OFFICIAL HARDY vs HARDY: The Final Deletion Thread

[Evil Vito]

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[Heisenberg]

That could be pic of the week Brother Cruz. Congrats on the fitness goals too brah

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You know what. It is absolutely horrendous. But one has to assume that Matt and Jeff embraced the wrestecrap nature of the whole thing and just ran with it. It's certainly no worse than the Sid, Vader, midget, Bulldog and Sting fiasco (in fact I'd say it's better because at there seems to be a certain awareness). J.R.s praise for it is kind of... odd.... but I do have the distinct idea that Matt and Jeff were in on the joke.

I would have cut it by a few minutes, but it's certainly better than a half an hour of Stephanie McMahon putting herself over during a RAW segment. That's not saying very much though. And one must wonder with all that effort placed into something absolutely batshit insane, what could be accomplished if they placed all that energy into creating a great product with clear focus and easy to follow storylines.

But I will never in my life watch that again, lol.

[Droford]

TNA and Chikara should merge. Think of how huge the ratings would be

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Delightful! It's an extraordinary xylophone.

[GD]

You know what. It is absolutely horrendous. But one has to assume that Matt and Jeff embraced the wrestecrap nature of the whole thing and just ran with it. It's certainly no worse than the Sid, Vader, midget, Bulldog and Sting fiasco (in fact I'd say it's better because at there seems to be a certain awareness). J.R.s praise for it is kind of... odd.... but I do have the distinct idea that Matt and Jeff were in on the joke.

I would have cut it by a few minutes, but it's certainly better than a half an hour of Stephanie McMahon putting herself over during a RAW segment. That's not saying very much though. And one must wonder with all that effort placed into something absolutely batshit insane, what could be accomplished if they placed all that energy into creating a great product with clear focus and easy to follow storylines.

But I will never in my life watch that again, lol.

Something tells me that Jeff Hardy wasn't on it whereas Matt Hardy was.

[Simple Fan]

Agree, didn't seem like Jeff was all that into it but then again he's always been the worst promo/actor of the two. That's why I'm real interested to see who Matt feuds with next because I feel like someone other than Jeff could really click with the Broken Matt Hardy character. EC3 would be my choice, the golden boy of the company that Matt must DAHLEET.

[Heisenberg]

Brother Nero can't even fathom his man-made pond, he also DAHLEETED himself

[Heisenberg]

Love reading all the hate about the Hardy feud and Lesnar. Some people just hate to see others succeed. The UFC jackoff fans on Facebook poop on Lesnar for no good reason. When I see Lesnar I see a man who is not to be fucked with. He has reached the top level of sports entertainment and MMA, provides for his family, is HOME with his family(can't be said for most of those jackoffs sitting on their phone shitting on anything Lesnar-related), raised on a farm and started from nothing.


Call me bias, but I still remember The Hardy Boyz jumping off ladders and flipping off turnbuckles a little more than they should have. They deserve respect and can get away with having a say in their vision. That's why I can appreciate their Magnum Opus of B-Movie righteousness and move along with my days

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You know what. It is absolutely horrendous. But one has to assume that Matt and Jeff embraced the wrestecrap nature of the whole thing and just ran with it. It's certainly no worse than the Sid, Vader, midget, Bulldog and Sting fiasco (in fact I'd say it's better because at there seems to be a certain awareness). J.R.s praise for it is kind of... odd.... but I do have the distinct idea that Matt and Jeff were in on the joke.

I would have cut it by a few minutes, but it's certainly better than a half an hour of Stephanie McMahon putting herself over during a RAW segment. That's not saying very much though. And one must wonder with all that effort placed into something absolutely batshit insane, what could be accomplished if they placed all that energy into creating a great product with clear focus and easy to follow storylines.

But I will never in my life watch that again, lol.

A couple of podcasts have a theory that the Slammiversary contract signing was played seriously, but it was so shit that Matt just pivoted it into the Final Deletion being totally campy, but I disagree. The Slammiversary contract signing had Reby throwing the doll of a baby trying to pretend it was Maxel and a shot that was left in of Matt failing to get out of the ring properly and even setup Senor Benjamin. He knows what he's doing, he just dialled it in better for this. But either wya, he does know how ridiculous this all is and he's revelling in it like some of his ROH work and even Big Money Matt in TNA:

You don't understand how hard it is to be Matt Hardy (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=04sj4oxrJaM)

Jeffs a smart enough guy so I want to believe he's in on it but doesn't have much acting range, but then I remember his album and the fact that he does legit have his symbol mowed into his lawn....

[Simple Fan]

I'll be honest, the people who are gonna give me feedback across social media, this character really isn't out to catch them. It isn't out to attract them. This is out to attract more of a casual fan. And that is what Impact Wrestling has to do to grow right now. Because the audience that we get weekly - we get between 300 and 350 thousand live viewers and between 500 and 600 thousand by the time they watch it on DVR or whatever the number is - we have to add casual viewers. That is where TNA has to go if they want to grow because we lost those casual viewers after the Spike era and we're trying to get those casual viewers back and bring them to POP TV. That is what we're working on now and my character is definitely someone who is there to attract casual viewers, not the smart mark fans.

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2016/5/30/11811442/matt-hardy-says-his-new-broken-character-is-not-for-you

[Droford]

He's crazy if he thinks that's going to get casual fans to watch. I think you have to be die hard fan to not think that it was stupid.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He's crazy if he thinks that's going to get casual fans to watch. I think you have to be die hard fan to not think that it was stupid.

I have heard a couple of lapsed fans that haven't watched since the early 2000's that heard about it on Twitter and watched it. One loved it, one hated it and I'm in the UK so it won't help the POP rating, but the buzz seems to have gotten outside the usual circles.

[GD]

He's crazy if he thinks that's going to get casual fans to watch. I think you have to be die hard fan to not think that it was stupid.

I hear you, Droford. But I'm more for a live free die hard fan myself.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Fuck you guys.

[BigCrippyZ]

Well that was... something. Honestly I'm not sure how I feel about it. Need more time to digest what I just witnessed.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Fuck you guys.

http://i.imgur.com/4PINrSV.jpg

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vanguard1?src=hash">#Vanguard1</a> has pinpointed sacrilege. <a href="https://twitter.com/BenjaminSenor">@BenjaminSenor</a>, maintain the battlefield. We've located another <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BrotherNero?src=hash">#BrotherNero</a>.. <a href="https://t.co/nPAhVqRyF9">https://t.co/nPAhVqRyF9</a></p>&mdash; #BROKEN Matt Hardy (@MATTHARDYBRAND) <a href="https://twitter.com/MATTHARDYBRAND/status/751440949759270912">July 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Beat up
Delete
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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Maxine from Lucha Underground favourited a Tweet that I sent to my friend recommending he watch this. The power of Broken Matt again.

[Simple Fan]

What will the consequences of the Final Deletion be?
TNA has announced the following for next week’s Destination X-themed episode of Impact:

* TNA World Title Match: Bobby Lashley vs. Eddie Edwards
* Knockouts Title Match: Sienna vs. Marti Bell vs. Gail Kim vs. Jade
* X-Division #1 Contender’s Ladder Match: Rockstar Spud vs. DJ Z vs. Braxton Sutter vs. Mandrews vs. Andrew Everett vs. Trevor Lee
* Drew Galloway vs. Ethan Carter
* Matt Hardy discusses the consequences from The Final Deletion

[Simple Fan]

Final Deletion Easter eggs and mythos from Squared Circle on reddit
Maxel's hair style is the same as Matt's, though not streaked.

Reby can speak to "Senor Benjamin" in Spanish and they exchange knowing glances. Is he really their gardener? or is this Matt's delusion and they are both going along with it?

Benjamin's gift of the Extraordinary Xylophone is relevant to the story, as musical instruments have played a key role. Matt uses them to summon Jeff. What will happen when Maxell plays the Xylophone?

Matt Hardy Vanguard 1 (call back to Matt Hardy v1)

V1 drone lists Jeff's alias as "Jimmy Jack Tomkins" and maksed [sic] mountain character he played when he was a kid.

V1 also lists Jeff's signature move as "phony twist of fate"

Drone somehow rings a doorbell

There are seven drones in all that come to Jeff House. This number is the amount of Tag championships the Hardys have won.

The violin summons Jeff. This symbolises the call of addiction. Edit: Others have pointed out the Emperor Nero reference:this makes more sense.

The ring has two large trees next to it, one for each Hardy. Jeff climbs the one on his corner, showing that during their career he has been the one to take more risks. The Flashback near the end also has a reference to "Union pines" school. Of course, this "union" of brothers is now broken.

The ladder is of course call back to the ladder matches that got the Hardys their initial fame.

Not sure what the Trellis represent?

Matt attacks Jeff with fireworks This symbolises when Jeff was injured by fireworks on smackdown

The Dilapidated Boat symbolises their leaving the WWE and coming to TNA. While TNA has struggled with finances, it still provides a place for wrestlers to work and protects them from unemployment.

Willow is Willow.

Matt uses the torch in the darkness, this symbolises his lowest point, when he was unemployed after leaving WWE and searching for purpose.

Senor Benjamin shows he is more than just a gardener by tazing Jeff. Is he the real puppet master here?

The match started at sunset and finished at sunrise. They fought all night.

The candle from Maxel's cake comes back to save the day.

"Son's first birthday"= Sun's first birthday. The sun is rising as Matt says this and "the Sun's first birthday" means the first day of a new era. Alternatively he could be celebrating Maxells first day without the malignant influence of his evil Uncle Nero.

The flashback has images from posing as teens, winning the TNA tag titles, outside Union pines highschool (remember the two pines next to the ring?) Swanton from the heavens, picture as kids.

Jeff falls onto the dirt, the same place where he hurt his leg in a dirt bike accident, the accident that triggered everything. The Hardys were in the middle of their first ever TNA world tag reign, when Jeff injured himself. This led to Matt making a quest for the World title, a quest that would eventually consume him.

[owenbrown]

Without watching a second of this abomination, I think if or when Matt and Jeff return to the WWE, I am almost certain they will have 2 Wellness strikes a piece automatically against them. Also, Hasney should be deleted along with this thread for even bringing this up.

[Simple Fan]

You should really watch it owen.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Without watching a second of this abomination, I think if or when Matt and Jeff return to the WWE, I am almost certain they will have 2 Wellness strikes a piece automatically against them. Also, Hasney should be deleted along with this thread for even bringing this up.

Calling something an abomination without watching it is rather odd.

[James Steele]

At least watch it and suffer like the rest of us. Don't piggyback off of our pain.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Without watching a second of this abomination, I think if or when Matt and Jeff return to the WWE, I am almost certain they will have 2 Wellness strikes a piece automatically against them. Also, Hasney should be deleted along with this thread for even bringing this up.

Go fuck yourself or I'll create a sock account to harass you and fuck with your blood pressure.

[Fignuts]

Without watching a second of this abomination, I think if or when Matt and Jeff return to the WWE, I am almost certain they will have 2 Wellness strikes a piece automatically against them. Also, Hasney should be deleted along with this thread for even bringing this up.

Terrorist

[VSG]

This was more downright terrible than funny.

[Simple Fan]

I have watched 5 times now and I think it gets better every time. Matt Hardy is a genius.

[Mercenary]

Shut up Owen

[Heisenberg]

Without watching a second of this abomination, I think if or when Matt and Jeff return to the WWE, I am almost certain they will have 2 Wellness strikes a piece automatically against them. Also, Hasney should be deleted along with this thread for even bringing this up.

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh hey, look what I bought.

http://shopmatthardy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/shop-matt-hardy-heel-delete.jpg
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think that is the most "wrestling" t-shirt ever. Like something nobody will understand unless you are a fan of wrestling.

[#1-norm-fan]

Just watched this.

... Amazing.

[#1-norm-fan]

"It's a dilapidated boat!"

[GD]

I'm waiting for a "Señor Benjamin Lives!" t-shirt.

[#1-norm-fan]

http://www.prowrestlingtees.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/a/hardys1006.jpg

[KIRA]

I want both of these I don't care if virtually no one will get it in fact I am a fan of non discript shirt designs so its all good to me

[Simple Fan]

TNA is live this week for Destination X. Matt have the dilapidated boat a name in the opening video. Scars God's or something like that.

[Simple Fan]

Lol Broken Matt Hardy strongly dislikes mustard.

[Simple Fan]

Oh shit Moose is in the Impact Zone.

[Dark One]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

I have to download another Impact? It still feels all kinds of wrong.

[KIRA]

Why hasn't Matt Hardy always been this fucking brilliant?(the man is wrestling's Ed Wood and this is his Plan 9)

Also mad props to him for actually doing what he said he would do get people talking about TNA he even got the attention of Vince and Co.

[Innovator]

"I'm not Spanish, I'm Romanian."

"Wonderful!"

[Tom Guycott]

Oh my god, that movie poster of Maxel Libre is too cute!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Why hasn't Matt Hardy always been this fucking brilliant?(the man is wrestling's Ed Wood and this is his Plan 9)

Also mad props to him for actually doing what he said he would do get people talking about TNA he even got the attention of Vince and Co.

Matt Harvey V1, his died with MVP and his ROH work was all fantastic. It was just all leading up to this.

[Simple Fan]

Some details on the vignettes from Impact last night.
The Matt Hardy vignettes that aired on Impact last night were filmed on Monday at Matt Hardy’s home.

— Brad Stutts, the long-time booker of CWF Mid-Atlantic, played Matt’s butler and scribe. A close friend of Reby Sky played the part of Rita the servant.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Rita?...ahhhhhhhhh!!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

TNA Impact Ratings are back to the crapper with 358,000. The thing that has been DELETED are the viewers.

It was former PPV themed episode too Destination X.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ended up being one of those good/bad type situations. Lower than last week's Final Deletion but also higher than 2 weeks ago.

Makes sense since all the recent hype for TNA was for the actual Final Deletion match and now that's done, most of the new audience left.

This is down 13% from last week's 410,000 viewers for The Final Deletion but is up from the week before, which had 322,000 viewers.

358k people watched this weeks show. They retained 36k of last weeks 88k increase.

[Simple Fan]

I think those are pretty good considering the MLB All Star games was on at the same time.

[KIRA]

Matt Harvey V1, his died with MVP and his ROH work was all fantastic. It was just all leading up to this.

But in none of those runs did he ever out shine Jeff this time though,he's managed to absolutely steal the show and he didn't have to jump of the tallest thing in the building to get over.

[#1-norm-fan]

I've watched this like 5 times already. I want more. I hope all Matt's matches are like this from now on.

[slik]

damn it

I missed it, how was it overal (I liked last week's impact)

[Simple Fan]

It was alright Moose showed up to help Bennett ruin the show. Broken Matt Hardy vignettes were great again.

[slik]

Is Moose good?

[Simple Fan]

He's an athletic big man that has got a lot better in the last year or two. Never been a big talker but isn't horrible on the mic.

[Lock Jaw]

Recorded this to watch the Matt Hardy segments only. Was good.

[#1-norm-fan]

I watched part of the rest of the episode that the FINAL DELETION took place on. Seemed alright. Characters were actually being developed and stuff as opposed to just a bunch of pointless shit. Felt hard to really get into though. More of that Matt Hardy stuff, please.

[Tom Guycott]

I just noticed Broken Matt's theme is now the 3rd movement of Moonlight Sonata. Exquisite! This shit is getting better all the time!

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Prepare the green beans post haste!
And whatever you do, when you come back, do not bring mustard....
I strongly dislike mustard

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

But in none of those runs did he ever out shine Jeff this time though,he's managed to absolutely steal the show and he didn't have to jump of the tallest thing in the building to get over.

False.

V1 Matt Smackdown> Jeff at the same time on Raw.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh yeah, The Aftermath is on TNAs channel now.

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Also the Destination X promo

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"You'll just go and work for that megalomaniac in New York, Mick Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!"

[owenbrown]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Better doing drugs than be a racist like an owenbrown type

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[#1-norm-fan]

It's an extraordinary video, Hasney! Gracias.

[GD]

Love Hasney's enthusiasm for the storyline.

[Tom Guycott]

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... 'the fuck is John Kornus? Is the WWE Random Name Generator on the fritz? Or is he the tag partner of Perry Starun?

The Elmininators!

[Sixx]

wait a fucking second, they were fighting in the woods?

[Simple Fan]

They were on the Hardys property. Have you watched The Final Deletion, Sixx? If not I recommend it.

[ron the dial]

it was..... interesting. i was far more entertained by the out of ring stuff than the match itself. matt is hilarious in this role. match wasn't awful, and it had a unique feel, but i'm not exactly looking to see anything else like that soon.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Matt Hardy did an AMA over at Reddit and it is delightful. (https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/4tzc2y/the_brilliance_of_matt_hardy_is_upon_you_ask_me/)

http://i.imgur.com/G4Z08uE.png
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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Skarsgard & Vanguard1 will accompany me, along with my loyal platoon, for a PPV entrance in future days.

I hope this is true

[Simple Fan]

Couple of my favorites from the AMA
Frogman417

If Mr. Meekmahan would sell his entire roster to TNA, who would you want to fight in a Final Deletion match first?


BrokenMattHardyAMA

The general consensus states that Brother Nero Reigns is the first who deserves to face the darkness of DELETION.

SamCroBizkit

Have any interest in deleting #BrotherWyatt in the future?

BrokenMattHardyAMA

I have issued an open challenge to Brother Nero Wyatt. I will meet him on either Impact Wrestling, MEEKMaHan's show, the Honorable Wrestling, The New Wrestling in Japan, The Battlefield or the Compound.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/3fPPQVMh.jpg

[Simple Fan]

Broken Matt Hardy was recently a guest on the Sam Roberts Wrestling podcast, and during the in-character appearance Hardy had the following to say about the WWE segment featuring The New Day and The Wyatt Family at the Wyatt compound:

“I saw that blasphemy, that sacrilege. Nero, Wyatts, I know what they’re doing. Oh, they are copying. They are mimicking. They saw the greatness of The Final Deletion. I went out and I deleted Brother Nero, the man who was a thorn in my side. They tried to jump on it, thinking they could use WWE and McMahon and his money to produce some masterpiece that could blow away what we put together as Final Deletion.”

[Simple Fan]

Also Mr. Broken Hasney the other Hardy should be deleted from the thread title. This should be the OFFICIAL Broken Matt Hardy thread.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[Simple Fan]

That's great. Jeff's in the background being OBSOLETE with his triangle is classic. Matt continues to kill it.

[XL]

The poster/dvd cover makes no sense.

[Simple Fan]

Yz4twOWSdBk

[Anybody Thrilla]

Guys. Please. Shut the fuck up.

[Simple Fan]

Don't open the thread if you don't want to see any of it. It's that simple.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Guys. Please. Shut the fuck up.

I'm not trolling. I legit think this is the best thing in wrestling so far this year and it isn't even close.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I wanted to open the thread to tell you guys to shut the fuck up. I'm allowed to do that.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I know you're not trolling. That's the most unsettling thing about all of this.

[Innovator]

Calm down Brother Thrillo

[Anybody Thrilla]

You stop that right now.

[GD]

Calm down Brother Thrillo

That's hilarious, Inno.

[Anybody Thrilla]

It most certainly is not.

Just pretty funny.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Brother Thrillo

I knew you'd come

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Feel like I should get señor Juan to prepare the battlefield

[GD]

It most certainly is not.

Just pretty funny.

Don't hate the playa, Brother Thrillo, hate the game.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Stop calling me "brother". That's racist.

[KIRA]

Matt Hardy has been incredible with this gimmick

I also found it funny that Bray Wyatt would take exception to this character.

[Blonde Moment]

Stop calling me "brother". That's racist.

It's racist to not believe that we are brothers under the skin Brother Thrillo

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm not trolling. I legit think this is the best thing in wrestling so far this year and it isn't even close.

Seriously. I would take this ridiculousness over meaningless matches between a bunch of 50/50 booked guys with no credibility or personality to speak of any day of the fucking week.

[Blonde Moment]

Jericho's podcast with Matt was really a thing of beauty

[#BROKEN Hasney]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A beloved giraffe from my personal zoo. His vessel contains the soul of our country's forefather, George Washington. <a href="https://t.co/0xo02J9F7G">pic.twitter.com/0xo02J9F7G</a></p>&mdash; #BROKEN Matt Hardy (@MATTHARDYBRAND) <a href="https://twitter.com/MATTHARDYBRAND/status/768824900320579584">25 August 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Simple Fan]

Looks like he's trying to eat the giraffe.

[Simple Fan]

Love Matt Hardys Twitter, the only Twitter that I look at regularly.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Seriously was worried that Jeff being broken was the shark jumping, but watching it now, this is the best work Jeff has done too.

Those that questioned if he was in on it seem silly now. He's playing his part too.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Matt yelling at Nero when he's on the top rope is great. YOU MUST NOT BE A SPOT MONKEY AND FIGHT WITH HONOR is fantastic.

[Simple Fan]

Treating the top rope as if it was a drug and Jeff keeps relapsing.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Just in case you needed a karaoke version of Brother Nero's theme, someone made one.

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[Rollermacka]

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Vanguard One for TNA Grand Champion....

[Simple Fan]

The reincarnation of Brother Nero was great. Thank the 7 Deities for giving life back to Vanguard 1.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You know what, I thought Jeff being broken was going to make this jump the shark as he wouldn't keep up, but man, he's held his part of the bargain. He's fucking great.

https://youtu.be/okgfXmRbVMU

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree with Thrilla, this is pretty dirt.

