Official SummerSlam 2016 Thread

[GD]

Fun Facts

1. Randy Orton is the youngest World Heavyweight Champion (and the youngest world champion overall in the WWE).

2. Brock Lesnar is the younger WWE Champion (WWE World Champion).

3. Finn Balor is the youngest WWE Universal Champion of all time :shifty:

[Dark One]

:lol: Is this seriously one of the "top 4" events of the year?

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[slik]

Let's go BROCK!

[KIRA]

Its weird hearing Orton talk about having a problem with lesnar not liking people Orton himself seems like he might be a bit of a dick to anyone who isn't his family and close friends.

[Dark One]

The guy with the "Got Juice?" sign is a brave, brave individual.

[Locke]

No ringpost pyro with the gay new ringposts

[Dark One]

Its weird hearing Orton talk about having a problem with lesnar not liking people Orton himself seems like he might be a bit of a dick to anyone who isn't his family and close friends.

They apparently edited out Orton following that up with "Shit, I don't like people either, and I've been here for 15 years." or something similar.

[GD]

Is the RAW announce team calling the main event?

[Droford]

University of Suplex City shirts incoming

[GD]

Is the RAW announce team calling the main event?

Smackdown represent baby!

[Droford]

Its weird hearing Orton talk about having a problem with lesnar not liking people Orton himself seems like he might be a bit of a dick to anyone who isn't his family and close friends.

Wonder if Brock ever shit in someones bag

[Locke]

So is this just the stage for SummerSlam, or is it gonna be the new PPV Stage

[Dark One]

Woah. Giving Mauro the call over Cole?

[Droford]

Match would have been great 12 years ago

[Evil Vito]

I really don't care about this match at all. Hopefully this is the last interpromotional match they do until the Royal Rumble.

[GD]

Acknowledging the fact that Randy Orton is taller than Brock Lesnar.

[GD]

I really don't care about this match at all. Hopefully this is the last interpromotional match they do until the Royal Rumble.

Survivor Series :?:

[Emperor Smeat]

Its weird hearing Orton talk about having a problem with lesnar not liking people Orton himself seems like he might be a bit of a dick to anyone who isn't his family and close friends.

From what I've read, he's mellowed out a lot since starting a family and got rid of a lot of his dickhead tendencies that hurt his rep from earlier WWE years.

[Droford]

Ortons taking the suplexes awkwardly

[Droford]

Lol "here comes the pain"

[GD]

Pay-per-view is the keyword, Mauro. Never forget.

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[GD]

Mama mia! :lol:

[Emperor Smeat]

Too bad Lesnar doesn't bust out different variants of the suplex when he starts a suplex massacre.

Could be a "1004 Moves list" like moment for him if he ever did.

[slik]

Holy shit Brock

[owenbrown]

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[slik]

Can Mauro and Graves call every WWE show please?

[Big John Dud]

everyone in here seems not overly impressed, unfortunate as this is only real way i get to follow wrestling through all your opinions, where does everyone see creative going from here?

[GD]

Love when Orton hits the RKO on the table and it never collapses :lol:

[owenbrown]

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[Poit]

Can Mauro and Graves call every WWE show please?

The dream team everyone wanted.

[KIRA]

I AM THE TABLE

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at that awkward throw to the table by Lesnar

:lol: Mauro's call of it.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[slik]

This is a good match so far

[Droford]

Ortons busted open

[GD]

Oh fuck! Did Orton blade?

[slik]

OMG

I hope Randy is ok

[Poit]

Daaaaaamn

[Dark One]

That is more blood in five seconds than WWE has had on shows in the past five years.

[Evil Vito]

Survivor Series :?:

I hope not. It's too early to do brand vs. brand shit.

[Droford]

And down goes the network..ugh

[KIRA]

EWW POURING OUT OF HIM

[Droford]

Incoming..
Goldberg

[Theo Dious]

This is retarded.

[Crimson]

Winner by tko lol

[GD]

GOLDBERG!

[Dark One]

I like the TKO finish. Works for Brock.

[Ruien]

RKO incoming.

[RawRocks]

Shane vs Brock? Seriously?

[Droford]

Or no goldberg.bleh

[Crimson]

Shane already pouring sweat

[Evil Vito]

Great PPV, shitty anti-climatic main event.

[Emperor Smeat]

Randy got busted open badly

[Theo Dious]

Shit ending.

[Ruien]

Lol at how silent the crowd is.

[Dark One]

Should have ended with Styles/Cena if you're going to end Brock/Orton like that, but otherwise a good show that they tried to do some major shaking up with.

[Poit]

Should have ended with Styles/Cena if you're going to end Brock/Orton like that, but otherwise a good show that they tried to do some major shaking up with.

I'm guessing that wasn't the finish that was planned for that match.

[VSG]

Lol two matches in a row having no real results. Something happened here that wasn't planned I guess.

[KIRA]

People really wanna see LESNAR V gOLDBERG AGAIN? WHY?

[slik]

WTF kind of ending is that!?

[GD]

Randy got busted open badly

I'm guessing that wasn't the finish that was planned for that match.

I wasn't paying attention when Orton started bleeding. Did he blade or bleed the old fashion way?

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty anti-climatic ending although Lesnar beating up Orton afterwards doesn't feel like it was a legit injury for the stoppage.

[KIRA]

I honestly feel like Vince is gonna line up everyone and go off about this Adderall/weed thing

[Emperor Smeat]

I wasn't paying attention when Orton started bleeding. Did he blade or bleed the old fashion way?

Old fashion way from the elbows to the head.

[GD]

Old fashion way from the elbows to the head.

Ugh! Seems quite unnecessary.

[BigCrippyZ]

Hard to tell whether that was legit or not. Either way, interesting but not necessarily a good ending either. Awkward is more like it.

[Poit]

:lol: @ reddit

"This isn't the first time i've been dissapointed with the ending of a mountain vs a viper"

[Mr. Nerfect]

What were the short results?

I know Brock beat Orton, Charlotte won her belt back and Balor won the Universal Title.

[owenbrown]

Vince McMahon right now

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[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm predicting Bayley steps up as the immediate challenger to Charlotte. Think we'll get Shane vs. Brock in the future?

[Nark Order]

What were the short results?

I know Brock beat Orton, Charlotte won her belt back and Balor won the Universal Title.

I think Enzo Amore called himself a certified G and a bonafied stud.

[Emperor Smeat]

What were the short results?

I know Brock beat Orton, Charlotte won her belt back and Balor won the Universal Title.

Jeri-KO, Miz, Styles, Club (by DQ), Ambrose, and Nikki/Bliss/Natty won their matches.

Rusev-Reigns was a no contest.

[Poit]

What were the short results?

I know Brock beat Orton, Charlotte won her belt back and Balor won the Universal Title.

Jey Uso pins Simon Gotch after a splash
Neville pins Bubba Ray after a Red Arrow
Sheamus wins via Brogue Kick
Jericho pins Enzo after a Codebreaker
Charlotte pins Sasha during the Bank Statement
Miz wins via Skull Crushing Finale
AJ Styles wins with the Phenomenal Forearm
Gallows & Anderson win via DQ (Interference)
Ambrose wins via Dirty Deeds
Balor wins via Coup de Grace
Rusev/Reigns doesn't happen
Brock Lesnar wins via TKO/referee decision

(My Tipsters notes)

[Sixx]

I'm predicting Bayley steps up as the immediate challenger to Charlotte. Think we'll get Shane vs. Brock in the future?

that would be even dumber than shane vs taker

so yes, we will.

[Simple Fan]

Network was shotty so I didn't even bother. Seems like an ok show. Styles winning is great. Don't agree with Balor winning the Universal Championship (ugly) though. Makes the NXT title mean more than the Universal Championship in my opinion. Also lack of the word heavyweight still bothers me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jey Uso pins Simon Gotch after a splash
Neville pins Bubba Ray after a Red Arrow
Sheamus wins via Brogue Kick
Jericho pins Enzo after a Codebreaker
Charlotte pins Sasha during the Bank Statement
Miz wins via Skull Crushing Finale
AJ Styles wins with the Phenomenal Forearm
Gallows & Anderson win via DQ (Interference)
Ambrose wins via Dirty Deeds
Balor wins via Coup de Grace
Rusev/Reigns doesn't happen
Brock Lesnar wins via TKO/referee decision

(My Tipsters notes)

Thanks guys. Man, I would have been close to getting a clean sweep. I'm surprised at how right some of those decisions are, but also disappointed by a fair bit, haha. Rusev & Reigns not happening? Babyfaces losing via DQ?

[BigCrippyZ]

Cena, Styles, Lesnar and Orton looked like legit badass main eventers. Everyone else looked like the fucking C-B show out there.

[VSG]

I think this pic confirms it was legit, elbow to the forehead cut that stopped the match. Sad, but I don't know why Brock went nuts afterwards then. NSFW: https://twitter.com/wadecroc/status/767559883336015872?s=09

[slik]

It seems like the point of the Orton/Lesnar match was to set up a future match between Lesnar/Shane. No desire to see that match, we already know Lesnar would win it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Network was shotty so I didn't even bother. Seems like an ok show. Styles winning is great. Don't agree with Balor winning the Universal Championship (ugly) though. Makes the NXT title mean more than the Universal Championship in my opinion. Also lack of the word heavyweight still bothers me.

They really want Balor to be the new Cena, don't they? That was apparent from the Beast in the East promos from last year. Good for Balor, but it does feel a bit...there. AJ Styles going over Cena is definitely a good thing. I'm also pro Jeri-KO winning their match, because I feel they have legs as a tag team.

[GD]

Yikes! That is not cool. Brock Lesnar :nono:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cena vs. Styles should be the World Title feud.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It feels like you really have to go with Ambrose vs. Styles for the World Title now.

[slik]

Oh god, thoughts of Lesnar vs Shane at WM33 now...becoming ill thinking of Shane's health

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brock vs. Shane at No Mercy or Survivor Series.

[GD]

It would be cool if they booked a non title rematch between Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose on SmackdownLive and have Ziggler go clean over Ambrose after battling for over 30-odd minutes. Have the rematch take place in 3 weeks at the Smackdown exclusive PPV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jon Stewart was in the corner of The New Day? Hmm. A foreshadowing? Stewart has been a long-term secret ally of Seth Rollins...if Stewart costs The New Day the belts...

[Simple Fan]

They really want Balor to be the new Cena, don't they? That was apparent from the Beast in the East promos from last year. Good for Balor, but it does feel a bit...there. AJ Styles going over Cena is definitely a good thing. I'm also pro Jeri-KO winning their match, because I feel they have legs as a tag team.

I like Balor I just don't think he is the right choice to be the first universal champion. Rollins is a former WWE WHC that never got beat other than a MitB cash in and would have been a great choice as first champion I believe. Would have started Balor off in the mid card and let him get over himself instead of being in the main event right away. Just doesn't feel right to me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It would be cool if they booked a non title rematch between Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose on SmackdownLive and have Ziggler go clean over Ambrose after battling for over 30-odd minutes. Have the rematch take place in 3 weeks at the Smackdown exclusive PPV.

I still think they're going to go with Ziggler being a target for Bray Wyatt because he can't get it done. Either that or Samoa Joe comes in to kill Ziggler.

[slik]

No point to Brock vs Shane

Everyone knows how that will end

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like Balor I just don't think he is the right choice to be the first universal champion. Rollins is a former WWE WHC that never got beat other than a MitB cash in and would have been a great choice as first champion I believe. Would have started Balor off in the mid card and let him get over himself instead of being in the main event right away. Just doesn't feel right to me.

Balor in the mid-card would just be so, so bland. I like that they have put him in the main event -- I just don't like the presentation. Also, I feel in my gut that Balor should be a heel.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[slik]

lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ziggler vs. Styles on SmackDown to decide the #1 Contender for Ambrose's belt. Styles wins that match cleanly and then Bray Wyatt attacks Ziggler after the match, with Rowan and Harper taking him to the back. "What will happen to Dolph?!?" Cena congratulates Styles elsewhere on the show, but Joe's music hits and he announces that he's signed on with SmackDown, and for some reason, he's drawn right to Cena.

[Droford]

No point to Brock vs Shane

Everyone knows how that will end

Shane couldn't beat Taker but he'll be the 1 to beat the 1 in 23-1

Because WWE is stupid like that

[Simple Fan]

Balor in the mid-card would just be so, so bland. I like that they have put him in the main event -- I just don't like the presentation. Also, I feel in my gut that Balor should be a heel.

He's been bland in the main event so I think the mid card would be better for him to start off.

[BigCrippyZ]

He's been bland in the main event so I think the mid card would be better for him to start off.

This. :yes:

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If y'all are mad at Brock now. Wait til he wins the title at the Rumble <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Summerslam?src=hash">#Summerslam</a></p>&mdash; Wayne Power (@PowerWayne) <a href="https://twitter.com/PowerWayne/status/767561966273658880">August 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Emperor Smeat]

They really want Balor to be the new Cena, don't they? That was apparent from the Beast in the East promos from last year. Good for Balor, but it does feel a bit...there. AJ Styles going over Cena is definitely a good thing. I'm also pro Jeri-KO winning their match, because I feel they have legs as a tag team.

According to the sheets, he's not set to become the next Cena since that belongs to Roman and maybe Rollins right behind him.

Him getting rushed to the spotlight is probably more of a mix of him being a huge merch seller in NXT (and in NJPW) and brands being weak in current top star power because of the split. Same reason why American Alphas became the de facto top team for Smackdown from the split.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, Shane calls out Brock Lesnar. Orton didn't want that match to stop, and he wonders if Paul Heyman paid off the referees since Brock isn't above bending the rules. And Becky Lynch sets her sights on proving herself against Nikki Bella.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's been bland in the main event so I think the mid card would be better for him to start off.

Nah, he'd end up disappearing like Sami Zayn and Neville.

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

They've clearly seen top babyface potential in Finn Balor for a long, long time. I said this last year and everyone thought I was crazy. The goody two shoes hype videos, the humble promos, the videos with everyone and their dog putting him over, the Demon stuff just begging for its own action figure.

Balor is going to be JAMMED and you can feel Vince's fingerprints on the "DEMON KING" stuff.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They want kids to buy that demon stuff.

[Mr. Nerfect]

First-ever Universal Champion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's Vince's boy now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Seth Rollins is in "make this kid" mode.

[Mr. Nerfect]

We'll get some sort of rematch between Rollins and Balor at Clash of Champions. It's possible they do the Club aligning with Rollins thing, but even more likely is Balor winning and proving what a great wrestler he is.

[slik]

I agree with NOID

[slik]

I also announce my intentions to Gay Marriage Finn Balor

[Simple Fan]

We'll get some sort of rematch between Rollins and Balor at Clash of Champions. It's possible they do the Club aligning with Rollins thing, but even more likely is Balor winning and proving what a great wrestler he is.

That'd be dumb as well to me. If they are not going to be with Balor they should just stay as a tag team.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Universal Title is All Red Everything as in it is the darkest of timelines.

[slik]

oh STD it is not

[Evil Vito]

Balor vs. Lesnar at the Rumble could be pretty fucking great. Maybe Lesnar won't be checked out for that match.

[slik]

slik's *OFFICIAL LIST* of everything that is amazing r/n in the WWE:


* Brand Split returned

* Less focus on evil authority figures

* New Talent in main-event scene

* Women's wrestling keeps getting better and better

* FINN BALOR

* Shinsuke Nakamura

* Mauro Ranallo

* Cory Graves

* return of jobber matches to elevate talent

* New Day

* Dean Ambrose

* BROCK LESNAR

* New camera angles and New sets

* Bray Wyatt

* Surprisingly, Braun Strowman

* AJ Styles

* John Cena

* Surprisingly, Eva Marie

* RUSEV

* Kevin Owens

* Naomi's entrance

* Bobby Roode

* The Revival

* Seth Rollins

* The Cruiserweight Classic upcoming division on RAW

[slik]

seems like a lot of people on the internet just complain no matter what tbh

[Emperor Smeat]

Balor vs. Lesnar at the Rumble could be pretty fucking great. Maybe Lesnar won't be checked out for that match.

As long as he doesn't have any unexpected UFC/MMA fights planned beforehand. Probably not going to be an issue for a couple of years though.

[slik]

In fact, if NXT Takeover ended with Samoa Joe bloodying Shinsuke into a near concussion most people on the internet would be praising it for being #Hard and #GroundBreaking

[Evil Vito]

I was kinda bored of Lesnar but since he's around so infrequently I didn't mind him main eventing shows here and there as a change of pace. But hearing what Ambrose had to say about him on Austin's podcast just really soured me on him and it made me look forward to Lesnar/Orton even less than I already was.

[slik]

I feel like it is Lesnar's world and we're all just paying $9.99 a month to be a part of it, even for a fleeting moment.

[Evil Vito]

What's weird about Lesnar is that he looked like he was having a blast when he won the title in 2014. He looked like he was having a blast at Royal Rumble 2015. Then he re-signs with WWE, goes on ESPN to discuss it and gushes about how he loves what he's doing. Goes on to have a killer WM31 main event with Reigns and is written off the next night, looking like a madman in the process.

But everything after that he's looked like he's been totally phoning it in.

[slik]

I agree with that, he always delivers though. That table spot where he threw Orton and Orton bleeding horrifically were strong visuals.

[slik]

In the end, I am glad they didn't wheel out Goldberg from whatever senior home they found Sting at. He's not a credible threat to #ChurchOfLesnar either (not that Shane is).

[#1-norm-fan]

There are like 3 or 4 legit stars in this entire company right now and none of them are in the world/UNIVERSAL title scenes. lol

[BigCrippyZ]

There are like 3 or 4 legit stars in this entire company right now and none of them are in the world/UNIVERSAL title scenes. lol

This is so fucking true.

[#1-norm-fan]

What's weird about Lesnar is that he looked like he was having a blast when he won the title in 2014. He looked like he was having a blast at Royal Rumble 2015. Then he re-signs with WWE, goes on ESPN to discuss it and gushes about how he loves what he's doing. Goes on to have a killer WM31 main event with Reigns and is written off the next night, looking like a madman in the process.

But everything after that he's looked like he's been totally phoning it in.

He should probably still be champion. It's ridiculous how they squandered his reign in favor of whatever the fuck they're doing now.

[#1-norm-fan]

They're still in that trap of hoping the titles can build stars and it's just not gonna happen. They've done their best over recent years to make sure the title(s) mean less and less. The way you build a star is by building their credibility and then eventually pulling the trigger by having them take the title from someone like Brock or Cena. Not by just throwing a title on them and praying.

People complained that Lesnar and Orton headlined but it was BY FAR the best choice to headline. It was the only "big fight" match on the card. Which is pretty sad considering they have two "world titles" now to get it right.

[weather vane]

WWE is good again. This PPV was unreal.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the trolling by Eva's personal announcer.

Give Nikki 2-3 weeks before she randomly turns back face.

Might be happening even sooner than I joked since she gave a face-like post-match interview. Also why do I have the feeling her ideas to make the division better is going to end up with things revolving around her again because of Total Bellas.

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[Triple A]

Weird PPV...

Started off s000 well with the first 3 matches but felt like everything after Cena/Styles was "not good" besides Rollins/Balor

Ambrose/Ziggler match felt like the worst match... nobody was into it at all... just boring... horrible feud... plus nobody expected Ziggler to win... and even if he won, feels like "nobody would have cared"

Lots of people were booing Jon Stewart for some reason... dumb older "guys with New York accents" who def love Donald Trump behind me kept shouting about how they wanted Gallows and Anderson to attack Stewart and "heckling" him and stuff... also said they "can't stand these guys" @ The New Day

Booking of the last 2 matches was really weird... esp Rusev thing... why do that at a PPV like SummerSlam...

Crowd was booing at the end of the show and chanting "NXT" as they left the arena

[Triple A]

Enzo Amore / Seven Nation Army chant in my head all night

[BigCrippyZ]

Legit felt like an ending to a WCW PPV with the last two matches basically being non-finishes and pretending to have a diva "no show". I get that's been her gimmick but if you're going to announce to the world that she's been suspended and everyone knows it, why would you even pretend like she's going to be there instead of just being honest about? Why on earth would you do two non-finishes back to back like that for the US title match and the main event?

That being said, Brock's finish won't hurt him or Orton any in terms of credibility and may actually help him and Orton but that's because of Brock's pre-existing credibility and not anything the WWE booking/writing has done for him to this point.

[Triple A]

Was the reveal of the new Universal Championship on the air? With Foley and Stephanie? Skimmed through the show on WWE Network and I don't think it's there? Did they cut it out...

edit: There's a video of the reveal on YouTube so I guess it aired... maybe I skipped past it but I don't think so... goes from the previous match to a hype package then the Ambrose match... don't feel like checking again

"edit 2:" nvm it's a "WWE.com exclusive"

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[slik]

yeah, we could hear the crowd booo it like crazy

[Triple A]

Crowd sounds so much more quiet on "TV"... feels like on TV they attempted to "quiet" the chants against the belt during the Ambrose/Ziggler match... crowd was going crazy with the chants, was really loud... like 6 different chants throughout the entire arena and loud boos any time it even came into the corner of the screen for a second... broke out into a "DELETE DELETE DELETE" chant also @Hollywood Hasney

When Balor won, it felt like he wasn't raising up the belt on purpose because the crowd would have intensely booed

[Triple A]

Cena/Styles match was "electric" though... mad good... made me "really like" AJ Styles finally... and Cena freaking great...

[Triple A]

Where were you sitting @SlickyTrickyDamon... what section #

[Triple A]

Also this crowd felt like 80x more annoying / "dumb" than the NXT crowd (which was amazing) I think...

Some guys next to us kept loudly "doing commentary" of every match for like the first 3 hours and wouldn't "let up" with the bit until some1 finally told them to shut the fuck up (in a nice way)

Feels like the crowd was filled with a lot of people like that........

[Heyman]

I have no idea what's going on in wrestling right now, but I think putting the title on Finn Balor right now is monumentally stupid. It doesn't do the company nor Balor any justice in thrusting him onto that role so soon.

[Tom Guycott]

I have no idea what's going on in wrestling right now, but I think putting the title on Finn Balor right now is monumentally stupid. It doesn't do the company nor Balor any justice in thrusting him onto that role so soon.

That first part of the statement perfectly highlights the rest of it.

A one of the guys who has been touted as a "champion everywhere he's been" (since that has recently become a thing in the last couple of years in WWE acknowledging places exist outside of it) and becoming one of if not the biggest attraction they've built up in NXT (and let's not kid ourselves, people know folks from NXT; let's stop pretending they're absolute nobodies even to you until they appear on the main roster), and in a world where all people have to do is pull out their phone and look on teh interwebz to look up anyone they are unfamiliar with if they are super-casual fans who don't know anything besides main-roster WWE... and you act like he was on some untelevised indy circut and just started yesterday.

They let him breathe and built him *relatively* well (as opposed to force-fed like a certain island boy) Yes, they could have stood to wait a few before the main roster shot, but I think this was not only to elevate our new Jeff Hardy (as in cash cow marketing potential) but to kinda put over the new strap, too. Not only can Finn handle it, they *do* need to breed a larger title contention threat pool that doesn't include Lesnar.

I bet if he were exactly as he is now, only he looked like THE RYBACK in "the look" department, you'd wonder why he wasn't hotshot'd into a main roster world championship position ages ago.

[broverboard]

Really not sure what to make of Summerslam, although I generally feel like that having watched a glorious NXT Takeover show the night before where things seem a lot less chaotic and forced. I also personally see Summerslam as a show where feuds come to an end but so much of last night had no resolution (Tag and US title, Orton/Lesnar w/Shane)

On paper, I thought the show would be great but the only matches that felt like they belonged on a PPV were Lesnar/Orton and Cena/AJ. To me, it's made the world and universal titles seem like mid-card titles and the US and IC title even lower. Ambrose (as much as I like him) vs Ziggler screams IC to me, with Orton and AJ being the two that should be fighting it out for the top strap.

Finn Balor is an odd case, it seems a lot of the fans that were against Roman being pushed so quickly are behind Finn's push even though he's been pushed harder and quicker. Again to me Rollins/Balor didn't have the big match feel to it.

[Fignuts]

Enzo and Cass vs JeriKO

Good little opening match. Owens and Jericho are an awesome team. Feel like they should be the ones to dethrone New Day.

Charlotte vs Sasha

Great match, despite Charlotte being sloppy in a couple spots. Sucks that Sasha had to give it up because of the likely suspension.

Miz vs Crews

Good match. Probably the best Crews has looked since he has come up. Right guy won. Crews has a lot of developing to do in terms of his character before he's ready for a title win over one of the best heels in the company.

Styles vs Cena

Match of the night, although that shouldn't surprise given the participants. Might be the new frontrunner for match of the year even. Both busting out moves we haven't seen. Sweet submission exchange. Cena even pulled off a fantastic code red. Usually it looks slow and too coreographed, but this time, he hit it like rey fucking mysterio. And holy shit, the kickout from the avalanche AA. I'm unaware of anyone ever doing that, and Cena sold the shock brilliantly. Finish of the clash right into the forearm was equally brilliant.

New Day vs The Club

Anderson and Gallows have been pretty bland in ring since coming here, and it sucks, because I've seen much better from both of them. Dunno why they haven't "brought it" yet. But yeah, this was still okay until the ending. The fuck was that? When have you ever heard of a face team getting themselves disqualified and keeping the belts? Baffling. Ending bombed as hard as Jon Stewart's into.

Ambrose vs Ziggler

Jesus this sucked ass. I was really looking forward to this. I really like both guys, and they did such an awesome job building it, that I thought Dolph could win. The match itself was shit. The pacing and flow was completely off, and everything they did looked clumsy and awkward. I'm also going to take this oppurtunity to say I've never liked how Ambrose doesn't sell the inital strike he receives after he hits the rebound lariat. But now the move is even worse because he's progressively gotten slower in executing it. So tonight, Dolph hits him, then stands there like an idiot watching him do it, then waits for the clothesline. It looked terrible. Worst of all, Dolph got pinned clean. What was the point of building up dolph if you were going to reduce him to enhancement talent in the match. After all the things Ambrose said about him during the build, pinning him clean makes Dolph look like a bitch, and even less credible than before he won the #1 contendership. Just rotten all the way through.

6 women tag match

Good little filler match. Feel like Naomi is vastly unerappreciated. She is money in the ring, with a unique and cool moveset, and with her new entrance, a unique identity. Would really like to see her and Becky mix it up.

Balor vs Rollins

Wrong guy won. Rollins is better in every aspect than Balor. Also, lemme ask you something. New guy with bland personality and sub par mic ability gets hot shotted to the title. Am I talking about Reigns or Balor? "Oh but Balor is awesome in the ring!" Can't agree with that. His matches are good, and sometimes, with the right person, very good. But they're not spectacular enough to make up for his faults. At least not on the main roster where the entertainment aspect is king. Maybe it's because his entire moveset consists of moves that were made popular over a decade ago by wrestlers I like more than him, but Balor's work really doesn't impress me as much as it has others. And what is the point of the demon king shit? Like, it looks badass, I'll give you that, but they're all talking about how Balor goes into the darkest depths of himself when he brings the demon out....then he proceeds to wrestle and act exactly as he does when he's not wearing it? What? Anyway, with the rant over, it was a good entertaining match, but Rollins really makes a better champ than balor. Speaking of Rollins, if he's not going to bring back the curb stomp, that fisherman's buster into small package should be his finisher, cause that move is fucking sick.

Rusev vs Reigns

I actually really liked this. I love the Roman Reigns that just loses control and rampages. The feud had been mostly slapstick up til now, when it could much more brutal and intense with these two. This will make things a lot more personal, and give it more natural, real feeling heat. If they follow up right, they could give this feud a real clashing of titans feel. This is all providing rusev gets revenge and fucks reigns up, or else he's just going to look like a pushover and all the heat is going to die.

Orton vs Lesnar

Standard Lesnar match til the finish. Gonna have to wait for more info to find out what happened. If that was actually the planned finish then that's utter garbage, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The crowd booing the Universal Championship. :lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

It doesn't look very creative, does it?

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should have gone all IWGP on that shit.

[Fignuts]

I was hoping for something big eagle related.

Why does 2016 WWE hate big eagles?

[Fignuts]

Dolph should just ask for his release and go to New Japan.

[Sixx]

man, i'm just rewatching the main event on youtube, think brock lesnar got used to ufc too much, he's legit elbowing orton like he wants to kill him

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Crowd chanting "DELETE" at the Universal Championship made this WWEPPVOTY

[Evil Vito]

It's going to be mighty awkward when each brand's top champion gets drafted to the other show next year and all of the blue brand wrestlers are left to fight over the all-red Universal Championship.

[slik]

When Balor won, it felt like he wasn't raising up the belt on purpose because the crowd would have intensely booed

His shoulder might have gotten injured, re: Finn Balor injury thread

[#1-norm-fan]

Crowd chanting "DELETE" at the Universal Championship made this WWEPPVOTY

HAH! I need to see this.

[Innovator]

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Someone was backstage last night

[VSG]

Okada in NXT?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Okada in NXT?

He was backstage visiting last Summerslam too. He was just in the area after the ROH show.

[VSG]

Yeah but that was when ROH was worth something, and I suppose TNA too. Time will tell.

[Blonde Moment]

Tna hasn't been worth much for some time

[#BROKEN Hasney]

And Okada would never go to TNA again after the last time.

[Maluco]

Enzo and Cass vs JeriKO

Good little opening match. Owens and Jericho are an awesome team. Feel like they should be the ones to dethrone New Day.

Charlotte vs Sasha

Great match, despite Charlotte being sloppy in a couple spots. Sucks that Sasha had to give it up because of the likely suspension.

Miz vs Crews

Good match. Probably the best Crews has looked since he has come up. Right guy won. Crews has a lot of developing to do in terms of his character before he's ready for a title win over one of the best heels in the company.

Styles vs Cena

Match of the night, although that shouldn't surprise given the participants. Might be the new frontrunner for match of the year even. Both busting out moves we haven't seen. Sweet submission exchange. Cena even pulled off a fantastic code red. Usually it looks slow and too coreographed, but this time, he hit it like rey fucking mysterio. And holy shit, the kickout from the avalanche AA. I'm unaware of anyone ever doing that, and Cena sold the shock brilliantly. Finish of the clash right into the forearm was equally brilliant.

New Day vs The Club

Anderson and Gallows have been pretty bland in ring since coming here, and it sucks, because I've seen much better from both of them. Dunno why they haven't "brought it" yet. But yeah, this was still okay until the ending. The fuck was that? When have you ever heard of a face team getting themselves disqualified and keeping the belts? Baffling. Ending bombed as hard as Jon Stewart's into.

Ambrose vs Ziggler

Jesus this sucked ass. I was really looking forward to this. I really like both guys, and they did such an awesome job building it, that I thought Dolph could win. The match itself was shit. The pacing and flow was completely off, and everything they did looked clumsy and awkward. I'm also going to take this oppurtunity to say I've never liked how Ambrose doesn't sell the inital strike he receives after he hits the rebound lariat. But now the move is even worse because he's progressively gotten slower in executing it. So tonight, Dolph hits him, then stands there like an idiot watching him do it, then waits for the clothesline. It looked terrible. Worst of all, Dolph got pinned clean. What was the point of building up dolph if you were going to reduce him to enhancement talent in the match. After all the things Ambrose said about him during the build, pinning him clean makes Dolph look like a bitch, and even less credible than before he won the #1 contendership. Just rotten all the way through.

