Westworld

[slik]

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[Triple A]

Yeah looks cool...

[Fignuts]

Badass. Need to reup hbo now for this.

[Destor]

They had me aty Sci-Fi western

[Frank Drebin]

Wild wild west
Jim west
Desperado
Ruff ryda
No ya don't want nada

[ClockShot]

I remember watching the movie in Sci-Fi class in high school and thought it was a cool flick.

Cancelled my HBO when Thrones ended. Might grab this when it comes to DVD if the reviews are good.

[Sixx]

i like the fact that more bigass stars decide to star in tv shows. cool fact, definetely gonna check this out, huge hopkins mark.

[Funky Fly is back]

I will watch it

[Triple A]

Really freaking sweet...

Really glad that it's "actually good"

Mad good

Casting of all the actors is also amazing... lots of really weird looking ppl... love it

[slik]

need 2 watch this...might watch it 2morrow instead of RAW

[Triple A]

s0 good

acting was freaking amazing too

pumped

[slik]

watching it now actually instead...reviews are amazing for this

[slik]

just finished, really really good

[RP]

Seems interesting. Wish i knew what the fuck was going on.

[Destor]

Already hooked. Reminds me of Dollhouse.

[Emperor Smeat]

First episode was really good overall.

Still think its a bit crazy HBO spent around $100 million for the first season. Think the last time they spent that much money was with Rome and it ended a lot sooner than HBO wanted due to costs.

[Frank Drebin]

Westworld was cool. Just watched it. Knew it would be good. Gonna give it a few episodes before I give it any sort of seal of aporoval. Let's see how they go about things. Could just turn into a rehash of usual tropes like "is AI human?" Or "Do they have real feelings?" But I think this is going somewhere else. The Ed Harris character is probably gonna make a face turn later on.

Wondering how they clean up and reset every day or week or month or however long a session goes on for. I want to know more about the logistics of getting this operation to run and the history of it and where it fits into the world it exists in.

[Triple A]

I read some theory (I think on Reddit) that the "unimportant character" robots reset every night and just repeat their script (like Delores was seemingly doing each day) until a human interacts with them, then I guess they react or whatever... but that raises more questions/issues so idk

Also wondering how they stop humans from accidentally murdering other humans via stabbing them or bludgeoning them to death or something (assuming that the guns are "fake") or raping them

[Triple A]

wonder if the movie spoils anything about the show. kinda wanna watch it

[Lock Jaw]

Watched this..... thought it was good..... can definitely see the comparisons to Dollhouse....

Wonder what Ed Harris character is up to..... deeper levels of the game.... seems like maybe some super secret mission quests put there by Anthony Hopkins or something.......

.hack the game to find super secrets in the code.......

[Blue Demon]

DVRd it but haven't watched it. I'm a fan of both Jonah Nolan, and of Michael Crichton...so I have some decent hope for this. Looks good based on the trailer.

[Frank Drebin]

Could Ed Harris be a Slugworth type? Like hes there representing whatever competition Westworld has or the government who wants to use the tech for war? He might even have help from one of the other executives which is why hes gone undetected. Then again, he said he'd been there for 30 years so you'd think he wouldn't have been there that long.....

[Destor]

Could Ed Harris be a Slugworth type? Like hes there representing whatever competition Westworld has or the government who wants to use the tech for war? He might even have help from one of the other executives which is why hes gone undetected. Then again, he said he'd been there for 30 years so you'd think he wouldn't have been there that long.....
He's been coming there for there for 30 years, not has been there for 30 years straight...

[Triple A]

This scene was cool

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[Triple A]

The second episode has been released early by HBO... now available

[Destor]

The second episode has been released early by HBO... now available
Yeah its the 1st thing im doing when I get home

[Frank Drebin]

oh shit....didn't know....gonna watch it right meaw.

[Ruien]

First episode was really good overall.

Still think its a bit crazy HBO spent around $100 million for the first season. Think the last time they spent that much money was with Rome and it ended a lot sooner than HBO wanted due to costs.

Rome was an amazing show too.

[Destor]

Dunno where any of the thread lines are going on this show and thats fine by me. The world is fascinating.

[Fignuts]

Carnivale got cancelled because of costs too. Probably my favorite show that went unresolved. Still upsrt about that one. Hope this foesn't end up in the same boat.

[Triple A]

Feels like they are banking on this being "the next Game of Thrones" for them so hopefully should be committed to it

Sucks that Vinyl got canceled :-(

[Destor]

Feels like they are banking on this being "the next Game of Thrones" for them so hopefully should be committed to it

Sucks that Vinyl got canceled :-(

:rant:

[Triple A]

McPoyle

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yG8DK1rYIck/TjnGavkJo4I/AAAAAAAAAAY/ZgV0GxpOZJU/s1600/McPoyles.jpg

[Triple A]

Blonde host lady who introduced McPoyle to all the stuff is smokin' hot.....

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Elon Musk was married to her I guess

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/zBkfrJ6TLMUbXfHhxJMueA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/usmagazine.com/5c92ebffe25ceb4c433b62e62eed4f68

[Triple A]

cool website

https://discoverwestworld.com/

"terms of service" for visiting westworld that explains some of the "rules" and "absolves them of liability" if humans get hurt and stuff

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[Outsider]

Best first episode of something I've seen for a long time.

Like the implied relation to the original movie as well.

Really hope this is going to be as good as it looks like it could be. Guess time will tell.

[Blue Demon]

I watched both episodes....really liking it so far, I haven't seen the original movie...maybe I should go back and watch it.

[RP]

Ya its really good. I'm starting to understand a bit more.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

This show is boss. Big fan so far.

[Lock Jaw]

Finally watched the second episode..... ha ha at McPoyle being on..... still really enjoying it.... "look forward" to when everything just goes way off the rails......

[Lock Jaw]

Wonder if we will ever see the world outside of the headquarters there...... That one braud getting loose and running out made me think that maybe all the robots will uprise and escape into the real world and kill all humans...... made me anxious...........

[Destor]

Ep 3 :eek:

Anyone know how many eps this has? Cause id like 1000 or so

[Emperor Smeat]

10 episodes for this season.

[Fignuts]

Episode 3 is good. Hopkins has been the kind old grandpa, up til now. Showing signs of a heel turn tho. Hope they don't go with the obvious route of revealing hopkins killed his partner. Seems cliche. I don't think they will tho. Show seems way more intelligent than that.

[Lock Jaw]

Just watched episode 3......

Think Arnold somehow merged his consciousness into the game and is now Fing things up........ Think Hopkins isn't a full on heel, but def has his own concepts of what the game is and what it should be, and F anybody who thinks different......

Thought the female bounty hunter chick was a pretty hot braud......

[Frank Drebin]

She was naked a bunch on the last season of Shameless. Has a crazy Eastern European name I can't remember. Bojack Horjmen or something.

And yeah, that was my first thought too about Hey Arnold.

[Blue Demon]

So far it's been getting steadily better. We're really leading to something big I think.

[Triple A]

Dolores's narrative / "loop"

http://delosincorporated.com/images/intra/ww_web_guesthack_delores_v03_he.gif

http://delosincorporated.com/images/intra/ww_web_guesthack_delores_v03_he.gif

[Frank Drebin]

Really liked this episode. Good pace. Intrigued. Hope we get some real answers at seasons end and that they don't try to answer each question with two more questions and we go down the x files never ending rabbit hole of conspiracy.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, another good episode.....

Sounds like whatever quest Ed Harris is on was a super secret quest designed by Arnold, perhaps one that results in the hosts being able to act freely/kill guests.

Felix Leiter mentioned the maze when he was talking to Delores at the beginning of the episode...... could he know more than he lets on? I think so......

[Triple A]

Episode was freaking sweet... didn't "love" episode 3 so was glad this one went back to being "freaking sweet"...

Feels like they keep dropping a bunch of hints that Bernard and other employees are robots and stuff but idk if it's just to "throw you off"

[Triple A]

http://www.delosincorporated.com/images/intra/host_intake_protocol.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CkpWoy1.jpg

[Frank Drebin]

Maybe the best ep so far. Like I've been saying though, they need to have a payoff - any payoff - at the end of all this intrigue and mystery. Otherwise this is all for nought if they "Mass Effect 3" this.

[Lock Jaw]

No idea what that means, but yeah, another good episode.

Show seems "jam packed".....

Feel like Delores will kill all humans eventually........

[RP]

I dont knonw whats going on.

[Frank Drebin]

@lock Jaw

Could also call it Lost or X-Files. Just repeating what I've been saying about creating so many questions but giving no answers.

I like where this is going but if we get a cliffhanger or no real answers about what the hell is going on by the end of the season I'm not coming back for season 2.

Things that need to be answered at this point include: Who is the man in black and what are his motives? What's this whole deal with Arnold? The maze? What is Ford's plan?

All of these can certainly be answered easily enough in the last 5 episodes, but writers have this terrible tendency to just keep going in an attempt to keep the audience hooked/guessing without having an endgame when it comes to Sci fi.

[Destor]

@lock Jaw

Could also call it Lost or X-Files. Just repeating what I've been saying about creating so many questions but giving no answers.

I like where this is going but if we get a cliffhanger or no real answers about what the hell is going on by the end of the season I'm not coming back for season 2.

Things that need to be answered at this point include: Who is the man in black and what are his motives? What's this whole deal with Arnold? The maze? What is Ford's plan?

All of these can certainly be answered easily enough in the last 5 episodes, but writers have this terrible tendency to just keep going in an attempt to keep the audience hooked/guessing without having an endgame when it comes to Sci fi.
Some of those need answers..all though?

[Frank Drebin]

I think so. Why not? Which one of those could be drawn out over multiple seasons? You don't need a resolution for Ford or MIB'S plans, whatever they are, but you need to know what they're trying to accomplish and why.

[Frank Drebin]

Also, I'm going to just assume this is all happening at the same time and we aren't looking at some of the same characters in multiple timelines until said otherwise.

[Lock Jaw]

Episode seemed "kind of dumb" tonight, in my opinion..............

Like, why isn't anyone questioning the lowly grunt as to why he is giving a tour of the building to a host......

Also seemed "anti-climactic" in a way...... like they got tired of a "slow build" and decided to just make that one braud "understand everything" and "force changes" to her programming.....


Dunno.........

[Fignuts]

People could have thought he was just testing her, or taking her to another "department".

I thought it wad a good episode. Plus fuck yeah @ fake plastic trees

[Triple A]

I also didn't like a lot of this episode I think... I didn't like the whole thing with that woman who works there trying to "find out what's going on" or whatever... Felt like I was watching some "corny ass movie" like "Jurassic World" or something... Most of the episode kinda seemed "off" tbh... maybe cause of the way it was directed

[Lock Jaw]

People could have thought he was just testing her, or taking her to another "department".

Pretty sure his job is to just patch up wounds. Not supposed to wake up the hosts at all.

[Lock Jaw]

Like, he was hiding that bird because he isn't supposed to be doing anything besides patch the hosts up, but he aspired to more........ but now he is doing all this stuff out in the open and just mumbling "please, I could be fired"..... but apparently no one pays attention or asks questions.....

[Frank Drebin]

Kinda agree with you, LJ, I chose to let it go since we don't know how the whole place works and what is considered normal or unusual in a workplace like that.

Trips, I was waiting for something to happen to her the whole time too. As soon as she was on the elevator by herself you could see where it was headed. Corny, but whatever I guess.

[Frank Drebin]

I had a chance to watch both Westworld and Future world this weekend. One theory that might be debunked based on that...

In the movies, the hosts can't deal with a high humidity environment. Seemed like there was water everywhere "downstairs" so if those stay true, Bernard isn't a host. Kind of a stretch, but wanted to throw it out there.

[Destor]

Good spin on who the terminator would be. THis season has mirrored the film heavily so it was coming.

Love they went full dollhouse on this ep.

[Destor]

I had a chance to watch both Westworld and Future world this weekend. One theory that might be debunked based on that...

In the movies, the hosts can't deal with large amounts of water or a high humidity environment. Seemed like there was water everywhere "downstairs" so if those stay true, Bernard isn't a host. Kind of a stretch, but wantes to throw it out there.

Tech has advanced to the point i dont think those limitations would still be a factor

[Frank Drebin]

But we don't know if this exists in the same universe as the movies, right? I know they've dropped hints but nothing conclusive I think.

[Lock Jaw]

Kinda agree with you, LJ, I chose to let it go since we don't know how the whole place works and what is considered normal or unusual in a workplace like that.

Yeah, I guess...... might be an "environment" where everybody just "minds their own business" and "doesn't ask questions"..... unless you are one of the "people in charge"...... so if he had run into someone with any sort of "power", he would have been "done", but since the only people who saw him were "minions", they didn't care.........

[Destor]

But we don't know if this exists in the same universe as the movies, right? I know they've dropped hints but nothing conclusive I think.

Show runners have said the films are non cannon but they borrow from them

[Lock Jaw]

Good episode.....

Anthony Hopkins full on heel mode now

[Destor]

I think the shows biggest hurdle is the stakes are increadibly low.

[Triple A]

Cool ep

Feels like they keep dropping a bunch of hints that Bernard and other employees are robots and stuff but idk if it's just to "throw you off"

Bernard thing was cool even though I expected it I guess due to them dropping like 80 lil hints throughout the series

That scene was sweet. Felt like an episode of Tales From the Crypt or something

[Triple A]

I think the shows biggest hurdle is the stakes are increadibly low.

What do you mean?

[Lock Jaw]

Probably that the hosts "die all the time", so it loses some "impact"......

[Lock Jaw]

Also that William was never in any real danger from being chased and shot at by machine gun

[Innovator]

Also that William was never in any real danger from being chased and shot at by machine gun

But now we're seeing hosts being able to target humans

[Destor]

What do you mean?
We only have two or three people we care about now. Two of them them arent human so death has little meaning. Hard to create tension why the stakes arew that low.


And beyond that Dolloris' "mission" we know so little about even her failing doesnt carry weight.


I love the show and am beyond hooked but these are issues dramatically.

[Triple A]

probable/possible theories:

Read some thing speculating that Ford will probably create a host version of Theresa to hide the fact that he had her murdered

Which also "begs the question" of how many other employees met a similar fate for trying to meddle with Ford's plans,,,

Also a theory about Bernard actually being a host version of Arnold, who was murdered by Ford? Idk if that makes sense though, for a robot to have a different name and personality but look exactly like Arnold? Has no one else ever seen the real Arnold?

I think that theory is based mostly on when Ford showed Bernard this photo and said that it was a photo of Arnold, but the 2 people in the photo are Ford and his father. Looks like there is a space for a 3rd person that Bernard can't "see" which is y people think that Bernard couldn't see "himself" / Arnold.

https://i.imgur.com/vX3YXHo.jpg

[Destor]

Thats what I think the machine was doing in that scene 100%

[Innovator]

Yeah that way she can say whatever needs to be said to get the board off of him, then she can kill herself and absolve him of murder

[Emperor Smeat]

HBO recently ordered a new season to be made and rumored to be arriving in 2018.

Looks like HBO's gamble hoping this would be their big replacement for Game of Thrones ended up paying off since the weekly viewer average is higher than what GoT did for its first season. Also doing a lot better than True Detective did for its first season.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/westworld-renewed-for-mysterious-and-exciting-seas/1100-6445408/

[Lock Jaw]

Thats what I think the machine was doing in that scene 100%

Agreed.

[Destor]

HBO recently ordered a new season to be made and rumored to be arriving in 2018.

Looks like HBO's gamble hoping this would be their big replacement for Game of Thrones ended up paying off since the weekly viewer average is higher than what GoT did for its first season. Also doing a lot better than True Detective did for its first season.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/westworld-renewed-for-mysterious-and-exciting-seas/1100-6445408/

Kind of bad data though isnt it? West world is able to have higher veiwership due to GoT raises the number of subscribers. Their retention rate with be interesting.

[Emperor Smeat]

Somewhat. By default it needed to be a huge success because of the bigger sub base and huge sums of money HBO spent for the show.

If it was marginally better, HBO probably would have been frustrated because of the money spent and if it was worse, they'd be in a bigger panic since they'd have nothing big ready to replace GoT.

Since the show is a big hit, HBO probably sees enough in their data to believe any subs drops after GoT's ends is either going to be small or non-existent with what Westworld can bring to the network.

[Blue Demon]

probable/possible theories:

Read some thing speculating that Ford will probably create a host version of Theresa to hide the fact that he had her murdered

Which also "begs the question" of how many other employees met a similar fate for trying to meddle with Ford's plans,,,

Also a theory about Bernard actually being a host version of Arnold, who was murdered by Ford? Idk if that makes sense though, for a robot to have a different name and personality but look exactly like Arnold? Has no one else ever seen the real Arnold?

I think that theory is based mostly on when Ford showed Bernard this photo and said that it was a photo of Arnold, but the 2 people in the photo are Ford and his father. Looks like there is a space for a 3rd person that Bernard can't "see" which is y people think that Bernard couldn't see "himself" / Arnold.

https://i.imgur.com/vX3YXHo.jpg

Maybe Bernard was a real person and the government are stake holders looking into transferring consciousness into robots and the "theme park" is a way to pay for it.

[Lock Jaw]

"Freaking sweet" episode tonight......

[Destor]

One to go right?

[Lock Jaw]

Two to go

[Destor]

Yesssss

[Triple A]

Blonde host lady who introduced McPoyle to all the stuff is smokin' hot.....

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/5dzy4dI.png" width="380" height="auto">

Elon Musk was married to her I guess

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/zBkfrJ6TLMUbXfHhxJMueA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/usmagazine.com/5c92ebffe25ceb4c433b62e62eed4f68

Good to see her return as new character

[Triple A]

Also glad Dolores's "dad" is BACK

[Triple A]

damn... theory / possible spoiler (maybe don't read):

Reddit comments speculating that the Man in Black is William (McPoyle) 30 years later. https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/5e1ta1/westworld_1x08_trace_decay_postepisode_discussion/da911qg/

Cause he said "I though they would've retired you" to that lady, who is the one that checked in McPoyle.

"30 years of marriage"
"I thought they would've retired you"

Also:

I think it was confirmed when he says "so I came back because this place has a way of bringing out your true self." That is what he told Dolores on the train in the last episode

Feel like I wish I hadn't read this... should just try to watch the show without spoiling it 4 myself!

[Triple A]

Also I watched the original movie and it was kinda shitty. Felt incredibly rushed and simple and basic. The show is nothing like the movie.

[Destor]

Also I watched the original movie and it was kinda shitty. Felt incredibly rushed and simple and basic. The show is nothing like the movie.

If you watch it with the fact that it predates terminator in mind it can be appreciated

[Lock Jaw]

I have adopted this as a theory:

MiB is the "CEO" of the company that William and Logan work for.....

[Innovator]

One working theory is that the MiB is the human from the original series

[Lock Jaw]

Would hate that, I think..... don't want it to be a Jurassic Park sequel situation where it is like "you didn't learn from the first disaster you had?"

[Lock Jaw]

William has snapped and is in the zone

[Destor]

Been bothering me all season: how are the guests safe guarded from melee attacks? Arrows?

I dont want to over think the show but it seems like a glaring issue.

[Triple A]

"Chilling" episode... very good. Even though I was expecting all the "reveals" via reading Reddit theories, it was still freaking sweet as hell. Kinda even made it better.

[Triple A]

damn... theory / possible spoiler (maybe don't read):

Reddit comments speculating that the Man in Black is William (McPoyle) 30 years later. https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/comments/5e1ta1/westworld_1x08_trace_decay_postepisode_discussion/da911qg/

Cause he said "I though they would've retired you" to that lady, who is the one that checked in McPoyle.

"30 years of marriage"
"I thought they would've retired you"

Also:

I think it was confirmed when he says "so I came back because this place has a way of bringing out your true self." That is what he told Dolores on the train in the last episode

Feel like I wish I hadn't read this... should just try to watch the show without spoiling it 4 myself!

Feels like this theory was also kinda furthered tonight. Or at least definitely that the William storyline is in the past. Early in the season, the "Man in Black" talked about how he opened up the robots in the past and they were all mechanical instead of blood and guts like the modern ones. Dolores was v mechanical when she got stabbed by Logan which indicates it was in the past, back when she was an "old model."

Also there was some other thing about the logos used. When William first comes to Westworld, they are using the "old logo" in the room where he gets his introduction.

http://i.imgur.com/WbPb6gi.jpg

[Frank Drebin]

Pretty sure they just about confirmed it with Dolores this week.

[Lock Jaw]

Feel like that would be the stupidest thing ever and I don't see it coming to pass at all.

[Triple A]

Why would it be the stupidest thing ever

And seems like 99% confirmed tbh

[Lock Jaw]

Doesn't seem confirmed at all to me.... seems like "grasping at straws"......

[XL]

Dunno LJ, seems pretty nailed on to me.

[Triple A]

Other theory about "Wyatt" that seems to be basically confirmed...

"Wyatt" is probably Dolores.

When Teddy keeps having flashbacks to the Wyatt massacre, that is the same place where Dolores also had flashbacks to herself with a gun, with lots of people being shot.

Also it was revealed she killed Arnold, so probably went on a "killing rampage"

Teddy is looking for Wyatt and leading the man in black to "Wyatt"... Is told he will find Wyatt at the church, and when he gets there, he finds Dolores

etc.

[RP]

MIND BLOWN

[Destor]

Other theory about "Wyatt" that seems to be basically confirmed...

"Wyatt" is probably Dolores.

When Teddy keeps having flashbacks to the Wyatt massacre, that is the same place where Dolores also had flashbacks to herself with a gun, with lots of people being shot.

Also it was revealed she killed Arnold, so probably went on a "killing rampage"

Teddy is looking for Wyatt and leading the man in black to "Wyatt"... Is told he will find Wyatt at the church, and when he gets there, he finds Dolores

etc.Nah doesnt work. Dolores was at her farm when the man in black showed back up. Also the wardrobe contradictions and such.

[Triple A]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Season finale was announced to be 90 minutes long. Unlike other episodes, a different director was in charge of the finale.

Jonathan Nolan, the brother of Inception and The Dark Knight director Christopher Nolan, directed the Westworld Season 1 finale; he also did the pilot.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/westworld-season-1-finale-is-90-minutes-long-will-/1100-6445773/

[Triple A]

Jonathan Nolan is also the co-creator of the show.

[Frank Drebin]

Nah doesnt work. Dolores was at her farm when the man in black showed back up. Also the wardrobe contradictions and such.

I think we are being led to believe the massacre happened prior to that with Dolores possibly having a previous assignment.

[Destor]

I think we are being led to believe the massacre happened prior to that with Dolores possibly having a previous assignment.

Follow me here though.

1. Man in black returns.
2. Rapes doloris.
3. Doloris turns out to be Wyatt

That doesnt track at all. If she was wyatt then jist days prior teddy was smooching up to her when the man in black killed him. Doesnt make sense.

[Triple A]

That was before Ford started his "new narrative" I think. Wyatt thing is part of the new narrative, which he said was based on something that happened before. (I think)

[Triple A]

I think Dolores went on a killing rampage 30 years ago and killed a bunch of the staff and Arnold and now, 30 years later, Ford is trying to recreate that. They had the church and stuff rebuilt, and Dolores is returning to it, etc. Maybe Ford is getting her to go on a killing rampage again and kill the Delos board members and stuff.