But Matt Hardy owning a giraffe is pretty sick.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I could actually get behind the gimmick if it weren't for the Delete or Decay stuff. I actually buy Matt and Jeff Hardy as insane artists who want to reinvent themselves and are kind of trapped in their own fantasy land. It's just a shame when they try to drag us literally into it.

It's like Hogan looking into the mirror and seeing Warrior.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, and Matt Hardy calling New Japan "The New Wrestling" and ROH "The Honorable Wrestling" is mildly funny.

[Simple Fan]

I could actually get behind the gimmick if it weren't for the Delete or Decay stuff. I actually buy Matt and Jeff Hardy as insane artists who want to reinvent themselves and are kind of trapped in their own fantasy land. It's just a shame when they try to drag us literally into it.

It's like Hogan looking into the mirror and seeing Warrior.

So you just don't like who they are feuding with? Personally I think Decay is the best team that the Broken Hardys could feud with. Just the best thing in wrestling this year in my opinion.

[Innovator]

I agree with Thrilla, this is pretty dirt.

But Matt Hardy owning a giraffe is pretty sick.
That's the first President of the United States you're talking about, show some respect.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So you just don't like who they are feuding with? Personally I think Decay is the best team that the Broken Hardys could feud with. Just the best thing in wrestling this year in my opinion.

No, no, no, sorry -- I mean that whole style of presentation. The backyard hokey stuff.

[Evil Vito]

I still view all the Hardy stuff as "so shit that's it's good". Their segments are the only stuff in TNA I actively seek out because I want to see how much more batshit insane they can get.

[Simple Fan]

Pretty sure that's how it's supposed to be viewed. It's real campy and funny as hell.

[mike adamle]

Can't believe there's people that can't find any entertainment value in these Hardy segments, but to each their own I suppose.

[Rollermacka]

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Matt Hardy picking on the one guy in wrestling that looks more out of shape than he does? Targets are running thing for The Broken One.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Matt Hardy picking on the one guy in wrestling that looks more out of shape than he does? Targets are running thing for The Broken One.

It's from 2014. He had a feud with Steen in ROH (and it was pretty hilarious).

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Also, not the only target he could use if needed...

http://i.imgur.com/itkRJyD.jpg

Still, some delightful news that even that obsolete mule Brother Noid cannot deny

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonydimoro/2016/09/22/wwe-interested-in-tna-star-matt-hardy/#397d31a44523

Hardy, who has creative control in TNA, has been one of pro-wrestling’s biggest stars in the past year and one of the most unique characters for his Broken Matt Hardy angle. It’s unclear how WWE would utilize Hardy if he did return to company but one has to speculate that WWE would also want to ramp up their efforts to bring back Jeff Hardy as well.

[Simple Fan]

Broken Matt Hardy in WWE would probably suck. They did nothing with the Dudley's and I wouldn't expect anything better for the Hardy's. If they let him do what he wanted I think it would fit their PG TV though. Hasn't done anything non PG really unless biting people isn't PG.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The gimmick would be exposed so fast.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The money is in a short Hardys run as a tag team, then Jeff Hardy doing something on his own. Matt Hardy can move down the card and be a decent enough enhancement act on the lower-end of the roster, since people will care about him due to his history.

[Simple Fan]

The gimmick would be exposed so fast.

How exactly would it be exposed? Who would expose it. Personally I believe the WWE Universe would eat it up. Already small DELETE chants on WWE shows. Like I mentioned earlier he keeps it kayfabe with his Twitter and guest appearances so I don't think he would be exposed in that way. I dont really want to see it as I'd rather he keep creative control of the character but I have no doubt WWE fans would love it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It exposes itself. Fans might cheer it for a week or two, but then they realize it's hipster shit and lose interest when they realize the shtick is really shallow.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He'd do backstage segments where he crashes interviews and everyone just rolls their eyes at him and walk away. It'd be lame. It's already old in TNA.

[Simple Fan]

Hipster shit? Yeah I'm not listening to you anymore, you clearly haven't seen enough of the him if you think he's hipster shit.

[mike adamle]

He'd do backstage segments where he crashes interviews and everyone just rolls their eyes at him and walk away. It'd be lame. It's already old in TNA.

When was the last time you actually watched TNA? How would you know what is old and what is not? Stop trying to pick apart what you haven't watched in over a year. You look dumb.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I watched the Delete or Decay segment because it was posted here.

[Simple Fan]

I watched the Delete or Decay segment because it was posted here.

Exactly, so how do you know if its getting old? Fans in the Impact Zone are still going along with it and have embraced it even more since Jeff has joined him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The fans in the Impact Zone don't even pay to get into the shows...

You can tell it's getting old because the ratings aren't consistently higher and people aren't sticking with it. 411,000 people watched it. Cool. How many people came back the next week? The week after? Hey, he's doing another one -- maybe more people will watch? Nope, less. Alright. People watched the freak show once, and some people will see it again because they're late hearing the word, but do you really think this is really connecting with anyone but the mutants already watching Impact? Honest question.

A quick YouTube search informs me that Final Deletion has been watched 437,848 times. Shinsuke Nakamura's entrance theme (keep in mind he hasn't even wrestled on the main roster yet) has been downloaded over 10x that amount.

I'm glad you can enjoy it, but please stop acting as if this even appeals to a fraction of *wrestling fans* let alone the average person.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Matt Hardy can get himself talked about -- I'll give him that much. He knows how to throw shit at the wall. Unfortunately he's not as great at making it stick. He doesn't seem to understand the difference between good attention and bad attention. He's the kid making weird noises in class and throwing bricks through the window. This is the sort of stuff that Vince Russo said would help WCW in 1999.

When his contract expires next year, I doubt he will be worth as much as he is even now. Given the pace at which TNA moves, because they never hit pay-dirt and are constantly looking for it, and given how fickle fans are -- Matt Hardy will have completely changed again in the next 10 months. He'll be "Surge the Revolutionator" or something from his OMEGA bag of "shouldn't have been" gimmicks, or he'll be plain old Matt Hardy again. Or he'll be Fixed Matt Hardy. Or he'll be Matt Hardy with Lime. His currency won't be the same though, and it'll be interesting to see if the WWE wants him then, or if they just try to get Jeff and push him for the merchandise.

It wouldn't surprise me if "No More Words" hits one day, and Matt and Jeff Hardy both come out, doing their hand signals, and they just do their through the motions Hardy Boyz style stuff and go after the Tag Titles though, and "Broken Matt Hardy" becomes a vague "Hey, do you remember that?" talking point.

[Simple Fan]

Comparing WWE to TNA is silly. I never said he was the most seen wrestler of 2016. I gave my opinion on how I thought the Broken Matt Hardy character would do in WWE after Broken Hasney posted that article. Given that platform though I have no doubt that Broken Matt Hardy would be able to win over the WWE Universe.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is all reminding me of when Giant Haystacks joined The Dungeon of Doom as "Loch Ness" for some reason. That actually spiked a rating for Nitro back in early 1996. A 2.9 jumped to a 3.7. But Arn Anderson also defeated Hulk Hogan, so maybe that was the reason.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Comparing WWE to TNA is silly. I never said he was the most seen wrestler of 2016. I gave my opinion on how I thought the Broken Matt Hardy character would do in WWE after Broken Hasney posted that article. Given that platform though I have no doubt that Broken Matt Hardy would be able to win over the WWE Universe.

Matt Hardy is already over on his WWE laurels. He wouldn't *need* to win over the WWE Universe. I don't get why he'd need to come in and do this shitty gimmick in the first place...

It'd be like John Cena coming out as "Dave the Fisherman" next week. Maybe it'd get over because Cena is over and we'd be ranting about how good Dave the Fisherman is, but I don't see why you would do that.

[Simple Fan]

I agree he could come in a just Matt Hardy but why not let him be this extreme character rather than normal like everyone else. I don't know what to say about your John Cena/Dave the Fisherman thing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Because it's terrible.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Obviously he wouldn't start with the gimmick, but considering he's done V1, Big Money Matt and now Broken, he's had more popular gimmicks than most people in WWE. He could do something else, or introduce that character through, *gasp* storytelling. Hell, you could even have him come in as broken straight away and say that's how he became after Mr Meekmahhhn fired him all those years ago.

Lol at him being exposed though when you've got people like Dean "I'm so crazy but not really I just do this shitty clothesline" Ambrose right at the top of the card. Shifty gimmicks don't matter if you can talk yourself out of them, and Matt certainly can.

[Rollermacka]

It's from 2014. He had a feud with Steen in ROH (and it was pretty hilarious).

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Also, not the only target he could use if needed...

http://i.imgur.com/itkRJyD.jpg

Still, some delightful news that even that obsolete mule Brother Noid cannot deny

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonydimoro/2016/09/22/wwe-interested-in-tna-star-matt-hardy/#397d31a44523

I lolled at this.....

