take the lower half off of Sin Caras mask so he can talk/show some expression. Dunno

- Letting Steph take the lead in the promo is smart, since the crowd will just cheer multi H. Everything about this fued feels forced, its like theyre burying there heads in the sand. This background fued with Dolph is strange, but if there is an actual payoff for him it could be interesting.

-Cool to have Zayn finally on RAW, I originally figured WM would be a multi man ladder match for the IC title with Zayn, Owens, Neville, Miz, Jericho, AJ, but with Neville injured I guess it goes back to 5. The build for all of this over the past few months has been really well done, kinda low key though.

- Good match between Zayn and Miz, builds the fueds nicely.

- LON is a (accidental) comedy that's tragic. Kinda feel like if they turned face they would basically be the Social Outcasts (except people enjoy the Social Outcasts)

- ugh Brie Mode, just terrible. Naomi is so under rated its awful. Will be interesting to see if she can hold the 3 vs 3 match together at WM. Also, against popular opinion, I actually enjoy Namois theme :-\

- Social Outcasts really need a fued of some sort. Not sure with who(m) though. Also I feel like they should add a Diva to the group. No idea who though.

- Ah yes, let the shoehorning of talent into WM matches begin. Paige teaming with the Bella<s>s</s> makes no sense.

- Charlotte is getting pretty good on the mic, actually seems to be comfortable now. Triple threat at mania should be awesome if they give them enough time.

- Job Squad 2.0 back in form, USOS doing everything they can to make the crowd give as hoot. Dudleys on commentary is good, nothing spectacular though.

- Hope there is more to the Ambrose/Foley deal. Awesome seeing the barbedballbat back in action. Ambrose is clearly top dog at the moment, no one on the roster is close.

- Ziggler Vs HHH is alright, obviously playing it safe considering WM is 3 weeks away though. Would like to see them have an actual PPV match, where they can go all out. Good chemistry between them.

- LOL crowd hates Reigns. Props to him for ignoring it and trying his best. Strange finish to the beatdown, its like they realised it wasn't the close of the show, so they just had to have multi H walk off.

- Also the ref tripping on the box, and hopping away might have been the funniest thing all night. Especially when he comes back just to stand in the background and add noise.

- Jacqueline being in the HOF makes sense, being in Texas. I wonder if they will show a (censored) boob shot.

- The Goldust/Truth stuff started off funny, but Truth is better being the accidental comedic one of the two. Pull the trigger and team them, or just join them with Social Outcasts I guess.

- Solid promo by Jericho, he's really hitting his strides lately. probably his best work since Serious Suit Jericho.

- Decent match, besides Neville getting injured. Jericho is such a good performer/ring general. With Charles Robinson flubbing the changed finish, he took control of the situation perfectly (though was also clearly annoyed with CR). Taking the mic at the end to distract from Neville being injured/giving backstage some time to get AJ ready was perfect.

- Phenomenal Forearm (Phorearm?) is kinda ehhh, but I guess it could be worse. Feel like the announcers are gonna flub it a lot.

- Crowd is alive for Vince/UT/Shane, but its gonna be a hard sell to keep Shane even vaguely looking like he has a chance. UT should definitely go over at WM, and if he is going to lose one more WM match it should be to someone who will use the boost. Rollins would be my choice, but that's another matter.

- Kinda average RAW, the crowd really emphasized the lack of care everyone seems to have overall going into WM. Seems like the Authority are trying to claim that theyre making it crappy on purpose, because its best for business. Hope it picks up after WM.

- Also no Wyatts, kinda strange. Maybe they just want everyone to forget about them for a while.

[Big Vic]

Lol, Triple Hs promo was absolutely awful.

[road doggy dogg]

how so

[road doggy dogg]

I thought Heyman's promo was 2346246x worse

hits the same notes every time... now also shilling the Network... zzz

[Big Vic]

i didn't hear Heymans promo.

HHHs promo was the same tired "you guys are poor" promo. We like Romans Reigns because he has hope? Our wife hates us because.... reasons? Kids hate us because we're a failure. What Because I didn't get a raise? What? When is that ever true? Hell in 2016 if you support your kid and see him once a week you're a "hero"

[road doggy dogg]

Well obviously the things he's saying won't resonate with you if apparently your bar for being a successful human being in society is set that low

[Big Vic]

Aren't most roman reigns supporters women (and maybe children) though?

[road doggy dogg]

Is that based off most of the IWC (who dislike him) being generally INSUFFERABLE™ neckbearded males? Or is there more evidence to support that

[Big Vic]

My girl thinks he looks cute.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Just thought it was super forced and contrived, but I dind't see Heyman either. #insufferableneckbeard

[drave]

Just thought it was super forced and contrived, but I dind't see Heyman either. #insufferableneckbeard


Can we have pics of your neckbeard. :yes: