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slik
03-21-2016, 10:49 PM
Vince just said Shane is the toughest opponent Undertaker has ever faced at WM...smDh

Volare
03-21-2016, 10:50 PM
Vince wants to die lmfao!!!

slik
03-21-2016, 10:50 PM
If Undertaker loses to Shane McMahon he must retire! Told ya'all it was TAKER'S LAST STAND months ago...

Volare
03-21-2016, 10:50 PM
So.....like I was saying about Vince screwing Taker.....fucking weird eh?

Dark One
03-21-2016, 10:51 PM
Well, Company or Career ups the stakes about as high as they can go short of "LOSER GETS SHOT IN THE HEAD LIVE IN THE RING"

Volare
03-21-2016, 10:51 PM
Dean should've came out with the chainsaw.

Crimson
03-21-2016, 10:52 PM
Tuned in to catch Vince's promo. Tuned back out. This Wrestlemania build up has been the worst in years.

DAMN iNATOR
03-21-2016, 10:53 PM
blimey...just reading this thread Raw sounds insufferably boring yet again.

http://data3.whicdn.com/images/22019384/large.jpg

Volare
03-21-2016, 10:54 PM
Highlights of Mania.....

New Day Entrance
Wyatt entrance
Brock vs Dean
Divas Triple Threat
IC Ladder match

DAMN iNATOR
03-21-2016, 10:55 PM
Well, Company or Career ups the stakes about as high as they can go short of "LOSER GETS SHOT IN THE HEAD LIVE IN THE RING"

Short of ISIS becoming a sponsor, I don't see that happening.

Ruien
03-21-2016, 10:55 PM
AJ and Y2J will be a highlight. Wyatts crushing the rumble will be awesome.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 10:56 PM
It's just not organic. Fans are not stupid. It's very apparent when someone is the corporate "guy". He just doesn't connect with the fans like Ambrose. They don't need to cheer him if they don't want to. Keep in mind, this is what, a 2-year-old problem? Just because he has a week or 2 of decent showings doesn't mean the crowd is going to forget about the 80 per cent of MEH.

Roman is a good performer, don't get me wrong. He is just mis cast. Also, the state of his fucking attire. Jesus.

At least he gets booed. What would be worse would be if the crowd was dead.

DAMN iNATOR
03-21-2016, 10:57 PM
Heyman out there? Well, THIS doesn't have obvious Lesnar interference or post-match brawl with or beatdown of Dean at all...

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 10:58 PM
Unified coalition of evil. lol fuck off

owenbrown
03-21-2016, 10:59 PM
Main event starting at 9:58 pm Central time :roll:

Ruien
03-21-2016, 10:59 PM
Ambrose has been in the main event picture though on multiple ppvs. When he wins its going to be super huge. And he will win it. Seriously think going against Brock is a better match than going against HHH.

DAMN iNATOR
03-21-2016, 11:00 PM
Main event starting at 9:58 pm Central time :roll:

Yeah, but

DEAN.

FUCKING.

AMBROSE.

:(

rez
03-21-2016, 11:01 PM
brand split this shit product

Triple A
03-21-2016, 11:04 PM
omg this sucks

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:04 PM
This is like booking Steve Austin vs. Kurrigan before Wrestlemania.

Triple A
03-21-2016, 11:06 PM
Feel uncomfortable seeing Dean Ambrose with his shirt off / seeing his nipples

Ruien
03-21-2016, 11:06 PM
Another decent Raw. Had some meh moments. Owen wins best of the night with his ring announcing duty and running to Steph like a little girl.

Emperor Smeat
03-21-2016, 11:06 PM
This is like booking Steve Austin vs. Kurrigan before Wrestlemania.

Would Rowan or Stroman be the one holding the giant Cartman plushy for the Wyatties?

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 11:06 PM
And Austin doesn't even get the pin lol

Crimson
03-21-2016, 11:06 PM
brand split this shit product

Yes

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:07 PM
Generic spoiler for tonight from the guy that hinted at Shane's return and some other things:

You will all finally figure out what they are doing with Zack Ryder for Wrestlemania. I see him doing great things. #Rydermania

Thats about it besides Fandango vs. Jericho.

It sounds like it's going to be a long night.

I should have heeded my own advice and caught Owens' segments on Youtube.

slik
03-21-2016, 11:07 PM
was that the end of RAW?

seems so random

slik
03-21-2016, 11:08 PM
If Shane wins can't he just re-instate Taker?

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 11:08 PM
So much stuff is so awkward and clunky. Nothing seems genuine nor does it seem to make sense.

Best performers in the fucking world and getting through RAW is always a chore.

Crimson
03-21-2016, 11:10 PM
If Shane wins can't he just re-instate Taker?

Yes

rez
03-21-2016, 11:11 PM
Yes

What's this Colony shit? Where's my Christley Knows Best?

PS. Brand split :fu::wave:

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:19 PM
In regards to the opening In Memoriam:

Tonight’s episode of Raw opened with an “In Memorium” graphic for Mary Katharine Stewart. Stewart was the daughter of one of WWE’s longtime cameramen, as noted by Mauro Ranallo on Twitter below.

According to WLWT in Cincinnati, Stewart fell from a cliff at Raven Run Nature Sanctuary in Lexington, Kentucky on Saturday afternoon. Firefighters attempted to reach her and after an hour they recovered her body and attempted to move her using a boat on a nearby river. The boat capsized with the firefighters and Stewart on board; they swam to safety and then recovered her body around 5:30 PM. She died of blunt force injuries.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She was the daughter of one of WWE's long time cameramen. We are all devastated. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIP?src=hash">#RIP</a> <a href="https://t.co/se8mmXgvWg">https://t.co/se8mmXgvWg</a></p>&mdash; Mauro Ranallo (@mauroranallo) <a href="https://twitter.com/mauroranallo/status/712084198069293056">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Very classy on WWE's part to show support for a longtime employee like that.

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:20 PM
In regards to the opening In Memoriam:

Very classy on WWE's part to show support for a longtime employee like that.

Although they should probably also open Smackdown with an In Memoriam for the tens of thousands of people they bored to death tonight.

#MeanestPoster2016

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 11:23 PM
In regards to AJ and Owens match.... if you can't think of anything better than that fuck finish... don't book the match. Jesus I'm still so sour about that.

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6w7WG42.png

slik
03-21-2016, 11:24 PM
Uh oh....



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON">@davemeltzerWON</a> looks like Luke Harper tore an acl doing pretty much nothing in the dark match in philly <a href="https://t.co/sr7ls8TOFZ">pic.twitter.com/sr7ls8TOFZ</a></p>&mdash; Close Shave (@jleib95) <a href="https://twitter.com/jleib95/status/712114116979236865">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:24 PM
Also, THE INJURY ERA ROLLS ON.

Luke Harper potentially injured:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON">@davemeltzerWON</a> looks like Luke Harper tore an acl doing pretty much nothing in the dark match in philly <a href="https://t.co/sr7ls8TOFZ">pic.twitter.com/sr7ls8TOFZ</a></p>&mdash; Close Shave (@jleib95) <a href="https://twitter.com/jleib95/status/712114116979236865">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Other photos of Bray wheeling him to the back in a wheelchair are floating around.

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:25 PM
Goddamnit slik.

slik
03-21-2016, 11:25 PM
this is what happens when you don't acknowledge my post telling you HI

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7EsInf8.gif

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 11:26 PM
Not that it matters for Harper since he's pretty much on an assembly line of talent which is a shame because he is the tits.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 11:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7EsInf8.gif

lol still so confused about that

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:27 PM
this is what happens when you don't acknowledge my post telling you HI

Sorry man.

Stockholm Syndrome. Couldn't focus on anything else.

Emperor Smeat
03-21-2016, 11:28 PM
Uh oh....



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON">@davemeltzerWON</a> looks like Luke Harper tore an acl doing pretty much nothing in the dark match in philly <a href="https://t.co/sr7ls8TOFZ">pic.twitter.com/sr7ls8TOFZ</a></p>&mdash; Close Shave (@jleib95) <a href="https://twitter.com/jleib95/status/712114116979236865">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Road to InjuryMania has been a lot more interesting than Road to Mania this year.

There needs to be betting odds on who gets hurt next week.

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:30 PM
Road to InjuryMania has been a lot more interesting than Road to Mania this year.

There needs to be betting odds on who gets hurt next week.

The physical therapy ward is going to have a hell of a card on their hands on April 3rd.

#1-norm-fan
03-21-2016, 11:32 PM
What if Roman Reigns got injured? Wonder what they would do.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-21-2016, 11:32 PM
Stephanie has been booked super strong I have to say. Can't wait for her eventual world title run, as I can only imagine someone that protected would have to be the world champion at some point, right?

Evil Vito
03-21-2016, 11:36 PM
LOL wait I totally glossed over the fact that the roster is stretched thin enough that Zack fucking Ryder is getting a WM match.

I mean I'm thrilled for the guy but holy shit.

Evil Vito
03-21-2016, 11:38 PM
All I can think of is "ZACK RYDER GOT A T-SHIRT???"

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Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:38 PM
What if Roman Reigns got injured? Wonder what they would do.

You know what you have to do.

Dark One
03-21-2016, 11:39 PM
LOL wait I totally glossed over the fact that the roster is stretched thin enough that Zack fucking Ryder is getting a WM match.

I mean I'm thrilled for the guy but holy shit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoa...find those foam orange fists in your attic because I'm going to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WrestleMania?src=hash">#WrestleMania</a>!</p>&mdash; Zack Daddy (@ZackRyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackRyder/status/712111368846123012">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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#1-norm-fan
03-21-2016, 11:43 PM
Wait... Zack Ryder has a match at WrestleMania and Bray Wyatt doesn't? Is this what WWE has decided on?

Tammy
03-21-2016, 11:52 PM
Now that RAW is over I'm going to have a sex dream about a three way with Roman Reigns and Shane McMahon

:love::heart::love::heart::love::heart:

Thank you everyone for posting in my thread!!!:kiss::kiss::kiss:

#1-norm-fan
03-22-2016, 12:08 AM
Just tuned in to see New Day promo. How long have they officially been faces and is this how they've acted ever since? That promo was very Cena-esque. And not in a good way. Was waiting for one of them to call Rusev "poopy". Face New Day probably not gonna work out well.

Fox
03-22-2016, 12:37 AM
Wait... Zack Ryder has a match at WrestleMania and Bray Wyatt doesn't? Is this what WWE has decided on?

Bray Wyatt has a neck injury preventing him from wrestling.

Clerk
03-22-2016, 12:57 AM
That bastard Roman reigns is gonna regret putting his hands on the boss. No one fucks with authority

Dark One
03-22-2016, 01:09 AM
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Good for him.

Fignuts
03-22-2016, 02:17 AM
All these guys delivering promos on .com that should be on raw.

Seems dumb.

Emperor Smeat
03-22-2016, 02:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/RgmOCXa.gif

rockman725
03-22-2016, 03:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/RgmOCXa.gif

THIS IS AWESOME! THIS IS AWESOME! THIS IS AWESOME!

rockman725
03-22-2016, 03:08 AM
So last week we had Foley with Barbie. This week we had Funk with a chainsaw. I'm guessing next week is naked Tommy Dreamer with the cheese grater!?!

#1-norm-fan
03-22-2016, 03:29 AM
Al Snow is gonna give Dean Ambrose head.

Dark One
03-22-2016, 09:59 AM
So last week we had Foley with Barbie. This week we had Funk with a chainsaw. I'm guessing next week is naked Tommy Dreamer with the cheese grater!?!

Al Snow is gonna give Dean Ambrose head.

The ghost of the Big Bossman will give him the ghost of Al Snow's dog.

Dark One
03-22-2016, 10:03 AM
Steve Blackman will show up and give him glow in the dark nunchuks.

Rammsteinmad
03-22-2016, 11:10 AM
I can see Zack Ryder being the token "attacked backstage and taken out of the match, only to be replaced by his attacker" guy at Wrestlemania.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-22-2016, 11:15 AM
I can see Zack Ryder being the token "attacked backstage and taken out of the match, only to be replaced by his attacker" guy at Wrestlemania.

Hey, I mean, Nakamura could probably wrestle two nights straight, right? Shoving a guy most of the audience won't have heard of is about the same level as Ryder.

Clerk
03-22-2016, 11:25 AM
THIS IS AWESOME! THIS IS AWESOME! THIS IS AWESOME!

How was this awesome? He cheap shotted the authority he will be punished.

MIZantine Empire
03-22-2016, 02:17 PM
All I can think of is "ZACK RYDER GOT A T-SHIRT???"

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Man, I miss this. R-truth was on fire during that "throwaway" feud.

MIZantine Empire
03-22-2016, 02:22 PM
LOL wait I totally glossed over the fact that the roster is stretched thin enough that Zack fucking Ryder is getting a WM match.

I mean I'm thrilled for the guy but holy shit.

I feel bad for people like Sandow. Was always pretty over, was a fucking mitb holder, pretty decent worker and great on the mic, yet in this wave of injuries he still can't seem to make the card.

MIZantine Empire
03-22-2016, 02:24 PM
As a recently discovered 4% African American (big ups to ancestry) I find it appalling that all of the active black wrestlers are in their own stable. Kudos to them for being the most entertaining thing in wwe right now!

Lock Jaw
03-22-2016, 02:50 PM
Just watching/fast forwarding through RAW right now....

WHAT

It is like they are intentionally doing the worst things possible....

So, instead of having Kevin Owens vs. Sami Zayn in a one on one blood feud type match.... they are now both stuck into a multi-man ladder match.

Meanwhile Kallisto gets the one on one match spot against Ryback. Kallisto, the guy who you would think would be the one to fit right in defending his title in a multi-man ladder match if they wanted one.

This seems totally ass backwards to me.

rockman725
03-22-2016, 03:13 PM
How was this awesome? He cheap shotted the authority he will be punished.

Re-watch that spot on Raw....then look at the GIF. You'll see just how awesome it is

Simple Fan
03-22-2016, 05:55 PM
It is like they are intentionally doing the worst things possible....

So, instead of having Kevin Owens vs. Sami Zayn in a one on one blood feud type match.... they are now both stuck into a multi-man ladder match.

Meanwhile Kallisto gets the one on one match spot against Ryback. Kallisto, the guy who you would think would be the one to fit right in defending his title in a multi-man ladder match if they wanted one.

This seems totally ass backwards to me.

Really, I mean Kalisto is US champion right now because of a OMG moment that happened in a ladder match. Ryback vs Kalisto sounds like a Smackdown match not a WM match. Hope that match is on the pre show.

Rammsteinmad
03-22-2016, 06:21 PM
Ryback doesn't really play to Kalisto's strengths either. Their match during that WWE title tournament was pretty dull. Especially considering that realistically Ryback would walk right through a guy like Kalisto in real life. But also, long matches don't really favour Kalisto, and Kalisto would be better showcased with someone he can fly around with.

Whatever though. It might be a short match full of fast, furious action.

drave
03-22-2016, 06:47 PM
Maybe we get another 17 second title match.

Jordan
03-22-2016, 06:49 PM
There are so many matches that don't matter on this card it's like going back to Wrestlemania 1.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-22-2016, 06:50 PM
Maybe we get another 17 second title match.

With Kalisto winning for the funnies.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-22-2016, 10:22 PM
Still so angry about the styles Owens finish lol

Shadrick
03-23-2016, 12:53 AM
What if Roman Reigns got injured? Wonder what they would do.

duh, fan.


finger poke of doom at mania.

vince finds out the injury and curses the sky "Oh okay God! you don't like Roman either huh?! well he's still goin over, dammit!"

#1-norm-fan
03-23-2016, 12:58 AM
Was gonna call Titan Towers and pitch my award-winning feud with Norman Smiley to fill a spot on the card if needed.

Shadrick
03-23-2016, 08:47 PM
Was gonna call Titan Towers and pitch my award-winning feud with Norman Smiley to fill a spot on the card if needed.

lmao man you're the ultimo troll

DaveWadding
03-23-2016, 09:14 PM
Guys, look on the bright side. At least Mojo Rawley doesn't have a match at Wrestlemania.

The CyNick
03-24-2016, 02:43 PM
RE Owens match

They wanted to get a ladder match on the show to help load it up.

It's not like Zayn is incredibly over right now. I think vs Owens one on one would be a dead segment. Even though it's a cluster, the Ladder Match is pretty close to a can't miss segment on the show. You can spin off Zayn-Owens post Mania.

Ryback vs Kalisto needs to be one on one because of the story they are trying to tell there.

KIRA
03-24-2016, 02:56 PM
RE Owens match

They wanted to get a ladder match on the show to help load it up.

It's not like Zayn is incredibly over right now. I think vs Owens one on one would be a dead segment. Even though it's a cluster, the Ladder Match is pretty close to a can't miss segment on the show. You can spin off Zayn-Owens post Mania.