I will say though, somewhat unrelated, I have shared a locker room with Hero multiple times and I've actually gotten to do a wrestling seminar hosted by him..... He's not "as bad as he looks" in these pics. The guy is pretty tall, roughly same height as everyone's favorite Titan (maybe an inch or so taller) and I can't think of a match I've seen him in where I've seen him "looking exhausted". I think if he got a "higher waistband" ala Joe, Rusev, Mojo Rawley, etc nobody would really say he looks out of shape.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Obviously he wouldn't start with the gimmick, but considering he's done V1, Big Money Matt and now Broken, he's had more popular gimmicks than most people in WWE. He could do something else, or introduce that character through, *gasp* storytelling. Hell, you could even have him come in as broken straight away and say that's how he became after Mr Meekmahhhn fired him all those years ago.

Lol at him being exposed though when you've got people like Dean "I'm so crazy but not really I just do this shitty clothesline" Ambrose right at the top of the card. Shifty gimmicks don't matter if you can talk yourself out of them, and Matt certainly can.

I think the most convincing thing you said in there was that there are plenty of shifty gimmicks already near the top of WWE. That's actually a fair point. I still don't think Broken Matt would work in WWE. It's a "no one is really watching this" ironic gimmick that works in a backyard fed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I lolled at this.....

I will say though, somewhat unrelated, I have shared a locker room with Hero multiple times and I've actually gotten to do a wrestling seminar hosted by him..... He's not "as bad as he looks" in these pics. The guy is pretty tall, roughly same height as everyone's favorite Titan (maybe an inch or so taller) and I can't think of a match I've seen him in where I've seen him "looking exhausted". I think if he got a "higher waistband" ala Joe, Rusev, Mojo Rawley, etc nobody would really say he looks out of shape.

The attire he chooses to wear doesn't help him. That's a good suggestion you made, but I don't think Hero gives two fucks because he's tremendous.

[Rollermacka]

The attire he chooses to wear doesn't help him. That's a good suggestion you made, but I don't think Hero gives two fucks because he's tremendous.

Yea, ironically enough I was having a conversation last night about this kinda topic (I was wearing a singlet, while two 300+ lb guys were wearing trunks)

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I think that if Hero had alittle more "flattering" trunks (kind of how Joe has), I don't think people would mention his physique as much as they do....

[#1-norm-fan]

I think the most convincing thing you said in there was that there are plenty of shifty gimmicks already near the top of WWE. That's actually a fair point. I still don't think Broken Matt would work in WWE. It's a "no one is really watching this" ironic gimmick that works in a backyard fed.

It works in the same way Lucha Underground works. If you don't judge Lucha Underground super seriously like you judge the most basic, pure Cornette form of wrestling and instead just look at it as a form of entertainment that happens to revolve around wrestling it's fine.

Same with this. I don't judge by serious wrestling standards. I judge it as stand-alone entertainment. And as stand-alone entertainment it's ridiculous in the best possible way. It's basically Matt Hardy saying "if wrestling/sports entertainment can't be taken seriously in 2016, then why not go the complete opposite direction and milk some entertainment out of the absurdity of it?"

[Mr. Nerfect]

I get the way Lucha Underground works. Weirdly, it doesn't bother me as much. I don't love LU by any stretch, but it sets its own rules. TNA is somewhere in between, where you have this absurd stuff and then have Bobby Lashley on the same show. The changing in tone could give a fella whiplash.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I could see why that would be a problem. I don't watch the rest of TNA so I don't get that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You're still probably one of the biggest fans they have, Broken One.

[Simple Fan]

Its not a problem for me. I like that they have characters that are not all the same. Gives the show a different feel every segment. I can see why someone wouldn't like that though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtT7hmPWEAAIkxv.jpg

If I could talk someone into going, I probably would

[Heisenberg]

hit up Brother CSL and see if he wants to be deleted

[Sixx]

so what is this tour about? is he gonna wrestle or just talk?

[Simple Fan]

He's going to DELETE.

[mike adamle]

Meh. I like the movies, but I dunno about him doing stand up. I listened to the Broken Matt Hardy Talk Is Jericho and it was brutal. Was funny for the first few minutes but when he just repeats what you've already seen on tv it loses it's edge.

[Simple Fan]

Stand up? Is that what its supposed to be? Just thought he was having some matches over there.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Its not really stand up, it's him talking to an audience. Like the Paul Hetman thing.