[Destor]

Im ok with the story being told out of order but i really hope that if thats the narritive that there is some compelling pay off to doloris being wyatt. Im open to it though.

[Destor]

(NOT CONVINCED MIND YOU)

[RP]

WHAT is Going on!

[RP]

I have no clue what happened in this show

[Triple A]

From what I understand (but not 100% confirmed yet):

- The William storyline is happening 30 years "ago" (prob related to them saying the last time they had an "incident" in the park was 30 years ago)

- The Man in Black storyline and Maeve storyline is happening 30 years after that

- A lot of the flashbacks the characters have are to previous "memories" of things that happened to them

I guess I could keep typing stuff but feels like there is a lot to type. Also a lot of stuff is still ambiguous I think. They will prob reveal a lot of "what's going on" in the last episode. Someone on the show mentioned that there won't be a cliffhanger, so seems like they are going to wrap most things up and everything will "come together."

Are there any specific things u r def confused about?

[Frank Drebin]

Where did all the tits go?

[Lock Jaw]

Will bet all of Frank Drebin's street cred that the William story is not taking place 30 years ago.......

[Triple A]

smh

We'll see won't we!!!

That is part of the fun, there is always a lil doubt no matter how many lil hints they give U and how many theories I read... still is "sweet" when it happens and "comes to fruition"

[Triple A]

How come you are so sure it's def not the case though when there is lots of evidence?!

- The old logo being used during the William storyline is a big giveaway imo

- Dolores being very mechanical inside during that is also a giveaway

- There was an "incident 30 years ago"

- Man in Black says he got married 30 years ago. William storyline is talking about how he is about to be married.

- Both William and MIB have pale blue eyes.

- Why would MIB say "I thought they would have retired you by now?" to the host that introduced William? Obv was re-assigned.

[Innovator]

What if Logan is the MiB instead of William? William dies next episode, Logan thinks he's crazy until he kills Maeve and her daughter and sees the emotion out of her and realizes William was right.

[Triple A]

idk, feels like that wouldn't be as good or wouldn't make as much sense. Logan is not really a major character, so feels like having that be a huge reveal wouldn't be as "big." Also Logan has dark brown eyes, while William and MIB both have the same blue eyes.

[Lock Jaw]

Delores was already revealed to be one of the oldest models.... makes sense that she is robotic inside.....

[Triple A]

They said that she has been rebuilt so many times that she is practically brand new. And I think I remember them also saying at some point that there are no more of the old style models anymore in the park.

[Frank Drebin]

What if Logan is the MiB instead of William? William dies next episode, Logan thinks he's crazy until he kills Maeve and her daughter and sees the emotion out of her and realizes William was right.

I thought that too, but for all the reasons Trip said, I don't think so anymore. Too many clues to suggest MIB is William at this point. If it wasn't, lots and lots of red herrings.

[Lock Jaw]

Really rooting for it to not be true...... to me the clues are mostly just "grasping at straws", so I don't think it will come true....

If it does I guess I will "like it less", but still watch......

[Triple A]

@ Lock Jaw

https://i.redd.it/4351nf18tpzx.png

[Lock Jaw]

oh no

[Cuzziebro]

How come you are so sure it's def not the case though when there is lots of evidence?!

- The old logo being used during the William storyline is a big giveaway imo

- Dolores being very mechanical inside during that is also a giveaway

- There was an "incident 30 years ago"

- Man in Black says he got married 30 years ago. William storyline is talking about how he is about to be married.

- Both William and MIB have pale blue eyes.

- Why would MIB say "I thought they would have retired you by now?" to the host that introduced William? Obv was re-assigned.

And the picture of Williams' wife (Logan's sister) is the same picture that Abernathy found in the dirt that made him go all Shakespeare.

[RP]

I watched all the episodes and have no idea whats going on

[Fignuts]

And the picture of Williams' wife (Logan's sister) is the same picture that Abernathy found in the dirt that made him go all Shakespeare.

This is what clinched it for me. That same picture coming up twice makes no sense otherwise.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, thought I noticed that picture looking the same, but I wasn't sure.....

Still think a non-linear sequence of events would be "meh" idea......

[Fignuts]

No, shut up. You love it.

[Destor]

I love nonlinear story telling (and I can conceed that this is most likely the case here.) Doloris being Wyatt I would need to be sold on.

[Frank Drebin]

I watched all the episodes and have no idea whats going on
This might help (http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/westworld-timeline-guide.html)

[Lock Jaw]

I guess maybe my problem with the non-linear timelines is maybe "more personal"........

I like "good guys"/"role models"/"white hats"...... I want to root for William..... sure, he snapped and hacked a bunch of bots into pieces, but he can still come back and be the moral center/compass of the show........

Will have no one to root for/get behind if he goes full heel.......

Much more "emotionally invested" in a character who "keeps to his moral principles" in an "indecent world" than in a character who is driven to the dark side by the darkness around him.......

[Destor]

I guess maybe my problem with the non-linear timelines is maybe "more personal"........

I like "good guys"/"role models"/"white hats"...... I want to root for William..... sure, he snapped and hacked a bunch of bots into pieces, but he can still come back and be the moral center/compass of the show........

Will have no one to root for/get behind if he goes full heel.......

Much more "emotionally invested" in a character who "keeps to his moral principles" in an "indecent world" than in a character who is driven to the dark side by the darkness around him.......
I touched on that issue a few pages ago. William is the only character on the show thats "good" and human. I.E. the only person who's death could have any drama whatsoever.

[Triple A]

This might help (http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/westworld-timeline-guide.html)

Seems good

Also links to another article where someone points out that William and MiB have the same knife (and are wearing the same shirt).

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/11/westworld-man-in-black-william-same-person-shirt-knife-multiple-timelines

So, really, William and the Man in Black are wearing the same shirt and carry the same knife? One Ford looks at with consideration in Episode 5 like he’s seen it’s dirty work before? And you still don’t think they’re the same person?

http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/58199778784cf8ac089e68fb/master/w_690,c_limit/ww-knife.gif

[RP]

I dont get it.