Ryback vs Kalisto needs to be one on one because of the story they are trying to tell there.

Pretty sure Zayn V Owens could stand on its own despite recognition it's not like those two don't have the ability to pull people into the match

Plus WM crowd usually packed with smarks.

Lock Jaw
03-24-2016, 03:26 PM
It's not like Zayn is incredibly over right now. I think vs Owens one on one would be a dead segment.

That was one of my thoughts too, that WWE thought that Zayn wasn't over/recognized enoughed to merit a one on one spot..... but that is their own fault for waiting for so long after the Rumble to bring him back.

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-24-2016, 04:18 PM
That was one of my thoughts too, that WWE thought that Zayn wasn't over/recognized enoughed to merit a one on one spot..... but that is their own fault for waiting for so long after the Rumble to bring him back.

Nobody is over on the roster really. The mania crowd is different and would likely be hot for that match.

#1-norm-fan
03-24-2016, 04:40 PM
I actually do kind of agree the ladder match is the right call. Us hardcore rasslin'/NXT fans would love it because for us it's been building for a very long time. To the casual fan, Zayn isn't at the level to warrant a 1-on-1 title match at WrestleMania yet. The live crowd would be into it. The live Mania crowd isn't a good representation of the majority of the people watching though.

Then again, looking at how unappealing the card is, I guess it couldn't hurt too much...

drave
03-24-2016, 04:42 PM
Regardless...... Kalisto would have been "more of a spectacle" in the ladder match.

#1-norm-fan
03-24-2016, 04:50 PM
I'd actually be fine with them finding a way for Owens to avoid Zayn at WrestleMania and just throwing the guys in that match into a ladder match with Kalisto and Ryback. Maybe put Owens in Jericho and Styles' feud for a triple threat for the IC Title.

Seems like Kalisto would benefit more from retaining in such a match on such a big stage while Owens-Styles-Jericho would be a WAY better use of a singles match than Ryback-Kalisto.

Granted I haven't paid much attention to the Ryback-Kalisto feud. Maybe it's brilliant and has the fans clamoring for that epic showdown.

The CyNick
03-24-2016, 04:57 PM
Pretty sure Zayn V Owens could stand on its own despite recognition it's not like those two don't have the ability to pull people into the match

Plus WM crowd usually packed with smarks.

True. But even with the smarks I don't think he's that over anymore. Even at recent NXT tapings, his reactions were lukewarm.

He's just not a hot enough babyface right now. Plus I don't think the plan was ever for a singles. KO Mania always sounded like they were planning to have him defend against multiple people.

drave
03-24-2016, 04:58 PM
What feud?

I think Ryback tried to call him out for being "little" but that's it.

The CyNick
03-24-2016, 04:58 PM
That was one of my thoughts too, that WWE thought that Zayn wasn't over/recognized enoughed to merit a one on one spot..... but that is their own fault for waiting for so long after the Rumble to bring him back.

He had storylines going on at NXT. Plus I just don't see what people see in the guy. He's yet another Neville. Nothing stands out about him to me.

drave
03-24-2016, 04:59 PM
KO Mania always sounded like they were planning to have him defend against multiple people.


Going by what exactly? KO Mania, per KO was to have a #1 contenders match so he could face the winner (no "s" on the end) at KO Mania.


Unless you are going kayfabe and believe that was "The Authority's" plan all along.

The CyNick
03-24-2016, 05:00 PM
Regardless...... Kalisto would have been "more of a spectacle" in the ladder match.

That was my initial thought. I figured coming off TLC they would give him another ladder match to shine in. But I guess they liked the big vs little guy story better. Which in the long run might be better.

drave
03-24-2016, 05:01 PM
WIth what build tho......

There hasn't been one. Mind you, that is me "reading" and not watching the programming.

The CyNick
03-24-2016, 05:02 PM
Going by what exactly? KO Mania, per KO was to have a #1 contenders match so he could face the winner (no "s" on the end) at KO Mania.


Unless you are going kayfabe and believe that was "The Authority's" plan all along.

In order for it to be a "mania" of KO i figured it would involve multiple KOs, but just one against a midget.

Just my interpretation of the phrase.

The CyNick
03-24-2016, 05:03 PM
What feud?

I think Ryback tried to call him out for being "little" but that's it.

Its a bully/reality storyline.