6 women tag match

Good little filler match. Feel like Naomi is vastly unerappreciated. She is money in the ring, with a unique and cool moveset, and with her new entrance, a unique identity. Would really like to see her and Becky mix it up.

Balor vs Rollins

Wrong guy won. Rollins is better in every aspect than Balor. Also, lemme ask you something. New guy with bland personality and sub par mic ability gets hot shotted to the title. Am I talking about Reigns or Balor? "Oh but Balor is awesome in the ring!" Can't agree with that. His matches are good, and sometimes, with the right person, very good. But they're not spectacular enough to make up for his faults. At least not on the main roster where the entertainment aspect is king. Maybe it's because his entire moveset consists of moves that were made popular over a decade ago by wrestlers I like more than him, but Balor's work really doesn't impress me as much as it has others. And what is the point of the demon king shit? Like, it looks badass, I'll give you that, but they're all talking about how Balor goes into the darkest depths of himself when he brings the demon out....then he proceeds to wrestle and act exactly as he does when he's not wearing it? What? Anyway, with the rant over, it was a good entertaining match, but Rollins really makes a better champ than balor. Speaking of Rollins, if he's not going to bring back the curb stomp, that fisherman's buster into small package should be his finisher, cause that move is fucking sick.

Rusev vs Reigns

I actually really liked this. I love the Roman Reigns that just loses control and rampages. The feud had been mostly slapstick up til now, when it could much more brutal and intense with these two. This will make things a lot more personal, and give it more natural, real feeling heat. If they follow up right, they could give this feud a real clashing of titans feel. This is all providing rusev gets revenge and fucks reigns up, or else he's just going to look like a pushover and all the heat is going to die.

Orton vs Lesnar

Standard Lesnar match til the finish. Gonna have to wait for more info to find out what happened. If that was actually the planned finish then that's utter garbage, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't.


Was going to write my thoughts, but this is it basically word for word, especially on Balor's weaknesses, AJ/Cena, how bad the Dolph thing was and 1000x with Naomi!

Only thing I would argue is that the Lesnar finish was fine, keeps him looking like a crazy monster, but it shouldn't have finished the night. It had to have been planned, but maybe it just went too far blood wise, ala Eddie Guerrero.

Really think Smackdown has big problems now. Not much they are doing is interesting, not many guys are over and they are relying on a heel AJ to keep things heated with Ambrose, who isn't WWE champ material imo. They need call ups and they need them now.

[Innovator]

And Okada would never go to TNA again after the last time.

Okato

[Rammsteinmad]

Fignuts' comments pretty much sum it up, although, as a whole, I thought this was a great PPV. Did seem quite long-winded at times, especially for anyone who watched the pre-show, but overall, this is a step in the right direction for WWE.

The show had a "huge" feel to it, with a sold-out crowd, a massive set and some stellar match-ups, I hope this demonstrates to WWE that they don't need Triple H, The Undertaker and The Rock etc for Wrestlemania. Cena, Orton, Lesnar and Jericho are perfect as the "old timers" who are still in prominent positions, otherwise, the rest of the roster really shined last night, and with the right match-ups and build, Wrestlemania 33 could be an awesome event if they learn from the last few years.

[Rammsteinmad]

However, whether it was the planned finish or not, those elbows from Lesnar were brutal and dangerous. I knew straight away we'd see blood from them, and watching it just made me think "for fucks sake this is who the WWE are gonna keep feeding their guys to". Just completely unnecessary.

[Rammsteinmad]

Just rewatched it and kept pausing it, obviously was a work, the second elbow looked super stiff, still unnecessary, imo, but obviously this will lead to a rematch, probably at Wrestlemania, since there isn't really anyone else on Lesnar's level.

Poor Orton, can't imagine what it'd be like to be told the end of you match will be that Lesnar is gonna beat the shit out of you. :(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/3FUOnnt.png

[Maluco]

Was it wise, when concussion and brain injuries are under such scrutiny, to end a massive PPV with an ending that physical?

That's the first thing I thought of

[BigCrippyZ]

Honestly, I have no problem if it was a work or shoot. If it was a work though, you can't have two matches back to back close the show with what were essentially non-finishes. Put Reigns v. Rusev on earlier if you're going to finish both matches like that.

[Jordan]

It was an incredible way to finish the show

[DAMN iNATOR]

Universal Title is All Red Everything as in it is the darkest of timelines.

oh STD it is not

He's right, actually. Was my first thought too when I saw the design. Also no way in HELL is Bálor ready for the responsibility and pressures of being a world champion in WWE.