[Triple A]

I dont get it.

This is a VERY good crystal clear explanation... check it out... (http://penis.com)

[RP]

What the fuck. Thats Penis.com

[RP]

Why you do that bro?

[Fignuts]

lol

He got you

[RP]

Not cool man. Not even a penis. Just a bunch of words that say penis.

[Outsider]

Actually this multiple timelines idea clears up one of the things which had been bugging me about the show.

For such a theme park to work, the storylines would have to be reset at some point and begin again. This obviously wouldn't be a daily event or guests would live the same day each time. So lets say it is weekly.

Maeve has been through the same story cycle (her brothel being robbed) multiple times, so this would indicate her story takes place over a long time period, a few weeks at least possibly more.

Meanwhile Delores seems to be in one story cycle for most of the show. A shorter time scale.

So either the storylines reset daily, and Maeve has been killed, repaired and put back within 24 hours (which would seem dumb) or one storyline has been going at a much quicker pace relative to the other. Which fits in with the fan theory.

[Frank Drebin]

damn!

[Lock Jaw]

Okie dokey then.

Good episode, but I don't really think I am interested in a second season. Feels like the story is "complete".

[Lock Jaw]

Also

:lol: at superfluous after credits scene of tattoo chick cutting her arm off

[Triple A]

Really great ep.

Entire episode felt really tense, like a bunch of "crazy" stuff was about to happen.

"Samurai World" thing is interesting... Opens possibilities for other genres in later seasons maybe (hopefully not samurais).

[Cuzziebro]

LJ stop being so negative.

[Fignuts]

I fucking love this show.

[Lock Jaw]

LJ stop being so negative.

I said it was good.........

[Heisenberg]

We're just getting started, it's our World now

[Destor]

#tokentripswasrightpost

[Triple A]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">what if seinfeld was westworld<br><br>&quot;..mulva?&quot; <a href="https://t.co/4sYUf4wNSa">pic.twitter.com/4sYUf4wNSa</a></p>&mdash; Seinfeld Current Day (@Seinfeld2000) <a href="https://twitter.com/Seinfeld2000/status/806054751645274112">December 6, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Lock Jaw]

Talked to HR Braud at work today about Westworld..... she agreed with me about it being "good", but having the feeling that she would be "fine with it" if it didn't have a second season..... Good to know someone shares my opinions.....

[Cuzziebro]

My wife said the same thing, however she is also very excited for the next season and where they will head with the various story lines. I love everything about it!

[Triple A]

Read something (from someone involved with the show, don't remember whom/where) saying that the first season is almost like a "prequel" to what the "actual show" will be going forward... interesting

They apparently have like at least 5 seasons already planned out, which seems good, so it won't be like written "on the fly" like a lot of people say seemed to be happening with Lost (idk never seen Lost)

[Triple A]

"Samurai World" thing is interesting... Opens possibilities for other genres in later seasons maybe (hopefully not samurais).

Also the paper that Maeve gets with the location of her daughter says "Park 1" on it. "Park 1" is not necessarily the "Westworld" park, so Maeve could end up in a different park next season.

[Triple A]

Also Ed Harris (Man in Black) has signed up for next season already.

Anthony Hopkins has not (yet at least). The show creator said in some interview that he "actually died" so I guess it wasn't a host version of himself or w/e (sry for no links, read a bunch of stuff yesterday and finally felt like posting). But that doesn't rule out the possibility obv that he could come back in some other way.

Jimmi Simpson (William) will not be in season 2 (obviously I guess since his part is p much wrapped up)

[Emperor Smeat]

Read something (from someone involved with the show, don't remember whom/where) saying that the first season is almost like a "prequel" to what the "actual show" will be going forward... interesting

They apparently have like at least 5 seasons already planned out, which seems good, so it won't be like written "on the fly" like a lot of people say seemed to be happening with Lost (idk never seen Lost)

Yeah the writers said Season 1 was planned to be a prequel or setup to the real stuff they have planned for the series. Sort of like how recent comic films have the first film for a character or group be the origin story and then go with bigger stuff for later films.

They wrote Season 1 in a way so it could stand alone as a story had HBO not picked up more seasons while leaving a little on the table in order to go into future seasons.

[Lock Jaw]

Hope it is good..... I will still tune in....

[Triple A]

Westworld actors in commercials

very good

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[Frank Drebin]

In the movies, other world's are a medieval world, future world and I believe a Samurai world but I'm not positive about the last one.

[Heisenberg]

Also Ed Harris (Man in Black) has signed up for next season already.

Anthony Hopkins has not (yet at least). The show creator said in some interview that he "actually died" so I guess it wasn't a host version of himself or w/e (sry for no links, read a bunch of stuff yesterday and finally felt like posting). But that doesn't rule out the possibility obv that he could come back in some other way.

Jimmi Simpson (William) will not be in season 2 (obviously I guess since his part is p much wrapped up)



Hopkins made me believe his character knew that he couldn't escape the Board so he wanted to go out on his terms. Didn't really think he'd host himself, but we'll see,,,

[Innovator]

In the movies, other world's are a medieval world, future world and I believe a Samurai world but I'm not positive about the last one.

Wasn't it RomanWorld?

[Lock Jaw]

According to Wiki it was Medieval World and Roman World. Future World and "Spa World" added in the sequel.....

[Frank Drebin]

Wasn't it RomanWorld?

Oh yah, now I memba

[Frank Drebin]

Lol @ spa world. Just go to a massage parlor you idiots.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These violent delights have violent ends <a href="https://t.co/C9yDEZfd1Q">pic.twitter.com/C9yDEZfd1Q</a></p>&mdash; Arby's (@Arbys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/805581363411877888">December 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Frank Drebin]

Imagine if a used ketchup packet was at the center of the Maze. I would have known slik had designed it. Who else would do such a thing?