Bigger is usually better

#1-norm-fan
03-24-2016, 05:04 PM
Multiple KOs.

drave
03-24-2016, 05:26 PM
Its a bully/reality storyline.

Bigger is usually better


I get that :|

BUT WHERE IS IT OUTSIDE OF 1 COMMENT?

Lock Jaw
03-24-2016, 05:55 PM
He had storylines going on at NXT. Plus I just don't see what people see in the guy. He's yet another Neville. Nothing stands out about him to me.

Feel like he was "outstanding" before his injury.... in terms of connecting with the people and seeming really humble and relatable, etc.... Thought he could be the "next John Cena"... or at the very least a Daniel Bryan...

Ever since he has come back he has looked out of shape and sloppy, though.... missing Cena's ability to heal from injuries quickly and come back looking the exact same.

Ruien
03-24-2016, 06:42 PM
I won't say Zayn is Neville yet because that would be a huge insult. He has time to show his charisma but as of right now he's just some new guy that has not done much.

KIRA
03-24-2016, 10:54 PM
He had storylines going on at NXT. Plus I just don't see what people see in the guy. He's yet another Neville. Nothing stands out about him to me.

Long story short, people love their underdogs man.

Catchy theme helps.

I wouldn't put him in the same class as Neville either. When Neville moved to the main roster I could tell from the start he was doomed. Maybe it ws the cape maybe it was the name being shortened to just Neville (which is stupid who thought that name was marketable?)Sami I see the chance for a really bright future.

Emperor Smeat
03-25-2016, 10:45 AM
I'd argue Sami is closer to Cena than Neville for comparisons and possible future star ceiling.

His character already shares a lot with Cena's but without the negative baggage. Also is one of the few guys from NXT that didn't have issues with promo skills.

Unlike Neville, he also already has his blood rivalry established with Owens that could easily be made into this gens Rock-Austin or Cena-Orton.

Simple Fan
03-25-2016, 10:57 AM
Yeah I agree the singles match should be Zayn/Owens. They have a built in feud that has lasted years and WM is the perfect place to have it culminate. Ryback/Kalisto is about the weakest WM match ever with a shit quick build that no one cares about. If the match last longer than 17 seconds its a joke, even bigger if Kalisto wins. Match should be used to put the US title on Ryback in a dominating fashion. It's just a shit program thrown together at the last second, there is no story to it at all.

#1-norm-fan
03-25-2016, 08:26 PM
I kinda wanna see Owens and Zayn build up a Tommy Dreamer/Raven feud where Zayn just can't beat him. Not a sped-through feud for those with short attention spans where Zayn loses two matches in a month and then the next month "finally" beats him. I wanna see Owens actually win the feud and move on. Then come back to it in a year and Owens wins again. Both guys have years ahead of them. In like 5 years if Zayn has never beaten Owens, a WrestleMania match where Zayn finally gets the job done would be awesome.

Mr. Nerfect
03-25-2016, 08:38 PM
The Ladder Match with Owens is fine, but Zayn being in there kind of dilutes their personal history. I'd have just waited until after WrestleMania to call up Zayn. Have him attack Owens on the post-Mania RAW as Owens bitches to Shane McMahon about how he doesn't have the IC Title because of some bullshit multi-man match.

I've got more of a problem with who they've put in it. Not the talent themselves, but just how that talent has been perceived for years. Stardust is fine. He stands out and always performs well in Ladder Matches. Ziggler and Miz are fine. They've both won big Ladder Matches and have been IC Champion numerous times. Plus they have a storyline reason for being in there. Zack Ryder and Sin Cara are just two characters that haven't been presented anywhere near being a threat though. I get that Neville was hurt, but at least someone like Tyler Breeze has been on TV. He could have appeared behind Owens on RAW as he backs away from all his challengers, laid him out and then taken a selfie with the "uggo."

I really thought Kane would find his way in there, but they're forcing this Battle Royal on the pre-show in yet another "get everyone on the card" match. This is what that Ladder Match is for. Having both Big Show and Kane in a Ladder Match might seem lumbersome, but the spectacle of Big Show climbing and then falling off could get a big pop. Owens could powerbomb him through a ladder or something. If he's healthy, Bray Wyatt should be in there.

I really feel that it should have been Kevin Owens, Big Show, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, Stardust, Tyler Breeze (replacing Neville), Bray Wyatt & Kane. Has got more "cred."