[Frank Drebin]

Can't wait for 18 months of speculatory articles, fake script leaks, random still shots from the set of Rachel Evan Woods eating a bagel during a break, and over analyzed quotes from cast and crew during comic con panels.

[Lock Jaw]

Arby's does have violent ends (explosive diarrhea)

[Frank Drebin]

There's no Arby's in your providence. How would you know? Get off my land!

[Lock Jaw]

There's an Arby's here.... you are right though.... think I have eaten at Arby's once when I was a kid..... I should not be slandering them. I offer them a full apology.

[RP]

The thing about Arby's is they never put enough roast beef on there sandwiches. I swear its like 25% bread and that shit aint cheap either. There salads dont even fill the salad bowl. They are the real Jew's of the industry.

[Destor]

Those chicken bacon n swisses tho :heart:

[Fignuts]

The thing about Arby's is they never put enough roast beef on there sandwiches. I swear its like 25% bread and that shit aint cheap either. There salads dont even fill the salad bowl. They are the real Jew's of the industry.

Same with Subway. Meanwhile Quiznos gives you a cow with two slices of bread. So good.

[drave]

Hopkins made me believe his character knew that he couldn't escape the Board so he wanted to go out on his terms. Didn't really think he'd host himself, but we'll see,,,


This.

Also, this is the best new show in quite a long while. Love the piss outta this show.

[Seanny One Ball]

I just watched the entire thing across two nights.

Westworld is the best first season of a sci fi show since Rod Serling brought out The Twilight Zone in 1959.
It may be the best introduction to a series I've seen this millennium. I mean I'd have to say the writing, acting and production in Westworld are more immediately attractive to me than the opening seasons of Breaking Bad, Narcos, True Detective, Walking Dead, Game Of Thrones, The Wire, The Sopranos, Banshee and Sons Of Anarchy.

I think only Justified, Deadwood and Vikings gave me anywhere near as much instant gratification.

This is pretty much a perfect season for a person like me. It's also one of the most sensibly feminist shows I have ever seen. Virtually every human male is in some way obviously pathetic, lacking or just plain detestable. I think a place like that would be filled with the worst kind of dirty bastard. Alongside that they have done a fantastic job writing the dialogue for Thandie Newton's Maeve and Evan Rachel Wood's Dolores, even the human character Theresa was written so that you could enjoy the dramatic u-turn her situation takes and suddenly sympathise in horror as the realisation dawns on you.

I loved this show.

[Heisenberg]

Yo, SyFy had a 48 hour marathon of Twilight Zone, the improved picture quality makes them even more revisitable

[Frank Drebin]

RIP Crazy Edgar. Your Rod Serling Avatar will be raised to the rafters of the TPWW HOF.

[XL]

Picked up the Season 1 Blu Ray the other day, want to see if I can get the wife to watch with me (1st time for her, 3rd for me)

[Frank Drebin]

Word, XL. Trying to do the same. Maybe I'll get extra hyped for it and be able to convince my wife when some season 2 trailers drop.

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't a season 2 trailer drop awhile back?

[Frank Drebin]

I thought maybe a teaser. Remember it just being shots of main characters but nothing that gave anything away plot wise. Maybe that counts, but they haven't even set a premier date I don't think. Would like to re watch right before the new season starts to have a seamless transition into 2 with everything fresh in mind. Really want that for this show. Lots of things to forget about.

[Seanny One Ball]

Season 2 Cast info William is confirmed as back for season 2.
I suppose we'll get flashbacks to his growth into The Man In Black.

I hope season 2 has as many great surprises.

[XL]

Last I heard we wouldn’t see Season 2 until 2019.

[Destor]

Nah, spring 2018

[Blue Demon]

Super excited for Season 2...really liked this interpretation of the show.

[Ruien]

I tried to watch this but couldn't get into it. Maybe I will give it another go.

[Triple A]

Season 2 tomorrow... cool

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[Lock Jaw]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zwqfoTOdXL4" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Triple A]

the 50th time he said "spoiler alert" became unbearable and ruined the video imo

[RP]

I'm still not sure what happened in the first season.

[Danny Electric]

So what did people think of season 2 episode 1 , sets up the season perfectly for me and makes sense of season 1 was just a prequel for what will be coming.

[Lock Jaw]

Just finished watching. Was ok. Bunch of storylines happening, and it looks like Bernard has at least two different timelines going on. Will continue to watch and see what happens.

I miss Young William.

[Frank Drebin]

It was fine. Seems like it'll go interesting places. Just hope it doesn't dwell on the mysteries too much like whatever is going on with the Man in Black. Ok, so he's going to follow another one of Ford's games. Where did that lead him least season?

[Triple A]

Don't like how they keep crowbarring in the catch phrase "it doesn't look like anything to me" to get a "cheap pop" from people

[Blue Demon]

Just watched the first ep, and thought it was pretty interesting. Bernard kinda bothered me the whole episode for some reason.


Don't like how they keep crowbarring in the catch phrase "it doesn't look like anything to me" to get a "cheap pop" from people

Yeah, this was kindof annoying.

[RP]

" This game will find me "

[RP]

I cant believe Elsie is legit

[RP]

Elsie is not real tonight.

[RP]

Every moment I watch, Elsie seems not real.

[RP]

Benard is being lead and haunted by the woman he killed... Elsie

[RP]

Elsie so dumb

[RP]

Elsie is abiout to be boom.

[Seanny One Ball]

Sort yourself out

[XL]

Anyone still watching/hyped for the finale?

[Destor]

I started this week. On ep 2. I knew the show would have to become a new show altogether after the finale in the same was tge 2nd film did. Like the 2nd film it has become something with no depth.

[Destor]

Fun on a mindless less level but not must see tv

[Lock Jaw]

Only watched the first episode of the new season still...... haven't heard any hype really for this season.... no one talking about it or so it seems.... not even in real life......

[Emperor Smeat]

Its been good but nowhere as great as Season 1 was.

Feels like having like 3-4 main stories running at the same time was a mistake and after being teased it, was really looking forward to a lot of samurai related stuff which didn't really happen.

[Frank Drebin]

Going to watch the finale. I'll echo the sentiments about season 2. It's been "fine". Def a step back from season 1. Kind of a big one too.

Seems like it'll go interesting places. Just hope it doesn't dwell on the mysteries too much like whatever is going on with the Man in Black. Ok, so he's going to follow another one of Ford's games. Where did that lead him least season?

This exact thing has happened.

Maybe the finale will do something cool, but they've screwed the pooch this season, imo, which is why you haven't heard people talking about it like thy were during season 1.

[XL]

Yeah ratings haven’t been going in the right direction. I can see it being perceived as being “too dense”. I know I need to watch a couple of YouTube videos to make full sense of most of it and I’m a “seasoned TV viewer”.

[Frank Drebin]

I have no idea what I just watched. I think I understood half of it. Not sure if I'd say it "wasn't very good" or "pretty bad".

Really disappointed in this. Not quite "Dexter" level of disappointment but it's on the board.

[Frank Drebin]

I keep waiting for someone else to chime in, but it was so poor no one even cares to do so it seems.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm just going to pretend Season 1 was a stand alone one off work of unparalleled genius.

[Destor]

Thought the show really got its shit together on the go home stretch. Last 3 or 4 were quality

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm just going to pretend Season 1 was a stand alone one off work of unparalleled genius.

That's probably the main reason why Season 2 felt poor by comparison.

They wrote the series first as a standalone in case HBO didn't renew due to high costs and then as a "10 seasons" series in case HBO did.

End result was Season 1 got almost the entire main narrative, world building, and robot rebellion while Season 2 had to split the focus between the fallout and building for future seasons. Even the hyped up Samurai World felt a bit flat because Season 2 was doing way too many things at once but not as cohesive as Season 1 was.

[Seanny One Ball]

I haven't even seen any of the second season yet. Waiting for the box set.

[Frank Drebin]

Best episode this season wasn't even about the main story. The Lakota Indian story was pretty fn good. The rest of this season can go kick rocks. At least they didn't kill Doaks.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's one thing I now know.

[Triple A]

Just finally finished watching season 2... There was a lot of good stuff but a lot of it was also pretty bad.

A lot of the dialog felt incredibly shitty to me, like a straight to DVD action movie or something. So many "witty one liners" that were just like "Christ..."

"Elsie" the most annoying character... Or maybe just don't like the actress, or both

Ed Harris was incredible as always though

[WinterDecay]

I am never a fan of having characters that add nothing to the story - WestWorld season 2 had a number of characters that did nothing to advance the main story - Ashley, Elsie, Sylvester and Felix could have all been removed and nothing would have been missed.

I do wish they developed the character of Coughlin more instead of devoting so much time to Samurai-World

[Seanny One Ball]

On season 2 episode 4. I'm enjoying it. There was no chance they could maintain the tempo of twists that the first season had but they have done very well so far with pushing numerous storyline threads at once. Thandie and Evan are still great and the William storyline now has Peter Mullan - for my money Scotland's best film maker and one of our finest actors.

So far it had been lacking in Ed Harris and James Marsden has been cut down to a sidekick role which is frustrating but hopefully he gets more to do soon.

[Seanny One Ball]

Jeffrey Wright just keeps getting better as an actor. He has a tangible quality of emotional fragility that must be draining to perform.

[Seanny One Ball]

Jesus. Peter Mullan got given a phenomenal part in this. Heartbreaking.

[Seanny One Ball]

Episode four was a real highlight. Episode five is easily the least interesting episode in the whole show.
Turning Japanese wasn't a good idea. Thandie Newton speaking Japanese while dressed in period costume is hard going.

They're asking too much of me after such a great fourth episode.

[Seanny One Ball]

Just finally finished watching season 2... There was a lot of good stuff but a lot of it was also pretty bad.

A lot of the dialog felt incredibly shitty to me, like a straight to DVD action movie or something. So many "witty one liners" that were just like "Christ..."



William's daughter was given some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard.

You can't sympathise with that. Even if they had gotten a great actress in you'd never buy it.

Most of that "Elsie" character's dialogue was shit too.

[Seanny One Ball]

Good season. It suffered from two boring, incongruous episodes but the other eight were either good or great. Episode four and eight were very, very cool and easily up to the standards of season one but they added far too many unnecessary storylines into it at the expense of characters like Teddy who gets very little to do besides tag along. I also did not like Emily. Elsie at least served a purpose, Emily was just wasted screen time. That whole angle was. It adds nothing to the character of William and actually creates a sympathy out of nowhere. Had they left the wife thing vague then we would assume William was to blame whereas what we saw just shows serious signs of mental instability and substance abuse on his wife's part. They outright say he's a decent man in the real world. I suppose it's back to this season's emphasis on reality and free will.

Oh and I thought the time-shift gimmick was confusing as hell at first but I really enjoyed how much Bernard we were given. Glad to see lots of familiar faces back, more than I assumed.

[Destor]

Watching the s3 finale. I truly hope there isnt a s4. I dont think I'll watch if there is.

[Triple A]

Season felt brutal to get through... Felt like giving up after almost every episode but eventually felt a compulsion to finish it... So hard to watch though... Didn't care at all about anyone or anything that was happening

[Destor]

My fear is that the compulsion to finish it will make me watch a 4th season

[slik]

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[Destor]

My fear is that the compulsion to finish it will make me watch a 4th season
totally unfounded. im compulsion free

[Triple A]

Prob will try to at least watch 1 episode of this bullshit.......

[Destor]

if AAA says its good i will watch it. i will only accept affirmation from Afif

[XL]

Afifmation, if you will.

[Frank Drebin]

Afifmative Action

[slik]

I thought the first ep of the new season was good




There is no way that is not Dolores

[Destor]

i await the chosen one

[Triple A]

Watched the first ep... it was fine I guess... Some good parts but didn't necessarily "like" it that much really... but will watch the next episode. Have a feeling I am not gonna like this season again but we'll see!!!